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now the wp7 is jailbrocken we are able to install apps but where can we get some ...and how do we install apps ?
well i've found out that you can deploy apps from visual basic express for windows phone directly to your phone when it's unlocked.
so if some of the app developers can upload their apps as a visual basic project you can deploy it to your phone.
Yesterday i've downloaded some apps from the apps hub of MS and deployed it to my phone.
Just for testing purpose but they work
Now it's time for me to learn to create programs, but i don't know what to create
i''ve made the standard apps from visual basic express, but they aren't very usefull...
The chevronwp7 tool has 2 purposes and not the third...
1. For developers to test their apps without needing to pay the developer fee, this is more beneficial for those regions that don't yet have a way to pay for a developer account, but want to start working on it anyways
2. For apps that may use native code which won't get into market place, and in this case they can provide the xap which you can deploy.
In these two and all other cases, no developer in their right mind would hand out their intellectual property (their source code) unless they were doing it for others to learn from. Especially with a paid application, why would they give the source code out when it is in the market place?
The creators of chevronwp7 have already stated that this will not help in loading paid apps from market place either.
Hope this clears things up for you.
I have no intention to "steal" apps from their developers.
I just want to create my own programs, and learn from others.
There are dozens of free apps in the marketplace, and there were plenty of developers in the time of wm 6.5 which were programming for fun, and release their apps here on XDA so others can benefit from.
I think when time goes by these developers will release their apps here, because of the fee MS charges for developers to release the apps on marketplace.
So if your app is free, why not release the xap? No hassle with marketplace and native codes, and people who aren't interested in the code won't even think to look at the code.
I hope I made my point clear, it's not to install paid apps for free, but to help the developers who don't have acces to marketplace.
yea, which was it's original intent which is good. though given that chevronWP7 has now been taken down by it's creators we have to wait and see as to what they're doing with MS. MS has started negotiations with them to try and encourage the homebrew. lets see what happens of it all.
mtem1985 said:
well i've found out that you can deploy apps from visual basic express for windows phone directly to your phone when it's unlocked.
so if some of the app developers can upload their apps as a visual basic project you can deploy it to your phone.
Yesterday i've downloaded some apps from the apps hub of MS and deployed it to my phone.
Just for testing purpose but they work
Now it's time for me to learn to create programs, but i don't know what to create
i''ve made the standard apps from visual basic express, but they aren't very usefull...
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I'm sure developers will release commercial apps in source form Even *most* free app developers won't do it, because of the way others like to copy code and create redundant apps. That has never been a popular trend on any mobile OS, and I don't see it becoming such.
@ OP: The unlock that came out for WP7 is not a jailbreak. It does nothing but allow you to use you device to test and deploy applications, instead of the emulator.
Has anyone used the no limit version of chevron over an phone that was allready activated w/ developer account? The reason I'm asking is will this give us the best of both worlds? Since the phone will be legally unlocked according to MS, but unlocked with unlimited # of sideloading apps.
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Has anyone used the no limit version of chevron over an phone that was allready activated w/ developer account? The reason I'm asking is will this give us the best of both worlds? Since the phone will be legally unlocked according to MS, but unlocked with unlimited # of sideloading apps.
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If you are a normal dev, paid the $99, you can deploy 10 apps. I write a lot of apps that will never see the light of day, and I really don't have an issue with the 10 limit...
I haven't exchanged any apps with others, but if I do, I may have an issue then.
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Has anyone used the no limit version of chevron over an phone that was allready activated w/ developer account? The reason I'm asking is will this give us the best of both worlds? Since the phone will be legally unlocked according to MS, but unlocked with unlimited # of sideloading apps.
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Yeah, I'm having trouble with the limit too. I'm afraid to run Chevron though because I don't want to mess up my legit dev unlock, and the source for Chevron is obfuscated and not worth digging through to figure out if it'd work.
I guess I should toss out, that waiting for a response I used chevron over my unlock. It had to relock, then took installed the cert and unlocked using chevron. I am thinking it will last because the unock is probally verifiying that we are in the MS dev database, not checking certs etc. I think that was an unforseen oversight. I will report any issues btw I am a student so I only get 3 apps. My 3 news readers took up the most part and my game I am deving wouldn't go on until I removed the limit.
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I guess I should toss out, that waiting for a response I used chevron over my unlock. It had to relock, then took installed the cert and unlocked using chevron. I am thinking it will last because the unock is probally verifiying that we are in the MS dev database, not checking certs etc. I think that was an unforseen oversight. I will report any issues btw I am a student so I only get 3 apps. My 3 news readers took up the most part and my game I am deving wouldn't go on until I removed the limit.
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Could you give me a walkthrough on what you did? I seem to be having trouble with chevron
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Could you give me a walkthrough on what you did? I seem to be having trouble with chevron
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You want to go to the topic which describes how to edit the registry. It is the easy one or you can find the Chevron which has side apps limit removed. I doubt that it still available. Both methods will allow unlimited side apps. Also, on the topic of how to edit registry, it also allow you to modify different stuff like preventing re-lock Chevron.
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You can find the Chevron which has side apps limit removed. I doubt that it still available.
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Is there a way of creating and deploying an wp7 app that would be only available to our company agents.
As far As I understand this you can only deploy any app via the Market Place - this is useless for any internal business application.
Do I need to wait for better mobile device management or is there away around this ?
Any pointers appreciated guys.
Two ways to do it, the way I see it...
1. Add the program to marketplace, but require an registration number to be inputted in the program for it to work.
2. Side-load it
tiwas said:
Two ways to do it, the way I see it...
1. Add the program to marketplace, but require an registration number to be inputted in the program for it to work.
2. Side-load it
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2 won't work, as it could be redistributed.
1 might, but we all know how well registration models work (cracks)
this might be a job for phone-home drm.
tiwas said:
Two ways to do it, the way I see it...
1. Add the program to marketplace, but require an registration number to be inputted in the program for it to work.
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This would probably be the best, especially considering that your agents probably need to login anyway.
But I think that you won't pass certification if they can't test the app.
I don't know what your company does, but maybe you could release an app that is many targeted at your customers and everyone could use. This app could then have a hidden setting to enable special functions after a agent has logged in.
Microsoft are planning on supporting this in the future, their current suggestion, IIRC, is to use some sort of login though.
I'm not used to this so it may have already been posted, but I'd like to know how to install apps onto my HTC Arrive. I just switched from Android and all you have to do is drag and drop the apps.
Thanks for your patience.
you mean homebrew apps? or the apps on the marketplace?
if it's apps on the marketplace, there should be a tile on your home screen that says "Marketplace"
if it's homebrew apps, you have to register as a developer on msdn.microsoft.com, (dev license is $100, but they are giving away lots of dev accounts)
Lol no, I meant like where we don't have to pay...like you jailbreak on iphone and android you just download the apk.
You simply can't. XAP's have to be deployed via developer tools. For this your device has to be developer unlocked. WP7 is a heavily sandboxed system so it doesn't allow direct execution of XAP's via a fileexplorer etc. Maybe with a fully unlocked custom ROM.
google "chevronwp7", (cant post links cos i'm new here), they do dev unlock for you, but they have a limited number of devices they could unlock per month
or, if you are student you can get it unlocked for free.
OR, you could look for ROMs on this site
range152 said:
google "chevronwp7", (cant post links cos i'm new here), they do dev unlock for you, but they have a limited number of devices they could unlock per month
or, if you are student you can get it unlocked for free.
OR, you could look for ROMs on this site
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Chevron stopped to be sold from about january... So the way is to install a ROM from this site...
this would probably be a good start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562561
Wow...looks like I'm going back to Android 5/7
We can't tell you how to do it as it's against the forum rules to endorse/discuss piracy. It is possible. Go search the darkest corners of the internet
well, there is a lot of basic thing you should to know....
if you want to "adding"(we call it deploy) app to your phone ,you should unlock you phone as first
there is 3 way to unlock your device but you can only use develop unlock on HTC Arrive at this moment(as far as i know)
it;s complicated ,some how like to jailbreak your iphone,and jailbreak is much more easier
you can use search to learn it ...
then ,you should install wp7.1 sdk(you might have already installed it when you unlocking you phone)
and you should have a deploy tool to deploy apps on your phone....
and ZUNE is required as well
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We can't tell you how to do it as it's against the forum rules to endorse/discuss piracy. It is possible. Go search the darkest corners of the internet
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sorry i dont know we have the provisions on discussing unlock...
You can discuss unlocking, of course. But not where/how to download cracked apps.
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Hi. Apologies for the noob question. Is it possible to get banking apps, PayPal etc to work on lineage ? I've installed magisk but don't know how to configure it, even if it will do what I need. Is there a guide somewhere? Thanks.
aneng64 said:
Hi. Apologies for the noob question. Is it possible to get banking apps, PayPal etc to work on lineage ? I've installed magisk but don't know how to configure it, even if it will do what I need. Is there a guide somewhere? Thanks.
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First of all, you will harm the security of your transactions if you wanted to use banking apps on a rooted phone.
Secondly, if such a banking app will work on a phone with root hidden by magisk, I would advise you to give up such an app or bank for the reason I mentioned in the first sentence.
ze7zez said:
First of all, you will harm the security of your transactions if you wanted to use banking apps on a rooted phone.
Secondly, if such a banking app will work on a phone with root hidden by magisk, I would advise you to give up such an app or bank for the reason I mentioned in the first sentence.
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Why.... precisely? Beyond the generic rubber-stamp warning that rooted/custom ROM devices lack the security of stock builds, what data do you have that proves that running banking apps on phones with root/custom ROMs is likely to result in theft of my money?
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Why.... precisely? Beyond the generic rubber-stamp warning that rooted/custom ROM devices lack the security of stock builds, what data do you have that proves that running banking apps on phones with root/custom ROMs is likely to result in theft of my money?
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Generally speaking, this is how money can be stolen at the very least, but also more, since identity verification can also be done with bank accounts.
Do not combine "rooted" with "custom", as there is no close relationship.
Oh... I see. Thank you. I have no need for root to be honest. I just need to be running Lineage OS. Is that safe to use unrooted?
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Oh... I see. Thank you. I have no need for root to be honest. I just need to be running Lineage OS. Is that safe to use unrooted?
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Root does not increase the level of safety. It's good for you to use the original LineageOS, if it exists for your phone, and not use TWRP. It's likely that the bank's app won't object.
Just started to using LineageOS official last release from there website ((lineage-19.1-20230302-nightly-pioneer-signed)) . i have there mindtegapps for google integration. the problem is my carrier money transfer app crashs and doesn't starts. before i changed to LineageOS. this app was working on my phone original rom. is there any thing i can do to try to fix it? like crash logs or something i can try? i tried Google Carrier Services and Android System WebView. but nothing changed. it still crashs. is there away i can know which is the last supprted OS for that app? i mean they could just have not updated there app to newest google framework. idk for sure i am just guessing.
the app name " Orange Cash "
PC is rooted by default. People use banking sites and programs on PCs.
Phone will require same steps to prevent money steal.
Generally it is not the rooted phone by itself is source of trouble but user actions.
If user installs shady autocraticker from google play and give permissions to it thief would not need root to steal money.
To send a link by email or messanger and ask to enters credit card information thief does not need root permissions.
Criminals don't expect phone to be rooted. They pray on inattentive users.
It is often possible to have control of your own device with root and use banking.
Some banks allow to use browser instead of app.
Bank usually would call on the phone to accept login and transactions for additional security.
Decision depends on how much money user has on banking account, and how careful he is.
veseihaty said:
PC is rooted by default. (...)
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That's why there are no PC banking applications/programs.
Using banking applications increases the security of transactions, which using only a web browser does not.
Thanks to apps, banks have the ability to continuously improve security on phones that have stopped getting security patches from the phone manufacturer. The use of push technology makes banking apps a cheap token.
The banks' action on this issue is beneficial to customers.
ze7zez said:
Generally speaking, this is how money can be stolen at the very least, but also more, since identity verification can also be done with bank accounts.
Do not combine "rooted" with "custom", as there is no close relationship.
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What are you talking about? Rooting means *the user* has control over the device, vs the manufacturer. Not giving the user root privileges is all about the manufacturing retaining control over what you do with the device, and being able to push its bloatware on you, and nothing to do with security.
HOW exactly does giving the user root access damage security in any way?
I'm gonna go ahead and say that not only having root access does NOT threaten security, but the other way around, it improves it, as I can remove all the unsafe apps the manufacturer bundled with my phone.
You are wrong, you were asked to back up your claims, and you did not actually do so.
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What are you talking about? Rooting means *the user* has control over the device, vs the manufacturer. Not giving the user root privileges is all about the manufacturing retaining control over what you do with the device, and being able to push its bloatware on you, and nothing to do with security.
HOW exactly does giving the user root access damage security in any way?
I'm gonna go ahead and say that not only having root access does NOT threaten security, but the other way around, it improves it, as I can remove all the unsafe apps the manufacturer bundled with my phone.
You are wrong, you were asked to back up your claims, and you did not actually do so.
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Read the "Payment Services Directive 2", analyze, understand and acknowledge.
The XDA forum is for discussion, not for answering every question asked. That's what google is for, for example.
Yes, just use magisk delta.
ze7zez said:
Read the "Payment Services Directive 2", analyze, understand and acknowledge.
The XDA forum is for discussion, not for answering every question asked. That's what google is for, for example.
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Why should I care about a European regulation, considering I'm not in Europe, and my bank is not European?
Regardless, said spec doesn't really give ANY justification either as to *why* a rooted phone would actually be unsafer in any way.
You didn't say "Because a stupid spec says so", you said "because of security concerns", of which there aren't any.