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[Q] How the heck did I Unroot?

OK, so I'm a bit of a n00b here, and I need just a quick hand.
I'd flashed Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo a few days ago and was attempting to use metamorph to tweak the battery icon. Ran a Nand backup beforehand. Something went wrong with the metamorph and I was stuck in a bootloop afterwards.
So I hit power and held down on the volume rocker, hoping to get into my Nand.
Instead, it wouldn't let me select anything, went through its own update/recovery process, and now that it's done, I'm back to stock (complete with sprint bloatware) and totally unrooted. I DLed Rom Manager off the market and tried to get into Amon_Ra recovery, but it keeps telling me I don't have permission (thus I deduce I've lost root access.)
Is there anyway I can flash my Nand at this point, or do I need to go back through the rooting process?
Thanks for your help.

MadDogMaddux said:
OK, so I'm a bit of a n00b here, and I need just a quick hand.
I'd flashed Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo a few days ago and was attempting to use metamorph to tweak the battery icon. Ran a Nand backup beforehand. Something went wrong with the metamorph and I was stuck in a bootloop afterwards.
So I hit power and held down on the volume rocker, hoping to get into my Nand.
Instead, it wouldn't let me select anything, went through its own update/recovery process, and now that it's done, I'm back to stock (complete with sprint bloatware) and totally unrooted. I DLed Rom Manager off the market and tried to get into Amon_Ra recovery, but it keeps telling me I don't have permission (thus I deduce I've lost root access.)
Is there anyway I can flash my Nand at this point, or do I need to go back through the rooting process?
Thanks for your help.
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To get a recovery on your phone, you need to have root.
To get root need superuser permissions and/or nand unlock
To get nand unlock and superuser permissions you need to go through the rooting process.
If you've used unrevoked 3.21 and have S-OFF. You can flash recoveries and superuser permissions without having to go through any rooting process.

So I guess then what I need to understand is how would I go about flashing the superuser?
edit: at this point I've already gone through the whole rooting process, including unrevokedforever.zip and the additional ENG bootloader. I get into ROM manager, and go to recovery, but the clockworkmod recovery doesn't see my most recent backup. Reflashing to RA recovery, it finds it, but tells me I have to run the recovery via ADB. ???

Pretty sure what happened is that you left a stock pc36img.zip on your sd card, leftover from your rooting process. When you booted into hboot, it loaded it automatically and you must have hit update. Not sure what caused your bootloop though.
Check your sd card, and if theres a pc36img.zip on it, delete it. Look for the superuser app in your app drawer, and also check your hboot to see if you're s-off. If you are in fact back to unrooted stock, you can always run unrevoked to quickly root and then you can restore your nandroid, just make sure you have the same recovery that you used to make the nandroid.

MadDogMaddux said:
So I guess then what I need to understand is how would I go about flashing the superuser?
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When you go into the loader (Vol Down + Power) does it say S-Off in the first line?
If it does then you still have root and you can flash the custom recovery's .zip and you will be able to load back into recovery.
If you have S-Off read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8285266&postcount=1
Flashable SuperUser is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828

_MetalHead_ said:
Pretty sure what happened is that you left a stock pc36img.zip on your sd card, leftover from your rooting process.
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Definitely. So now I need to get my microSD card reader and remove it. Can do.
Any idea why both Clockworkmod and Amon_RA are unable to load my backup? Versions for RA should be the same, and I think the same for Clockwork as well.

OK, I deleted PC36IMG.zip, now it just stays stuck in bootloader.

looks like I'm hosed, but here's what I'm learning on Freeza's thread, where I DLed the PC36IMG.zip in the first place:
freeza said:
UPDATE: It appears as though everyone is getting stuck in bootloader after this procedure. You can get out of this by reflashing your current ROM (without wiping) and/or restore a nandroid backup. Some have reported errors when trying to restore a nandroid backup. YMMV
Karadorde has put together a package that works. Read his instructions below:
First and foremost it seems that if you get stuck in the Bootloader (no matter what method you are using) then your Nandroid backups are broken. I don't know that anyone has been able to successfully restore from one of those yet.
The file in the OP allows you to apply just the engineering HBOOT.img (hboot_0.76.2000.img) This works flawlessly for some but not so well for others.
The file in Post 71 and Post 91 allows you to apply a full PC36IMG.zip that contains the engineering HBOOT.img (hboot_0.76.2000.img) This is a fix for some who have gotten stuck in the Bootloader after using the file from the OP. At the same time this has also caused the some of the same issues people were having with getting stuck in the Bootloader from the OP. This file will not downgrade any part of your phone, however, it will wipe the phone. Also it is reported that it broke root on one phone. I believe this only happened to one person, need confirmation on if it happened to multiple.
If you get stuck in the Bootloader you can re-flash your Kernel to fix the issue. Not sure if this works with the stock Kernel or if you have to have a custom Kernel. Looking for feedback on this.
If you get stuck in the Bootloader reflash your current rom. Need feedback on this as well.
Link to Karadorde's updated package: http://www.freeza-inc.com/PC36IMG.zip
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With the text I've put in bold, looks like I'm hosed in that regard. So I'll just work on rebuilding it piecemeal.
Heh, first time I've tried to recover from a Nand, too. *sigh*

MadDogMaddux said:
looks like I'm hosed, but here's what I'm learning on Freeza's thread, where I DLed the PC36IMG.zip in the first place:
With the text I've put in bold, looks like I'm hosed in that regard. So I'll just work on rebuilding it piecemeal.
Heh, first time I've tried to recover from a Nand, too. *sigh*
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If you reflash using the RUU from stock roms .com will that reset your hboot back to the non-dev hboot?
Sent from my Evo using XDA App.

xNotta said:
If you reflash using the RUU from stock roms .com will that reset your hboot back to the non-dev hboot?
Sent from my Evo using XDA App.
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i do believe so, but someone correct me if im wrong, i do know when i unrooted a few weeks ago with the RUU i went to the newest hboot, but now that i'm rooted again im back to the ENG .76 version.

Running a RUU will put you at full stock, including radios and hboot.
If you are still stuck, try running the most current RUU and then rerooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800582

_MetalHead_ said:
Running a RUU will put you at full stock, including radios and hboot.
If you are still stuck, try running the most current RUU and then rerooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800582
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RUU's solve everything. No? haha

Igotsanevo4g said:
RUU's solve everything. No? haha
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They've sure helped me out of more than a couple binds

[Q] Cyanogen Mod 7, Lost root, Lost recovery, is it bricked?

Today I started using CyanogenMod 7 nightly build #27 on my HTC Incredible. Everything was going great and I loved gingerebread. I used it for several hours and decided to make it permanent. I unmounted my sd and formatted it on my PC, after making a copy of all its contents of course. I re-mounted the card and started getting low space warnings, so I figured I should just restart. When I restarted, Cyanogen went into an infinite boot loop. No worries, I had a nandroid backup on my PC from a few hours before Cyanogen. I flashed back to rooted 2.2 Sense stock rom. New issue, I can't access anything on the sd. It appears empty, and none of my widgets can load. So I figured why not just start all over re-root and all of that. I followed a downgrade guide for an out of the box experience,(shouldnt have). The downgrade seemed to be successful but now my phone only boots to the white screen with the skateboarding androids. I have Bootloader, Reboot, Reboot Bootloader, & Power Down. I dont think I have root and I dont have clockwork anymore. Maybe if I could get clockwork back I could get back to 2.2 at least and use rom manager to get back to cyanogen 2.3.
What can I do???
SOLVED
Goto:
http://www.incredibleforum.com/foru...kwork-hangs-htc-incredible-splash-screen.html

Ok, the easiest way to fix this:
1. Format your sd card to FAT32 on your computer
2. DL this recovery zip: http://fourty.net/~berzerker/bamod/PB31IMG-red.zip
3. Place that zip on the root of your sdcard, rename to PB31IMG.zip
4. With the phone off, insert sdcard
5. Hold "Volume Down" and power button until a white screen pops up
6. It should scan for files, and find the zip on the sdcard
7. Press "Volume Up" to confirm update, you should see a progress bar top right.
8. When finished, select "No" when asked to reboot
9. Select "Recovery" with volume keys, confirm with power button.
You should now boot into ClockworkMod recovery. Wipe all data/factory reset, then format your sdcard (optional, just make sure PB31IMG.zip gets erased). You can then mount usb mass storage from "mounts" menu, and copy over CM7.

Stuck at HTC Incredible screen
Hey,
Thanks so much for your quick reply! I was able to flash the recovery you linked me too which has made my day a lot better already, but it seems its not quite over yet.
I wiped all the data, wiped the cache, fomatted the sd, mounted the sd to my pc and copied over CM7.
The first try I also copied over the signed google apps package I received from rom manager, which was in my backup.
Installed them both and the phone never made it past the white HTC Incredible Screen.
So I wiped again and only installed CM7. Same issue.
I have a nandroid backup of 2.2 rooted but otherwise stock HTC Sense rom, but I can't find the recovery on the sd. I copied over my entire old clockwork folder, but its nowhere to be found. I realize the recovery img you gave me looks a lot like clockwork but is titled BAMod Recovery. Could that prevent me from seeing the clockwork folder?
Thanks so much for your help with this!

I'm going to try flashing the radio back to 2.xx
and then try CM6 stable and see what I can get

FU3L said:
I'm going to try flashing the radio back to 2.xx
and then try CM6 stable and see what I can get
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NO!!!
Flashing a radio is probably not the greatest idea.
Instead, do a search for clockworkmod recovery for the inc. The link I gave you was the one I had on hand, since I wrote all that at midnight lol.
Another thing I'd do is to re-download CM7 from the official teamdouche mirror site, along with g-apps, as I have a feeling your backups are somewhat corrupt.

Ok I won't reflash the radio. But right now the radio is 1.xx
Doesn't CM7 require a 2.xx radio? It rolled back during the stupid downgrade I did.
I've started downloading CM7 and g-apps again. And I will replace BAMod with clockwork. I can do that with the same steps as before right? It will just overwrite BAMod?

FU3L said:
1. Ok I won't reflash the radio. But right now the radio is 1.xx
Doesn't CM7 require a 2.xx radio? It rolled back during the stupid downgrade I did.
2. I've started downloading CM7 and g-apps again. And I will replace BAMod with clockwork. I can do that with the same steps as before right? It will just overwrite BAMod?
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1. In that case, yes, flash a 2.XX radio.using a PB31IMG. Froyo and gingerbread both require it.
2. Yep, just follow the steps, it'll just overwrite it.

I flashed the radio successfully, something worked!
However I'm having a hard time getting clockwork. I donwloaded clockwork 2.5.0.7 img
I then put it in a zip called PB31IMG
The phone picks up on it and flashes through some things pretty quick the last being parsing PB31IMG.zip....
Then it just jumps back to HBOOT. It doesn't ask if I want to update like the radio did.
I even tried to push it over fastboot from my pc, but everytime it says Failed remote not allowed.

Since I have the correct radio I am trying to flash CM6.1 to see what happens. BAMod is installing it now. If I can get in and get rom manager it can flash clockwork.
Thats my thinking anyway
It says it installed CM6.1 successfully, but still hangs at white HTC Incredible screen on startup

Wiped and installed CM7 successfully but still hung on white HTC Incredible screen.
Should I try using fastboot on my PC to erase the recovery partition? clockwork just gets rejected everytime, the only thing thats seemingly different about the phone now is having BAMod recovery install things instead of clockwork, which worked...
I miss my incredible

Flashed Amon Recovery, installed CM7 build #27. Still hanging on boot screen.

VICTORY!
Here's how I got it working again:
Head over to h**p://dougpiston.com/?page_id=108 site (due to me being an absolute noob to this forum, I can't post links, so just replace h**p with http) , and pick up the PB31IMG version of the original stock HTC image. Flash it, and everything should start up as fresh as the day you bought it. It seems it loses root and custom recovery though, so just reapply and all should be well.

[Q] Not fully rooted, no nandroid backup

To whom it may concern:
I have an HTC Evo, which I rooted in October. I havent had the time to do anything with it since then but the root wasnt properly successful when I first did it. Below are several problems that I have noticed:
1) Superuser doesnt show a list of any apps
2) The software which allows you to keep your phone on roam only doesnt work
3) In the hboot/bootloader screen, I dont have an option to create Nandroid backup.
4) Wi-fi tether doesnt work
Those are some of the things that I saw which makes me believe my phone wasnt properly rooted. I need help so I can be fully rooted, and can have all these features.
I rooted my phone using Amon-RA and Unrevoked 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809197
I posted that thread a while back, but basically the screen at that time said:
Supersonic EVT2-3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.97.0000
MICROP-041F
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16AB
RADIO-2.15.00.09.01
Aug 19 2010, 14:29:00
Now it says:
Supersonic EVT2-3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-2.10.0001
MICROP-041F
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16AB
RADIO-2.15.00.11.19
Oct 15, 2010, 12:07:00

Your best bet is probably to just run an RUU to unroot the phone. And then just use Unrevoked to root again...
Oh yeah, and just to be safe flash the S-ON zip from Unrevoked just incase something happens in between unrooting and rerooting.

Thank you for your reply. Would you be kind enough to put links to each of those things? So I guess I'll need step by step directions to
1) Run a RUU to unroot the phone.
2) Flash the S-ON zip
4) Latest directions for running unrevoked again

first off, you are fully rooted, thats what the s-off means. i would first try downloading an app that requires root, and run it. it should then say granting superuser permissions, for me the superuser screen gets populated every time i open a root app, if that doesnt work you can try downloading the latest version of superuser from the market, its free. also in bootloader you should see the recovery option, you will find the back up option in there, also you can try downloading an app called quickboot (free), with that app you can reboot your phone straight to recovery and you will find the backup option there. if non of that works you should try to reflash amon ra, maybe yours was corrupted, you can find a new amon ra file somewhere in here in xda. for wifi download an app called wireless tether that one works for me. if all else fails try a new rom most of them support what you want, a rom i would recommend for you is azrael x v4 is the most stable and almost the same as the stock one in your phone

wasvsdal said:
Thank you for your reply. Would you be kind enough to put links to each of those things? So I guess I'll need step by step directions to
1) Run a RUU to unroot the phone.
2) Flash the S-ON zip
4) Latest directions for running unrevoked again
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Unrevoked S-On(Flash before you use the RUU) This is done through recovery.
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/current/unrevoked-forever-son.zip
Get the Latest RUU from here:
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/RUU/
There are directions on how to use them at the top, just click the link.
And as far as Unrevoked there is directions on the site I believe.

emcp422 said:
first off, you are fully rooted, thats what the s-off means. i would first try downloading an app that requires root, and run it. it should then say granting superuser permissions, for me the superuser screen gets populated every time i open a root app, if that doesnt work you can try downloading the latest version of superuser from the market, its free. also in bootloader you should see the recovery option, you will find the back up option in there, also you can try downloading an app called quickboot (free), with that app you can reboot your phone straight to recovery and you will find the backup option there. if non of that works you should try to reflash amon ra, maybe yours was corrupted, you can find a new amon ra file somewhere in here in xda. for wifi download an app called wireless tether that one works for me. if all else fails try a new rom most of them support what you want, a rom i would recommend for you is azrael x v4 is the most stable and almost the same as the stock one in your phone
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He could be "fully rooted" if we just judged by the S-OFF.. BUT, if you read what he said about what it said then and now, he did accept a software update somewhere along the way, and I am guessing he didn't flash radios etc. to do so. If you are rooted and accept a Sprint update your phone will still show S-OFF unless you run the S-ON. I guess we are all a little confused, really need to know if he even has a recovery.

The biggest problem I have always had is that I couldnt create a nandroid backup. I just dont have the option in 'Recovery' on the main bootloader screen. Also, I just installed the Rom Manager and tried to flash ClockworkMod, and it said "an error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands".

wasvsdal said:
The biggest problem I have always had is that I couldnt create a nandroid backup. I just dont have the option in 'Recovery' on the main bootloader screen. Also, I just installed the Rom Manager and tried to flash ClockworkMod, and it said "an error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands".
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Well to do a nandroid backup you have to have a recovery. If you don't have that option I would bet you are probably not fully rooted. Try the "Root Checker" app in the market from Joey Krim before you follow what I posted earlier just to make sure that you are or are not rooted.

It says "root access is not properly configured or was not granted. Standard su binary location: /system/xbin/su: No such file or directory. SU binary not found in the system declared path"
I guess gotta root the phone again. I downloaded the files you linked (unrevoked forever son) but what do I do with them? Are there step by step instructions for that?
Thank you so much!!!!

Well, since you don't have a recovery you cant really flash the S-On so just go ahead and run the RUU. There are instructions on that on the link above the downloads.

Found them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141

What do you mean I dont have recovery? I do have that option when I load up the bootloader screen (volume+down)

wasvsdal said:
What do you mean I dont have recovery? I do have that option when I load up the bootloader screen (volume+down)
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I thought you said you didn't have it earlier.... Well if you do and you can get into recovery flash the S-On. And then use the link at the top of the page you downloaded the RUU from, there are instructions there on how to use the RUU. I wouldnt use the one you posted because its fairly outdated.

I dont have nandroid backup when I go into recovery. Im going to put that file on the root directory of my folder and see if there is anything i can do with it.

wasvsdal said:
I dont have nandroid backup when I go into recovery. Im going to put that file on the root directory of my folder and see if there is anything i can do with it.
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When you select recovery, from the bootloader screen, what happens? Do you successfully boot into a recovery? If so, which one? (amon ra or clockwork). If you don't successfully boot to recovery, and end up at a Screen with an exclamation point and a red triangle, that means that you don't have recovery installed. If you do have recovery (which I don't predict you will), the nandroid backup option would be under the 'backup/restore' section. If you don't have recovery installed, you need to install one. The easiest way for you to do that, is to download this file that I'm attatching. It's Amon Ra V2.3. Put that file on the main directory of your SD card, and then power your phone off. Boot to the bootloader, and wait a few seconds. It should prompt you to update. Select Volume up to say yes. It will then flash a recovery for you. After that, it will ask you to reboot. Select no. Get back to the main screen of your bootloader. Then select recovery. You should now successfully boot into recovery. From this point, I would do a complete wipe of your entire setup, and re flash a new and up to date ROM. That should get you back up and going.

I cant even install the RUU. Because supposedly the directions take me to Recovery and I cant do anything there.
Here is my recovery screen looks like:
First, I get an exclamation point inside a red triangle. Then when I push power+vol.up, it takes me to a screen "Android system recovery <3e>". I have the options to reboot system now, apply sdcard:update.zip, wipe data/factory reset, and wipe cache partition.
sdcard:update.zip gives me an error. Wipe data/factory reset just deletes my text messages and other ****.

k2buckley said:
If you don't have recovery installed, you need to install one. The easiest way for you to do that, is to download this file that I'm attatching. It's Amon Ra V2.3. Put that file on the main directory of your SD card, and then power your phone off. Boot to the bootloader, and wait a few seconds. It should prompt you to update. Select Volume up to say yes. It will then flash a recovery for you. After that, it will ask you to reboot. Select no. Get back to the main screen of your bootloader. Then select recovery. You should now successfully boot into recovery. From this point, I would do a complete wipe of your entire setup, and re flash a new and up to date ROM. That should get you back up and going.
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Following this...fingers crossed! What do you mean when you say a "complete wipe of your entire setup"? Does that mean re-root?

OMG YAY!!!! I literally have tears in my eyes at seeing this screen. I think the system recovery installed properly. It now says:
Android system recovery
- Reboot system now
-USB-MS toggle
-Backup/Restore
-Flash zip from sdcard
-Wipe
-Partition
-Mounts
-Other
-Power off
What do i do now?

wasvsdal said:
Following this...fingers crossed! What do you mean when you say a "complete wipe of your entire setup"? Does that mean re-root?
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Yes, follow what I said. I just read your previous post, and you don't have a custom recovery. The screen with the exclamation point means that you don't have a custom recovery, just stock recovery. By wipe of the entire system, I mean this. Once you get recovery installed, one of the options on the recovery screen will be 'wipe'. select that. individually wipe data/factory reset, cache, and dalvik cache. (that will wipe all your user data, apps, settings etc, so be prepared for that) Once you wipe all that, select to 'flash zip from sd card', and then select your rom, and flash it (you will need to download the rom of your choice, and place it on your sd card before you do this). Once you flash the new rom, and it completes, choose to reboot the system. You will then boot into the new rom. The first boot can take much longer than normal, so be patient.
EDIT: Also, I suggest flashing Calkulin's Format All.zip, before you flash the rom. You can still wipe, as I previously instructed, but right after that, flash Calkulin's Format all.zip. (this will gaurantee a complete wipe, for a clean install). Once that's flashed, then choose to flash the rom, and proceed as normal.
Also, if you choose to download a rom that instructs you to update your radios before flashing the rom, you can disregard that. Based off the information you posted from your bootloader, you have the most up to date baseband/radio, which means its 99% likely that you already have the most updated PRI, NV, and Wimax as well. (I'm assuming that you took an OTA update at some point, which would've upgraded you from your initial .97 bootloader, to the new 2.10 bootloader. That same update would've also updated all of your radios, so you're good with that)

I'm literally going to follow your setup haha so I want to install Myn's RLS 5 or VaelPak 3.2 or Evervolv, whichever you think is best. And then should I also install a kernel? Would you happen to have quick links to their instructions, otherwise I can just google them.

Thinking about rooting

i got a US cellular HTC desire with 2.2
im thinking about rooting my phone.
i heard that the unrevoked method is the easiest to use..
i read a few guides on that.. seems pretty straight forward cant mess that up.
after i root i would like to flash a custom rom..
what is a good app or program to use to back up my phone? what are some good roms? what is the best way to flash a ROM.
i read the guides here and they confuse me as i read many ways to do this. just want the easiest way to do it and get it done right.

Try ClockworkMod ROM Manager
ROM Manager is really easy to use and it can also backup your ROM ...it can also help you browse/download other ROMs.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Follow the link above...
I rooted for the first time the other day just following the instructions in the link.
The uploader has included video's and links on where to download everything you'll need.
Happy rooting...

zedmarcus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Follow the link above...
I rooted for the first time the other day just following the instructions in the link.
The uploader has included video's and links on where to download everything you'll need.
Happy rooting...
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i have hboot 1.06 so not sure what to do...
do i have to do steps 4 and 5?
my friend said this is how i should do it?http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/20/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-unrevoked-method/
i wanna do it but the right way and the easy so i dont brick my phone

With unrevoked you cannot root your phone yet. You have to use the alpharev x.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

xxdesire5044XXX said:
i have hboot 1.06 so not sure what to do...
do i have to do steps 4 and 5?
my friend said this is how i should do it?http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/20/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-unrevoked-method/
i wanna do it but the right way and the easy so i dont brick my phone
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I dunno about unrevoked working on that hboot but I know that revolutionary does. However that only gets you S-OFF, then you have to flash recovery (or you can have it flashed in the process), with which you may flash another ROM.
always remember to do a nandroid backup though!
Also, you having a CDMA desire makes things a bit tougher... for example you can't use the different Hboots from alpharev as they will brick your phone.. and don't quote me on this buy all ROMs may not work on it.

so i guess i wont root my phone... really dont wanna take a chance of bricking my phone. unless theres a very easy way to do it with a slim to none chance of error

so what can i do?

no it's absolutely safe for you to S-OFF.. so don't have to worry about that, just that there are less things available for the BravoC than the Bravo e.g. not all ROMs support BravoC (I know Cyanogenmod does)
Once you've S-OFF'd and flashed recovery (you are prompted whether you would like to flash recovery in the S-OFF process, select yes) you can just flash a custom ROM. Just always remember to do a nandroid backup before you flash anything!!!, and it's also good to do a full wipe before flashing, as you don't get crap from previous ROM (ofc. back it up before you wipe it lol)

MatDrOiD said:
With unrevoked you cannot root your phone yet. You have to use the alpharev x.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App
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It looks like he's on froyo so he should be able to root using unrevoked fine, no?
[EDIT] oops I just noticed his hboot version, my bad
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App

timmaaa said:
It looks like he's on froyo so he should be able to root using unrevoked fine, no?
[EDIT] oops I just noticed his hboot version, my bad
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
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thats his hboot version because he has a BravoC, which has a different hboot version.. that's why I'm unsure whether unrevoked would work (I mean yes, it works on BravoC but I don't know what version/ hboot etc. so It'd be safer to S-OFF, flash recovery, then flash ROM, instead of rooting with unrevoked and flashing recovery through that... get what I mean?)

is there a step by step guide for that?

download revolutionary, turn on USB debugging on your phone, plug it in via USB and run revolutionary (following the process on their sit, all it is, is entering the beta key which is given to you, after that everything is done for you)
During the process, you are prompted whether you wish to install clockworkmod recovery, choose yes (unless you would like to install a better recovery choose no, and I'll continue the guide for that )
If you chose yes to flash recovery while using revolutionary, then skip this step, and any of the lime coloured writing, if you chose no, then follow on and ignore any orange coloured writing.
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Download this recovery, and put it in c:\
Download the attached fastboot.zip, and unpack it into c:\
Open cmd and type:
Code:
cd\
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery c:\recovery-RA-desire-v2.0.0.img
fastboot oem gencheckpt
Note: the last command will boot you into recovery
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Whether you chose to flash clockworkmod recovery in the S-OFF'ing process, or you flashed the Ra Desire recovery in the process I told you about, either way, you should now have a functioning recovery.
>From here, you need to make a nandroid backup (from backup & restore) of your stock, unrooted ROM.
>Once you've got the backup if you're in clockworkmod go to mounts and storage, format boot, format system, format userdata, format cache, go to advanced settings and format dalvic cache.
>If you're in Ra Desire, go to wipe, and select wipe all user data.
>Once you've backed up, and wiped your phone, proceed to install a ROM of your choice from the SD-card. If you are using clockworkmod, choose the install zip from sdcard, flash zip from sd-card, then choose a ROM you downloaded.
>If you're in Ra Desire, go to flash zip from sd-card and install the ROM
Hope that helped you, and hope it's not too confusing for you with all the colour coding and stuff lol

sounds pretty easy.. how do i go bout flashing a rom and what is a good rom that will work with my phone?
on the backup goto back and restore and select back up?
how do i restore once i have a new rom on my phone?
nothing is deleted from my phone till i flash?

xxdesire5044XXX said:
sounds pretty easy.. how do i go bout flashing a rom and what is a good rom that will work with my phone?
on the backup goto back and restore and select back up?
how do i restore once i have a new rom on my phone?
nothing is deleted from my phone till i flash?
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yes, you just select backup and it backs itself up.
If you would like to restore, then you do a full wipe, go to backup and restore, select restore and choose which backup you would like to restore
no, nothing is deleted until you flash
to flash a ROM, like I said in the guide:
>Once you've backed up, and wiped your phone, proceed to install a ROM of your choice from the SD-card. If you are using clockworkmod, choose the install zip from sdcard, flash zip from sd-card, then choose a ROM you downloaded.
>If you're in Ra Desire, go to flash zip from sd-card and install the ROM
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when you select that option, it will take you into a menu with everything in your sd-card, you just have to find where you put the ROM you want, and select it with the trackpad, it will flash itself, then reboot.
This will work on your phone. I'm 110% Sure http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/htc-desire-cdma

so i back up my phone before i flash and after the flash do i restore to get everything back to how it was but with the new rom?

xxdesire5044XXX said:
so i back up my phone before i flash and after the flash do i restore to get everything back to how it was but with the new rom?
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nonnoo you don't restore after flashing.. When you flash a different ROM, you flash a completely different version of Android, that developers have changed/modded. You perform a backup in order to be able to go BACK to your old ROM, if you don't like your new one, or if something goes wrong with it. You only restore when you want to go back to your previous ROM.

bortak said:
nonnoo you don't restore after flashing.. When you flash a different ROM, you flash a completely different version of Android, that developers have changed/modded. You perform a backup in order to be able to go BACK to your old ROM, if you don't like your new one, or if something goes wrong with it. You only restore when you want to go back to your previous ROM.
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is there a way to copy all my messages and apps and stuff like that?
i know some roms dont come with the google apps how do i get those?
what is the best rom out of those three? there any pics of how they look?

very right I almost forgot about the google apps.
cyanogenmod doesn't come with them, download this and flash it in the same way you would the ROM (WITHOUT WIPING ANYTHING!!) http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps
You can usually find screenshots of most ROMs.. so it's just about doing some research.
and you can use an app called sms backup+ from the market.
I'd suggest backing up your contacts too! or moving them to the sim card

ok thank you sooo much for your help ill pm you if i have any questions

Major Major Issues With 2.1 - 2.3 (Rooted/Unrooted)

Hey guys,
So here's what happened and is happening:
1. I was running a custom ROM (Baked Snack 1.7) on Froyo (2.2). The phone was working fine but I wanted to try Gingerbread 2.3.3 out because I heard it had great battery life.
2. My phone would not update to 2.3.3 from Baked Snack. I thought it might have something to do with it being rooted. I used this method to unroot...and I think I only got through the first part:
http://www.thedroiddemos.com/2010/09/10/how-to-unroot-the-evo-in-2-steps/
I installed the S-On tool like he said to. Then I moved the "new updated version" of PC36IMG (I had the old version on my card already). He said something about the "S-Off" appearing on his phone but not the viewer's...well, mine says S-Off.
So fast forwarding, I got Sprint to push me the update for 2.3.3. It downloaded it, but then a voicemail error came up saying I had 2 voicemails. Then when I called voicemail, it said I had no messages. Sprint said a Sprint store would have to physically go into the phone to erase the error.
I also got a second update message that said there were minor enhancements to Gingerbread. I tried downloading them but the installation failed. Sprint told me to ignore the update, that there had been issues with Gingerbread (and the update) and that they were working on getting these resolved.
Somehow I managed to clear the phone and get back to 2.1. Here's what my system says when I look at the Phone Information:
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
When I boot into the main bootloader/Recovery menu (Phone Off + Power Button + Volume Down), here's what it says:
Supersonic EVT2-2 ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.76.2000 (PC3610000)
If I click down to Recovery from this menu and press "Power" to enter it, NOW I get a picture of an EVO with a Red Triangle/Exclamation Point. This means I have to take my battery out and restart the phone.
Also, the OTA SimpleRoot procedure doesn't seem to work on the phone either. When I originally set it back, the procedure worked. Now it just goes through the motions on the computer but nothing happens with the phone (rebooting, skating Androids, etc.)
All I want to do is basically put it back 2.2 and re-run Baked Snack 1.7 which was giving me NO issues.
If someone could help me with this issue, I would be very grateful.

Well you have a simple fix. The error you got with the triangle and red ! is you booting into recovery, but no recovery is loaded [stock recovery]. Head over to the development section, and download the recovery of your choice. Personally I recommend in order: twrp [team win recovery project] , amon ra 2.3, cwm 3.0+. After you have your recovery installed, boot back into recovery and flash your baked snack rom. Also, don't manually take an OTA of 2.3.3 as it can't be rooted. if you want to try a gingerbread rom, simply download CM7, evervolv, deck's, ect rom and flash it like any other rom. Just backup your previous rom before flashing so you can go back.

teh roxxorz said:
Well you have a simple fix. The error you got with the triangle and red ! is you booting into recovery, but no recovery is loaded [stock recovery]. Head over to the development section, and download the recovery of your choice. Personally I recommend in order: twrp [team win recovery project] , amon ra 2.3, cwm 3.0+. After you have your recovery installed, boot back into recovery and flash your baked snack rom. Also, don't manually take an OTA of 2.3.3 as it can't be rooted. if you want to try a gingerbread rom, simply download CM7, evervolv, deck's, ect rom and flash it like any other rom. Just backup your previous rom before flashing so you can go back.
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You like TWRP better??
I haven't tried it yet

HipKat said:
You like TWRP better??
I haven't tried it yet
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Basically amon ra, but better. it has some additional options, such as the option to automatically reboot after a successful flash [good for doing a single flash, but if you're doing multiple, checked it at the last flash.] You have the option to compress backups to save space, though it takes a little bit longer, and they have some built in skins you can change at will. And MOAR.

I tried rooting using this method:
http://www.androidcentral.com/evo-4g-root-instructions
I put the PC36IMG on the root of my SD card and let the phone update in bootloader. It seemed to work fine, updated, rebooted the phone, etc.
Then I downloaded ROM Manager so I could let Clockwork install and then install Amon Ra....when ROM Manager tried installing Clockwork, it gave me the following message: "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!"
It also will not let me flash an alternate recovery. I have the file "recovery-RA-supersonic-v2.3.img" on the root of my SD card right now.
What does this mean? Does this mean I'm not rooted? Or some other issue? I remember eons ago when I tried using this program I got the same message but I don't remember how I got around it. (obviously I did though)
Is there a different way I should install it?

nbakid2000 said:
I tried rooting using this method:
http://www.androidcentral.com/evo-4g-root-instructions
I put the PC36IMG on the root of my SD card and let the phone update in bootloader. It seemed to work fine, updated, rebooted the phone, etc.
Then I downloaded ROM Manager so I could let Clockwork install and then install Amon Ra....when ROM Manager tried installing Clockwork, it gave me the following message: "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!"
It also will not let me flash an alternate recovery. I have the file "recovery-RA-supersonic-v2.3.img" on the root of my SD card right now.
What does this mean? Does this mean I'm not rooted? Or some other issue? I remember eons ago when I tried using this program I got the same message but I don't remember how I got around it. (obviously I did though)
Is there a different way I should install it?
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That's a bit outdated; use unrevoked. I've already done the linking for you.
1. http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install <- Download and install the modified hboot drivers, follow the instructions.
2. On your phone, enable usb debugging from the applications > development, in settings
3. Connect your phone to your pc via usb cable, leave it on the home screen, no apps should be running; restart the phone just to be sure.
4. http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install <- download and run unrevoked
It'll take 3-5 minutes and reboot about 2 times, don't touch in the process, it'll say done at the end. Also, this will only work if on 2.2 still. if on 2.3.3, you're outta luck.

Okay, forget Rom Manager, forget "rooting" your phone - at least according to the normal use of the word.
Delete any PC36IMG files you may have on your SD card, then download this one of Amon Ra 2.3: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
Don't rename it, don't extract it... just put it on the root of your SD card. Then download whatever rom you want to use. Put it on the root of your SD card or in a folder that you'll remember. Amon Ra (and possibly other recoveries) can flash zips that are inside of folders. Just be sure that you know where it is because you'll need to navigate to it in recovery.
Then boot into the bootloader and let it flash the way you've done with other PC36IMG files. When it asks you to reboot just decline and then select recovery. I would make a backup just in case, then flash your rom.
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Thank you guys, I will try these methods when I get back from work tonight. I really really appreciate it, I was about having a meltdown without my phone (the way I want it).
I'll report back either way. (and yes, I'm still on 2.1-update1)

nbakid2000 said:
Thank you guys, I will try these methods when I get back from work tonight. I really really appreciate it, I was about having a meltdown without my phone (the way I want it).
I'll report back either way. (and yes, I'm still on 2.1-update1)
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Well between plainjane and myself, you'll be rooted before dinner time!

teh roxxorz said:
Well between plainjane and myself, you'll be rooted before dinner time!
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OK, I forgot to mention this earlier...last time I was stuck in the Boot Sequence where it kept looping the Sprint and 4G logo....now that I'm rooted using plainjane's method (thank you) I'm stuck with the same thing.
I flashed the recovery, then flashed the Baked Snack ROM....now I'm in the Baked Snack bootload section....and it just keeps looping.
Is this an issue with my system that can be resolved?

EDIT: So weird. I went back into Recovery and wiped everything and set the phone back to original condition...and voila, Baked Snack comes up as the ROM! So now it appears it's for the most part back to normal and back to where I wanted it....thank you guys again.
Now can anyone point me in the direction of the latest radios, etc. that I can download and flash?
And why would it be giving me those looping problems, and then go back to normal when I cleared/wiped everything?
I mean, I'm happy this happened but I don't want the same things happening if I decide to flash another ROM at some point.