Alright, so I rooted my Dinc yesterday, and there are several ROM's that I want to try out but am a little confused about a couple of things and the more I'm searching and reading, the more I'm getting confused. I'm probably over-analyzing it but I wanted to make sure before I venture on just to be safe. So if ya'll don't mind (as I'm sure these are total n00b questions that have been asked before):
1) My initial Nandroid backup - Does that backup the entire phone. So if I want to restore the phone to the original stock ROM and everything I can just restore the whole Nandroid backup and be good to go? My fear is flashing a new ROM, wanting to get the phone back to what it was stock, and not having a backup of it.
2) ROM's/Kernels. I thought a ROM included a Kernel to go with it, but I keep reading about people trying different kernels with certain ROM's. I'm really confused here so any info would help.
3) It is obvious that a lot of people have put in a LOT of hard work here. I just wanted to personally thank you all for the hard work and support, if it wasn't for what you guys have done and documented here, n00b's like me would be stuck with bloated handcuffed phones. So thanks a ton.
badogg said:
1) My initial Nandroid backup - Does that backup the entire phone. So if I want to restore the phone to the original stock ROM and everything I can just restore the whole Nandroid backup and be good to go? My fear is flashing a new ROM, wanting to get the phone back to what it was stock, and not having a backup of it.
2) ROM's/Kernels. I thought a ROM included a Kernel to go with it, but I keep reading about people trying different kernels with certain ROM's. I'm really confused here so any info would help.
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1). Yes, it does. If you were to restore it, it would be restored to the point you made the backup. That's why it is recommended before you flash anything, do a nandroid. It saves the headache of reflashing a ROM, or going back to a really old backup and losing anything you've done since then.
2). Yes, the developer will include the kernel with the ROM. People flash a custom kernel to overclock/underclock the CPU, better battery performance, among many other features. One thing to keep in mind: A Sense based ROM (HTC Sense) takes a Sense kernel, and an AOSP ROM (like CyanogenMod) requires an AOSP kernel. Don't flash an AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM (and vice versa), won't work and you'll need to restore your nandroid.
In the Development section, the developers are really good with explaining what it is they've produced, so you'll know what you're downloading, and if you are unsure, ask!
RMarkwald said:
1). Yes, it does. If you were to restore it, it would be restored to the point you made the backup. That's why it is recommended before you flash anything, do a nandroid. It saves the headache of reflashing a ROM, or going back to a really old backup and losing anything you've done since then.
2). Yes, the developer will include the kernel with the ROM. People flash a custom kernel to overclock/underclock the CPU, better battery performance, among many other features. One thing to keep in mind: A Sense based ROM (HTC Sense) takes a Sense kernel, and an AOSP ROM (like CyanogenMod) requires an AOSP kernel. Don't flash an AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM (and vice versa), won't work and you'll need to restore your nandroid.
In the Development section, the developers are really good with explaining what it is they've produced, so you'll know what you're downloading, and if you are unsure, ask!
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Awesome. Thanks for the reply, and I do apologize for asking things that were probably asked a hundred times over, I try not to be *that* guy, but I was just getting all confused over it and needed a direct answer.
badogg said:
1) My initial Nandroid backup - Does that backup the entire phone. So if I want to restore the phone to the original stock ROM and everything I can just restore the whole Nandroid backup and be good to go? My fear is flashing a new ROM, wanting to get the phone back to what it was stock, and not having a backup of it.
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It backs up EVERYTHING. Literally.
It returns your phone to the EXACT state that it was in when you did the Nanadroid backup. Every single phone call, setting, data, EVERYTHING.
badogg said:
2) ROM's/Kernels. I thought a ROM included a Kernel to go with it, but I keep reading about people trying different kernels with certain ROM's. I'm really confused here so any info would help.
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Roms come with their own kernels. just like roms, some kernels offer different tweaks to improve battery life and/or improve performance.
badogg said:
3) It is obvious that a lot of people have put in a LOT of hard work here. I just wanted to personally thank you all for the hard work and support, if it wasn't for what you guys have done and documented here, n00b's like me would be stuck with bloated handcuffed phones. So thanks a ton.
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i would also like to thank all the devs out there. while verizon is ending the life of the incredible, this community keeps it alive.
badogg said:
Awesome. Thanks for the reply, and I do apologize for asking things that were probably asked a hundred times over, I try not to be *that* guy, but I was just getting all confused over it and needed a direct answer.
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No problem!
O.M.G...
I loaded the CM7 nightly ROM and holy cow it has re-invigorated my Dinc. It is WAY snappier than it was before. Seems better on battery life so far.
LOVE the UI.
I am thinking of trying out other ROM's, but this CM7 ROM is seriously the shizz...
Thanks for this post, it clears up a few things for me as well.
Sent from my ADR6300 using......blah blah you get the idea.
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Hey everyone,
I'm really new to android modding, and don't know much about all this. I'm good at modding but never been on android before. I went through the stickies and full desire guide etc threads, but its really getting confusing for me.
I've come to know some things: (correct if wrong)
1) You have some custom ROMs which you can flash after rooting the phone.
2) Most ROMs have pretty much everything working, but some things don't work on some ROMs (like camera for some)
3) Rooting voids warranty.
Seeing the vast amount of ROMs in the development section, I'm confused which one to look for. Can anyone suggest me which would be the best (stable and everything working) ROM for me? I basically need APP2SD or APP2SD+ (NOT the froyo one because its useless, I'm talking about the custom one) and minor tweaks like changing the homescreen etc.
Which would be the best suited ROM for above description? Basically, what criteria decide which ROM to put on the phone?
@Moderators, sorry if its the same old story. I'm really confused and so HAD to make a thread.
Hi and welcome. A couple of points I can help you with:
There are loads of roms to choose from, I am using this rom atm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
Everything on this particular rom works fine and is very fast and stable. I generally find if roms have several revisions then are are generally very good. i.e. are having continuous support and developement.
As for rooting voiding warranty? Well this is no longer an issue as rooting can easily be reversed )
Hope this helps
LEWY
thehrushi said:
Hey everyone,
I'm really new to android modding, and don't know much about all this. I'm good at modding but never been on android before. I went through the stickies and full desire guide etc threads, but its really getting confusing for me.
I've come to know some things: (correct if wrong)
1) You have some custom ROMs which you can flash after rooting the phone.
2) Most ROMs have pretty much everything working, but some things don't work on some ROMs (like camera for some)
3) Rooting voids warranty.
Seeing the vast amount of ROMs in the development section, I'm confused which one to look for. Can anyone suggest me which would be the best (stable and everything working) ROM for me? I basically need APP2SD or APP2SD+ (NOT the froyo one because its useless, I'm talking about the custom one) and minor tweaks like changing the homescreen etc.
Which would be the best suited ROM for above description? Basically, what criteria decide which ROM to put on the phone?
@Moderators, sorry if its the same old story. I'm really confused and so HAD to make a thread.
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You do indeed need to Root the device before flashing, the only ROM that don't have 'things working' is the Desire HD ROM. I am not sure if that has been fixed or not yet though. All the other AOSP and Sense based Desire ROMs have everything working just fine. Rooting will void your warranty but it's super easy to reverse so there is nothing to worry about.
The most popular ROMs by far seem to be the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMs (Non-Sense ROMs), all of them will have APP2SD built into them, the Sense ROMs also have APP2SD built into them.
LeeDrOiD is by far the most popular Sense based ROM, RCMixHD is the Desire HD based ROM, which I think still doesn't have the camera working.
And by far the most popular Desire ROM overall is the ASOP Cyanogen based DeFrost.
To get the most out of APP2SD you will need to download ROM Manager and create an EXT3 partition on your SD card so the ROM will place all of the Froyo compatable apps into the partion and not your internal memory.
Being brand new to the desire, I've flashed every Rom available in the last 2 weeks.
Leedroid is a very good sense Rom. I prefer having a Rom with sense right now because this is my first HTC.
Right now I'm running the Aurax sense Rom, solely because it has its own setCPU built in.
The hd roms didn't impress me that much, not yet at least, with a little more time they will be awesome though.
The MIUI roms are also amazingly pretty, if you don't mind the iPhone feel. My only problem with it though, and I've been told this hardly happens, my battery life was pathetic.
At the end of the day though, apart from the hardware, it is android and all the available apps that make our phone so great.
All the custom roms do add a lot of speed to the phone though, you have to do a quadrant after you flash so that you can see how awesome the Rom makes your phone run. They also add additional functionality compared to the stock Rom.
Honestly, I can't see why anyone would keep any Android device stock when there are such amazing roms around. At the end of the day its all down to your own preferences and what functions you like. You'll love any Rom you flash.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks for such amazing replies. Meanwhile, I've also been through many ROMs and their descriptions. The terminologies are kinda new for me, but I can understand many things now....
The only thing I care about right now is App2SD because I found FroYo's move to SD doesn't help much. Also second thing is that I'm not having MY desire yet, its my friend's device m gonna try out everything on! So I'd be taking some extra care!
One big relief is that rooting is reversible. That'd be cool.
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
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Thanks for such amazing replies. Meanwhile, I've also been through many ROMs and their descriptions. The terminologies are kinda new for me, but I can understand many things now....
The only thing I care about right now is App2SD because I found FroYo's move to SD doesn't help much. Also second thing is that I'm not having MY desire yet, its my friend's device m gonna try out everything on! So I'd be taking some extra care!
One big relief is that rooting is reversible. That'd be cool.
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
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It is honestly impossible to brick a desire. I bricked my MOTO backflip, there was no coming back from that. With the desire I flashed something that didn't work, but pressing volume down and power gets you right into the hbooot menu, from there just mount as usb and copy over a new Rom to flash.
The one thing you need to remember, when flashing new roms the first boot takes a while, never pull the battery thinking there's nothing happening, that will destroy your phone and there's no coming back from that.
Before every Rom you flash make sure to do a factory reset in the recovery menu, that ensures that the new Rom will work to its full capability and minimizes the chances of experiencing problems.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
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You can brick your device flashing Radios, but you can always send it back to HTC, pay them an extortionate amount and they will revive it for you. But overall, the chances are slim to none in my experience.
Just make sure, after rooting, you make a Nandroid backup of the OS. Then you can do whatever you like to the phone and it will be reversable.
I keep a Nandroid of my DeFrost ROM, and one of my PaysROM, and I have one of my MoDaCo R8, you can switch between them just using Recovery, as the mood takes you, absolutely everything will be exactly as it was everytime you load the backup back onto the phone, I just wipe the cache, Dalvik Cache, factory reset the ROM then reinstall whichever ROM I want to use (DeFrost, PaysROM etc etc) from the SD card and then backup from the Nandroid.
Depending on the age of your desire, you shouldn't need to flash a radio though. I've never needed to flash a radio, but that's because my desire came with the latest radio, thankfully it still has the amoled screen.
If you do need to replace the radio and somehow brick it, if its still under warranty HTC will replace it for you because there is no way that they can prove you bricked the device.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Kalavere said:
Just make sure, after rooting, you make a Nandroid backup of the OS. Then you can do whatever you like to the phone and it will be reversable.
I keep a Nandroid of my DeFrost ROM, and one of my PaysROM, and I have one of my MoDaCo R8, you can switch between them just using Recovery, as the mood takes you, absolutely everything will be exactly as it was everytime you load the backup back onto the phone, I just wipe the cache, Dalvik Cache, factory reset the ROM then reinstall whichever ROM I want to use (DeFrost, PaysROM etc etc) from the SD card and then backup from the Nandroid.
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Wow that means you install a ROM, make settings you want, put in your data (phonebook etc) and then take a full backup. Switching between them is as easy as restoring a backup!
Is that right?
Initially, I'd be trying out ROMs, and would stick to the one which suits me best. I just can't wait before my desire arrives this monthend!!
thehrushi said:
Wow that means you install a ROM, make settings you want, put in your data (phonebook etc) and then take a full backup. Switching between them is as easy as restoring a backup!
Is that right?
Initially, I'd be trying out ROMs, and would stick to the one which suits me best. I just can't wait before my desire arrives this monthend!!
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It saves everything, app data, messages, settings, the lot. Although when switching ROMs I still factory reset, wipe the caches and reinstall the ROM I want to use before loading the backup of that specific ROM. I am not sure things will go so smoothly if you just reload the backups without factory resetting and reinstalling the ROM first, but it won't hurt to try.
Kalavere said:
It saves everything, app data, messages, settings, the lot. Although when switching ROMs I still factory reset, wipe the caches and reinstall the ROM I want to use before loading the backup of that specific ROM. I am not sure things will go so smoothly if you just reload the backups without factory resetting and reinstalling the ROM first, but it won't hurt to try.
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Exactly!
If I were to un-root my Droid Incredible, would I loose all the data I have.
e.g, SMS messages, contacts, applications+data for them.
If so, is there an application to back this up for un-rooted droid users?
Also, I never made a backup of the stock before flashing a new ROM, is it still possible to un-root?
Lastly, when un-rooting via downgrading, can I re-upgrade to 2.2?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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MyBackup or Titanium Backup can do this i believe.
This is what you need to get back to stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786436
I thought those apps only work when it's rooted though...
i'm not 100% sure, but you won't lose your contacts because those are synced with your google account.
Why do you want to go back to stock?
there's a way to save all your contacts, go to people, then hit the menu button and then press import/export. Export all your contacts to your sd card, and you can save your contacts that way. You won't be able to use titanium backup because it requires root and you're trying to unroot. Unrooting will ultimately bring you back to 100% stock, and you'll lose all your data and apps. If you want to unroot, just follow the directions i gave you in the last forum, and if you have questions ill answer them later.
To be frank, there's no true purpose to being unrooted just so you can make a backup. The only reason you would unroot is if you want to stay unrooted. There's a bunch of ROMs you can use so staying rooted would be more beneficial for you
The main reason I want to be un-rooted is because I miss having stock. :/
Meetii said:
The main reason I want to be un-rooted is because I miss having stock. :/
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what features are you missing? there's a lot more that you can do with an unrooted phone, faster speeds, better UI feel, more functionality, wireless tethering for free, but it's entirely your pick
Well I mean I like being rooted, but I can't seem to find a decent looking ROM that I like. The one I'm using now is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799679&highlight=droid+incredible+rom and that's the closest one to stock that I can find. I just prefered the stock look over the ROMs I've seen.
I'm about to flash the MIUI because it looks amazing, but do you have any suggestions for decent looking ROMs?
Meetii said:
Well I mean I like being rooted, but I can't seem to find a decent looking ROM that I like. The one I'm using now is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799679&highlight=droid+incredible+rom and that's the closest one to stock that I can find. I just prefered the stock look over the ROMs I've seen.
I'm about to flash the MIUI because it looks amazing, but do you have any suggestions for decent looking ROMs?
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Thats all about preference, some people like a stock looking rom, others like a highly tweaked rom.
skyraider 3.5 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764787
Check out that rom for a stock look but with many customization options so you can make it how you want basically.
Thanks, I'll revert to that if I don't like MIUI. Do I need to do anything special before flashing MIUI?
nope, everything needed for any rom you flash will be included with the rom and installed along with the rom when you flash it.
Alright, thanks a bunch. I also have two more questions.
What's the difference between a ROM and a theme?
And what's a kernel?
g00s3y said:
Thats all about preference, some people like a stock looking rom, others like a highly tweaked rom.
skyraider 3.5 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764787
Check out that rom for a stock look but with many customization options so you can make it how you want basically.
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it's exactly like how he puts it, it's all a matter of preference. What you like might not be what i like. There's a whole bunch of themes on top of the ROMS you use, so just take a while and go through each one until you find one that you really like. I prefer to the new sense roms and that's why i'm sticking with Uber Sense Rom. all a matter of what looks and feels good for you!
Meetii said:
Alright, thanks a bunch. I also have two more questions.
What's the difference between a ROM and a theme?
And what's a kernel?
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A rom is basically the base of everything, the tweaks in software and all of that is your rom. So to put it into perspective, it's windows 7. And what you have with themes is the overlay that goes over that. If you prefer a black overlay, if you prefer your start menu somewhere else, everything can be changed according to how the developer feels like. Some developers primarily do ROMs, others do themes, rarely do any do both.
A kernel is harder to explain, if i had to think of a way to relate it to computers, it would be the equivalent of BIOS. It gives you tweaks in speed and battery life. With a properly done kernel, you're phone will have a LOT more battery life, and have faster speeds. Now, not all people's phones react the same way to kernels. What kernel works for me, might not work for you. The kernel i use might give me days of battery life, while when you use it, it might end up giving you hours of battery life. Everyone's phone reacts different, there's no universal kernel that works best for everyone.
Thanks guys, I really like the MIUI theme so I'm going to stick with it. I don't think I'm going to mess with kernels though. Being that I don't want to mess up my phone again.
if you find that you want to flash a kernel later, it's pretty simple. Download the file, then flash like you would a rom, pretty simple haha.
Slight issue...
On the MIUI ROM, I downloaded a theme with the application it came with for downloading theme. After doing so, I went to install it on said application and now it's stuck on the MIUI booting screen and it's been about 15 minutes. Should I unplug the battery...or what?
EDIT: Problem solved.
Ok, first of all, I've done a lot of reading so I'm not just postin w/o lookin but, with all the posts out there I may have missed something... so if there's a thread(s) that answers this that you know of a link would be awesome.....
So I've been rooted for a while and want to try out a new ROM... had a few questions
1) Before I flash a new ROM I do a Nandroid and wipe so... when I flash the new ROM are all my apps still there or do I have to go into Titanium Backup and restore each one from the SD? .. Basically, once I flash, how do I get all my apps that I use on a daily basis back up and runnin?
2) I know making a Nandroid backsup the whole system so, if I flash a new ROM, kernel and all and then restore to pre-flash then I will have the original radios, kernel and everything?...
3) Is there a ROM that is really stable, fairly fast (would rather speed over battery life) and has a lot of pre-built themes built?... I've made a couple of my own "partial" themes with custom icons and such but would like some pre-made stuff to play around with...
4) I've learned a whole sh!t-ton of stuff from you guys on here so thanks, us average folks (non-programmer) appreciate it..
blakjak220 said:
Ok, first of all, I've done a lot of reading so I'm not just postin w/o lookin but, with all the posts out there I may have missed something... so if there's a thread(s) that answers this that you know of a link would be awesome.....
So I've been rooted for a while and want to try out a new ROM... had a few questions
1) Before I flash a new ROM I do a Nandroid and wipe so... when I flash the new ROM are all my apps still there or do I have to go into Titanium Backup and restore each one from the SD? .. Basically, once I flash, how do I get all my apps that I use on a daily basis back up and runnin?
2) I know making a Nandroid backsup the whole system so, if I flash a new ROM, kernel and all and then restore to pre-flash then I will have the original radios, kernel and everything?...
3) Is there a ROM that is really stable, fairly fast (would rather speed over battery life) and has a lot of pre-built themes built?... I've made a couple of my own "partial" themes with custom icons and such but would like some pre-made stuff to play around with...
4) I've learned a whole sh!t-ton of stuff from you guys on here so thanks, us average folks (non-programmer) appreciate it..
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1. You will restore all your apps with TB
2. If you restore a backup you will have everything back to before you flashed a new rom.
3. I like using Fresh but its a sense rom but very great , but yea just look around and pick a rom. Experiment and good luck
thanks man, I was already lookin at Fresh so I may give it a try tomorrow...
One more thing, I love the Swype keyboard and dont wanna lose it... so is that like an app that I just backup in TB and restore with whatever ROM I flash or a I stuck with the ROM's keyboard..?
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thanks man, I was already lookin at Fresh so I may give it a try tomorrow...
One more thing, I love the Swype keyboard and dont wanna lose it... so is that like an app that I just backup in TB and restore with whatever ROM I flash or a I stuck with the ROM's keyboard..?
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I'm not sure but I think you can download SWYPE from market.
EDIT : I have tried a lot of ROM here, I'll recommend you MIUI... Good luck and welcome to the DARK-Side... =]
blakjak220 said:
thanks man, I was already lookin at Fresh so I may give it a try tomorrow...
One more thing, I love the Swype keyboard and dont wanna lose it... so is that like an app that I just backup in TB and restore with whatever ROM I flash or a I stuck with the ROM's keyboard..?
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Its an apk file, so yes just back it up and your good , also fresh already has swype installed so your good to go.
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I'm not sure but I think you can download SWYPE from market.
EDIT : I have tried a lot of ROM here, I'll recommend you MIUI... Good luck and welcome to the DARK-Side... =]
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No swype is not on the market, nor can we post the apk on XDA
blakjak220 said:
Ok, first of all, I've done a lot of reading so I'm not just postin w/o lookin but, with all the posts out there I may have missed something... so if there's a thread(s) that answers this that you know of a link would be awesome.....
So I've been rooted for a while and want to try out a new ROM... had a few questions
1) Before I flash a new ROM I do a Nandroid and wipe so... when I flash the new ROM are all my apps still there or do I have to go into Titanium Backup and restore each one from the SD? .. Basically, once I flash, how do I get all my apps that I use on a daily basis back up and runnin?
2) I know making a Nandroid backsup the whole system so, if I flash a new ROM, kernel and all and then restore to pre-flash then I will have the original radios, kernel and everything?...
3) Is there a ROM that is really stable, fairly fast (would rather speed over battery life) and has a lot of pre-built themes built?... I've made a couple of my own "partial" themes with custom icons and such but would like some pre-made stuff to play around with...
4) I've learned a whole sh!t-ton of stuff from you guys on here so thanks, us average folks (non-programmer) appreciate it..
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1) Yes use TB to restore your apps. I recommend the paid version because it restores fast and automatically. I don't have to manually confirm each one like my cheap ass girlfriend...but she doesn't flash much. The poor Epic devs don't have froyo source.
2) Yes except for the radios. I nandroid just in case but I prefer reflashing what ever rom I'm going back to because nandroid restores just didn't run as well. But I have a new phone now so maybe that is changed.
3) Try MIUI its so fast that I underclock to 499 and it still feels like its full speed. It also has a built in theme manager. Also cyanogenmod has a lot of themes (turrrrible sentence structure). If you don't like aosp try myn's rom.
pm if you need any help
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No swype is not on the market, nor can we post the apk on XDA
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Oh ok, Thanks a lot for the info.
i think most of your questions are answered. i'll just give you the usual must try rom list:
myn's warm twopointtwo: this is the complete theme rom. it is simply fantastic. really, it looks like a new phone. performance is great, added apps are good, tweaks are good, everything is good really. it is definetally a must try. do not miss this.
caulkin's evio 2: another absolute must try. the tweaks are what make this rom special. caulkin knows his code. this is the fastest sense rom i have ever tried. simply speedy, fantastic battery, great tweaks by caulkin (almost all other devs use his tweaks) and a slick, silvery theme that makes sense look not ugly. in my opinion, this is myns only rival rom. crazy good.
ava-froyo z series: very good rom. ava knows his code. he has really dived deep into the evo's system, and made tweaks to just about everything, even how the radios interact. this is the rom if you want pure tweakage. works for some, for others it does not work. i'd reccomend trying it for 2 or 3 days to see if it is fantastic, or really slow and bad battery.
mikfroyo: i personally dont like this but many do. very small, fast rom.
then you have the aosp roms. these are not based off evo code. built from the ground up, using only google's base code for android.
cyanogenmod: humungous project. works on many different phones. vanilla style (google) android. many tweaks that should have been in android in the first place. this is the ultimate pure android. it should be what google uses for their stock. the things these people think up, makes iphones jealous. too much to name.
miui: many people like this. i dont, but its all preferance. iphone-like rom without all the, um, iphone. looks and feels as slick, fast, and battery efficiant as the iphone 4 itself, but its android! i have no idea who these dudes are, but they must be programmers because they baisically rewrote android to look, feel, and act like a crossover, with many tweaks in between. fully customizabe, not at all vanilla android. a must try. you may not like it but then again you may love it.
again, try caulkins, myns, miui, and any more that you may want.
any more reccomendations to add to this list?
Thanks for the info guys, really helped me out...
I know to do a nandroid backup but I've read all kinds of different stuff about what to backup and what app to use to back it up... apps? texts/calls? data? ... I just dont want to miss anything...
So far I've backed up all my apps in Titanium, my texts and calls with two apps for that, my contacts to google and just in case I backed up my whole SD card to my desktop... Anything that y'all can think of that I may have missed?.. Again, thanks
Yea thanks for the list.
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I was expecting that.
Either way, you really went above and beyond on backing up. I wouldn't worry about much more. To do a nandroid backup, boot into recovery. Scroll to backup/restore. Choose NAND backup. Make sure system, data, boot, cache, radio, and wimax are all checked. Then hit backup. Wait 5 minutes. Done. This is all assuming you have the newest Amon-ra recovery. If not, go to rom manager and choose flash alternate recovery at the bottom. Amon recovery is highly recommended over clockwormod. Sadly clockwork mod is the default for unrevoked.
So after you backup, make sure you wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache twice each before flashing a rom. Good luck
'Preciate all the help.. I now have Myn's Warm2.2 runnin and everything works great..
Also, just to note, if you like me FORGOT to back up all apps before flashing for the first time (ouch), you can get swype back very easily! They opened up the beta again, so you can just download from their website from your phone.
Sacshop said:
Also, just to note, if you like me FORGOT to back up all apps before flashing for the first time (ouch), you can get swype back very easily! They opened up the beta again, so you can just download from their website from your phone.
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Isn't swype in the newest ota now? Well, the beta is better. If you want the beta instead of the ota version, use root explorer or adb commands to delete swype.apk from /system/app/ and libswypecore.so from /system/lib/. Then just install the beta like normal, and accept the do not update to newest ota warning it gives you.
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Isn't swype in the newest ota now? Well, the beta is better. If you want the beta instead of the ota version, use root explorer or adb commands to delete swype.apk from /system/app/ and libswypecore.so from /system/lib/. Then just install the beta like normal, and accept the do not update to newest ota warning it gives you.
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How's the beta version better, what's it got that the version that's included in Warm2.2 doesnt have?
By the way, just my opinion but I tried MIUI and really didnt care for it.. too... iPhoneISH I guess, didnt feel as intuitive as Sense to me... but then again I've never had an iPhone.. anyway, just my 0.2cents
the beta version is better bcuz it is newer. newest is best, as they say. the ota is 2.7.something and the beta is on 2.17 already. the ota one is included in myns, and all sense roms. i'm not into miui either, but many people are. hey, its worth the flash to try it.
Oh ok, well I'll just stick with the OTA version for now I guess if there arent any glaring differences... and yeah, it was worth a try.. I can see how that would be someone's cup of tea.. just not mine.
Yes I would do the same if I had backed it up despite it being a stock version it never let me down. Regardless, you have a choice, for the time being
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hey xda fans....ok so i have a severe issue here:
i have the evo 4g...rooted... and am on sense with 2.2 and 3.70 (i think you guys know what that is) so anyway i want to get the new update and start really having fun with my phone. I have not been able to fully understand all this rooting and flashing etc...O_O so i installed ROM manager, which now some peeps are sayin dont use if you dont know what you are doing WELL HI, THAT WOULD BE ME so for all the experts, gods and godesses of rooting (EVO) flashing, please please please help me from start to absoulute finish...i need to know what am i downloading, running, saving and to where- that was a huge issue too i couldnt find the files after i downloaded them LOL if i am successful...I will post the greatest YOUTUBE, forum, blog about this..i am so lost right now
b4 i forget a couple updates of info everytime i tried to flash or do any type of recent updates i get the usb connection 170 error or maybe 171 cant remember now....ummm...i rooted originally with unrevoked so unrooting i wouldnt have a clue...and yes i have searched allll possible threads for help but i only get 50/50 and then still get messed up..thanks
thanks again and happy rooting
While I am not going to hold your hand as there is plenty of information on these forums and the internet, I will steer you in the right direction. Since you are rooted, all you really need to do is download the rooted version of the latest stock rom. There are a few in the development section. The version is 4.22. After downloading you will flash this rom in recovery. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before flashing the update.
DO NOT unroot just to install the update. You will lose the ability to root hour phone for the foreseeable future.
Good luck
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ok thanks i will try it now...stay tuned
Ur not going to see much difference. The update dissapointed lots of people expecting a new look. Install a couple of custom roms if u want to have some fun. I am using the MikG v1.03 Rom with new sense incorperated and its waaaay better than the stock update we just got.
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Pleat try to see this as advice and not being an ass.
Rooting your phone is really for being able to dig in to your phone and get all you want out of it and be able to customize more than the average evo.
What were your initial intentions for rooting? I get the draw to have free wifi tether but, that just happens to be one perk of it. Of course, there are the options of kernels and cpu clocking.
But, really the developers are attempting to bring the newest and most useful and functional features to the roms opening the full potential of your phone.
Aside from that, if you are unclear and confused about the process of flashing, you should really hold off and do some more research.
Go to the wiki page and read up! i spent about a month reading everything I could find on rooting, flashing, kernels, radios, prls, threads on roms and their issues and up sides. I knew what I was doing and what rom and features I was going to use.
Honestly, youtube will also be your friend. A few devs also post videos people have made about their roms including how to flash them. You should also read up on the results of mistakes made during flashing and how to fix them.
Get to know your phone and submit it to do your will!
Good luck!
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thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
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thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
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Your apps were gone because you wiped data. Try Titanium Backup - there's a free version in the market that allows you to backup and restore, get the Pro key to avoid agreeing to the permissions/install of each individual app. The Pro version also allows for a larger number of backups per app, where the free version limits to one and when you make another backup it overwrites the first one. You can also freeze apps with the full version, but if you enable "Chuck Norris Mode" in settings the free version will allow you to uninstall system apps. There are other perks to the Pro Key, but I digress...
If you backup your apps & data, you can restore them on the new one. Whenever you flash a new rom, always wipe data, cache and dalvik (dalvik cache is under advanced in Clockwork). If you're simply updating the rom (ie to a newer version by the same dev, like Cyanogenmod nightlies) you can just wipe cache and dalvik unless otherwise stated in the rom. Whenever you flash anything other than a rom - kernels, themes, mods, radios, etc - do not wipe data.
If you don't know which rom to use, as long as you have a nandroid backup you can always go back to your setup that you like... so flash away. If you want to stick with something closer to what you're used to, try Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo... it's still FroYo. If you want Gingerbread/Sense, I've heard great things about MikG. I would avoid any rom that needs you to partition your SD card until you get your feet wet & know what you're doing.
Oh, and if you decide to flash the new radio update, don't pull the battery when you see the screen you've never seen before - you'll brick your phone. Just wait it out, and it'll take you back to recovery where you can then reboot normally.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
Definitely look at Mik, and learn all you can about partitioning your card for APS2SD, you'll want that for the bigger ROMS, about flashing radios, very important to do that correctly, about theming, and so many other things that being rooted opens up for you.
Mik is great for sure, also kings roms. If you want something that is still htc sense there are many great developers and right now is the time because they are able to merge ports with the ota for the max performance for our phone while running gingerbread and having nifty new 3.0 sense features.
And maybe someday you will venture to the aosp world some day...
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Hi!
I had just recently rooted my phone and wanted some help with a rom to get. I know there are many roms, but I am confused in which would be a good one for me.
I wanted a ROM that is/does:
- save my battery life
- very similar to touchwiz
- keeps most of the samsung apps such as music player, video player, ect.
- debloated completely
- has more customization options
This are some of the things on my wishlist. Some of you are very experienced in the flashing and knowing the ins and outs of the roms. So if you have some good advice, please share!
Thanks!
imcol said:
Hi!
I had just recently rooted my phone and wanted some help with a rom to get. I know there are many roms, but I am confused in which would be a good one for me.
I wanted a ROM that is/does:
- save my battery life
- very similar to touchwiz
- keeps most of the samsung apps such as music player, video player, ect.
- debloated completely
- has more customization options
This are some of the things on my wishlist. Some of you are very experienced in the flashing and knowing the ins and outs of the roms. So if you have some good advice, please share!
Thanks!
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First of all welcome to the world of the rooted S3. On the Development page you'll see many many different roms and there are so many good options. There is also a great debloater tool. I'd take a look a enewman17's stock rom or even my rom as a good starter. There is a debloating tool in the Theme's and apps section that you simply flash in recovery immediately after installing the rom if you want FULL debloating. Enewman and I have done many tweaks while keeping the performance of the phone up and battery drain down.
I always suggest shopping around. I hold no bias as everyone has their own preferences. I would flash a few ROM's and run a new one every day if you want. You can always make a nandroid backup and come right back to the one you had before if you preferred it. Just my two cents! Happy flashing.
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First of all welcome to the world of the rooted S3. On the Development page you'll see many many different roms and there are so many good options. There is also a great debloater tool. I'd take a look a enewman17's stock rom or even my rom as a good starter. There is a debloating tool in the Theme's and apps section that you simply flash in recovery immediately after installing the rom if you want FULL debloating. Enewman and I have done many tweaks while keeping the performance of the phone up and battery drain down.
I always suggest shopping around. I hold no bias as everyone has their own preferences. I would flash a few ROM's and run a new one every day if you want. You can always make a nandroid backup and come right back to the one you had before if you preferred it. Just my two cents! Happy flashing.
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Firstly Thanks so Much for this reply. I did find some nice roms and might flash them. I am also going to explore your rom and see if it suits me But quick question. So if i had samsung stock 4.1.1, completely stock with root, and then I took a nandroid backup (in my experience these backups went by so quickly so i thought they didnt do a complete backup or something), if i flashed another rom, decided I didnt like it and then did the backup, would I go directly back to my samsung stock 4.1.1 with all my apps, app settings and have the root again?
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Firstly Thanks so Much for this reply. I did find some nice roms and might flash them. I am also going to explore your rom and see if it suits me But quick question. So if i had samsung stock 4.1.1, completely stock with root, and then I took a nandroid backup (in my experience these backups went by so quickly so i thought they didnt do a complete backup or something), if i flashed another rom, decided I didnt like it and then did the backup, would I go directly back to my samsung stock 4.1.1 with all my apps, app settings and have the root again?
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