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Every time I reboot, the initial start of Sense it FCs.
It does restart and then run normally, but I'm wondering
what is causing the problem?
What might cause a force close on sense at boot time? My environment is
listed in my signature -- I'm also using outlook (virus checker) if it matters.
How can I address it. would reloading / reinstalling my rom (virtuous 3.2)
help ?
Can I save my PIM data and wipe and reload it? I need to preserve calendar
(phone) a phone contacts. I do NOT sync to google. Would My Backup Pro
do for that? Would that save my contact groups?
I was thinking maybe there is something in system data that was crashing sense?
so a reset / rebuild would help?
Thanks
I use my backup pro and it'll sync apps and ddata contacts calanders basically everything but it never worked with dictionary for me. Reloading the rom may help and you can reload it without wiping since its the same rom as before.
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Have you tried fixing permissions in Rom Manager? That might solve your problem. If not I would say backup everything that you want, and then wipe everything and then reinstall the rom.
My guess is something is sitting in Sense data corrupting your sense UI.
Go into Settings > Applications > Running and locate HTC Sense (might be 2) and clear data.
This will cause you to have to redo all your home screens but you will not lose your data and will not have to redo e-mail etc.
I was thinking the same thing
although, would that account for it working the second time it tries to run?
that is, it FCs on initial start. but when it tries to run again, it appears
to work and the home screens come up.
the data is in /data or /data/data right? so if I make a nandroid
backup, I could return to where I am now?
fuzzynco said:
although, would that account for it working the second time it tries to run?
that is, it FCs on initial start. but when it tries to run again, it appears
to work and the home screens come up.
the data is in /data or /data/data right? so if I make a nandroid
backup, I could return to where I am now?
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Yes, do a nand backup however, the way you clear it is
Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Running > then click on HTC Sense (the larger one) and clear data.
No need to go into /data/ at all
Hello to all,
After flashing and rom, once I have logged in my google account, i have to clear data and cache from market to prevent the automatic installation of all my apps.
Since I have the backup i don't need this automatic restore.
How can I disable it expecially with gingerbread roms???
Thanks!
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1. Wipe everything via CWM (data/cache/dalvik cache). Do it manually. Install the ROM you want.
2. Reboot your phone. Do not setup your google account now.
3. Go to settings ---> Privacy ----> Check Backup my settings (you need to do this to uncheck "automatic restore" option) and uncheck "automatic restore" option.
4. Restart your phone. Set up your google account. Uncheck backup my settings.
This will do it. It is indeed very useful when you do not want the rests from your previous ROM.
When I check and unchecked it ask me if I want to delete all copies from google servers and I said yes.
Now when I flash new rom no apps will be restored?
But I have always indicated in my application on market which apps i have bought?
Thanks
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Just sharing my recent experience and fix after trying nearly everything (except flash Raidroid stockify RUU).
Original Rom, LeeDrOiD 2.2.3 with ext3.
Nan-backup & backup sdcard to pc, flash CWM 3.0.2.8, Remove sdcard at merge partitions with Mini-tool Partition Wizard Wizard and FULL format fat32. Flash CoreDroid, after setting up Google account, WiFi password etc, automatic download app & sync occurred, after a number of apps were downloaded and installed automatically, I was getting the above error for everything. After Download Error, Gmail stuck on “sending”, but able to sync / receive new emails.
I have internet access through both Edge & WiFi.
I have tried the below “fixes” for CoreDroid GB & after reinstalling LeeDrOiD :
Cleared Market cache/data (no option to uninstall updates)
Cleared Download Manager
Cleared HTC Check in Service
Reboot clearing Dalvik in recovery
Edge or WiFi / Airplane
Droidwall is disabled
Fastboot disabled
Updating existing apps or download new (free or paid)
Unmounting sdcard when attempting DL
Automatic update of date & time disabled/enabled. Checked date & time is correct.
Disable in Privacy Settings (Backup my settings & Automatic restore)
Enable Unknown sources in App settings
Market Enabler
Same error if log into Market account on pc and try download app
Battery out for 5 mins
I have no task killers etc.
Same radio, as had not yet flashed a new one for the GB
Flashed CWM 2.5.1.3 , create ext3, FULL wipe, FULL sdcard format in pc and quick format using CWM & restoring various previous CWM backups, and doing the above with/without ext3,
FULL format of sdcard & Full wipe of all partitions again in CWM recovery prior to clean install of LeeDrOiD
FOUND THE FIX!!
Cleared Gmail data/cache along with Market etc !! WooHoo!!
Only have to setup Gmail app settings / preferences again. Don’t know why as worked fine before.
I'm still having problems. I've installed MDJs_ViVO_Sense_v.3.1.1 on my girlfriend's HTC Desire HD as well as my own. I had no problems with mine. My phone was not branded beforehand (I'm on T-Mobile from Carphone Warehouse). Hers however was locked to Orange originally.
Everything works perfectly except for the Market Download Error as mentioned above. Some paid apps reinstalled perfectly instantly, others have failed. They can be sent manually to the phone from Market on a PC by clicking the "Installed" button on the site.
What I don't get, is that on Market on a PC, they show up as installed, but are not on the phone. I have tried clearing data and cache from both Market and Gmail on the phone.
Her phone with error:
ROM - MDJs_ViVO_Sense_v.3.1.1
PHONE - HTC Desire HD
CARRIER - Orange (UK)
ANDROID VERSION - 2.3.3
HTC SENSE VERSION - 2.1
BASEBAND VERSION - 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
KERNEL VERSION - Unavailable
BUILD NUMBER - -=MDJ's ViVO Sense v.3.1.1=-
SOFTWARE NUMBER - 2.36.405.8
BROWSER VERSION - WebKit/533.1
All my details are identical except my carrier is T-Mobile (UK) and works perfectly.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Try some of the steps above, in particular these in this order;
Disable in Privacy Settings (Backup my settings & Automatic restore) & sync OR delete .lostdir & .androidsecure folders on sdcard
Enable Unknown sources in App settings
Clear market cache
Reboot into CWM recovery & clear dalvik cache
Sign into market again
If you have "Market Enabler" app, try that after doing the above, you will need to give SU permission after you select provider & "fake provider". If not give the above a try first.
Also. it has been suggested to checkdisk your sdcard for errors as well.
Sometimes Google Market is down, so may not be an issue at all.
Edit: If you have Titanium Backup Pro, you have an option: Menu -> More -> Market Doctor
Try after doing the above, can help restore broken market links.
Can anyone point me in the direction of where to get this market enabler app please
If you can DL from market? It's free. If not, let me know and I'll fire up the laptop and attach.
Edit: Here it is attached:
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If you can DL from market? It's free. If not, let me know and I'll fire up the laptop and attach.
Edit: Here it is attached:
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Nice on ta
Thanks, UpInTheAir. I've tried all those steps except step 1, so I'll try them all again including step 1 in that order. Thanks for your time.
It seems that almost all the missing apps have now downloaded and installed, so it would seem that it's a case of waiting for the Market to get round to it. Thanks for your help.
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Disable in Privacy Settings (Backup my settings & Automatic restore) & sync OR delete .lostdir & .androidsecure folders on sdcard
Enable Unknown sources in App settings
Clear market cache
Reboot into CWM recovery & clear dalvik cache
Sign into market again
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thank you. this finally worked.. i tried every other method out there.
is there a minimum amt of posts needed before i can press thank you button?
i don't see it anywhere!! lol
No worries. You've already said thanks, but to answer your question, you need the premium app (option when long tap) or can also hit the button from pc. Not sure about min number of posts though.
Glad it worked.
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Upintheair...lol yea i see it now thanks for the info.
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UpInTheAir said:
Try some of the steps above, in particular these in this order;
Disable in Privacy Settings (Backup my settings & Automatic restore) & sync OR delete .lostdir & .androidsecure folders on sdcard
Enable Unknown sources in App settings
Clear market cache
Reboot into CWM recovery & clear dalvik cache
Sign into market again
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Did these few steps, it solved my problem, thanks dude
Hi there,
I already searched about this but i cant really find anything useful to me.
The problem is: I have a HTC Desire and everytime I change rom from new sense he restore my old apps from the old roms.... How can i stop that auto installation? Its so annoying.
Best Regards!
portela =)
U mean google's automatic backup?
Settings>Privacy>Backup Settings
Either the previous post or are you using an EXT partition for data2sd? If so, you will have to format that partition in between flashing roms.
If you flash new roms, you should do a full wipe. All installed should be deleted with this action.
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U mean google's automatic backup?
Settings>Privacy>Backup Settings
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Yes, I am talking about google's automatic backup...
I was already there before but I just dont want apps restore... i want contacts from google :\
And "Automatic Restore" disabled solves this?
Are these google apps or apps you installed yourself which reinstall themselves?
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MatDrOiD said:
Are these google apps or apps you installed yourself which reinstall themselves?
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Apps that i installed before and now they reinstall themselves >_>
u know the solution?
portelaux said:
Apps that i installed before and now they reinstall themselves >_>
u know the solution?
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What was told: Do a full wipe before flashing a rom. With this action the /data partition and ext partition (and some other partitions, but these two are the were apps will be installed) will be formatted. Now apps should not install "themselves". A solution for now:
Manually uninstall the apps which reinstalled themselves.
And you can turn google's automatic backup off . You get the google contacts from syncing with google account (settings>accounts & sync). I also turned off this automatic backup, sync on the described way and i have all my google contacts on my phone. Furthermore, i (would) backup myself with titanium backup + nandroid + sms backup & restore.
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What was told: Do a full wipe before flashing a rom. With this action the /data partition and ext partition (and some other partitions, but these two are the were apps will be installed) will be formatted. Now apps should not install "themselves". A solution for now:
Manually uninstall the apps which reinstalled themselves.
And you can turn google's automatic backup off . You get the google contacts from syncing with google account (settings>accounts & sync). I also turned off this automatic backup, sync on the described way and i have all my google contacts on my phone. Furthermore, i (would) backup myself with titanium backup + nandroid + sms backup & restore.
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I always do full wipes when I install roms... I think that the problem is that sense or something saves downloaded apps and it downloads again the apps.
http://www.htc.com/europe/howto.aspx?id=719&type=1&p_id=312
Your phone backs up the following types of data and settings whenever there are new additions or changes:
- Text and multimedia messages
- Settings in the Messages application
- Web bookmarks
- Keyboard dictionary
- Settings in your phone that fall under these categories:
Wireless & networks
Sound & display
Location
Applications
Date & time
Language & keyboard - only the Locale setting
I really dont understand how dont u all have this problem.. even the background desktop picture is there after another rom install >_>
still searchin more ideas :\
Now i am finished with my knowledge. Sorry. It sounds so strange that apps reinstall themselves.
sad thanks by the way
any1 with an idea about this?
bump help
The only way I have found is as soon as you've gone through the setup process on initial boot with a new ROM, rush to Settings > Applications, then terminate Market application and clear its data. It stops it autodownloading the apps again.
Then I install what i want using Titanium Backup, and then I run Market. It does a "first start" user agreement thing and you're all back to normal, without the market redownloading apps you downloaded under previous ROMs.
Not a brilliant solution but better than nothing.
kingqueen said:
The only way I have found is as soon as you've gone through the setup process on initial boot with a new ROM, rush to Settings > Applications, then terminate Market application and clear its data. It stops it autodownloading the apps again.
Then I install what i want using Titanium Backup, and then I run Market. It does a "first start" user agreement thing and you're all back to normal, without the market redownloading apps you downloaded under previous ROMs.
Not a brilliant solution but better than nothing.
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thanks about that info
what about the background picture, it restores too... do u know where does that come from?
bump i really want to try to adjust this
I know this is old but did anyone ever solve this. I have t mobile now and everytime I factory reset my phone or change Roms it installs old Verizon apps. Soon as I log into my google accout
Grizeg said:
I know this is old but did anyone ever solve this. I have t mobile now and everytime I factory reset my phone or change Roms it installs old Verizon apps. Soon as I log into my google accout
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Whenever I change Rom I don't add my Google account in the initial setup. Before u do that, go settings , privacy, backup/restore. The auto restore option is ticked but greyed out so u cant select it. Tick auto backup box, de select auto restore, and deselect auto backup again. Now it should'nt restore anything...
Here's the guide for rooting by rivera82falcon:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219246
Guide for installing ROMs by me:
Before installing the ROM...
1, Download Titanium Backup from the market, allow superuser permissions, then click menu>batch>backup all user apps.
2. Make sure fastboot is off in settings>power.
3. Put the ROM zip on the root of your SD Card
4. Download SMS Backup and Restore, and backup your SMS.
5. Back up your contacts by checking "back up my data" or something like that under settings/privacy
How to install the ROM...
1. Turn off phone, and hold power and volume down until you get a white screen that says Hboot.
2.Volume down/up is for scrolling; power is for selecting.
3. Scroll down and select RECOVERY.
4. Scroll down and selected BACKUP AND RESTORE.
5. Select BACKUP and wait for it to finish.
6. Hit the back button to go back to the main menu.
7. Scroll down and select WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET.
8. Scroll down and select WIPE CACHE PARTITION.
9.Hit the back button to go back to the main menu.
10. Scroll down and select ADVANCED, then WIPE DALVIK CACHE.
11. Hit the back button.
12. Select mounts and storage and select FORMAT SYSTEM.
13. Hit the back button to go back to the main menu.
14. Scroll down and select INSTALL ZIP FROM SD CARD, then CHOOSE ZIP FROM SD CARD, then whatever the ROM zip is.
15. Let it do its thing. This may take 5-10 minutes. DON'T PULL THE BATTERY.
16. When it is finished, hit the back button to go back to the main menu.
17. Select REBOOT SYSTEM NOW. This boot may take up to 15-20 minutes so be patient. Once again, do not pull the battery!
18. Run the initial setup. When you're setting up your google account, make sure the "keep data backed up" or whatever box is checked. This will make sure to restore your/keep your contacts backed up.
19. Redownload Titanium Backup. Hit menu/batch/restore missing apps with data.
20. Redownload SMS B+R. Restore your SMS.
21. Enjoy your new ROM!
Nice guide for those not wanting to use a ROM manager.
When I restore the user apps will that also restore the app settings and gamesaves?
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klabit87 said:
When I restore the user apps will that also restore the app settings and gamesaves?
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I would recommend restoring the app only, and then go back and restore the data. You will then have whatever settings you had as well as game scores, levels etc after doing this. Just make sure that before you flash a new rom, to make a new backup, or at least a backup of the apps or games that may have had the settings, scores or levels changed. I have gotten into the habit of backing up my games after I get done playing. Nothing worse than flashing a new rom, and have to go back a few levels and start over
Just wondering - what exactly does formatting do? I've always done a system wipe, cache wipe, and dalvik wipe before flashing but I've never formatted. I've flashed a good half dozen ROMs without issue, so I was just wondering what the deal was with formatting.
I also haven't been wiping battery stats when flashing. That one makes sense to me though.
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Just wondering - what exactly does formatting do? I've always done a system wipe, cache wipe, and dalvik wipe before flashing but I've never formatted. I've flashed a good half dozen ROMs without issue, so I was just wondering what the deal was with formatting.
I also haven't been wiping battery stats when flashing. That one makes sense to me though.
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I wouldn't wipe batt stats unless your flashing on a full battery. Really just a full data wipe and dalvik cache wipe will do it.... Then mount system and fix permissions if you're having trouble with rom after install/reboot. Can't hurt to follow above procedures, minus a battery stat wipe every time. That will reduce your battery's life over time...
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Formatting is generally used to erase the SD Card, such as if your were going to partion the SD Card, or change the File System IE Ext 3 to Ext 4.
Guys, I updated the OP, based on feedback.
And I think the reason that I did all that extra wiping was from back in the droid incredible 1 forums. When gingersense roms came out, the op's of every thread said to wipe EVERYTHING like 3 times. I just did everything once, but still. I probably didn't need to wipe all that stuff.
Maybe change the title to "Noob's Guide to Flashing ROMs Manually"? The noob way to flash a ROM (or managing/creating backups) is definitely using Rom Manager.
Done. Good point, although ROM manager is known to mess things up.
Yeah what's now in the OP is the exact procedure I've been using, it's been working great so far.
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I've never wiped battery stats, not really sure what the benefit is. Used multiple batteries and ROMs on my previous phone.
If you do a factory reset it wipes your data and cache. I generally just do a factory reset/dalvik wipe on new ROMs. When flashing over a ROM, just format cache and dalvik.
If you are really picky you can go into advanced and wipe each partition there manually.
thanks for the great write up. i hope this isn't a stupid question, but when you're switching roms and doing all this formatting do you lose your pictures, text messages, contacts, etc.???
wiping cache and dalvik is redundant after doing a data wipe/ factory reset. dalvik cache lives on the data partition. and the factory reset wipes cache already anyway.
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I've never wiped battery stats, not really sure what the benefit is. Used multiple batteries and ROMs on my previous phone.
If you do a factory reset it wipes your data and cache. I generally just do a factory reset/dalvik wipe on new ROMs. When flashing over a ROM, just format cache and dalvik.
If you are really picky you can go into advanced and wipe each partition there manually.
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I wipe battery stats now, but not through recovery. I download battery calibration from the market, and follow the instructions in the app. Major increase in battery life.
lddrew said:
thanks for the great write up. i hope this isn't a stupid question, but when you're switching roms and doing all this formatting do you lose your pictures, text messages, contacts, etc.???
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If you wipe cache and/or dalvik cache only, no. If you wipe data/factory reset, you will lose any of the above on PHONE STORAGE. You can save pics to the SD card, so they won't be deleted, you can download SMS Backup and Restore from the market for texts. For contacts, some ROMs have backup assistant. For those that don't, make sure you check "backup my settings" under settings/privacy on your current ROM. This will back up your contacts to you google account. After you flash a new ROM, just check the "backup my settings" box when setting up your google account. Also, just redownload SMS B+R, and restore your SMS. If your pics are on the SD, they will still be there, you don't have to do anything. Hope this helps.
Lots of edits in the OP.
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I wipe battery stats now, but not through recovery. I download battery calibration from the market, and follow the instructions in the app. Major increase in battery life.
If you wipe cache and/or dalvik cache only, no. If you wipe data/factory reset, you will lose any of the above on PHONE STORAGE. You can save pics to the SD card, so they won't be deleted, you can download SMS Backup and Restore from the market for texts. For contacts, some ROMs have backup assistant. For those that don't, make sure you check "backup my settings" under settings/privacy on your current ROM. This will back up your contacts to you google account. After you flash a new ROM, just check the "backup my settings" box when setting up your google account. Also, just redownload SMS B+R, and restore your SMS. If your pics are on the SD, they will still be there, you don't have to do anything. Hope this helps.
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thank you so much, i've been doing a lot of reading but this has all the answers i was looking for in one place. i really appreciate it. thanks!!
This is the only guide I've managed to find that gives simple and concise instructions. Many other guides leave out steps, use different names for things, or use abstract terminology.
Very well done and a HUGE thank you! I'm new to rooting and I've been trying different roms like I've been doing it for years.
I'm glad I helped. I flashed my first ROM with my friend giving step-by-step instructions over the phone lol.
This is exactly what I do for ALL of my android devices.
However...especially when going from aosp to sense...or vice versa...system, data and cache should really be formatted.
This is really a solid habit to get into...as I do this with every ROM. This way I can accurately find bugs if applicable and helps me determine if the ROM quality is up to snuff.
Kinda like hand tightening lugs on wheels and torquing them.
Great writeup. Thanks!
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