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[Q] Going from stock Incredible to unrevoked forever to prepare for official Froyo

I'm not in a rush to hack my Droid Incredible right now, but want to keep the possibility open for after the official 2.2 comes out, so it seems the recommendation is to install Unrevoked Forever since we don't know if the Dinc will still be rootable after the update (I actually believe it will be eventually, but no guarantees). I am NOT planning to install a custom ROM right now, my entire goal is to have S-OFF and then go back to stock enough to catch the official OTA when it comes.
I've been reading the instructions (and the warnings) and just wanted to make sure I've got the idea before I do anything. Can anyone point out any flaws in the steps below:
1. I downloaded the HTC_Incredible_Downgrade.zip from xda forums which I believe has the stock recovery PB31IMG.zip (146,445,757 bytes).
2. Install unrevoked3 to root the phone.
3. Download unrevoked-forever.zip. Install it with the custom recovery that unrevoked3 installed.
4. reboot and see the S-OFF setting
5. Then use the custom recovery to install the stock PB31IMG.zip from step 1.
So before I do this I want to make sure:
* Will I then be back to stock in every way except that S-OFF is set?
* Will any of this procedure wipe my phone clean so I lose installed apps and data?
* Am I then ready to catch the stock OTA install of Froyo when it comes out?
I suspect a bunch of people are thinking of doing this right now.
Thanks in advance
Steve

Welp
Remember that step 2 is far more involved; you need the special HBOOT drivers, and no HTC Sync.
I believe the 3 stars are:
* Yes
* No (since Step 5 is just flashing the original recovery)
* Yes

Which step do you expect to wipe my phone? I wouldn't have expected the rooting part to wipe it since I'm not talking about installing a custom ROM. I was more worried about the recovery to stock to wipe it.

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Whoops ... misread your step 5. No, you should be fine.

you dont really need to flash the entire stock rom just the recovery it can be found at http://adrynalyne.us/ here is a direct link http://adrynalyne.us/files/recovery/stock/PB31IMG.zip
Edit: in your step 5 you will need to use hboot to install a stock recovery
ps the stock recovery only is like 3.3mb the one you have is 140mb and will wipe your phone.

Uhm, you can't flash one part of the PB31IMG.zip, so if it's 146MB, it's most likely a system image with wiping data and cache, so yes, it will wipe your phone. You can find a stock recovery only PB31IMG.zip somewhere on the forums here. Search around.

I'm currently rooted with unrevoked3 and unrevoked forever. I have yet to mess with my radio or flash any roms. So to be eligible to get the over the air update I need to just flash that stock recovery zip?
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Aaron Rodgers Beard said:
I'm currently rooted with unrevoked3 and unrevoked forever. I have yet to mess with my radio or flash any roms. So to be eligible to get the over the air update I need to just flash that stock recovery zip?
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Yes.
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oops. lol. delete.

OK, unrevoked3 and forever both installed now (everything went VERY smoothly), haven't done the recovery to stock yet.
So I notice that I've got the Superuser Permissions app installed now. Do I need to unroot before I can do an OTA update to Froyo, or can I keep root and still do the OTA? If for some reason I wanted to give up root at some point what would be the minimum I need to do?
Do I lose root when I reinstall the stock recovery to allow the OTA?
Steve

Are there any docs or usage info about the Superuser Permissions app that unrevoked3 installs? I'm not sure what to do with it.
Steve

What I don't get is the part about regaining superuser access with an update.zip after receiving the OTA. Where can I find said file? I've searched and googled and can't find it.

silverxbv2 said:
What I don't get is the part about regaining superuser access with an update.zip after receiving the OTA. Where can I find said file? I've searched and googled and can't find it.
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Attached for you.

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I have rooted, s-off-ed, removed some apps, and got the stock recovery from adrenalyne and reflashed that back. now when i try to go to recovery, i come to just a phone symbol with a red exclamation mark and the only way to reboot is to pop the battery out. is that what stock recovery looks like? or have i boofed the process at some point?

k.electron said:
I have rooted, s-off-ed, removed some apps, and got the stock recovery from adrenalyne and reflashed that back. now when i try to go to recovery, i come to just a phone symbol with a red exclamation mark and the only way to reboot is to pop the battery out. is that what stock recovery looks like? or have i boofed the process at some point?
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Yep, that's stock recovery. You need to load clockwork recovery, I think that's how you fix it. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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patches152 said:
Yep, that's stock recovery. You need to load clockwork recovery, I think that's how you fix it. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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ok thanks. well i want to leave it at stock until after the OTA comes out. then i will put any custom recovery if i feel the need to.
also, titanium downloaded busybox, what is busybox and how does it affect my ability to apply an OTA?

k.electron said:
I have rooted, s-off-ed, removed some apps, and got the stock recovery from adrenalyne and reflashed that back. now when i try to go to recovery, i come to just a phone symbol with a red exclamation mark and the only way to reboot is to pop the battery out. is that what stock recovery looks like? or have i boofed the process at some point?
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At the stock recovery you press vol up and power and you get a menu you where its possible to reboot, install undate.zip...ect...
From what I hear you only need the stock recovery and the stock build to get and install the official ota.
If your rooted that should be fine the ota will likely remove root but who cares with s-off!
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Ok so lets see if I did this correctly. Im rooted with unrevoked forever. So I just Downloaded the pb31mg file and did a reboot into recovery via rom manager. I then applied an (update.zip) from the sd card which was the pb31mg.zip. I then reboooted. Is there anything I can check to make sure Im stock enough to recieve the ota?

Aaron Rodgers Beard said:
Ok so lets see if I did this correctly. Im rooted with unrevoked forever. So I just Downloaded the pb31mg file and did a reboot into recovery via rom manager. I then applied an (update.zip) from the sd card which was the pb31mg.zip. I then reboooted. Is there anything I can check to make sure Im stock enough to recieve the ota?
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A PB31IMG.Zip is installed with hboot not recovery.
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[Q] How the heck did I Unroot?

OK, so I'm a bit of a n00b here, and I need just a quick hand.
I'd flashed Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo a few days ago and was attempting to use metamorph to tweak the battery icon. Ran a Nand backup beforehand. Something went wrong with the metamorph and I was stuck in a bootloop afterwards.
So I hit power and held down on the volume rocker, hoping to get into my Nand.
Instead, it wouldn't let me select anything, went through its own update/recovery process, and now that it's done, I'm back to stock (complete with sprint bloatware) and totally unrooted. I DLed Rom Manager off the market and tried to get into Amon_Ra recovery, but it keeps telling me I don't have permission (thus I deduce I've lost root access.)
Is there anyway I can flash my Nand at this point, or do I need to go back through the rooting process?
Thanks for your help.

MadDogMaddux said:
OK, so I'm a bit of a n00b here, and I need just a quick hand.
I'd flashed Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo a few days ago and was attempting to use metamorph to tweak the battery icon. Ran a Nand backup beforehand. Something went wrong with the metamorph and I was stuck in a bootloop afterwards.
So I hit power and held down on the volume rocker, hoping to get into my Nand.
Instead, it wouldn't let me select anything, went through its own update/recovery process, and now that it's done, I'm back to stock (complete with sprint bloatware) and totally unrooted. I DLed Rom Manager off the market and tried to get into Amon_Ra recovery, but it keeps telling me I don't have permission (thus I deduce I've lost root access.)
Is there anyway I can flash my Nand at this point, or do I need to go back through the rooting process?
Thanks for your help.
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To get a recovery on your phone, you need to have root.
To get root need superuser permissions and/or nand unlock
To get nand unlock and superuser permissions you need to go through the rooting process.
If you've used unrevoked 3.21 and have S-OFF. You can flash recoveries and superuser permissions without having to go through any rooting process.

So I guess then what I need to understand is how would I go about flashing the superuser?
edit: at this point I've already gone through the whole rooting process, including unrevokedforever.zip and the additional ENG bootloader. I get into ROM manager, and go to recovery, but the clockworkmod recovery doesn't see my most recent backup. Reflashing to RA recovery, it finds it, but tells me I have to run the recovery via ADB. ???

Pretty sure what happened is that you left a stock pc36img.zip on your sd card, leftover from your rooting process. When you booted into hboot, it loaded it automatically and you must have hit update. Not sure what caused your bootloop though.
Check your sd card, and if theres a pc36img.zip on it, delete it. Look for the superuser app in your app drawer, and also check your hboot to see if you're s-off. If you are in fact back to unrooted stock, you can always run unrevoked to quickly root and then you can restore your nandroid, just make sure you have the same recovery that you used to make the nandroid.

MadDogMaddux said:
So I guess then what I need to understand is how would I go about flashing the superuser?
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When you go into the loader (Vol Down + Power) does it say S-Off in the first line?
If it does then you still have root and you can flash the custom recovery's .zip and you will be able to load back into recovery.
If you have S-Off read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8285266&postcount=1
Flashable SuperUser is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828

_MetalHead_ said:
Pretty sure what happened is that you left a stock pc36img.zip on your sd card, leftover from your rooting process.
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Definitely. So now I need to get my microSD card reader and remove it. Can do.
Any idea why both Clockworkmod and Amon_RA are unable to load my backup? Versions for RA should be the same, and I think the same for Clockwork as well.

OK, I deleted PC36IMG.zip, now it just stays stuck in bootloader.

looks like I'm hosed, but here's what I'm learning on Freeza's thread, where I DLed the PC36IMG.zip in the first place:
freeza said:
UPDATE: It appears as though everyone is getting stuck in bootloader after this procedure. You can get out of this by reflashing your current ROM (without wiping) and/or restore a nandroid backup. Some have reported errors when trying to restore a nandroid backup. YMMV
Karadorde has put together a package that works. Read his instructions below:
First and foremost it seems that if you get stuck in the Bootloader (no matter what method you are using) then your Nandroid backups are broken. I don't know that anyone has been able to successfully restore from one of those yet.
The file in the OP allows you to apply just the engineering HBOOT.img (hboot_0.76.2000.img) This works flawlessly for some but not so well for others.
The file in Post 71 and Post 91 allows you to apply a full PC36IMG.zip that contains the engineering HBOOT.img (hboot_0.76.2000.img) This is a fix for some who have gotten stuck in the Bootloader after using the file from the OP. At the same time this has also caused the some of the same issues people were having with getting stuck in the Bootloader from the OP. This file will not downgrade any part of your phone, however, it will wipe the phone. Also it is reported that it broke root on one phone. I believe this only happened to one person, need confirmation on if it happened to multiple.
If you get stuck in the Bootloader you can re-flash your Kernel to fix the issue. Not sure if this works with the stock Kernel or if you have to have a custom Kernel. Looking for feedback on this.
If you get stuck in the Bootloader reflash your current rom. Need feedback on this as well.
Link to Karadorde's updated package: http://www.freeza-inc.com/PC36IMG.zip
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With the text I've put in bold, looks like I'm hosed in that regard. So I'll just work on rebuilding it piecemeal.
Heh, first time I've tried to recover from a Nand, too. *sigh*

MadDogMaddux said:
looks like I'm hosed, but here's what I'm learning on Freeza's thread, where I DLed the PC36IMG.zip in the first place:
With the text I've put in bold, looks like I'm hosed in that regard. So I'll just work on rebuilding it piecemeal.
Heh, first time I've tried to recover from a Nand, too. *sigh*
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If you reflash using the RUU from stock roms .com will that reset your hboot back to the non-dev hboot?
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xNotta said:
If you reflash using the RUU from stock roms .com will that reset your hboot back to the non-dev hboot?
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i do believe so, but someone correct me if im wrong, i do know when i unrooted a few weeks ago with the RUU i went to the newest hboot, but now that i'm rooted again im back to the ENG .76 version.

Running a RUU will put you at full stock, including radios and hboot.
If you are still stuck, try running the most current RUU and then rerooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800582

_MetalHead_ said:
Running a RUU will put you at full stock, including radios and hboot.
If you are still stuck, try running the most current RUU and then rerooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800582
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RUU's solve everything. No? haha

Igotsanevo4g said:
RUU's solve everything. No? haha
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They've sure helped me out of more than a couple binds

[Q] Rooted... but fussy clockwork backup

ok so I rooted my g2/vision/whatever you wanna call it.
Went a little rocky on the root, for some reason after the first perma root reboot, I was unrooted. Rebooted again and now have perma root for realz! and my bff becky was lyk omgz.
Ok now serious business time.
I installed clockwork rom manager (2.5.1.2) so I can make a backup before I go do some fun stuff, but here's my issue, everytime I try to reboot into recovery, I get the default recovery screen. When I try to do a backup, I get the default recovery screen. It does nothing but show an icon of my device with the "!" on it.
I've dealt with the clockwork recovery on my g1 before but it always worked no problemo. Dunno if something went wrong or I'm being a noob deluxe. Any input to aid in my troubles is much appreciated.

Just gonna throw this out did u flash recovery after installing Rom manager ?
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i used the option in clockwork rom manager to flash it. Says current recovery is 2.5.1.2. Latest recovery is 2.5.1.2.
Might as well try it again. I haven't tried the manual method yet though.
EDIT : ROFL, I tried it again just now and I'm looking at the clockwork recovery console. Wow... my phone requires me to do everything twice apparently...
Thanks for the speedy response though T.C.P
New question, how do I get this thread deleted/closed?

Don't worry, I had to do the exact same thing you did.
Root twice.
Flash Clockwork twice.
I believe it's a known issue.
At least that's all we had to do!

kind of a weird issue to have really... wonder how that might affect some mods down the line

please remember, the nand backup could be buggy or corrupted sometimes, backup and restore if you need to, just so you could check if the backup is working

Edit : Nevermind ....

Is this a problem or is it not a problem? Rooting.

I don't want to make this long so here goes. I don't have a clue what happened but it some how worked.
I just wanted to root my phone so I went to this site and followed the instructions to the key.
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-new/
I had problems with step 10 and I dont even know if i properly saved the wimax what ever the hell that is/
When the bootloader came up it would just load from the sdcard and load up the " PC36IMG.zip" and and update.
I was never able to do step 11.
I kept going back and forth trying to repeat the step and that z4 app would never let me unroot and i repeatedly rerooted.
So I decided to reset my phone and sdcard hoping this would reset the whole process.
I then found something else to root. This website.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-root-the-htc-evo-4g-unrevoked-method/
Unfortunatley I didn't follow the instructons right because I am a damn fool.
So I went to straight running the unrevoked app without running the modified Android USB driver. Wierd thing is that I already got that superuser ninja looking guy in my apps. I was able to use wifi tether.
Now here is the thing, I was never able to do that recovery thing with that little black screen with green letters. It seems that I skipped that step to recover something. How can I redo that?
When I went to ROM manager and tried to install a ROM it says "flashing an update package on a recovery other than clockworkmod recovery may not work properly. Proceed?"
Does that mean it won't work? Im afraid to push Proceed.
Hope I made sense for someone to help. Its a giant mess... I wish I could start all over...

Boot into the bootloader and accept the update and reboot, that'll install a recovery for you.
Also, you're using the paid version?

teh roxxorz said:
Boot into the bootloader and accept the update and reboot, that'll install a recovery for you.
Also, you're using the paid version?
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Dude I love you. What about when loading the ROM from ROM manager, "flashing an update package on a recovery other than clockworkmod recovery may not work properly. Proceed?"
What is clockworkmod recovery, what does it do, where do I get it?
Oh and yes i am using the paid version, why should I get my 5 bucks back?

Palomino0513 said:
Dude I love you. What about when loading the ROM from ROM manager, "flashing an update package on a recovery other than clockworkmod recovery may not work properly. Proceed?"
What is clockworkmod recovery, what does it do, where do I get it?
Oh and yes i am using the paid version, why should I get my 5 bucks back?
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Clockwork recovery is just different from amon_ra. You can go into rom manager and click flash clockwork recovery, if you wish. And that message means like flashiing clockwork on amon_ra , you may get errors. Also, you can use clockwork on amon_ra, as to still download roms, but you can't backup with it.

I also want to add ever since I tried the root, it took my phone back to the stone age. I los the newest htc update with swype. Why is that?
The Rom Mananger isnt working for me either. It wont load any ROMS. IT says downloading but nothing ever happens, how long does it take to download a ROM?
I downloaded this OTA SUPERSONIC 3.70 and it wont load either? Whats going on .
I really need some major help!

Palomino0513 said:
I also want to add ever since I tried the root, it took my phone back to the stone age. I los the newest htc update with swype. Why is that?
The Rom Mananger isnt working for me either. It wont load any ROMS. IT says downloading but nothing ever happens, how long does it take to download a ROM?
I downloaded this OTA SUPERSONIC 3.70 and it wont load either? Whats going on .
I really need some major help!
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I'm not sure why you would root your EVO without knowing anything about the process or at the very least the terminology, but it's not too late. I recommended that you go and read and get a better feel for the process.
There are at least a dozen threads on the subject. Here's one to start you off Helpful Threads.

[Q] I Can't Boot Into Recovery

I successfully rooted my phone a few days ago using the Revolutionary method and flashed ClockworkMod Recovery without a problem. Then I flashed CyanogenMod 7.1.0 again without a problem. I noticed my gps has been having an issue detecting my location so I figured I should flash the nandroid for my stock rooted android 2.3.3 rom and see if the issue still exists. My main problem is that I can't boot into recovery. Apparently I have the latest version of Clockwork. I try to boot into recovery using different methods and I keep ending up at the white screen that says 'Revolutionary' in pink at the top with the 3 skateboarding androids at the bottom. I try to get to recovery from that screen also still with no success. It just reboots into that screen. I was thinking I may have to use the ruu to unroot my Evo (I rather find an alternative solution). How can I regain my ability to boot into recovery? Any help would be much appreciated...
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If grab the pc36img for amon_ra, throw it in the root of your SD, using a card reader in a computer, get into hboot and let it install. Then try to get into recovery. F clockwork anyway.....90% of the peeps around here having problems are running that recovery

DoubleA319 said:
I successfully rooted my phone a few days ago using the Revolutionary method and flashed ClockworkMod Recovery without a problem. Then I flashed CyanogenMod 7.1.0 again without a problem. I noticed my gps has been having an issue detecting my location so I figured I should flash the nandroid for my stock rooted android 2.3.3 rom and see if the issue still exists. My main problem is that I can't boot into recovery. Apparently I have the latest version of Clockwork. I try to boot into recovery using different methods and I keep ending up at the white screen that says 'Revolutionary' in pink at the top with the 3 skateboarding androids at the bottom. I try to get to recovery from that screen also still with no success. It just reboots into that screen. I was thinking I may have to use the ruu to unroot my Evo (I rather find an alternative solution). How can I regain my ability to boot into recovery? Any help would be much appreciated...
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Turn off your phone,then when turning it on hold the volume rocker in the down position,you will then boot into hboot settings,hboot will automatically check for the update file(PC36IMG)after its done,scroll to recovery and enter that way,if you still cant get into recovery,you will need to download and reinstall the latest revolutionary root tool,i recommend using "TeamWin Recovery Project" i've never had a problem with it.

Just to let you know, guys, TWRP v2 is out! I'll post the link to Amon Ra. You can find the link to TWRP 2 in my sig.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654

Thanks for the answers. I'll reply again when I get a chance to put the advice to use
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Lacedaemon said:
Just to let you know, guys, TWRP v2 is out! I'll post the link to Amon Ra. You can find the link to TWRP 2 in my sig.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654
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I was actually going to go the amon ra route because i was familiar with it while I had a HTC Hero. But TWRP v2 caught my attention and I decided to go that route. So far so good as far as I can tell. I made a nandroid backup. Thanks. Any tips or info I should know about using TWRP?
And 1 more thing. I have a nandroid backup from when I had clockwork recovery. I should still be able to flash that back up right?

DoubleA319 said:
I was actually going to go the amon ra route because i was familiar with it while I had a HTC Hero. But TWRP v2 caught my attention and I decided to go that route. So far so good as far as I can tell. I made a nandroid backup. Thanks. Any tips or info I should know about using TWRP?
And 1 more thing. I have a nandroid backup from when I had clockwork recovery. I should still be able to flash that back up right?
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Nope you can't flash your CWM backup since your on TWRP. You would have to flash back to the version of CWM that you made the backup with
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Man that sucks. I need to be able to access that particular nandroid. Thats my stock backup right after I rooted my phone. Ok so I can flash back to clockwork, restore my nandroid, then go back to TWRP and make a backup compatible with TWRP?

DoubleA319 said:
Man that sucks. I need to be able to access that particular nandroid. Thats my stock backup right after I rooted my phone. Ok so I can flash back to clockwork, restore my nandroid, then go back to TWRP and make a backup compatible with TWRP?
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Yup
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How can I figure out the version though? clockwork installed on my phone right after I rooted my phone via the revolutionary method. I did this about 2 weeks ago. Im guessing i have to go through rom manager, but this was part of the issue to begin with

DoubleA319 said:
How can I figure out the version though? clockwork installed on my phone right after I rooted my phone via the revolutionary method. I did this about 2 weeks ago. And where can I get clockwork from?
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Clockworkmod.com . Also I believe revolutionary gives you the latest version so just flash the latest CWM for the evo4g
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some how after flashing twrp then going back to cwm via rom manager, cwm seems to be working now

DoubleA319 said:
How can I figure out the version though? clockwork installed on my phone right after I rooted my phone via the revolutionary method. I did this about 2 weeks ago. Im guessing i have to go through rom manager, but this was part of the issue to begin with
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I installed a new recovery after i installed revolution,because i also had recovery issues.The version should be at the top of the recovery screen.I didnt like rom manager too much,for some reason it gives me problems.

They say that this version of Amon can be used to restore clockwork backups. I haven't tried it with clockwork myself because I avoids clockworkmod.

Thanks for the help everyone. Everything is gravy now. I'm happy with TWRP. I do have a question for making a backup. By default in TWRP, the 1st 3 boxes are checked up for when attempting to make a backup. Do any of you guys ever check the other boxes (Recovery, cache, .android_secure) and if so, why? Also, when you attempt to wipe before restoring, which items do you guys wipe? Any other tips or suggestions about this recovery would appreciated too.

I backup everything except cache.