currently running a class 2, and i do notice alot of lag when copy and saving stuff so wanna upgrade, thinking of getting this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingmax-mic...1AIC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1299847078&sr=8-3
yea yea, i know if t "kingmax" so it will either be crap or amazing (more likely crap)
but my question is, is it worth getting a class 10, would the htc support it, and would it be able to make use of it?
thanks in advance
I have a "generic" 32GB class 10 OEM by a local company here in Malaysia, and I must say it is noticeably quicker than my previous class 4 16GB card when used in the phone (a2sd). Transferring files using the laptop on the other hand is wayyyy faster...
Whether its worth the money over a class 6 equivalent i can't say.
Regarding "Kingmax", I have a usb flash disk of theirs and its blazing fast Lets hope they are consistent.
I use a decent Samsung 8Gb class six and I get a 10-11Mbps transfer rate, which is more than enough for me. I got the card for something like £12. My old class four used to peak at about ~6Mbs if I remember rightly.
I have a class 10 kingmax and it's working great,i'm running data2sd on it and no issues at all. But i recall i heard some ppl had some lag issues with class 10 cards (not kingmax in particular).As for kingmax specifically it's guaranteed u'll get 10 Mb/s write speed.
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Mine is a kingstone 16GB class 10 and it rocks !
I have a Kingmax 16GB Class 10 and I get above 10MB/s for both writing and reading when testing using SD Card Speed Test. However, the rom and kernel on your HTC does make a difference, I think, on whether your Desire can fully utilise the Class 10. I don't think it would be worth it to use a Class 10 over a Class 6 if you're using a stock rom, but if you're using a rom with data2ext or data2sd, that uses the SD card extensively, then it'd probably make a difference.
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Hello all,
Ive got a spare 16GB Micro SDHC card which i have swapped for the stock 2GB version that came with the Desire, but it is only a Class 2.
Having read that its best to use Class 6, should i shell out £50 for a new one, or will i not notice a difference in class ?
Dunno - I'm using a class 2 16gb card myself and I don't notice much slowdown if at all. I'm surprised these things haven't come down in price after two years... key thing is do you notice any slowdown with apps that access the SD card? like I say, I haven't thus far...
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i read somwhere that class 4 is enough coz the phones do not support hihger speeds. class 6 will help you if you will take card to the card reader straight to the computer... it think
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... Having read that its best to use Class 6 ...
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Where have you read that, please?
tomeeq12 said:
i read somwhere that class 4 is enough coz the phones do not support hihger speeds. class 6 will help you if you will take card to the card reader straight to the computer... it think
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Thats what i ......... think. Im sure it only matters if its connected to the PC, and in that case i dont care.
I read it on another forum that i wont link too
Class 6 are almost double the price of Class 2.
You don't NEED to get one, I did use a Class 2 card for a few days and didn't have any problems.
Personally I am using a Class 6 now, as I regularly transfer a lot of big media files onto the card, so the extra speed is worth it for me.
If you don't fancy forking out though, you don't have to.
I totally agree, My desire came with a 4gb sandisk class memory card which I initially assumed was class 4 until I took the card out yesterday...connecting the desire to my pc and switching to usb drive mode, i am able to transfer my movies etc to the memory at +/- 8Meg per sec which is more than adequate enough for me...I was about to get a 16gb one but was thinking of getting the class 6 one until i discovered the one I currently have is class 2, so I just made up my mind and went for a class 2 16gb, saved me money....
They only refer to the write speed of the card, i came from a 8gb class 6 and now have a 16gb class 2 and notice no difference, only difference is the write speed from pc to card.
Even though i got a class 2 i still see 4-6mb/s so happy enough with that.
I have a class 10 16Gb card in phone. Read and write speeds seem to be limited to around 8Mb per second (copying uncompressed music). Using an adapter, the computer is able to copy at 14Mb+ using the same card.
They just seem a big outlay for nothing to me, lets face it the only big write time is when you transfer everything across from your previous card once the stuff is on there the write times really won't be much of a problem.
The main reason you will find people suggesting class 6 and above SD cards is due to "Apps to SD". For the Newbies "Apps to SD" or A2SD is a modification that has been done on most android phones (though not the desire at time of writing) which allows the Apps you download to be stored on the SD card rather than the phones limited internal memory. I am not sure if it makes a huge difference to the faster processor phones, but in the G1 days it was noticeable. For just moving music and pictures about it isn't really important to have a faster card and we may have to wait a while for A2SD anyway. I will pop over to the N1 forum and see if they can shed some light on this.
Anyone using a microSD 16GB Class 4, if so are they any good? I'm looking at buying one for the Desire. Also where's the best place to get a deal on one of these card?
I am planning to replace my 2GB class 2 microSD card, and came across to this Kingmax 8GB class10.
I am wondering if Wildfire can actually supports class 10 microSD card?
I dont see why not.
whats the point for class 10? Oo
such a waste of money.. my god...
unless its a 700$ camera dont do that Oo
take class 4...
and 16gb
See something about class 10. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741060
I have class 4, 8GB and phone is quite fast. I think that class number is not that important, but 2 and 8 GB is big diference.
It should work but one thing you might want to check into. Most class 10 cards have a excellent write but slow read. Personally, I think you're better off with a class 6 to get the best of both read and writes.
I have an 8gb class 4 and that works fine for me
Just upgraded to a 8gb class 4 a few days ago and working great so far with openfire
Just bought a Kingston 8gb class 4, works fine!
I use 8gb left from my nokia e51, just formated it. Works fine.
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Upgraded to a 16gb class 4 card. I'm getting transfer speeds of 8 to 10 mbps when copying stuff from my comp. Apps like poweramp work smoothly whereas with the 2gb card that came with the phone, playback was a bit choppy.
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First is Samsungs new class10
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/21373672/Samsung-16GB-Plus-Micro-SD-Card-Class-10/Product.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=sd+cards+class+6&urlrefer=search
Second is Samsungs new class6
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/21373670/Samsung-16GB-Essential-Micro-SD-Memory-Card-Class-6/Product.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=sd+cards+class+6&urlrefer=search
Both have read speeds of 24MB and both come out on first of august. For the price you cant really go wrong and nice size also 16gb.
I really would like the class10 only thing stopping me is alot of people having bad performance with the desire. Would they be much difference between the two?
Thanks All help welcome, And I do give THANKS
No one have any info on theses?
Couldn't tell you but I've only had problems with Samsung products in the past.. why not sandisk?
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TNPaparazzi said:
Couldn't tell you but I've only had problems with Samsung products in the past.. why not sandisk?
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I have used samsung alot and not had problems with them, and am liking the price of theses ones. even the sd card that comes with the desire is a samsung card, so maybe this class10 will work well.
Not sure the class 10 would be the same speed as the class 6 .. otherwise what would be the point in getting a class 10 ?
Class 10's are faster, but there are a few issues floating around .
A good class 6 will do the trick very well .
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Not sure the class 10 would be the same speed as the class 6 .. otherwise what would be the point in getting a class 10 ?
Class 10's are faster, but there are a few issues floating around .
A good class 6 will do the trick very well .
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Its the write speed thats different the read speed is the same, they say on the site
Am thinking just go with the class6 that way I know its going to work.
Just called HTC and they said class 10 is not supported, they said there htc desire is fully supports class 2, 4, 6
so looks like am buying class 6
i suggest you a Sandisk's MicroSD. They are the fastest.
Higher microsd class parameter don't mean that your phone will run faster.
Some microsd have high speeds for small files and low speeds for bigger ones and others have opposite skills.
so a class2 can run more faster your phone than a class 10
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Just called HTC and they said class 10 is not supported, they said there htc desire is fully supports class 2, 4, 6
so looks like am buying class 6
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i have a class 10 in mine, works fine. (this one: http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...archsource=0&searchstring=pny&urlrefer=search )
there's also this:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/21618986/Play-com-16GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-Memory-Card-Class-10/Product.html?P36=UXJHH4&affid=hotukdeals&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:hotukdeals
no idea how good the play branded one is - but the PNY one does the job for me
when i read up it said the class was just the min. write speed. so you can have a class 2 writing as fast if not more than a class 10, its just the min that can change
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Just called HTC and they said class 10 is not supported, they said there htc desire is fully supports class 2, 4, 6
so looks like am buying class 6
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Well there is obviously someone there that you talk to, that don't know s**t about they're products, Desire support class 10 with no problems.
you can read here two, and there are alot of users that can prove that class 10 is working perfectly on Desire.
Thanks guys, Yer I have seen alot of people on here using class10 fine and also seen alot of complaints about them. So I have already ordered the Samsung class6 16GB. Witch to be fair shouldn't be much difference in the two
Lothaen said:
i have a class 10 in mine, works fine. (this one: http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...archsource=0&searchstring=pny&urlrefer=search )
there's also this:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/21618986/Play-com-16GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-Memory-Card-Class-10/Product.html?P36=UXJHH4&affid=hotukdeals&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:hotukdeals
no idea how good the play branded one is - but the PNY one does the job for me
when i read up it said the class was just the min. write speed. so you can have a class 2 writing as fast if not more than a class 10, its just the min that can change
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PNY is a great card, am using there class4 from play.com, I been using Droidzone's Data2SD RoMs fine with class4, but other day started using MIUI RoM, (superb RoM) but am getting FCs and lag so MIUI must use SD card alot more. I have gone with Samsung this time because ive used there SD Cards lot in other phones even the stock desire sd card is from Samsung and I know there first class
Get the class 10 card
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Bought a 32 gb micro class 10 today and its acting really weird. Still have my 16gb and it works perfect.
Running stock 2.2 still, is 16gb max or what? If yes and I upgrade to 2.3 legit upgrade will it work with a 32 gb?
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No, it's the class 10. Lot's of threads on this, try a class 6 card.
Class 10 is not so good on desire z. Try a class 4 or 6 card
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Ok so... I bought another one with a class 4.
Class 10 no name: everything works normal but transfer is super super super slow...
Class 4 kingston: weird when I open my computer and turn on the usb connection the H drive (sd card) keeps showing up and disappearing then showing up and disappearing over and over... wtf gives?
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ok so im throwing both the sd cards in the reader and formatting them. see if that fixes my problem.
if you still got the packaging and recipt you can still return the cards if they dont work
I'm running a 32GB Class 10 card with no problems. Maybe it's just your card. I had problems with the partitions on my original Wintec card and the company sent me a new one as a replacement.
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I'm running a 32GB Class 10 card with no problems. Maybe it's just your card. I had problems with the partitions on my original Wintec card and the company sent me a new one as a replacement.
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Ya, thats the one. Finished formatting and copying files to the cards. The Wintec one which is class 10 is running a little bit weird. I'm try the kingston class 4
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Class 10 is not so good on desire z. Try a class 4 or 6 card
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I have 16GB Class 10 Joyflash (noname). Could you tell, why Class 10 "is not so good on desire z", becouse I dont understand this.
If card reader of desire is slow, on level of Class 6, if you put Class 10, doesnt change anything, but why "is not so good"?
I can safely say that my 32 GB class 6 has no issues. I've been reading on the subject and for some devices the class 10 is flaky... might just be a firware/software issue. Who knows.
But I'm ok with my class 6. Write: 9mb/s and read 24.3m/s
Ok so after everything last night I ended up keeping the kingston class 4 instead of the wintec class 10.
One thing that everyone should know if they are planning to upgrade soon and have forgotten this. The speed to write to a micro sd is slow then the speed to copy from a micro sd. This is my experience last night at least... I can copy a certain file to my desktop in 40 seconds but to put it on took 2-3 minutes.
Anyways, just be patient and go to a place you can get refunds so you dont get screwed with a bad card lol. With my experience the 32 gb class 10 wintec sucks, the write speed was insanely slow. So I stuck with a name brand instead, I really wanted a sandisk but they werent available.
Mog said:
Ya, thats the one. Finished formatting and copying files to the cards. The Wintec one which is class 10 is running a little bit weird. I'm try the kingston class 4
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Actually, my original Wintec card was screwing up and wouldn't keep the data partitions written. The replacement I got from Wintec is working the way it should, and it actually is acting like a class 10 card.
Mog said:
One thing that everyone should know if they are planning to upgrade soon and have forgotten this. The speed to write to a micro sd is slow then the speed to copy from a micro sd. This is my experience last night at least... I can copy a certain file to my desktop in 40 seconds but to put it on took 2-3 minutes.
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Class ratings refer only to write speed. And write speed is always going to be slower than read speed.
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Class ratings refer only to write speed. And write speed is always going to be slower than read speed.
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This AND, class ratings were documented before smartphones for the purpose of professional photography use in cameras. I have never had any speed issue with my good old class 2 card in my smartphone.
iDAREK said:
I have 16GB Class 10 Joyflash (noname). Could you tell, why Class 10 "is not so good on desire z", becouse I dont understand this.
If card reader of desire is slow, on level of Class 6, if you put Class 10, doesnt change anything, but why "is not so good"?
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Lots of threads on this, search "sd card"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804421&highlight=sd+card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849494&highlight=sd+card
Also, check this out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022678&highlight=sd+card
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No, it's the class 10. Lot's of threads on this, try a class 6 card.
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Thank You: I can confirm this.
I had to put a SD in my old DesireZ/Vision for one of my son (10 years... there's no religion....) to replace a old 4GB crashed one.
The phone is running SenseI ROM (fine ROM: a very good way to replace the stable CM7 and run ICS 4.0)
I bought on Amazon Samsung EVO uSD 16GB Class10... and it was not recognized... So I read it on the PC to see if is was good or not: it was OK!
Recovered the trouble upgrading the Galaxy S2 of the other son from a old 8GB class 4 (probably Kingston o Transcend) to the brand new 16GB EVO Class 10, and putting the old 8GBB in the Desire Z: quickly recognized and optimally mounted both cards over both the 2 phones!
But I was disappointed... more than speed performance I thought that Class 10 memory card were also better on quality, due to a more robust and stable architecture of the chips inside.... and
much more recommended for the "systemdisk-like" use on Android Smartphones!
After lots of searching and reading can anyone help with SD card choice? Why is it such a problem for this phone? Is there different hardware in the phone or is it the way the ROM or Kernel addresses the card that seems to cause so much trouble?
For every card that is recommended you can find somebody who has had issues with same card so do I need to find out about the hardware in phone or stick to ROM or kernel threads for best card for me?
Have tried 3 cards so far and the lowest spec one was the best!! I know there are lots of reported problems with class 10 cards but also lots say their phones perform great with them but I found the class 10 PNY 8GB card the slowest I've used and a class 4 8GB sandisk the fastest with a class 6 8GB samsung nearly as fast but still cannot work out why there is so much trouble with SD cards
Ive been using a class 6 A-DATA sd card for quite a while now and I must say, I'm impressed with its speed. Its great for A2SD and SD ext. I tried sebastiaans rom, and it runs pretty smooth on this card, WAY better than on my class 2 samsung sd card.
In the end its just a matter of taste, some say Samsung is better, some say A-DATA is and others Kingston. Ive read that a class 10 card is a bit of overkill for the usage and that a lot of them arent as fast as they claim to be. I'd say class 6 will do just fine! The brand does not matter, stick with the big names tho . Kingston, A-DATA and Samsung seem to be bought the most!
Thanks but still want to know why, what is the limitation...the phone hardware or rom/kernel? I'm on seb15 AIO5.0.2 now with cm7 r2 hboot and the class 6 samsung 8GB in much faster than the class 10 PNY 8GB so not getting any lag now but seems no different to the class 4 sandisk that i replaced due to card errors but that was on standard HBoot.
Have just ordered a sandisk ultra 16GB card for extra space so hope it is as good or better and it was a bargin http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...-Micro-SD-HC-Memory-Card-Class-6/Product.html
but what is the fastest read and write speed you can expect from the hardware? I use antutu now to check speed.
andy3434 said:
Thanks but still want to know why, what is the limitation...the phone hardware or rom/kernel? I'm on seb15 AIO5.0.2 now with cm7 r2 hboot and the class 6 samsung 8GB in much faster than the class 10 PNY 8GB so not getting any lag now but seems no different to the class 4 sandisk that i replaced due to card errors but that was on standard HBoot.
Have just ordered a sandisk ultra 16GB card for extra space so hope it is as good or better and it was a bargin http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...-Micro-SD-HC-Memory-Card-Class-6/Product.html
but what is the fastest read and write speed you can expect from the hardware? I use antutu now to check speed.
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I have tried 2 of those 16gb ultra mobile dual color cards and I had a lot of frezes, with AIO 5.0.1SE rom, CM7r2 Hboot. So I had to go back to my lexar 16gb class6.
Hhmmmm like i said for every good report on a card there is a bad one, have read a few good reports on this card and the original class 4 sandisk card has been the best i've used so far so thought would give it a try...hope I'm lucky with it!!
It should arrive today or tomorrow so will repoet what i find
Well the sandisk 16gb ultra mobile has turned up and been running it for a few days now with no problems, ROM is running smooth with no freezes so far.
Using antutu to bench mark it and it appears to be slightly faster than the class 6 samsung 8GB it replaced, alot quicker than the class 10 PNY but still slower than the old class 4 sandisk 8GB!
ROM runs sloothly and I have enough space for now so will stick with it.
Yep... ultra mobile is the best card that I ever use till now.
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Well the sandisk 16gb ultra mobile has turned up and been running it for a few days now with no problems, ROM is running smooth with no freezes so far.
Using antutu to bench mark it and it appears to be slightly faster than the class 6 samsung 8GB it replaced, alot quicker than the class 10 PNY but still slower than the old class 4 sandisk 8GB!
ROM runs sloothly and I have enough space for now so will stick with it.
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Thanks to let us know, but can you tell me what rom are you using with it? are you still using Seb rom? CM7r2 or Stock hboot? Thanks
Seb rom still, version 5.1AIO and cm7 r2 hboot
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We recommend a Class 6 Transcend for any kind of data swapping like data2sd, or data2ext, on the basis of maximum positive feedback. A class 10 is more often overkill and most brands are incompatible with the Desire, while a Class 2 might be underpowered (in terms of speed).
Personally tested cards with data2sd:
Class 2 Kingston-Ok
Class 6 Transcend 4GB-Great
Class 6 SanDisk 16GB-Lags
Class 6 Samsung 16GB-Great
Class 4 3CPro 16GB-Great
Class 10 Transcend 16 GB-lags
The polls section of supernova.droidzone.in has some polls regarding speed of card with my roms.
..and you can't get a more useful response than that!