Clockworkmod/backup - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I need advice what is-not-possible if I delete the backup file inside the folder. I am using backup apps nowadays.
These filed are very big in mega byte size.
Thank you.
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If you flash a rom and something goes wrong then you will have two options to wipe and start again or restore your backed up rom and data .....useful if you like to flash custom Roms alot, or if you like to modify your phones boot,splash etc and then want to revert back
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seacoral123 said:
Hi,
I need advice what is-not-possible if I delete the backup file inside the folder. I am using backup apps nowadays.
These filed are very big in mega byte size.
Thank you.
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The reason it's big is because it's the backup of your stock ROM. You should NEVER delete this as you may need it in the future if something goes wrong with your handset.
It is not purely a back up of apps on the phone, it is the backup of the operating system that the phone cannot run without.
If you delete it and you brick your phone somehow, then you have small chance of getting it back again.

Nah it is not that serious, a full wipe + custom rom will restore a phone just like a nandroid backup would.
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True, but what if you want to revert it back to stock in order to send it back to your carrier if you have a hardware problem that needs fixing?

Thank you for you reply. I will keep one the oldest copy.
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to be on the safe side, keep a backup of your stock ROM and all of your installed ROM on your SDcard and on your PC/Portable Drive. If you upgrade your custom ROM, delete the old one on your SD to save space. Anyway its just 800MB on your stock ROM plus 400-600MB on your custom ROM

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Flashing and backup questions

Hi peeps, may sound like a noob question but can i back up using Rom manager download a completely different Rom flash it with the manager and then restore the backup?, wanna try cm7 coming from a sence rom. Just seems a bit too easy lol. Fancy a change and would love it to be that simple. Any helps good help cheers.
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No, use titanium backup for that. Stay away from system settings/data cause it will mess things up.
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So titanium to backup and restore before and after flash with rom manager, right?
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Yes, but also make a nandroid (rom manager backup) for safety before flashing.
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Right so backup with both (better safe than sorry), thanx for the input will try it later and let you know how it goes ;-)
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I always do a nandroid backup, i think this is the safeest option.
Ya exactly....nandroid is very important.....very safe....
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Titanium just backs your apps, fully, with settings & all, so you can restore them when you go from one rom to another. Left my Desire identical to before after installing Leedroid rom: same apps, same settings, wallpaper, shortcuts... Great if you dont want to reinstall & configure apps. But it messed with my Market, obliging me to wipe Market's data & cache from time to time. It is very confusing & I dont know to what degree use it, really.
Nandroid makes a full copy of all your system, and you want to use it when you are not happy with a new rom, or disaster happens, and want to roll back.
So they are meant for different things
Hi,
I'm collecting information about backuping the original rom. I have a brand new Desire and I'd like to root and get some custom rom. Is there any way how to backup my software state for restoring and eventual warranty repairs?
My rom is unavailable everywhere on the Internet. And yes, I did searches but didn't get the full-range answer. Tnx
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[Q] Tidying up restore list in CWM

I've backed up my phone quite a few times and now want to tidy up my restore list so I only have one pointing to the original HTC Sense restore and another pointing to the custom ROM I've chosen. Is there a way to do this? Also has anyone any idea what size each back up is?
Thanks.
Either delete them with a file explorer (sd/clockworkmod/backup) or use rom manger. Size depends on rom and how much apps where installed.
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[Q] Question about Leedroid rom...

So I'm currently on my rooted Desire, with the standard/stock rom, however the small internal storage space is now starting to bug me a bit.
My question is, then, seeing as Leedroid GB is so close to the stock rom, will I be able to flash over the top without any wiping? The whole backing up and restoring is such a laborious process that I'd rather skip.
Anyone done it? I read on the FAQ that it could work but I thought I would check to see if anyone has actually been successful before doing it myself.
Thanks!
You must do a full wipe, make backup of your apps with Titanium Backup (You can download it on Market) and then you can restore them easily
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Fr_78 said:
You must do a full wipe, make backup of your apps with Titanium Backup (You can download it on Market) and then you can restore them easily
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Just make sure that you first backup with titanium and then you wipe

[Q] Installing other ROM's than CM7

Hey Guys!!
So I have some question to flashing new ROM's and I would greatly appreciate your answers.So first off I'm going to tell you what I already did do.
Permrooted my HTC DESIRE Z
Flashed CM7
So, now I see plenty of roms here in the android development section and here is are my questions:
1.If I want to flash these roms, do I just have to put them into the root of my SD cart and flash them per clockword recovery?
2.I know that I have to wipe data and cache before flashing, but is there a way to backup my current ROM(So my current homescreen, installed apps,saved messages) in case I don't like the new ROM?
Thanks very very much for your answers!
whitis said:
Hey Guys!!
So I have some question to flashing new ROM's and I would greatly appreciate your answers.So first off I'm going to tell you what I already did do.
Permrooted my HTC DESIRE Z
Flashed CM7
So, now I see plenty of roms here in the android development section and here is are my questions:
1.If I want to flash these roms, do I just have to put them into the root of my SD cart and flash them per clockword recovery?
2.I know that I have to wipe data and cache before flashing, but is there a way to backup my current ROM(So my current homescreen, installed apps,saved messages) in case I don't like the new ROM?
Thanks very very much for your answers!
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Flash any ROM just as you did CM7; as for backing up, which you should always do just incase the flash fails, there's an option to backup your current ROM in CWM. Sadly, it gives the backup a generic date/time name so I'd recommend backing up via RM which allows you to name the backup.
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use this app titanium backup (pro is preferred)https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
then redownload it in your new rom and everything should be good....
oh and since your new instead of manually wiping flash superwipe for cleaner installs then install your new rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
master.peterm said:
use this app titanium backup (pro is preferred)https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
then redownload it in your new rom and everything should be good....
oh and since your new instead of manually wiping flash superwipe for cleaner installs then install your new rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
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I would also recommend getting titanium backup Pro, its only a few $$ and it batch restores your apps. its a time saver if you flash ROMs often.
go to rom manager and click back up rom and name it the name of the rom and the date you backed it up
download titanium backup then open that and click batch then backup all apps and system data
then make a folder and call it ROMS and keep all your roms in there so its nice and organized
wipe and all that good stuff
then go back and flash the new rom the same way you did cm7
then install titanium again then click batch then restore all apps system data
if you dont like it just go back to rom manager and click manage backups and click on it and click restore and itll go back to your cm7
rickyiswhite said:
go to rom manager and click back up rom and name it the name of the rom and the date you backed it up
download titanium backup then open that and click batch then backup all apps and system data
then make a folder and call it ROMS and keep all your roms in there so its nice and organized
wipe and all that good stuff
then go back and flash the new rom the same way you did cm7
then install titanium again then click batch then restore all apps system data
if you dont like it just go back to rom manager and click manage backups and click on it and click restore and itll go back to your cm7
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No, no, no ... Never restore system data unless flashing between like ROMs. You want to backup/restore apps and data (not system data).
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OriginalGabriel said:
No, no, no ... Never restore system data unless flashing between like ROMs. You want to backup/restore apps and data (not system data).
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THIS. Do not restore system data. The only reason to backup and restore system data is if you're planning on doing a complete wipe then re-installing CM7 (for example if you're trying to fix an issue) and want your settings back. Otherwise, don't backup system data!
Also, there's no need to make a new folder called "ROM's" or whatever. All of your backups will be organized (by date by default, but you can rename them) in the Clockwork Recovery folder on your SD card. Its best not to mess with these files (you can remove them and put onto your desktop if you need SD card space, but just leave them if you're worried). These backups don't necessarily have to be initiated by ROM manger either, they can be made while you're in recovery also, which saves you the trouble of having to wait for a reboot before wiping to flash the new ROM
martonikaj said:
THIS. Do not restore system data. The only reason to backup and restore system data is if you're planning on doing a complete wipe then re-installing CM7 (for example if you're trying to fix an issue) and want your settings back. Otherwise, don't backup system data!
Also, there's no need to make a new folder called "ROM's" or whatever. All of your backups will be organized (by date by default, but you can rename them) in the Clockwork Recovery folder on your SD card. Its best not to mess with these files (you can remove them and put onto your desktop if you need SD card space, but just leave them if you're worried). These backups don't necessarily have to be initiated by ROM manger either, they can be made while you're in recovery also, which saves you the trouble of having to wait for a reboot before wiping to flash the new ROM
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Good tip! But I don't see an option to backup apps and data. Just batch app buckup or batch app buckup + system data.
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Murrzeak said:
Good tip! But I don't see an option to backup apps and data. Just batch app buckup or batch app buckup + system data.
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just hit menu > batch. Then hit "Backup all user apps". That'll back up the apps with the data. Titanium Backup inherently includes the app data with the app backup, it doesn't just backup the plain .apk's.
Also remember that you need to re-backup all the apps before you flash a new ROM, that way the backups are up-to-date with the latest changes you've made to them.
Wow thanks for all your replies, you guys really helped me out!!
So, If I', allowed to, I'd like to ask if there is a way to get my original ROM back(The one what came with the original phone) on my phone.
And also I want you to ask if CM7 slows my Wifi down, because it feels kind of slower.
Thanks again, you guys are awesome
whitis said:
Wow thanks for all your replies, you guys really helped me out!!
So, If I', allowed to, I'd like to ask if there is a way to get my original ROM back(The one what came with the original phone) on my phone.
And also I want you to ask if CM7 slows my Wifi down, because it feels kind of slower.
Thanks again, you guys are awesome
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If you backed up your stock ROM just restore it, otherwise check the sticky in the dev forum or the wiki to download the stock ROM
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whitis said:
So, If I', allowed to, I'd like to ask if there is a way to get my original ROM back(The one what came with the original phone) on my phone.
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If you've made a backup with ROM manger (nandroid backup) then you can simply restore this. I'm assuming you didn't if you're asking though. Check the wiki or dev section to find a stock rooted ROM. Make sure you get the stock rooted version, otherwise you're going to unroot yourself.
whitis said:
And also I want you to ask if CM7 slows my Wifi down, because it feels kind of slower.
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Have you done speedtests to confirm? This could be any number of issues, and I'm sure you're not the only one who has experienced WiFi slowdowns, but there's no known issue in CM7 that affects WiFi speeds.
martonikaj said:
Have you done speedtests to confirm? This could be any number of issues, and I'm sure you're not the only one who has experienced WiFi slowdowns, but there's no known issue in CM7 that affects WiFi speeds.
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No I didn't, but i saw The wifi Symbol in The notificationbar showing less bars than IT showed me on my stock ROM.
But i assume it's a Kind of Placebo effect because The wofür symbol in cm7 has Overall less Bars to fill then the stock one
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whitis said:
No I didn't, but i saw The wifi Symbol in The notificationbar showing less bars than IT showed me on my stock ROM.
But i assume it's a Kind of Placebo effect because The wofür symbol in cm7 has Overall less Bars to fill then the stock one
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Yea, less bars doesn't mean worse signal necessarily. CM7 reports signal with bars pretty accurately, moreso than the stock ROM for sure. If you want to know for sure, run comparative speed tests, or go to settings > about phone > status and see your WiFi signal strength.
martonikaj said:
THIS. Do not restore system data. The only reason to backup and restore system data is if you're planning on doing a complete wipe then re-installing CM7 (for example if you're trying to fix an issue) and want your settings back. Otherwise, don't backup system data!
Also, there's no need to make a new folder called "ROM's" or whatever. All of your backups will be organized (by date by default, but you can rename them) in the Clockwork Recovery folder on your SD card. Its best not to mess with these files (you can remove them and put onto your desktop if you need SD card space, but just leave them if you're worried). These backups don't necessarily have to be initiated by ROM manger either, they can be made while you're in recovery also, which saves you the trouble of having to wait for a reboot before wiping to flash the new ROM
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Did I say backups? No, I said roms. When you download roms and put them into a folder called ROMS instead of having them scattered around your SD card. He's asking for suggestions. Not someones opinion on someones suggestion. I'm telling him what I would do. Sorry I don't do everything the way you do it.
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rickyiswhite said:
Did I say backups? No, I said roms. When you download roms and put them into a folder called ROMS instead of having them scattered around your SD card. He's asking for suggestions. Not someones opinion on someones suggestion. I'm telling him what I would do. Sorry I don't do everything the way you do it.
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Settle down. Seriously. Either way there is no need to create a folder for them. I'd be surprised if he had so many ROMs on his SDcard that he couldn't distinguish between them. They're all named appropriately or you can rename them. Also, there's no need to keep the .zip's on the SDcard after you've flashed anyways.
martonikaj said:
Settle down. Seriously. Either way there is no need to create a folder for them. I'd be surprised if he had so many ROMs on his SDcard that he couldn't distinguish between them. They're all named appropriately or you can rename them. Also, there's no need to keep the .zip's on the SDcard after you've flashed anyways.
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So say somehow you lose your rm backups and something goes wrong, then you have re download the rom and if you don't have a pc near by, you have to download it from your phone and all of us tmobile users know that downloading a rom uses a good amount of data, so if you wanna download a new one on your phone if you have to, have fun being throttled quicker. A friend of mine had that happen to him, he was ****ed so I let him use my sd card to flash the rom. And I only have glite and the rom I'm running now, I don't have every single rom on xda
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rickyiswhite said:
So say somehow you lose your rm backups and something goes wrong, then you have re download the rom and if you don't have a pc near by, you have to download it from your phone and all of us tmobile users know that downloading a rom uses a good amount of data, so if you wanna download a new one on your phone if you have to, have fun being throttled quicker. A friend of mine had that happen to him, he was ****ed so I let him use my sd card to flash the rom. And I only have glite and the rom I'm running now, I don't have every single rom on xda.
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If you lose your ROM manager backups, chances are you lost your SDcard, which also contained your initial ROM .zip's (aka lose one, you lose the other). Just keep the .zip's on your computer, its wasted space to have the originals and the backups on the same SDcard. Storage space ain't free.
I don't understand why you would download ROMs continuously over 3G when you can simply wait and download on a computer. Who needs to download a ROM that bad that they would be willing to go over their data cap for it? Seems to be a weird use-case, you clearly wouldn't download a ROM on 3G if you were close to your data throttle. I'm sure at that point your current ROM can last you the rest of the day till you get to a computer.
If you're "somehow losing" your ROM manager backups you might have other issues to deal with first.

[Q] Backup of apps

Hello all,
Question is:
How to create a full backup of your phone (applications, photos, music and so on) that you can restore after flashing a firmware to your phone??
I am desperate making it manual (copy music, see what apps you need again, etc) each time i flash a rom!!!
Please advise!
(I hope I am not the only one having this issue .... )
Thx
kreindler said:
Hello all,
Question is:
How to create a full backup of your phone (applications, photos, music and so on) that you can restore after flashing a firmware to your phone??
I am desperate making it manual (copy music, see what apps you need again, etc) each time i flash a rom!!!
Please advise!
(I hope I am not the only one having this issue .... )
Thx
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Nandroid backup in recovery
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adb backup if you're not rooted.
If rooted then titanium backup pro best app available for tasks like this. Has a batch feature to backup what you need and restore again also you can save your backup to dropbox.
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It is somehow helpfull, but still:
It works for all user installed apps flawless.
BUT i cannot complete it for system apps! For none of them! It doesnt give me an error or so, it (the progress bar) just freezes when trying to backup sys apps....
My phone is of course rooted...
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kreindler said:
It is somehow helpfull, but still:
It works for all user installed apps flawless.
BUT i cannot complete it for system apps! For none of them! It doesnt give me an error or so, it (the progress bar) just freezes when trying to backup sys apps....
My phone is of course rooted...
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Titanium backup works fine with user or system app, you can uninstall titanium backup and delete the folder on sd card and redownload the app
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I tested the 4.6 version as i wanted to pay fo it only after I see it working
Will try somehow to test the last version.... If there would be a trial...
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