Hi everyone.
While I consider myself as a veteran in installing and modifying ROMs, I've come by a slightly weird and disturbing problem.
Twice within a week, I've experienced that my phone randomly reboots and then I'm back to stock launcher and all apps in /system/app are inaccesable. I can see them in Root Explorer and through adb, but they are not launchable.
The only solution left is to do a full wipe and reinstall.
The first time I experienced this was while using an MIUI-Au ROM. I thought it might be ROM related, so I wiped completely and installed Oxygen 2.0.1. Then the same thing happened again while I was playing with ADWLauncher Ex, and I did notice some small app-hangs. Not force closes, but I had to tilt the phone before the menu responded.
I've now wiped again, completely. I've even formatted the sdcard outside the phone. ADW is responding fine, but I'm worried this might happen again.
I'm testing if it can be app-related. While on the two installs where it happened, I had installed Swype *and* SlideIT at the same time (although using SlideIT as default). Now I'm using the stock Gingerbread keyboard in Oxygen to see if it might be Swype, SlideIT or the combination of the two installed at the same time that caused this.
But have anyone experienced this besides me?
Is there a solution other than a complete wipe - sort of "reactivating" the apps?
Thanks in advance
Have you tried a non-A2SD+ ROM like CM7 RC2? or ROMs that don't use A2SD at all?
m4a1rifle said:
Have you tried a non-A2SD+ ROM like CM7 RC2? or ROMs that don't use A2SD at all?
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I can't say I have, but I'll add it to the list of things to test if it happens again. Thanks for your suggestion.
debichu said:
I can't say I have, but I'll add it to the list of things to test if it happens again. Thanks for your suggestion.
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Definitely try it, because I have the same problem as you last time using A2SD+ ROM (LeeDroid's), I scan + fix my sdcard then wipe and re-install the same ROM, the problem seems to go away at first, then after awhile it came back... from there i switch to non A2SD version of LeeDroid, and even never move apps to SD (aka Apps2SD), the problem did not re-appear anymore...
Well, then the next question is: Why does A2SD+ affect this? Is there a solution 'cause I like the ability to move apps to /sdcard. Or to put it in another way: can I do anything about it?
It's not something I've experienced before. So A2SD+ just stops working? Meh, I don't know Let's see. I haven't encountered any issues so far, and I'm still without SlideIT/Swype.
I think it's due to the way it's accessing the SD-card, some people will not have issue running A2SD, but if your SD-card is faulty(or prone to corrupt), then apps will keep FC like that, fixing it using chkdsk just temporary workaround, it will start failing again... IMHO, A2SD is sensitive to the quality of the SD-card...
but, there is a possibility your case might not be due to A2SD at all
just a suggestion/previous experience...
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I don't post here often, but I am on IRC all the time for those of you that do know me. I have been having serious issues with the AOSP Roms. Cyanogen, Ruby, and Incredible Does all either freeze on me or reboot sooner or later. I've went so far as to install nothing else except the Rom and it still freezes or reboots. I've done this test with all three, I even dialed down the processor while on them and still NO DICE. I'm not an Android expert, but I do have a bachelor's in IT so I feel I'm pretty tech savvy. I was told on IRC that others are having similar problems with all the AOSP roms. I'm trying to get a consensus of who else is experiencing this and some more suggestions on how to fix this.
I appreciate all the help
~Thanks , AnthonyKash
Yeah this is very odd. A couple of us in ##incredibleroms have been working with AnthonyKash to figure this out. So far we have had no luck at all. No Sense UI ROMs do this to him, it seems like it's only vanilla ROMs. Very strange............
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I don't post here often, but I am on IRC all the time for those of you that do know me. I have been having serious issues with the AOSP Roms. Cyanogen, Ruby, and Incredible Does all either freeze on me or reboot sooner or later. I've went so far as to install nothing else except the Rom and it still freezes or reboots. I've done this test with all three, I even dialed down the processor while on them and still NO DICE. I'm not an Android expert, but I do have a bachelor's in IT so I feel I'm pretty tech savvy. I was told on IRC that others are having similar problems with all the AOSP roms. I'm trying to get a consensus of who else is experiencing this and some more suggestions on how to fix this.
I appreciate all the help
~Thanks , AnthonyKash
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I know you posted this months ago but was wondering if you figured out what is causing this? I too can't use ANY aosp Rome because they all end up being unusable after a couple of hours. It's almost like the CPU slows down to a dramatic crawl. Only way to fix is to do a battery pull to reset. I have cleared cache, dalvik, uninstalled setcpu, all with no luck. Anyone have any insights?
Check integrity and space of SD card - maybe even remove, copy contents to PC, reformat to FAT32, copy a few nandroids back to SD and reinstall in device. Also make sure there is ample space on SD.
Absent that, have you tried a different SD card? AOSP ROMs interface w/ the SD considerably more than Sense ROMs.
Also, check radio version - recommend at least 2.15.xx
HBOOT version may come into play as well.
+1 to the above post. Seems like some sense files are bring left somewhere.
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smtom said:
Check integrity and space of SD card - maybe even remove, copy contents to PC, reformat to FAT32, copy a few nandroids back to SD and reinstall in device. Also make sure there is ample space on SD.
Absent that, have you tried a different SD card? AOSP ROMs interface w/ the SD considerably more than Sense ROMs.
Also, check radio version - recommend at least 2.15.xx
HBOOT version may come into play as well.
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I don't think its my SD Card, I just got a new one a month ago and the same thing happened with my old SD Card. I have 4 gigs left empty of a 16 gig sd card. Would it make a difference if I installed from EMMC using RA recovery?
Hboot 0.92
Radio 2.15.00.09.01
Am on the latest versions of Hboot and radio right?
One thing I do find very weird is that even after doing full wipes of user data, cache and dalvik, when I boot up on CM7 my wifi settings still work. I would have expected I needed to reenter all of those settings. Or does this stuff get saved to the SD or internal storage...normal? If it is not, then why are data wipes in Recovery not cleanning up my files?
I've not had this problem.
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greatchief1 said:
I don't think its my SD Card, I just got a new one a month ago and the same thing happened with my old SD Card. I have 4 gigs left empty of a 16 gig sd card. Would it make a difference if I installed from EMMC using RA recovery?
Hboot 0.92
Radio 2.15.00.09.01
Am on the latest versions of Hboot and radio right?
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Yep, those are the latest versions.
AOSP ROMs offer automatic reinstall of apps and data to Google when flashing, if that option is checked when flashed. That's where/how/why settings and/or apps still appear as before.
So, if Sense ROMs are not wonky, maybe it is an app you have installed on the AOSP ROM?
Long diagnostic road, (well understood by us IT folk ) but perhaps uninstall apps in reverse install date order of the app, reboot as you go thru, see which one may have been a culprit.
Absent that, perhaps factory reset in recovery, install an AOSP rom w/out choosing to reinstall apps.
Maybe try another different AOSP ROM?
I know the SD interacts quite a bit more with the SD compared to Sense ROMs - again, maybe copy SD card contents to PC, reformat SD to FAT32 either on the PC or in phone, maybe both - then d/l an AOSP ROM on a clean SD, see if it's still wonky.
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Yep, those are the latest versions.
AOSP ROMs offer automatic reinstall of apps and data to Google when flashing, if that option is checked when flashed. That's where/how/why settings and/or apps still appear as before.
So, if Sense ROMs are wonky, maybe it is an app you have installed?
Long diagnostic road, (well understood by us IT folk ) but perhaps uninstall apps in reverse install date order of the app, reboot as you go thru, see which one may have been a culprit.
Absent that, perhaps factory reset in recovery, install an AOSP rom w/out choosing to reinstall apps.
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Sense ROMS work great, its AOSP roms that are giving my phone fits lol. Well last night I tried something new.
-I changed my radio from 2.15.00.09.01 to 2.15.00.07.28 Official Froyo radio.
-Installed CM7 #14 from the EMMC versus SD CARD.
-"Hit Wipe All" in recovery about 10 times in a row before I flashed CM7
I hope changing the radio to "official" is what does it. Anyone running AOSP roms using the leaked radio 2.15.00.09.01 ?
Radio?
Yes, do let us know whether the xx.09 radio was the (a) culprit.
I run the older 2.15.xx.07.28 one, never had issues w/ AOSP ROMs.
I had an issue with this using cm7 nightlies, and I WOULD post it there but the new, ~totally awesome~ rule they are implementing (can't post in the dev forum w/ less than 10 posts) prevents me from doing that (Which means I have to spam the other sub forums?).
ANYWAYS, I got a bigger sd card from a friend, and I went to erase it under the sd card settings. Then i got a low space notification, saying I had 9 mb free of 7 Terbytes. Rebooting the phone caused it to go into boot loop. If your situation sounds like mine then do this
Boot into CWM, and from there you can mount the SD card and format it, as well as copy any backups.
I did not have any luck with restoring the phone to a previous AOSP rom, even after wiping the cache/dalvik. Maybe there's another one that could be wiped that I didn't do. Anyways, I installed a Sense based rom, and from there I was able to install Cyanogen mod.
Good luck.
smtom said:
Yes, do let us know whether the xx.09 radio was the (a) culprit.
I run the older 2.15.xx.07.28 one, never had issues w/ AOSP ROMs.
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Well it turns out that the radio version I was using was not the issue because the phone became unresponsive this morning when I tried to wake it up. To be specific, it does allow me to swipe to unlock but painfully in slow motion.
So that rules at the radio...which leaves me with its either the ROM/Kernel or some rogue app.
So this morning I wiped all user data in recovery and reinstalled CM7#14 but this time I did not log on to my google account during setup and have not installed any apps. So far no issues, but the true test is trying to wake the phone up tomorrow in the morning. If there are no issues, then that solves it (ITS A FREAKING APP).
If it is a rogue app that has been haunting me these past couple of weeks then who has the best way to identify which one is the offender? Why would a rogue app only affect me using AOSP roms and not Sense?
My suspicions are with..(Locale, Beautiful Widgets, ADW EX, Swype, CardioTrainer, Handcent) but I guess process of elimination is what its going to take.
Thanks to all for the help and recommendations.
cougar618 said:
I had an issue with this using cm7 nightlies, and I WOULD post it there but the new, ~totally awesome~ rule they are implementing (can't post in the dev forum w/ less than 10 posts) prevents me from doing that (Which means I have to spam the other sub forums?).
ANYWAYS, I got a bigger sd card from a friend, and I went to erase it under the sd card settings. Then i got a low space notification, saying I had 9 mb free of 7 Terbytes. Rebooting the phone caused it to go into boot loop. If your situation sounds like mine then do this
Boot into CWM, and from there you can mount the SD card and format it, as well as copy any backups.
I did not have any luck with restoring the phone to a previous AOSP rom, even after wiping the cache/dalvik. Maybe there's another one that could be wiped that I didn't do. Anyways, I installed a Sense based rom, and from there I was able to install Cyanogen mod.
Good luck.
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Please tell me u meant 7gb not 7tb
If you have a SD card that huge I beg you to tell me where to get it
I've heard of a 2tb SD but they haven't released it
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just wanted to give an udate on my issue...as I suspected it was an app that was causing my phone to crash using aosp roms. The offending app is Locale, wierd that a it never gave me problems using Sense based roms.
greatchief1 said:
just wanted to give an udate on my issue...as I suspected it was an app that was causing my phone to crash using aosp roms. The offending app is Locale, wierd that a it never gave me problems using Sense based roms.
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Good stuff. Glad to see it all finally worked out.
"I don't know what specific directory or partition is messed up but every single time my phone reboot I think I lose my user data or something. All of my apps force close and the tutorial about how to use my phone keyboard starts as if I just flashed a new Rom. This keeps happening no matter which Rom I use. I don't know why this is happening. I've tried 2 different SD cards and it still happens. Please Help!"
I didn't exactly figure out what was wrong but I found a solution. There was something wrong with my cache partitions.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/6433-solved-messed-up-partitions-on-internal-storage/
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I don't know what specific directory or partition is messed up but every single time my phone reboot I think I lose my user data or something. All of my apps force close and the tutorial about how to use my phone keyboard starts as if I just flashed a new Rom. This keeps happening no matter which Rom I use. I don't know why this is happening. I've tried 2 different SD cards and it still happens. Please Help!
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What ROM(s) are you using? From the Terminal Emulator, have you tried running fix_permissions? I run Redemption, and when I install a new version of it that's the first thing I do, then reboot.
RMarkwald said:
What ROM(s) are you using? From the Terminal Emulator, have you tried running fix_permissions? I run Redemption, and when I install a new version of it that's the first thing I do, then reboot.
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I'm running redemptive 1.9 and I've tried multiple other roms and still have the same problem. Fix permissions didn't work either. I get an error with the packages.XML file. This problem happens no matter what rom I try.
Hey guys. I had the same $#it happen to me last week! I was sitting on the couch and cleaning my rooted Droid with stock Rom... and when I held the power button to shutdown phone I got a long vibrate instead of the usual short one! This got my attention, and sure enough, when I finally took out the battery and reported, I got the UIDs are inconsistent.... error along with the I'm feeling lucky button. Force Closes, galore! I fixed it by doing a hard reset and basically returning my phone to factory setting. Still rooted, but lost all my contacts,favorites, texts, apps... basically everything that wasn't on the SD card...:-/ still trying to restore all my settings... it was perfectly set to how I wanted it.
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Hi everyone!
first, happy new year!
I have a problem with my desire...it freezes in a way that the pulling the battery out is the only thing that helps...it doesn't respond to any button, the screen os off and I can't wake it up
it's rooted with unrevoked, clockwork recovery
tried different roms, the best for me is baadnwz dhd port...
been on that for a while and didn't have the freezing problem, then I flashed the miui..
went back to baadnwz and it started to freeze...a few times a day
then I reflashed it, uninstalled the font changer and that helped...for two days(thought that was the problem) but tonight(~36h from the clean install of the rom) it froze again...
so, I don't think it's the rom, obviously it is not the font changer...
why is this happening, has anyone encounter this before, is there a solution?
please advise, what should I do?
thank you
For what it's worth...
If you can get it back to stock ROM, then do so. Then take it back to the place you bought it and demand a brand new replacement. I would even go so far as to note/print a few pages of some the forums as evidence of the widespread problem.
If my (and many other people's experiences) on here are anything to go by, then your problem will only get worse...and let's face it, whoever has heard of a electronic non-software related problem getting better on it's own? Having read just about every available post on the subject I've concluded that no amount of flashing/reflashing/fiddling is going to fix it.
Sorry to be negative about it, but them is just the facts as I see them.
hmm...so it's like that huh?
what do you mean "if" I can go to the stock rom?
can't I flash the original rom, or ruu or something?(I don't know, never tried something like that)
but then again, I'm not sure that it isn't a software problem...I'm just lurking around to see if anyone has encountered this before and solved it....
if all else fails, I'll flash a clean rom without restorin my apps and see how it goes from there...
just my experience
trikpa said:
hmm...so it's like that huh?
what do you mean "if" I can go to the stock rom?
can't I flash the original rom, or ruu or something?(I don't know, never tried something like that)
but then again, I'm not sure that it isn't a software problem...I'm just lurking around to see if anyone has encountered this before and solved it....
if all else fails, I'll flash a clean rom without restorin my apps and see how it goes from there...
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In all honesty, you may be able to reflash back to stock ROM. It may well depend on what firmware you have on your phone and whether your phone is branded (mine is T-Mobile UK). I know when I originally got mine and rooted it, it was hboot 0.83. It went wrong (external speaker stopped working). I was able to flash it back to stock ROM and I sent it back to HTC. When I finally got it back after 8 weeks (long story involving HTC incompetence and bad luck/incompetence with UPS), it was on hboot 0.93.0001. I rooted it with Unrevoked and installed LeeDroid 2.2f ROM. Shortly afterwards, it started to freeze/reboot. However, everything I've read so far leads me to believe LeeDroid wasn't the cause of the freeze/reboot fault. The problem is far too widespread (just Google 'HTC Desire reboot freeze problem') for it to be caused by a particular custom ROM.
Anyway, the upshot for me is that no matter what I've tried, I haven't been able to get it back to stock ROM and therefore, can't send it back for repair/replacement.
I sincerely hope you have better luck than me.
well, I'll see how it goes..
thank you for your answers
is there a way that I can make a log or something to see whether an application is doing this or something else?
well, I think I solved my problem, and for further reference here's a post that I did in another thread where this was disccused..
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just to let you guys know, I don't have any more freezes
some say it's because of the sense rom, some it's the dhd rom, others told me it's the radio or the ril files....
tried all of that plus few more things and nothing...
well, it turned out to be my backup(or an app in it..)
I always backed my apps and data with my backup pro, very nice app that restores everything....but the last rom flash I did, I didn't restored my apps&data and started fresh installs...and no freezing
I don't know what exactly caused problems, but one more thing that may be responsible...I flashed "font changer" and changed system fonts on my phone...and then backed my apps...maybe that's he deal...dunno...
anyways, I'm back with a killer phone with the best rom out there - baadnewz's
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hope that will help someone
cheers
Do you still have any issues with the phone freezing sometimes when charging from A/C?
Mine doesn't freeze as much as it used to since updating the RIL files but being left charging seems to upset it
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Do you still have any issues with the phone freezing sometimes when charging from A/C?
Mine doesn't freeze as much as it used to since updating the RIL files but being left charging seems to upset it
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no freezes whatsoever
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no freezes whatsoever
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OK, that sounds good. I only usually recover a few items using Titanium backup but next time that I flash a ROM update. I'll start it all from scratch and hope to get the same result as you.
I don't know, maybe it was a specific app but I don't have the time nor the will to test each one of them
I've got the same problem. Now that I read your post it makes sense.
Restored my apps trough titanium backup and 5 hours later my phones freezes.
Can u make list off apps that you have ?
mine (those that I restored)
vandaag 24
teamviewer
circel widget battery
dropspace
handcent
sdwatch
adfree
advanced task killer
fotmob
gridcalendar
applanet
astro
barcode scanner
cardio trainer
compass 2.1
gouden gids
gowalla
shazam
flitz said:
I've got the same problem. Now that I read your post it makes sense.
Restored my apps trough titanium backup and 5 hours later my phones freezes.
Can u make list off apps that you have ?
mine (those that I restored)
vandaag 24
teamviewer
circel widget battery
dropspace
handcent
sdwatch
adfree
advanced task killer
fotmob
gridcalendar
applanet
astro
barcode scanner
cardio trainer
compass 2.1
gouden gids
gowalla
shazam
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well, it's been a while since then and I don't know what apps I used back then...but I can tell you what apps I used that you use
from your list I used
handcent
adfree
applanet
astro
barcode scanner
and maybe the compass
hope it helps, but my advice, do a fresh install
tnx, Ill keep ya posted
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tnx, Ill keep ya posted
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any news?
my phone started to freeze again
and I didn't restore backup, did a full fresh install...
don't know what to do
Yes, I've solved my problem by buying a new SD card.
This time from Kinsgstond instead of Sandisk.
Hope it solves your problem too.
My phone freeze after charfing while its off. I noticed that it freezes when it says "preparing SD card". This happened twice so far
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flitz said:
Yes, I've solved my problem by buying a new SD card.
This time from Kinsgstond instead of Sandisk.
Hope it solves your problem too.
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well, I did buy a new 8GB card, but it never occured to me that it could be the problem....I think it didn't freeze right after I switched cards...
for now I flashed a newer version of the rom I'm using and will see how it goes...if not, I'll switch cards again
thanks for your answer
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My phone freeze after charfing while its off. I noticed that it freezes when it says "preparing SD card". This happened twice so far
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well, sd card could be the problem in your case too, try another one...and post here with results
I'm curious
Well so far I have reflash the phone after a factory reset + wipe with no app restored via backup. It is performing ok so far. Last freeze was 2 days ago. I will wear down the battery to get a chance to charge it up this afternoon. I will see if it freezes again.
My phone was running great for about a week with this rom but today it has shut itself off twice. I am also using the ics theme. Any ideas as to why its doing this all of the sudden? Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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My phone was running great for about a week with this rom but today it has shut itself off twice. I am also using the ics theme. Any ideas as to why its doing this all of the sudden? Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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First off are you undervolting? Secondly if you have an issue like this it can be the cause of a few things. Did you restore data with Titanium Backup?
Also, even though it may not be specific to this rom if you do a search on here or google for random reboots you may find solutions that others have had. I understand the rom may not be the same but quite honestly this is a semi-common issue with custom roms and this question has been asked quite often.
Good luck and when in doubt wipe/format all and just load the rom and run it for a few hours without any apps
Did you put that theme over a stock rom?
odexed?
I put it over the blazer rom which it was made for. I cleared delvic cache and cache partition and it hasnt rebooted since and that was hours ago. Is that something you should do every once in a while to keep it running good?
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Also no I am not undervolting or overclocking or anything like that. All system settings are default.
Well I thought everything was ok with the phone but it is restarting again! I am getting really frustrated I love this phone but I dont know how much more of its bull**** I can take! I am getting ready to throw the ****ing thing out the window! How would I know if I am undervoltin or anything like that? I did not mess with any system settings when I installed the rom.
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First off are you undervolting? Secondly if you have an issue like this it can be the cause of a few things. Did you restore data with Titanium Backup?
Also, even though it may not be specific to this rom if you do a search on here or google for random reboots you may find solutions that others have had. I understand the rom may not be the same but quite honestly this is a semi-common issue with custom roms and this question has been asked quite often.
Good luck and when in doubt wipe/format all and just load the rom and run it for a few hours without any apps
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I did not do a full factory wipe because in the directions he said to just flash the blazer rom 2.0 then a modified calkulins wipe then flash the 3.2 He said no data wipe was required.
Hey I was just wondering could this be caused by a faulty sd card? I noticed yesterday that when I went to access my sd card it was unavailable. Could the sd card bieng faulty cause a system crash that would lead to a reboot? I do have some apps installed on the sd card.
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Hey I was just wondering could this be caused by a faulty sd card? I noticed yesterday that when I went to access my sd card it was unavailable. Could the sd card bieng faulty cause a system crash that would lead to a reboot? I do have some apps installed on the sd card.
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If you really want to fix your issue you have to troubleshoot to death. Do it all, format sdcard, do a clean install and anything else you can think of. Thats the best way to troubleshoot. Just nandroid your setup now and use TB to save data and go for it....
Don't worry bout asking us since a response may not come fast enough so just jump right in and get your phone up to speed. Or your can odin a stock EL26/13/30 rom..
I'm curious if anyone has ever had the same problems as me with aosp... (sorry if this is a thread already, I searched and couldn't find an answer.)
Any attempt to run ICS, cm7, or miui gives me the error message "process system is not responding" hitting force close does nothing bad, but the constant message is definitely annoying.
Going back to sense fixed the problem but isn't my ideal fix since I've been running all aosp since I got this phone.
Any ideas?
I would recomend partitioning your sd card... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993 ,then install darktremors Apps2SD.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938&highlight=Dark+Tremors+A2SD i will almost guarentee it will fix your problem also,try going to recovery/advanced/fix permissions.
is this right off the bat? like fresh boot or are you installing stuff then getting this? maybe some more details that you can think of would spark some ideas on how to solve your issue cuz man that sucks ... i <3 aosp i dont know how long i could really go without it
It's always right out of the gate. Never a wipe problem since I make sure to wipe everything possible, even tried a different battery and sd card. I use darktremors all the time now, but I can't remember if that was the case while using cm7's native app to sd. I'll give it a try.