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Hello, I am a complete newbie. I have only had my phone for about a week and a half, almost 2 weeks. Once the unrevoked team released the new fix to root my phone I wanted to check out a few things first.
I wanted to check out the ROMs that are available, maybe get some suggestions and etc. I guess my thing is, I like the way the normal stock is however I want to get rid of some bloatware apps that I have no use for at all. Here are some questions that I am running through:
What ROM is the closest to the stock version 2.2 but allows more customizations and is free of any bugs?
What are your recommendations to ROMs for a noobie?
Would I be able to design my own themes when using a ROM?
I think that is all I can think of for right now. But if you have some insight on something I should know, please let me know I would highly appreciate it.

I answer these with
1. Virtuous
2. Virtuous
3. You can but its not overly simple.
Virtuous is the stock rom but with fixes to give better life and it has the never needed stock apps removed with options to delete more preinstalled apps easily through virtuous buddy which is an app it comes with for easy customization of some things.
Shorte85 said:
Hello, I am a complete newbie. I have only had my phone for about a week and a half, almost 2 weeks. Once the unrevoked team released the new fix to root my phone I wanted to check out a few things first.
I wanted to check out the ROMs that are available, maybe get some suggestions and etc. I guess my thing is, I like the way the normal stock is however I want to get rid of some bloatware apps that I have no use for at all. Here are some questions that I am running through:
What ROM is the closest to the stock version 2.2 but allows more customizations and is free of any bugs?
What are your recommendations to ROMs for a noobie?
Would I be able to design my own themes when using a ROM?
I think that is all I can think of for right now. But if you have some insight on something I should know, please let me know I would highly appreciate it.
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Shorte85 said:
Hello, I am a complete newbie. I have only had my phone for about a week and a half, almost 2 weeks. Once the unrevoked team released the new fix to root my phone I wanted to check out a few things first.
I wanted to check out the ROMs that are available, maybe get some suggestions and etc. I guess my thing is, I like the way the normal stock is however I want to get rid of some bloatware apps that I have no use for at all. Here are some questions that I am running through:
What ROM is the closest to the stock version 2.2 but allows more customizations and is free of any bugs?
What are your recommendations to ROMs for a noobie?
Would I be able to design my own themes when using a ROM?
I think that is all I can think of for right now. But if you have some insight on something I should know, please let me know I would highly appreciate it.
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Virtuous is very good, and very close to stock (maybe a little too close). This is all opinion of course, the best thing you can do is try them for yourself. I recommend Skyraider Sense, it has a few added features and is super stable. I was one of the beta testers on this ROM and even in the pre-release stages it was very stable. It's fast, smooth and can be customized quite a bit. Also check out Chad's kernels, I have links for my setup in my signature if you want to check them out. The most important thing is to have fun and find something you enjoy. Happy tweaking

Everything come down to personal taste. Uncommon Sense has been bug free, I second Virtuous and would add Redemption to your list.
You should read each ROM's thread to see what people are saying about it. I realize that some of the Threads may have a few hundred pages of posts to read through, but it is well worth the time.
As you read through the threads, you will get a feeling for the developer, how they respond to queries as well as the members that are using the ROM.
I have been using ROMS created by Hey Its Lou (Redemption and Redemptive) exclusively now for about 6 weeks. He alsways seems to be releasing revisions as soon as he gets his hands on newly leaked code (as do some others).
As far as theming goes... It really depends on your ability to find the right tools and programs.

[Q] Noob needs some help!

Whats up guys? been following this site for a while.. but never joined lol because i didnt have a decent phone.. Well now i have a evo that i just rooted with unrevoked, as well as i have flashed over to Amon_ra. Now my question is (besides i will do a lot more reading but..) What do i do next? i am wanting my phone to run as it did stock (no glitching or crash's) I want to overclock the evo for more speed, I heard of cm6 & turbo ... (not sure of the full name) is pretty insane fps wise and the quickness it allows. If i could have figured this out by searching, i am sorry i am just very persistant lol.
Thanks again,
you guys are AWESOME!

Evilev0 said:
Whats up guys? been following this site for a while.. but never joined lol because i didnt have a decent phone.. Well now i have a evo that i just rooted with unrevoked, as well as i have flashed over to Amon_ra. Now my question is (besides i will do a lot more reading but..) What do i do next? i am wanting my phone to run as it did stock (no glitching or crash's) I want to overclock the evo for more speed, I heard of cm6 & turbo ... (not sure of the full name) is pretty insane fps wise and the quickness it allows. If i could have figured this out by searching, i am sorry i am just very persistant lol.
Thanks again,
you guys are AWESOME!
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Well you can always just run the Stock rooted ROM and find a good kernel compatible with it.

try myns warm twopointtwo. wait for rls5 to come out or it will be glitchy with your hardware.
welcome to the root crew.

Welcome
If you are looking for something similar to stock I would personally try "Sprint Lovers Rom". You can install any kernel you want and download "Setcpu" to overclock your phone. My favorite rom is Myns Warm two point two, but I am waiting until he releases his next version which should be compatible with the new Radios, PRI, PRLS etc. You might also want to stay away from any of the Gingerbread based roms until they are fully ported over and bug free.
The rom you mentioned in your post is Cyanogen Mod. Although this is a good rom, it is also an AOSP rom which doesn't have HTC Sense. Therefore if your looking for something similar to stock but with all the tweaks and goodies you should choose a Sense Based Rom.
Best advise is to just keep flashing & flashing until you find the Rom that you like best. Everyone's tastes are different and there is no "Best Rom" out there, it just personal preference.
Hope this helps

Thank you all, who responded I am gonna try out the "Sprint lovers"
"Myna" roms far as the kernel I am not to sure about those just yet. Need to read up still.. lol So for now I am very open to suggestions . I look forward to expanding my knowledge on here with ya'll. I just don't want to brick my phone, I will die! Lol I love my evo!
P.s do I do the "Back up's" and "Nandroid" back up's, when changing roms and kernels?
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first, DEFINETALLY DO A NANDROID BACKUP. as a general rule, backup whenever you like the state your phone is in (before you make a mod) and always have at least one backup handy always. titanium backups are helpful for changing roms because you can get all your app's data back. helpful on games and the like.
for kernels, i would suggest netarchy's 4.3. he says its is beta, but thats just because net likes his work to be perfect. it is as stable as anythign else. it has a nice sbc tweak as well. test many kernels. those are particular by phone. that is why people with the same phone get different battery life. what works well on one phone is terrible on another. so try netarchy's, maybe kingx's (off forum), and some others. i cant think of any more. i personally use netarchys though.

Is there a comprehensive guide to Roms?

Noob evo rooter I installed Fresh since I was told it's a solid rom with lots of bloatware gone.So now i just wanted to see what the differences between diff roms are & figure out which one is right for me but, each rom has thousands of posts & that would be impossible.
Is there somekind of a summary?
thanks in advance!

There is a stickied thread right in the subforum you (wrongly) posted this in.
Not to jump on a "noob" but this shouldn't have been posted and this should've been in Q&A anyways.

At this point, I would recommend MikFroyo v4.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
if you are looking for super-fast Sense w/ full functionality. The GB roms are going to be too developmental and buggy for you.

rstuckmaier said:
There is a stickied thread right in the subforum you (wrongly) posted this in.
Not to jump on a "noob" but this shouldn't have been posted and this should've been in Q&A anyways.
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thanks I just looked & maybe i'm not seeing it but it just lists the roms not what's special/different about them???
help a girl out
mitchellvii said:
At this point, I would recommend MikFroyo v4.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
if you are looking for super-fast Sense w/ full functionality. The GB roms are going to be too developmental and buggy for you.
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so it's just faster than fresh?
I dont know what I am looking for thats why i wanted to see what exactly each one offers?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
It is the FIRST thread.
"Detailed ROM Wiki (developers please update)"

rstuckmaier said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
It is the FIRST thread.
"Detailed ROM Wiki (developers please update)"
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I saw it, saw the rom names, versions, release dates, root methods
that isnt my question though, what is the difference between them? advantage of one over the other?

The difference would be how they look. The kernels would be for how they perform.
from my EVO using XDA app.

I seriously doubt someone is going to post all the differences of all the Rom's on here and tell you what each one does best. Every Rom is different on every phone. Sense based Rom offer all options like 4G and HDMI. AOSP Rom's are based on Open Source Android and are not build on HTC Sense and some things don't work in them like 4G, HDMI, video recording, etc...I have flashed many, many Rom's and have read many many threads. The way I learned about them is by reading the OP of the Rom thread to see what all the dev says about the Rom and what's included and what isn't. Then I will go through and read like the last 5-10 pages of the thread to see what kind of problems and/or what people are saying about the Rom. I will also read other pages of the thread if I am interested. I then flash the Rom I am interested in, play with it for a few days and if I don't like it I try something else. For some reason I always come back to CyanogenMod even though HDMI and 4G(stable) are not working yet.
No one can tell you which rom is best for you or your phone. Every person has a different personality and even every EVO is a little bit different about how it reacts to certain kernels and Rom's. Maybe if you tell us what you are looking for in a Rom we could point you in the right direction to certain Rom's that offer what it is you want.

Hey all I'm an epic user who is getting an evo next week and I have a more specific rom choice quetion. Having never owned a sense device but always sort liking the sense clock and lockscreen I was thinking of trying myns rom (don't remember if that is the dev or the rom). However, with not having wimax in my area or the desire to output video through my phone the progress of cm7 seems very tempting.
I suppose what I'm asking is whether or not cm7 is really at the point where it could be a daily driver (and which one to use) and whether or not you can get the real sense clock/lockscreen on it and if not how good performance/battery wise is myns? Thanks in advance!
Sent from my ext4 Epic 4G running Bonsai4all 1.1.3!

kenvan19 said:
Hey all I'm an epic user who is getting an evo next week and I have a more specific rom choice quetion. Having never owned a sense device but always sort liking the sense clock and lockscreen I was thinking of trying myns rom (don't remember if that is the dev or the rom). However, with not having wimax in my area or the desire to output video through my phone the progress of cm7 seems very tempting.
I suppose what I'm asking is whether or not cm7 is really at the point where it could be a daily driver (and which one to use) and whether or not you can get the real sense clock/lockscreen on it and if not how good performance/battery wise is myns? Thanks in advance!
Sent from my ext4 Epic 4G running Bonsai4all 1.1.3!
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Don't think you can get the Actual sense clock for CM7, but I use a free widget from the market called Sense Analog Clock which is a skinnable clock that looks a lot like the HTC clock, but not only shows the weather, but can show system info as well like battery %, free sdcard available, free ram, free Rom and Battery Temp. Very nice. As for CM7 being a daily driver, I have been using Lithid's daily compile's of CM7 for a couple weeks now and never had a problem. There are a few quirks and bugs here and there, but for the most part it does what it should and is very fast. Give it a try and if you don't like it flash a Sense Rom. That's the best part of being rooted. You are not stuck with one choice on your phone's OS.

housry23 said:
Don't think you can get the Actual sense clock for CM7, but I use a free widget from the market called Sense Analog Clock which is a skinnable clock that looks a lot like the HTC clock, but not only shows the weather, but can show system info as well like battery %, free sdcard available, free ram, free Rom and Battery Temp. Very nice. As for CM7 being a daily driver, I have been using Lithid's daily compile's of CM7 for a couple weeks now and never had a problem. There are a few quirks and bugs here and there, but for the most part it does what it should and is very fast. Give it a try and if you don't like it flash a Sense Rom. That's the best part of being rooted. You are not stuck with one choice on your phone's OS.
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Oh ya I love flashing. However its a lot easier to try them all when there are just 9ish good ones like on the epic. The evo has just hundreds (or at least it seems so). I suppose that is the benefit to having froyo source. I've used the sense clock from the market as well as beautiful widgets. Thank you so much for your input! I was definitely leaning towards cm7 but
I hadn't found that release. Ill take a gander at it now.
Sent from my ext4 Epic 4G running Bonsai4all 1.1.3!

psixichka said:
Noob evo rooter I installed Fresh since I was told it's a solid rom with lots of bloatware gone.So now i just wanted to see what the differences between diff roms are & figure out which one is right for me but, each rom has thousands of posts & that would be impossible.
Is there somekind of a summary?
thanks in advance!
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You don't need to read all the thousands of posts. Just usually the first two or three where the dev describes the rom and the changelog and how to flash.
It's hard to keep a summary up to date. There has been attempts to summarize roms and/or kernels and they all just change too often.
For now, the roms seem to fall into four groups:
SENSE based with full Sense: Myn, Fresh, MikFroyo, Sprint Lovers, Calkulin's Evio
SENSE based but little or no Sense: EvoNonSense, Valpaek, EvoNeo, Burnt Droid
AOSP - 2.2 Android: CM 6.1.2, MIUI
AOSP - 2.3 Android: Gingerbread
It's easier to just browse the development section because there are a lot of ROMs. I just listed the ones I've tried at one point and can remember.

[Q] n00b question

accidentally posted in general sorry!!
I have recently just started the rooting and flashing of new ROM's to my evo very very recently. "BTW this site is amazing, like you didn't already know." Anyway I was wondering if there were anyway to add on things a ROM didn't have. Like for my example-- i downloaded a King's ROM Ultra Blakk or something, anyway it doesn't have that turn off animation that is like the sense 3.0 animation(i think), from EVOlvedROMSHiFTed v2 has. Is there a way to do that? Sorry for the n00b-ness, i can take the laughter!! anyway you guys are amazing! Bunch of creative amazingness and i'm glad i'm on board!!

the best thing you can do is just read as much as you can about every ROM. For me, when I first started, I looked at the ROMs with the most replies, figuring it made sense, those were the most complete.
Then just playing with them, until I found the setups I liked the most.
Remember too, a lot of ROMS have addons and mods you can flash to give you different features.

Yeah that's pretty much what i do. My main point is/was this, i have the kings rom cause i like it. Just want to add the turn off animation from sense 3.0. I love the Kings ROM amazing....seriously... weiner hard when my phone turns on love it. Just want the animation. No way to do that?

Is it under display settings?

No I thought it might but I think it has to do with what the ROM is based on. Froyo, sense, MIUI. I assume anyway like I said still very new to all this. I checked the display settings. But no option to change animations. Not even sure if i'm asking the question right. Heh. Damn wish I could be as brilliant as some of these other peeps
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If I stand corrected, wasn't Ultra Blackk like R3 and that was 2.2 [Froyo]? if so, I don't think the screen on/off animation will work on that rom. [This question has been asked before, and not bashing, just informing] Though sorry.

yeah man i don't know. Like i said still very very very new to this. Just trying to figure the in's and out's to all of this. kinda makes me wish there were a dummies how to book for all of this

You can try an app called "screen off and lock" from the market, but I'm not sure if it will work with standard 2.2 (froyo) roms. I know it works on my 2.2 rom (SkyRaider), but the proper adjustments were baked into the framework for my rom.
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[Q] ROM questions

i know this will be something that you are probably already seek of reading but i really would like some answers.
I have a new desire z , i already did the tutorial to root and s-off the phone, now i would like to know what roms do you guys recommend me to install.
please give options for roms with and without sense.
thanks!

1) Whatever looks good to you
2) Whatever meets your performance/feature requirements.
Unless you specify what you are looking for in a ROM, its hard to narrow down. There are tons of these threads and the common answer is "try some".
Not trying to be a jerk, but it really comes down to what you want/like.

ok
is there any fully functional ics rom for the desire z?
and what is the best rom to use if i want a fast rom with htc sense?

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magno23 said:
ok
is there any fully functional ics rom for the desire z?
and what is the best rom to use if i want a fast rom with htc sense?
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Best ICS ROM i have used till now - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492461 . Though this is also not fully functional.
I don't feel sense ROMs are fast enough :-/ But as biohazard said, it all depends on individual.

I've tried the ICS roms and I'm just not satisfied with them as a dailey driver yet. They'll get there, my biggest thing is the glitchy cameras. I'm excited for the time when ICS roms are 100% working.
I've tried just about all the roms out there, except sense 4.0. I keep finding myself going between CM7 and Virtuous Glite. I like the performance and customization of ILWT and I like the long battery of Glite.
I like that ILWT seems to be the only CM based rom that has a GPS fix.
I really like sense, but they're too laggy for me so far. Maybe, I just haven't found the right one?

The question of "what is the best/favorite ROM" gets asked a couple times a week. Just browse through this forum and you will find plenty of threads with opinions on ROMs.
As already mentioned, everyone has different needs and tastes. What is one person likes, may not be the best for you. Just do some reading, and you will find the benefits and features of the various ROMs, then pick one from there.

Just flashed this mod : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495255
I love it, but having an issue with the wifi with 2.0.
Good luck!

magno23 said:
i know this will be something that you are probably already seek of reading but i really would like some answers.
I have a new desire z , i already did the tutorial to root and s-off the phone, now i would like to know what roms do you guys recommend me to install.
please give options for roms with and without sense.
thanks!
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Take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431 it has a list of very good ROMs.

i tried some roms with htc sense but they are a little slow for me.
what is the difference between CM7 and ILWT CM7?

magno23 said:
i tried some roms with htc sense but they are a little slow for me.
what is the difference between CM7 and ILWT CM7?
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Well, basically, ILWT is CM7 on steroids. Many optimizations for battery life/performance.