[Q] 2 Questions - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
2 quick questions. thanks in advance for any help
1) let's say i wanted to upgrade to a bigger sd card for more storage, could i just copy over everything to the new sd card and reboot the phone and all is well and good, even with android 2.2's built in apps2sd? or would any of my apps that are installed to sd get messed up?
2) i haven't yet rooted my g2 but i'm going to soon. i rooted my g1 in the past. i've been reading some of the guides and whatnot to get ready, but one thing i was concerned about is being able to un-root completely to stock in case i ever need to do a warranty thing. do i actually have to back up anything, or can i just download the stock image like alot of tutorials seem to say? will it all be exactly the same after going thru the process of unrooting?
thanks!
Dave

I have the same question with the SD card.
As far as the second question goes I don't think you have to worry about it to much. Most t mobile staff are not anal about it. Just don't have it booting up to cm lol
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best way to root?

after some research unrevoked3 seems to be the easiest way to root my HTC Desire.
but there are no instructions on how to use it... i know you just download the software and install the drivers etc... but i mean what state does it leave my phone in?
will it have all of its text messages saved, settings saved, etc...
will my sd card be wiped completely should i back it up? should i buy a cheap one to root it with etc...
i know 2.3 is coming out soon for HTC Desire but my phones branded with vodafone. should i just debrand it and wait for an offical update?
ive been wanting to root my phone for a while but ive got no idea which roms are best or anything.
how do i back up my sd card? how do i save my texts to the sd card for back up?
any help will be appreciated thanks.
Hi welcome to the site. There is a wealth of information in these forums and sometimes it is hard to single out exactly what you are looking for. Read this to start and then ask some specific questions. Seek much advice before rooting yourself.
i was there 3 months ago and now i flash and customise with reckless abandonment!
Unrevoked3 is definitely the easiest way. You can find quick guide for this method in Cyanogenmod wiki 'Full Update Guide' (google it)...
hi , just follow these vids , it makes it really easy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
thanks guys, ive been wanting to root for ages as well but i fininally decided to do it recently
right after trying to use unrevoke3 it came up with a write error. basically saying it cant write the new file.
after more search it is because there isnt enough room. after i deleted a few apps i had 70mb free phone memory and 8gb free sd card memory.
ran unrevoke3 again, same error.... i dont know what i could be doing wrong =\
alpha-dog said:
right after trying to use unrevoke3 it came up with a write error. basically saying it cant write the new file.
after more search it is because there isnt enough room. after i deleted a few apps i had 70mb free phone memory and 8gb free sd card memory.
ran unrevoke3 again, same error.... i dont know what i could be doing wrong =\
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Have you enabled USB debugging ?
yeah, followed all the instructions, even installed the Hboot drivers etc...
just keeps coming up with the same error =\
gonna try it on ubuntu again.
alpha-dog said:
yeah, followed all the instructions, even installed the Hboot drivers etc...
just keeps coming up with the same error =\
gonna try it on ubuntu again.
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I gave up on Windows a while ago, Ubuntu is better, I think.
still no dice....
do i need to unbrand/debrand the phone first?
alpha-dog said:
still no dice....
do i need to unbrand/debrand the phone first?
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No. You might do yourself a favor by creating a goldcard and keeping it safe.

[Q] Several questions about rooting

First off, yep, I used the search but nothing did quite match the question I have...
Now, one of the main reasons I want to root my phone for, is, that I don't have (even nearly) enough space for the apps I want to use.
1. I saw a ROM floating around here which is enabling the complete installation of applications to the sd card, is this possible with every ROM or just with this specific one?
And:
2 .On the current stock ROM there already is an App2SD function, but I haven't got enough space anyway, does this improve with root access?
The second reason I want to root my Desire is, that I'd like to have 2.3 instead of 2.2, because of some features that were added.
One, actually minor but anyway, more reason for rooting for me is, that I can have a different theme (I'm getting bored of the stock one...)
3. Are this and the first one enough reasons to root your phone? Is it worth it?
Then, some more general questions about rooting:
4. I saw a few tutorials out there, which are "noob proved", is it really that simple? (I'm not complete idiot in terms of technical things, but I haven't got much expirience with android...)
5. I also saw that it is possible to "brick" your device, does this just happen when you do something completly wrong, or is it just random? How "high" is the chance of bricking your device?
6. After you rooted your device, can you "switch" ROMs quite easily or is it a kind of harder process each time?
7. Im not soo familiar with android, as I mentioned before, so, does android write the SMS and so on to the SIM card or are they saved internal? Are they getting lost while rooting?
And now over to some more personal questions:
8. What application or advantage did you root your phone for?
9. Which root apps are really making it worth rooting?
I'd be really thankfull if you could help me with this, and I appreciate each answer!
Best regards
P.S.: Sorry for my kinda bad english, but I'm not quite often using it....
1. You are talking about a feature named a2sd. If a rom supports it, it will be listed in its feature list. To use it, you have to follow the given instructions for partitioning sd card for a2sd in the roms corresponding thread.
2. That's not a2sd, it's the "froyo-style app2sd". The difference is, with the froyo one you can only move the application to sd card if the developer programmed the app for it. With a2sd, all apps you install will be automatically moved to a special partition on your sd card, namely sd-ext. You don't have and must not do anything.
You can already download gingerbread from htcdev.com:
http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
3. Rooting gives you many advantages. Most important things are you can backup your apps/settings and your rom, and you can flash custom roms.
4. Of course they are. That's why they named like this.
5. If you follow all guides carefully and don't do something silly, imho the chance the phone bricks is not higher than an untouched stops working.
6. It's very easy. You do it from recovery, where you can backup your previous rom.
7. Yep, but you have to it with an extra program like sms backup & restore:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&feature=search_result
8. Flash custom roms, backup and restore apps/rom -> better and so awesome desire experience.
9. Most important one is imho titanium backup:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
i recently rooted and then unrooted and then rooted and s-off my desire trust me reading the instructions makes its sound more difficult than it is. just read carefully dont take shortcuts and ull be ok.
i rooted as i ran low on space also i like the fact i can delete system apps as i dnt use them.
you can use themes.
there are roms with data2sd or data2whatever, better than app2sd.
just read thru ask some questions of people.they will help u out. boobkmark the pages u want to use i always forget and then can never find the advice again!!!
once ur rooted used unrevoked for that. you can swap roms like there ur socks!! i and many others on here im sure swapped roms hourly let alone daily , u need to see which one fits u the best.
this is just what i no from my very limited experience others on here are much more in the know!
good luck
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
If you follow it exactly you should not brick your phone
Switching roms is easy as long as you read the requirements for each rom, which are usually found within the first two posts on the rom thread
If you use cyanogenmod rom you can use the s2e app from market to move apps to your sd card, imho this is a very easy way to implement app2sd, I'm using this, I have heaps of apps installed and still have plenty of space left
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
Read some noob guides you need more knowledge
Thank you very much for the answers!
I downloaded all of the files needed and backed up SMS and contact information and tomorrow I'll root my phone (got more time and patience....).
Just one more quick question: I bought my phone unbranded (on Amazon), so I don't need to make a "gold card", am I right?
Nascor said:
Thank you very much for the answers!
I downloaded all of the files needed and backed up SMS and contact information and tomorrow I'll root my phone (got more time and patience....).
Just one more quick question: I bought my phone unbranded (on Amazon), so I don't need to make a "gold card", am I right?
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You are right. But if I were you, I would made one even so, just in case.

A link or an explanation please - ROOT question again!

OK I'm really sorry but I've been searching for days (weeks actually) so forgive me if there is a thread that I can't find - and/or link to it for me if you wouldn't mind. (I get frustrated by people asking the same question over and over, as I'm sure you do too, I really am stuck as I am completely new to android and am still a little stuck in iOS mindset - i.e. can't seem to work thing out for myself lol)
This relates specifically to the SGNII hence it's post here and not in general android forum (where I've also searched)
I'm loosing patience waiting for a 32GB so I'm "considering" getting a 16 and 64GB card and rooting. I know I will have more than 16GB of apps (added up all the once I want/need) and really need a backup facility so......
When you root the SGNII - only to gain root access for modifying the external SD to take apps and, possibly, to use titanium backup:
1) Do you loose any stock functions/apps other than warranty, OTA updates, and automatic app updates?
2) Do ALL apps run ok from the external SD (eg top of the line games, Polaris office etc) - is there any slow down?
3) If, at a later point, I flash a later stock ROM (what would normally be an OTA update) release will it still find all the apps and their data on the SD card?
4) If an app is updated in the store is it easy to update it onto the SD when you know the update is available
I'm sorry if I'm asking the same question that others have asked but I've been searching for days. Many thanks for links or direct answers to these questions. I'd really love a 32GB or above and I'm giving it until the upcoming US release to see if this is a trigger for global release but there are already some pretty tasty deals in the 16GB format on contract here in the UK
Many thanks in advance for your help
Ben
EmergencyMedic said:
OK I'm really sorry but I've been searching for days (weeks actually) so forgive me if there is a thread that I can't find - and/or link to it for me if you wouldn't mind. (I get frustrated by people asking the same question over and over, as I'm sure you do too, I really am stuck as I am completely new to android and am still a little stuck in iOS mindset - i.e. can't seem to work thing out for myself lol)
This relates specifically to the SGNII hence it's post here and not in general android forum (where I've also searched)
I'm loosing patience waiting for a 32GB so I'm "considering" getting a 16 and 64GB card and rooting. I know I will have more than 16GB of apps (added up all the once I want/need) and really need a backup facility so......
When you root the SGNII - only to gain root access for modifying the external SD to take apps and, possibly, to use titanium backup:
1) Do you loose any stock functions/apps other than warranty, OTA updates, and automatic app updates?
2) Do ALL apps run ok from the external SD (eg top of the line games, Polaris office etc) - is there any slow down?
3) If, at a later point, I flash a later stock ROM (what would normally be an OTA update) release will it still find all the apps and their data on the SD card?
4) If an app is updated in the store is it easy to update it onto the SD when you know the update is available
I'm sorry if I'm asking the same question that others have asked but I've been searching for days. Many thanks for links or direct answers to these questions. I'd really love a 32GB or above and I'm giving it until the upcoming US release to see if this is a trigger for global release but there are already some pretty tasty deals in the 16GB format on contract here in the UK
Many thanks in advance for your help
Ben
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1) u will never lose anything even the warranty & ota by using triangle away
2)using special directory binding tools with a class 10 micro sd HC u will got no problem at all running from Ext SD
3)resetting the counter then wipe then flash stock rom ur device will return brand new official
4)yes.
↖(^▽^)↗ Sent From Rego Galaxy Note!! ↖(^▽^)↗
Thank you so much for the reply, sorry if it was a simple question, pushing me more toward the 16gb now (I'd be saving a lot of money on my contract if I upgrade!). - I actually went into the store today to buy one, fate must have stopped me because they only had white in stock (I want grey) lol.
So if I root and use triangle away to reset counter I can still get OTA updates? - that's cool (I'm sure ill be flashing new roms before long anyway - used to love messing with the OS on my XDA exec back in the day - so this isn't too important, but nice to know)
Thank you for confirming apps will have no significant problems running form the SD (I know that things like widget apps need to be in the on-board memory)
I think I've understood correctly from reading around that SD mounted apps will not "automatically" update, again that doesn't bother me - I'm sure there are apps out there that can "watch" for new releases - time to do another search.
I'm not to scared about getting back from root should I have a problem now (I.e. factory reset) - thank you
One more question, if you don't mind:
I've been reading about directory bind quiet a lot over the past few weeks (trying to answer the above questions you answered in 2mins!) - is there a good app that you would recommend for directory binding? There's several on the store and, TBH, the reviews don't really help me make a decision. I did catch somewhere that there was a method to trick the phone into thinking the external SD was the Internal SD and vice versa - what's your views on that?
I think it's funny that rooting invalidates your warranty when even the samsung App Store has program's that require root!
Once again, thanks for the reply

Easy safe root for note 2

Looking for a good and safe or at least as safe as you can get root method. I'm running the latest android 4.1.2 and I've been reading some of the root methods mess with your camera, bluetooth and the call quality and I really don't want to mess those up my main reason for wanting to root is to get rid of samsung & at&t's bloatware any info or help is greatly appreciated.
there are endless posts and threads about this subject; you really need to search for your answers before asking a simplistic question like this..
Thanks for your help I appreciate it
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Calnshel said:
Looking for a good and safe or at least as safe as you can get root method. I'm running the latest android 4.1.2 and I've been reading some of the root methods mess with your camera, bluetooth and the call quality and I really don't want to mess those up my main reason for wanting to root is to get rid of samsung & at&t's bloatware any info or help is greatly appreciated.
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I used the Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit that can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052779
And the video that can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BweCW5ck8
Worked like a charm for me.
wase4711 said:
there are endless posts and threads about this subject; you really need to search for your answers before asking a simplistic question like this..
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Not just this....but READ!!
The best thing to do is to research ALL or at least a few different root methods.
Hell check out how it's done on other phones just to see how basically the same method is applied to different phones.
The toolbox is great but if you dont understand whats actaully going on
(When you figure it out youll be like wth?? Thats all it doing?)
Read, read and re-read
Should be the mantra of xda.
Im not just talkin instructions on how to "one click" either...
"But why freakboy13?"
Because when you run into issues you'll have a better understanding of whats going on, and maybe...just maybe...
Fix it on your own!!:thumbup:
Good luck and post back!!
sent from my T.A.R.T.I.S
(Time And Relative Tarts In Space)
Thanks guys for the info I did wind up using the toolkit but somehow during the process my Sd card got encrypted I believe anyways so I'mttrying to figure out how to get that fixed
Calnshel said:
Thanks guys for the info I did wind up using the toolkit but somehow during the process my Sd card got encrypted I believe anyways so I'mttrying to figure out how to get that fixed
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Did ya read through the thread first?
(especially about the part of removing kies before using? )
Which card got encypted?
You have more than one.
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(Time And Relative Tarts In Space)
No I didn't I have a bad habit of jumping into things head first I only have 1 card it a 64GB SanDisk so should I try rerooting it with Kies removed
Well on the toolkit thread it does say to remove kies before using.
So you are stock rooted correct?
And your only issue is an encrypted ext sd card
( by ninjas im guessing? ).
Are you sure its encrypted or is it corrupted?
Is your pc telling you this via password request or other dialog?
I know ive read the gs3 have issues with some 64gb cards but not gn2.
Idk
Did you format the card on the phone before you used it?
Edit: you have taken the card out and tried to read it via other means like dif phone, pc, card reader, etc. , right?
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(Time And Relative Tarts In Space)
Yes I was stock rooted but I unrooted this morning. I'm not totally sure if my card is corrupted or just encrypted my phone does read the card and I can retrieve stuff off of it I haven't taken the card out of my phone and put it in the card reader itself but I hooked my phone to my pc and it reads the card that way I have seen on another thread were a person's card was encrypted and they were able to decrypt it but for some reason I'm not able to do that I'll check out that S3 thread and see if I can figure something out I really appreciate you offering me help my last phone I rooted was an HTC inspire so I'm not totally stupid just a little bit ha ha
my galaxy note 2 is rooted... is it safe to upgrade firmware via kies.. kies detected that i have a 4.1.1 firmware and i should upgrade it to 4.1.2 firmware.. should i click update?
You will lose root if the update is taken. ..
Root and updates don't play well together. ..
agenthack said:
my galaxy note 2 is rooted... is it safe to upgrade firmware via kies.. kies detected that i have a 4.1.1 firmware and i should upgrade it to 4.1.2 firmware.. should i click update?
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If you are on a stock rom and root is all you have and if you have a STOCK recovery you are fine.
As poster above said you will loose root.
Make sure you have a stock recovery.
How do i know if I have stock recovery?
Well .... if you didnt install cwm or twrp then you should be gtg.
Easy to check though.
Just boot into recovery!
Just make sure kies properly recognizes your phone and you should be golden.
Let us know how it goes!
:thumbup:
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(Time And Relative Tarts In Space)
thanks guys... already upgraded my note 2 to 4.1.2... and its running smoothly...didnt install anything so im guessing i still have the stock rom...
after upgrading my root access is gone so i have to root it again...all is good...! just one problem..i still dont have the mobile data toggle on the notification area...i thought this upgrade would fix it..oh well..atleast i now have multi window...
:good:
I used ios for 5years. Never used an android device. Then I read 1 tutorial and bam. Rooted no issues ever. Its really hard to brick your phone.
Sent from my SGH-I317

Hey big time noob here with some questions

I've rooted once or twice back in the day and enjoyed it. I got an unlocked HTC one m8 and I love everything about it. I don't want to root really but now I have this KitKat problem where you can't move things to your sdcard. I like to download torrents and stuff and then move them to my 64gb SD card. Is there a way to do this without rooting? If yes, does it void the warranty or make it "not stock"?. If no, is there a way to root but keep the phone exactly the way it is but be able to move things to my SD card? Any help is appreciated.
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