I've had my phone about a month now and it's going great. No complaints or issues (proximity sensor is behaving itself nicely). I'm now thinking of rooting it and getting CM7.
A few questions:
1) Does rooting void warranty?
2) Is it possible to 'unroot' and go back to the stock rom and have the phone exactly as it was out of the box?
3) I'm on software version 1.72.405.3. I'm guessing I'm going to have to downgrade to be able to root my phone?
4) What is the likelihood of bricking my phone and is there a way to unbrick it if such a thing happens?
1. Yes. Rooting does void warranty, as fas as i know.
2. I believe you can do so by flashing official RUU package.
3. Yes, you would have to downgrade first.
4. There is a possibility of bricking, but it should not happen if you follow all the steps needed.
If i am wrong on some points, someone more experienced should correct me.
The previous points were quite right. You shouldn't be scared of rooting, just read enough and follow the instructions very carefully and you should be just fine. People tend to speak about how someone has bricked their phone etc. but these guys with bricked phones never show up anywhere so there's a kind of a paradox I'm not saying that trying to root couldn't harm your device, I'm just saying that if you do everything very carefully and "by the book" the chances of bricking are very minimal if any.
Oh and if you haven't seen this, heres a good guide to get you through http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_HD:_Full_Root_Guide
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Hello everyone!
I ordered my TMOUS TP2 and am waiting for it to arrive...I am very interested in completely customizing my phone, however, I have never done these things before and have never worked with Windows Mobile. I am a decent computer user and have been trolling/reading on all of this for a while now. I am under the impression that as soon as I receive my phone, before doing anything to it, I should flash HardSPL? Can someone explain how HardSPL works and what the importance of flashing this is. I am not quite sure what an SPL is... After I flash HardSPL I will be able to flash any custom ROM/RUU (these are the same right?) on here, correct? Also, installing cab files is a lot easier to install/uninstall and do not void warranty?
Sorry for being such a noob with all these questions. If anyone would like to give me a list of steps on what I can do with my phone and in what order that would be great.
Also, what exactly would void my warranty if I wasn't planning on flashing any ROM/RUU? (Which I most likely would be, but just curious)
gotzta said:
Hello everyone!
I ordered my TMOUS TP2 and am waiting for it to arrive...I am very interested in completely customizing my phone, however, I have never done these things before and have never worked with Windows Mobile. I am a decent computer user and have been trolling/reading on all of this for a while now. I am under the impression that as soon as I receive my phone, before doing anything to it, I should flash HardSPL? Can someone explain how HardSPL works and what the importance of flashing this is. I am not quite sure what an SPL is... After I flash HardSPL I will be able to flash any custom ROM/RUU (these are the same right?) on here, correct? Also, installing cab files is a lot easier to install/uninstall and do not void warranty?
Sorry for being such a noob with all these questions. If anyone would like to give me a list of steps on what I can do with my phone and in what order that would be great.
Also, what exactly would void my warranty if I wasn't planning on flashing any ROM/RUU? (Which I most likely would be, but just curious)
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This should answer most of your questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
is it possible to ruin your phone even with HardSPL? or does HardSPL completely take away the chances of bricking it?
no matter what, i think there's always a risk of bricking your phone when flashing it. its the risk you take bro...
does HardSPL just minimize the chances of doing so?
In the N1 General forum there was a great post done - 100% Fool Proof Guide to rooting & ROMs, and I was hoping that we could start a similar thread here.
Please feel free to comment on this post - it is my hope that we can put together a great document for newbs like me in the future. THIS thread is for suggestions on what should be in the guide, not the guide itself. I will reserve the second post for compiling suggestions over the next couple of days.
I just ordered my Desire, and it should be with me in a week or two. I am disturbed by the USB/A2SD issues being encountered by some, and so when I root I want to get it right
imHo, the guide should include:
1) Definitions of Rooting, unlocking, goldcards, generic, kernel, radio and how these relate to future OTA updates. These are concepts which I am familiar with, but feel I know just enough to be dangerous to myself/my device
2) A ballpark comparison of the unique characteristics of ROMs available today (stock-like, minimalist, sense-free, tethering, etc)
3) A step-by-step guide to the most recommended flashing updates people are using today
4) Things to bear in mind if you are a win-x64 user (I understand this is a tripping point for some)
[Reserved for collating ideas]
1) Terminology:
Rooting
Unlocking
Goldcards
Generic
Kernel
Radio
OTA updates, and how they may be affected by flashing your Desire
2) Current ROMs available and their unique characteristics
3) Guide to flashing your desire
4) Win64 users - what to bear in mind
And a big warning that this rooting process can cause unexpected pain on your bank balance if you are unlucky at the minute
I'd say to use the TinyCore method as I had nothing but issues doing it using W7 x64 - there's a guide on MoDaCo that's simple as anything - only a fool would get it wrong!!!
Find it here:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...inux-download-and-guide-easiest-and-best-way/
And my USB still works fine, not had any issues since rooting and am now happily using an MCRr2 ROM cooked to my liking
I'd have to agree. Tiny Core Linux was so simple to use. I'd never used Linux before and even I could do it!
I did see paul's tweet saying a new safer more reliable method was coming this week hopefully. If that's the case I'll be rooting like mad again!
New, safer, more reliable root method for Legend and Desire coming up next week (all being well). #mcr 7:28 PM May 14th via Tweetie http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien
Only issues I've had was flashing the radio as part of a ROM - wouldn't have it so gonna try it on its own later this evening. Would be nice to get it all in one ROM but meh
EddyOS said:
I'd say to use the TinyCore method as I had nothing but issues doing it using W7 x64 - there's a guide on MoDaCo that's simple as anything - only a fool would get it wrong!!!
Find it here:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...inux-download-and-guide-easiest-and-best-way/
And my USB still works fine, not had any issues since rooting and am now happily using an MCRr2 ROM cooked to my liking
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u guys are getting it wrong!!!!!!
me too i was saying the same thing last week when i was reading about the bricks and stuff. i didnt have any problems till 2 days ago. well let me tell you that the unrooting process went out wonderful... nothing wrong. i even flashed all the roms possible and even started cooking and porting some roms for my own use too.
the problem is not whether the method is complex or not. the ''brick'' does not happen while you are rooting the phone. nobody actually knows what triggers the damage. some get it on 1st attempt, some after 5-6 flashes, and some like me after numerous ones.
so in my opinion, i dont think you can say this is a safe method bla bla bla and i try to discourage ppl wanting to root ''for the moment''.
deeren said:
u guys are getting it wrong!!!!!!
me too i was saying the same thing last week when i was reading about the bricks and stuff. i didnt have any problems till 2 days ago. well let me tell you that the unrooting process went out wonderful... nothing wrong. i even flashed all the roms possible and even started cooking and porting some roms for my own use too.
the problem is not whether the method is complex or not. the ''brick'' does not happen while you are rooting the phone. nobody actually knows what triggers the damage. some get it on 1st attempt, some after 5-6 flashes, and some like me after numerous ones.
so in my opinion, i dont think you can say this is a safe method bla bla bla and i try to discourage ppl wanting to root ''for the moment''.
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I totally agree, I try to at least warn people that there is a fair chance they will brick their device but this thread is about the best and easiest way to root.
At the end of the day if people know the risks and still want to go for it, then they may as well come here for the easiest method
just a quick question guys as im a total noob in android and rooting, does this method also works with the desire and does not require a goldcard?
cez10 said:
just a quick question guys as im a total noob in android and rooting, does this method also works with the desire and does not require a goldcard?
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This method is for the desire!
If you choose to root, then you will only need a goldcard if your handset was network supplied and branded. If for example you bought it and it came in a plain box, and had no network branding on the software then you can do it without the gold card. I got mine from the Carphone Warehouse so it was unlocked and unbranded. I just rooted with the standard SD card.
The software number on my unbranded device is 1.15.405.4. Hope this helps.
Refer to this
1) Nothing is foolproof. If you're a fool, don't root.
2) Foolproof implies pragmatic. The N1 is designed (basically) to be rooted so there's a universal method for all. The Desire wasn't, so things liks different bootloaders, branded phones and goldcards makes everyone just that little bit different. I mean, the HTC memory protection mean things like Adfree don't work out of the box (causes phone to reboot) - if you create a foolproof method we're just going to get threads about "zomg why wont dis app wrk on my fone" because they expect to be spoonfed everything.
Will I void my warranty by rooting my phone?
If so are there ways to enhance the phone without voiding the warranty? Like any custom roms that don't require the phone to be rooted?
To flash a ROM you need root. Root voids warranty. You can always revert as if you "never rooted" in case you need to take your phone in.
THere is no way they can void your warranty over the air? If not it sounds like my only danger is bricking the phone.
Not exactly sure what you mean by that; like if you root they somehow can tell "wirelessly" that you have, thus voiding. Not that I have heard. There was something like that with the iPhone I believe hearing, maybe not though. Or something they were working on, meaning not released.
And in terms of bricking your phone, that is supposed to be incredibly hard. Am sure someone has done it somewhere but you should be fine.
People say it again and again but it's worth repeating; read read read and read again. Then proceed.
Thnx for the replies.
Ok so I'm completely new to android and I'm thinking about rooting my Nitro. But I do have a few questions:
-What is the possibility of bricking my phone? (only rooting, no flashing roms etc...)
-How do I back-up my phone? (If I'm fine with factory reset, is it still recommended?)
-Do I void my warranty by doing this? (Could I "un-root" if I have problems and make a claim on my warranty (warranty is generic LG one that comes with phone)
-What advantages to I gain by rooting? (I know root access, but I mean like real world application)
*Thank you to anyone who helps me out!
I'm new to Android as well and was able to flash my Nitro fairly easily. I downloaded SuperOneClick and the LG drivers and that was about it. I wish I could link you to everything, but with a bit of reading here in the Nitro forum you should figure it out.
I've found that all the guys here are very helpful, so after searching and reading just ask what you need to and you'll get your answers.
As for benefits of rooting... I think the biggest benefit is a custom ROM. I haven't done that yet cause I haven't done enough reading on it. I do, however, thoroughly enjoy being able to move files around on my phone as opposed to my iphone limiting my every move.
SuperOneClick and the LG drivers worked for me...
You can root and unroot with SuperOneClick.
As long as you follow directions you should not be able to brick the thing during the rooting process.
After rooting you have to know what you are doing modifications so read up...
Hi all, I've done a fair bit of searching and reading up but not sure I can find definitive answers to whether there are any downsides to rooting my One X.
I am thinking similar to tethered jailbreaks in the iOS world, where if you run out of juice you have to cable up to get it to boot up etc.
I would like to root, so I have the freedom to use a few of the tweaks and mods on xda (such as the tweak to change the default - read too high - auto brightness levels), not sure I will actually replace my entire rom at this stage, just root so I can use some of these minor tweaks.
so, is there anything that I need to genuinely consider before making the leap, some specific questions that spring to mind are;
1. Can I always easily revert it ?
2. Read some posts where people are struggling to charge once it hits 0% ? Is this an actual problem if I just root ? I do not want to brick a phone or have to prize open the case to take batteries out etc
3. If I chose to replace ROM's in the future, are there actual apps that more or less backup all your apps and settings so you can just reload that one app after a new ROM is installed, restore a backup and I am good to go, or do you have to manually setup everything from scratch again ?
Thanks for any advice you guys can offer.
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The only downside to rooting is you get hooked on flashing. It's very easy to get back to stock. As long as you have proper RUU for your region that goes with your CID and all is fine.
At present, the only rooting method involves unlocking the bootloader. It can be locked again. But it's 'relocked' rather than 'locked'. So your warranty is still void in some cases.
I'm waiting for root method which doesn't require an unlocked bootloader. Or non HTCDEV Unlocked bootloader and S-OFF before I do mine, but that's just me
Sentinel196 said:
So your warranty is still void in some cases
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HTC will only refuse your warranty if you balls up your phone as a result of flashing roms. Everything else such as hardware defects will leave the warranty in tact.