Heres a little review for you guys.
http://www.mattfacts.dangdeals.com/2011/03/atrix-laptop-dock-review/
Nice quick review. I had a salesman fire one up at Frys with my Atrix. I'm a touch typist and found the keyboard to be very adequate. The touchpad is pretty large but my biggest complaint is the touchpad didn't have a slide scrollbar for webpage reading.
The only way I can imagine leaving my laptop at home is if Webtop has a RDP client so that I can remote into my laptop (in case I need to) and if I can get VPN to work on my phone.
$400 is just too much for what use I'd get out of it. However, I'd be a taker if the price were in the 200's.
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Nice quick review. I had a salesman fire one up at Frys with my Atrix. I'm a touch typist and found the keyboard to be very adequate. The touchpad is pretty large but my biggest complaint is the touchpad didn't have a slide scrollbar for webpage reading.
The only way I can imagine leaving my laptop at home is if Webtop has a RDP client so that I can remote into my laptop (in case I need to) and if I can get VPN to work on my phone.
$400 is just too much for what use I'd get out of it. However, I'd be a taker if the price were in the 200's.
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I also tried the touchpad on the laptop dock and found out that if you double tap and hold on the second tap you can scroll up and down that way.
Maybe once we get Webtop OS hacked up a little bit we can put zones on the touchpad. If anyone has any questions about the Laptop dock post them up and i'll answer them.
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The only way I can imagine leaving my laptop at home is if Webtop has a RDP client so that I can remote into my laptop (in case I need to) and if I can get VPN to work on my phone.
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This has been done, and it is awesome. It was the one feature really missing for me to be able to replace my laptop, and now we have it working
jkrohn said:
This has been done, and it is awesome. It was the one feature really missing for me to be able to replace my laptop, and now we have it working
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Wow! Great news. I just checked the dev thread and read about the RDP clients working. Nice. This webtop may mature into something useful yet.
Are you listening Moto? Free up the Atrix a bit.
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OK, maybe I am just too geeked about this phone, but I figured we should put a wish list up for those of us that cannot stop drooling over this device.
I know the Atrix has a decent size battery, but I am often without a charger and the more juice I have is the better. SO...
I wish Mophie would make a Juice Pack case for the Atrix 4G. They make some of the best extended battery cases for iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad I have ever used. The quality and extra battery life they have brought my iPhones has been unparalleled by anything else I have ever used. It would be sweet to have something like this for the Atrix.
A battery pack would be awesome; I can't really think of anything better though.
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A cheaper laptop dock haha
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A cheaper laptop dock haha
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and a cheaper multimedia dock (aka just a $20 charging station /w USB hub and hdmi adapter).
Coming from an old Tilt with hardware keyboard, I'd also like to see a portable mini-keyboard to connect to the Atrix - wired or wireless. Something like the foldable iGo Stowaway Keyboard would be nice, but that one appears to be discontinued.
Really what would be ideal would be some sort of usb-like add-on that clips onto the phone and gives it an optional phone-sized keyboard for those times that it's useful - and can be left in a bag otherwise.
I sometimes take notes on my phone, and I don't see touch-screen tapping being as convenient as a physical keyboard (even if it's miniature). The laptop dock is a neat idea ... but even if it wasn't overpriced, all you really need is a tiny keyboard to take notes, which is a lot easier to carry around than a full-sized (pseudo) laptop for times you don't expect to need it.
I'd like to see a better battery an a Bluetooth keyboard case - similar to the Keyboard Buddy for the iPhone.
a game controller like the ones they have for the iphone
Was just reading a post on gizmodo about best wireless keyboards link here... and finally found good use to my lenovo bluetooth keyboard sitting in the closet... it paired up with my phone absolutely no problem, now I can take notes and type like never before...
Take that, tiny blackberry keyboard.
Done it with a Logitech Android Bluetooth keyboard and a Thermaltake Bluetooth mouse. Awaiting arrival of my MHL adapter so I can hook up to a spare monitor.
going to buy a asus, transformer prime for that!
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Done it with a Logitech Android Bluetooth keyboard and a Thermaltake Bluetooth mouse. Awaiting arrival of my MHL adapter so I can hook up to a spare monitor.
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I'm also tempted by this concept. I think there would be a transition period where I moved all of my media and everyday use to my phone (with a keyboard and mouse and full size monitor)...and I bet it would be rapid and I'd only keep my PC for the only thing anyone uses PCs for anymore: Content production.
The only time I *need* a PC is for work stuff: Photoshop, Vegas, excel. Also Audition and a few other pro audio apps out of work...and I'm sure the excel thing could be taken out the the equation pretty quickly.
Everything else? Media consumption, web browsers, communications, etc...all on the phone and/or tablet now. To be able to take my main computer with me would be fantastic...it would also make PocketCloud infinitely more useful on a full screen with a full desktop interface (kb/mouse/full screen).
This is going to happen. Between "the cloud" and our own smaller clouds (home networks, SAN/NAS/Home Servers, media sharing hardware, etc) keeping a quad core 300-500 watt behemoth around is getting less and less necessary.
The only grey area so far is 'games', but, most people consume those on game consoles so that's likely a moot point.
...an interesting time to be alive in many ways, technology especially.
Yeah I did this as well. I never could pair it to my original epic.
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Do we need a Bluetooth USB received or do they pair directly with the phone?
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Do we need a Bluetooth USB received or do they pair directly with the phone?
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Mine does it directly from the phone. So easy. Just do it like u normally would and then enter the passsworr that it makes up on the keyboard and then it pairs and connects.
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help
Has anyone found a work around for the home button on the logitech tablet keyboard??? MY home button on my keyboard does not do anything. I have tried a combination of other buttons to see if i could get the same action with no luck. just wondering if anyone eles has had any luck???
I love the idea of android devices as a portable gaming console. They now have all the power of last gen consoles at least, the batteries last forever, tons of ports (usb, HDMI, BT), great built in screens and they're super portable. I started out just messing around on my Incredible, later had a GTab (which was a really early device that worked ok but had a bad screen) and now have a Xoom running ICS and have a Galaxy Nexus on the way.
Native android gaming is coming along nicely now to the point where I have about 50 games on my tab. Many of them are free or were daily deals on the Amazon store. Many of them I bought full price. All in all I've probably spent $50 on games. Some of them aren't so great, others are suprisingly good and the situation gets better every day.
I also enjoy a bit of emulation. Before you get all upity the only games I have been playing are ones I actually have the cartridge for. Mostly I have just been playing through Chrono Trigger (which I own so **** you!) along with the Giant Bomb endurance run.
Recently Onlive was also released for android and it is pretty impressive how well games play with even average internet connections. If you haven't tried this out you should. It's free and you can trial all games or up to one hour which is a service with value alone.
All 3 of these gaming experiences can benefit from one thing.
A CONTROLLER!
I have previously used a Wiimote and classic controller with an IME app which works well enough but having the Wiimote hanging off the controller as nothing but a bluetooth dongle is annoying and kinda kills the whole point of having a wireless controller in the first place. Datel apparently made a classic controller with the transmitter and battery built in for a while but I wasn't able to find any for purchase anywhere.
Next a few months back app started to hit the market that let you use the Dualshock 3 with Android devices. This is a pretty good solution. The DS3 is a great controller and the setup is reasonably painless. You just have to connect the controller to a desktop and run an app there to bind the controller to your android device. After that you run an app on the device each time you want to use the controller. You'll also have to configure the controls within some games for the controller layout. Not too bad but if you use the controller for your ps3 as well you'll have to plug it into the PS3 to reset it then connect it to your PC to get t back on the droid device. Now I use the PS3 with BT for my desktop using MotionJoy's software and switching between it and the droid is even more of a hassle which I won't go into because I haven't even figured out a reasonably quick method. Since both devices are using the controller via a weird workaround this isn't really surprising.
So today I went looking again and found 2 new options. A while back Gamestop announced they would be carrying 'Gaming Tablets' and as part of it they were going to be selling a wireless gamepad. Well apparently they have started getting them and I found one in stock on my commute home. First impressions were that the device feels cheap. At the $40 I paid it's already a bit overpriced but that according to the website is a discount from the original price of $99 which would be highway robbery. Though the button layout is essentially the same as a PS3 controller the device doesn't feel anything like a DS3 or a 360 controller. It's much lighter. The plastic is cheap and I'm sure with use, will begin to creek. It just feels like cheap Chinese construction. I'm not sure but I think the device is all digital, in fact I think all they did was essentially wrap a gamepad around a bluetooth keyboard. The triggers are digital for sure but the 2 sticks might be analog though I don't think so. They do feel decent with a good resistance on the springs. The D-pad is less exciting and feel mushy. The other buttons are serviceable, nothing particularly good or bad about them. They are two shoulder buttons on each side with 2 of them shaped like triggers and then the four normal face buttons (labelled 1-4 instead of the square, triangle etc as in the product page image). There are also four other buttons on the face which are the power button, the pair button, escape and enter. The power button is obvious but it should be noted the device powers on and off in a second or 2. The pair button is likewise pretty normal. The escape and enter buttons seem to be like the back button and action respectively in android which is kind of nice. It lets you use the controller as a general purpose remote for your tab. This is particularly nice if you want to use it for media on a TV with HDMI. What this means is that you don't really have a start and select button on the face. The left stick seems to be mapped to standard keyboard arrow keys while the right stick and the D-pad are mapped to letters or numbers. The device has a rechargeable cell which is nice and this is charged from a standard USB port. I'm not sure yet about battery life but it seemed to get a full charge after about half hour.
Considering the lack of other dedicated options for tablets this device isn't all bad. It does what it should. It requires no apps or setup other than pairing up to your device which takes seconds. It also powers on and off in seconds and each reconnection is near instant. Also it should be noted that this should work with any BT enabled android device. I don't think there are any version restrictions.
I have tested it with a snes emulator which it works perfectly with. I also tried GTA3 for Android, in which I was able to run around, grab a car and drive by default. I could probably get it working well enough if I took some time to config the controls in game.
All in all this device is a bit of a tough sell at $40 especially if you have a PS3 controller already and don't mind the relatively minor hassles that entails. If you can find one for $20 or even $30 its would be much more reasonable.
I was thinking the device might be mod-able due to it being so light. I have seen some people get things like the MSI BT controller fit into a snes controller frame. Unlike those devices though this is essentially one large PCB with the button contacts right on it except for the shoulder buttons and analog sticks. This would limit options. Maybe someone will find some good options but that will only increase the cost of course.
Product page:
http://www.gamestop.com/android/accessories/tablet-wireless-bluetooth-controller/97838
The second option I found today is much sexier but a little pricier. It is the Onlive Universal Wireless Controller which I have high hopes for. Everything I have read about it seems to indicate the level of material quality is much higher. Also it requires Honeycomb or ICS which means it isn't just a BT keyboard. Full Onlive support is obvious and again according to my reading it comes with a BT dongle for use with the PC but I'm hoping it will work with my standard dongle for simplicity. The device even comes with a rechargeable pack and a AA cartridge just like the 360 controllers which is a nice feature. When connected to a PC you can use up to 4 of them with one dongle which is nice. Perhaps the tablet will be able to support multiple controllers as well but I haven't read anything about that yet, There are also a number of media buttons on the controller which could prove convenient. I'm hoping this will let me replace both the Gamestop controller for my tab and my DS3 for my PC while being able to switch easily between them.
http://www.onlive.com/controller
Anyway, I ordered one tonight and I'll probably write something up about it next week.
Nice review. I was considering the Gamestop controller but now might wait.
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I'm looking forward to your onlive controller review. at $50.. that's definitely a hard sell, but given the service you pair that with.. negligable.
Subscribing.. thanks for this!
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Don't forget, zeemote is another option for a compact bluetooth controller.
lordgodgeneral said:
Don't forget, zeemote is another option for a compact bluetooth controller.
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I have seen that device. It just seemed like with only directional and one (maybe 2) buttons the device doesn't really support much. I'll have to look into it more. Maybe if I can find one cheap I'll grab it and take a look.
PS My Onlive controller should arrive tomorrow so I'll get something written up on it likely by the end of the week.
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I'm looking forward to your onlive controller review. at $50.. that's definitely a hard sell, but given the service you pair that with.. negligable.
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$50 is a bit steep but for me anyway I'll probably be able to sell off my PS3 controller which I just use for my PC now and use the onlive controller. If I get $40 for the PS3 it turns out to be pretty much a wash. I know that's probably not the case for most but it may help some. Anyway we'll see how good it is soon
Looking forward to the review of the OnLive controller!!
I have a PS3 and 2 controllers but the kids use them (nearly) every day so I really can't use one of those and switch it around all the time.
Also I don't believe the PS3 controller can be paired with 2 different Android devices at the same time. Eh, I don't mean real-time concurrency, I mean I don't think I can have it set up on both my Bionic and Xoom and switch between them without having to set it all up again on the PC. If I'm wrong about that please correct me! If the OnLive controller can do that I'll be sold!
I want one of these
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/10/2...n-iphone-android-gamepad-controller-announced
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$50 is a bit steep but for me anyway I'll probably be able to sell off my PS3 controller which I just use for my PC now and use the onlive controller. If I get $40 for the PS3 it turns out to be pretty much a wash. I know that's probably not the case for most but it may help some. Anyway we'll see how good it is soon
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I agree that $50 for just any old regular controller is robbery. LOL. I refuse to buy brand new xbox controllers for that reason. But one controller that can be used on multiple platforms.. meh.. i can mentally justify that.. though I'd rather not ya know? LOL.
in the meantime i discovered an app called "BT Controller" that lets you use one android device to control the other. so I'm going from my GS2 to the Xoom
Ad supported - https://market.android.com/details?...GwsMSwyLDEsImRyb2lkYmVhbi5idGNvbnRyb2xsZXIiXQ..
Paid version ($1) - https://market.android.com/details?...DEwOSwiZHJvaWRiZWFuLmJ0Y29udHJvbGxlcmZ1bGwiXQ..
it's not PERFECT but it works.
Looks like the app uses airpush avoid like the plague.
(Doesn't even mention it supports the xperia play which would be the obvious choice).
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Anyway we'll see how good it is soon
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Not that I'm trying to rush you or anything..... But did ya get it yet? Did ya?! Did ya?! Did ya?!
I completely forgot about the onlive controller. I got a promotional email a few days ago from onlive where if you pre purchased their new soccer game 39.99 full play pass, they were actually giving away the entire gaming system for free. I just checked offer expired today. That really sucks, I was so.busy last week I only glanced at the offer. Basically for 40$ you'd get the game which came out today and the wireless controller setup along with their consule box to hook up to any TV. Which costs 99.99 alone, I should of jumped at the offer instead of waiting. Let me know how it work, so I can kick myself for now I'll have to pay 50 just for the controller
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Wiimote?
I used a Wiimote with Gensoid today using the Wiimote Controller app from the marketplace, didn't realise it was so easy - worked straight off with only minor hassle of having to switch between Wiimote and Keyboard input manually. Great for those old 3 and 2 button controller games!
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I used a Wiimote with Gensoid today using the Wiimote Controller app from the marketplace, didn't realise it was so easy - worked straight off with only minor hassle of having to switch between Wiimote and Keyboard input manually. Great for those old 3 and 2 button controller games!
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I downloaded it and tried it out based on your post, works great with nesoid! I had a few setup and mapping issues but once I got those sorted everything is working fantastic.
Dual Shock all the way
I am also impressed with the gaming capability of the Xoom and I have been enjoying playing Modern Combat 3. Using a decent controller makes all the difference and my controller of choice is the Dual Shock controller from my PS3.
It is true that it cannot be paired with two devices at once, which is a bit annoying, but it works really well. I cannot I imagine why anyone would pay $50 for a controller that is not as good. Just buy a Dual Shock controller and the SixAxis application and you're all set.
Hi guys,
Do any Note owners use a bluetooth keyboard? (and mouse?)
Instead of buying a PC for my bedroom which I don't really need, I am just gonna connect my Note to my TV using the HDMI cable but it would be nice if I had a decent keyboard and mouse to use when browsing the web. They do not have to be tiny since they will be used at home but does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks!
Pictures, videos, links welcome.
AdzUK said:
Hi guys,
Do any Note owners use a bluetooth keyboard? (and mouse?)
Instead of buying a PC for my bedroom which I don't really need, I am just gonna connect my Note to my TV using the HDMI cable but it would be nice if I had a decent keyboard and mouse to use when browsing the web. They do not have to be tiny since they will be used at home but does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks!
Pictures, videos, links welcome.
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Honestly man they all work equally well. I have the Motorola BT keyboard and it's very comfortable. It includes the media features like the play/pause/stop/skip/and volume as well as some shortcut buttons for the browser, music, back, and home button. It's nice and easy to use. I also have the logitech mouse and it works nicely. But it's really up to what would be most comfortable to you as they all work pretty much the same.
This one looks good
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/tablet-accessories/keyboards/devices/tablet-keyboard-android
I am am looking at the iPad version.
Cheers
that states Android 3.0+ is the bluetooth protocol versions the same between GB and HC?
SOLVED: online reviews have this paired to older phones and tablets with FROYO and GB.. so yup its all ok.
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This one looks good
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/tablet-accessories/keyboards/devices/tablet-keyboard-android
I am am looking at the iPad version.
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There are smaller cheaper ones that fit into the pocket
https://www.amltelecom.com/kleinhandel/products/Mini-Bluetooth-Keyboard.html for example
PPCApache said:
This one looks good
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/tablet-accessories/keyboards/devices/tablet-keyboard-android
I am am looking at the iPad version.
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It looks very nice, but a tad too expensive.
Any other recommendations for a bluetooth keyboard & mouse set for the Galaxy Note???
(I am assuming it has to be bluetooth since I will be using the MHL cable to connect to a TV.)
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Honestly man they all work equally well. I have the Motorola BT keyboard and it's very comfortable. It includes the media features like the play/pause/stop/skip/and volume as well as some shortcut buttons for the browser, music, back, and home button. It's nice and easy to use. I also have the logitech mouse and it works nicely. But it's really up to what would be most comfortable to you as they all work pretty much the same.
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Which one do you have and how much was it, do you have a link please?
AdzUK said:
It looks very nice, but a tad too expensive.
Any other recommendations for a bluetooth keyboard & mouse set for the Galaxy Note???
(I am assuming it has to be bluetooth since I will be using the MHL cable to connect to a TV.)
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I have the logitech keyboard and it does not work with the stock rooted GB note OOTB. I am waiting for ICS to troubleshoot it if I will even need to. Supposedly it will work with anything above android 3.0. It does come with a very nice multi-function case/stand though, so when it does work with the note I will probably begin carrying it instead of my laptop.
http://www.ebay.it/itm/TASTIERA-MIN...pt=Tastiere&hash=item1e687a6e8f#ht_4256wt_952
or
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Wireless-Min...Trackballs&hash=item3a651a8585#ht_6476wt_1185
I am using an iGo stowayay kbd. works pretty good
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I'm using the Freedom Pro keyboard. Works great.
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got my pretty HP WebOS BT Keyboard QWERTZ for 22Euro from amazon
works with normal batteries, extra functions: back, for music: play/pause, loud+-, silent
also using I-Tec Bluetouch 243 laser mouse (small to midsize, nice to use)
with on/off switch,
3 cursor speeds,
pressing scrollwheel opens menu
(the 2 additional side buttons so far without function on my note)
I found this one on ebay and would like to try it:
It's 14$, it is big enough for 10 finger writing and it looks very nice. Has anyone maybe tried it?
Wireless Keyboard 6mm Ultra Slim Aluminium Bluetooth 3.5 For PC Macbook Mac iPad
I can't post links, but you can find it in ebay for about $14.
It seems to be made mainly for Apple devices, do you guys think it will work with Android as well?
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I found this one on ebay and would like to try it:
It's 14$, it is big enough for 10 finger writing and it looks very nice. Has anyone maybe tried it?
Wireless Keyboard 6mm Ultra Slim Aluminium Bluetooth 3.5 For PC Macbook Mac iPad
I can't post links, but you can find it in ebay for about $14.
It seems to be made mainly for Apple devices, do you guys think it will work with Android as well?
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Some game stream games like LoL and Diablo 3 can be played using a keyboard and mouse. This doesnt even account for the productivity bump of having kb/mouse. Ive been looking for an affordable bluetooth kb/mouse but cant seem to find anything im sold on.
Id like something small and portable, rechargeable via USB would be a plus but not required. Id also dont want to break the bank. Hoping to get both for under $75. A keyboard that can be folded or collapsed for portability would be good but not if the trade off is quality or price.
Has anyone been using a bt kb/mouse and if so any recommendations?
Thanks
Edit: Should mention i have the shield tablet
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Some game stream games like LoL and Diablo 3 can be played using a keyboard and mouse. This doesnt even account for the productivity bump of having kb/mouse. Ive been looking for an affordable bluetooth kb/mouse but cant seem to find anything im sold on.
Id like something small and portable, rechargeable via USB would be a plus but not required. Id also dont want to break the bank. Hoping to get both for under $75. A keyboard that can be folded or collapsed for portability would be good but not if the trade off is quality or price.
Has anyone been using a bt kb/mouse and if so any recommendations?
Thanks
Edit: Should mention i have the shield tablet
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Im also looking into the same thing. As I also Play D3 but Ive tried to find something in my local Best Buy but to no avail. The lighted Logitech keyboard that is meant for a mac or iphone in the apple section worked GREAT but it did cost 75 alone. Only suitable mouse found there was 56.
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Im also looking into the same thing. As I also Play D3 but Ive tried to find something in my local Best Buy but to no avail. The lighted Logitech keyboard that is meant for a mac or iphone in the apple section worked GREAT but it did cost 75 alone. Only suitable mouse found there was 56.
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Check this out on amazon. SHARKK® Backlit Keyboard Wireless
and the Microsoft Sculpt Touch Mouse on amazon also. Comes to 57 free ship.. not bad.. I'm ordering now
The keyboard looks promising. Doesnt look like the mouse is BT though. When you get them let me know how it works. Thanks
EDIT: i may have been looking at the wrong mouse. Explorer touch isnt BT, Sculpt touch does appear to be.
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The keyboard looks promising. Doesnt look like the mouse is BT though. When you get them let me know how it works. Thanks
EDIT: i may have been looking at the wrong mouse. Explorer touch isnt BT, Sculpt touch does appear to be.
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I will. They should be in tomorrow evening EST
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I will. They should be in tomorrow evening EST
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Did they work out for you?
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Did they work out for you?
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They sure did. Both work great. They keyboard is super thin and really portable. Very lightweight. And the mouse is good and solid on the weight as it takes 2 AA batts. Im happy with both.
I love using my Logitech K810 and Razer Orochi, Both Bluetooth, and work really well with the Shield tablet!
Cool ill take a look into it. Still waiting on the cover to come. Really liking the shield controller. Excited to see how games like Diablo 3 or LoL work with kb/mouse. Any other recommendations would be great. Thanks
I have the Logitech for Androids/Windows BT keyboard and that works well, although I mostly use the Logitech MX5500 that I have for my desktop PC at home and work (and the mouse that comes with it)... I just find that mouse and keyboard so incredibly comfortable to use. Would vouch for most Logitech stuff in this space.