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Hi peeps, may sound like a noob question but can i back up using Rom manager download a completely different Rom flash it with the manager and then restore the backup?, wanna try cm7 coming from a sence rom. Just seems a bit too easy lol. Fancy a change and would love it to be that simple. Any helps good help cheers.
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No, use titanium backup for that. Stay away from system settings/data cause it will mess things up.
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So titanium to backup and restore before and after flash with rom manager, right?
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Yes, but also make a nandroid (rom manager backup) for safety before flashing.
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Right so backup with both (better safe than sorry), thanx for the input will try it later and let you know how it goes ;-)
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I always do a nandroid backup, i think this is the safeest option.
Ya exactly....nandroid is very important.....very safe....
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Titanium just backs your apps, fully, with settings & all, so you can restore them when you go from one rom to another. Left my Desire identical to before after installing Leedroid rom: same apps, same settings, wallpaper, shortcuts... Great if you dont want to reinstall & configure apps. But it messed with my Market, obliging me to wipe Market's data & cache from time to time. It is very confusing & I dont know to what degree use it, really.
Nandroid makes a full copy of all your system, and you want to use it when you are not happy with a new rom, or disaster happens, and want to roll back.
So they are meant for different things
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I'm collecting information about backuping the original rom. I have a brand new Desire and I'd like to root and get some custom rom. Is there any way how to backup my software state for restoring and eventual warranty repairs?
My rom is unavailable everywhere on the Internet. And yes, I did searches but didn't get the full-range answer. Tnx
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Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.
todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up
before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.
everytime ive installed a custom rom it breaks after i reboot the phone.
ive tried gingerburst, insertCoin, aceSmod for HTC desire and they dont work very well at all...
after i reboot the phone after restoring via titanium backup my widgets get messed up and my htc people app doesnt work properly either.
am i restoring it wrong or something with titanium backup? :S has anyone else came across this problem?
With your apps that the widgets are based on, are they saved to internal storage? Because if they're saved to sd card they will not work, they must be in internal storage to work.
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Did you restore the red apps with titanium? Don't do this. It will corrupt your Rom.
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N3m3515 said:
Did you restore the red apps with titanium? Don't do this. It will corrupt your Rom.
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i click on menu>batches>restore all apps with data then select all and restore. take it this is bad then?
^No need to restore system apps (the ones in red), because your new system apps are the ones that came with your new ROM. Restore only user apps + data.
thanks guys
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With your apps that the widgets are based on, are they saved to internal storage? Because if they're saved to sd card they will not work, they must be in internal storage to work.
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Unless one is using a2sd+. Then android "thinks" they are still stored in internal memory (although they are stored in ext partition of sd card) and so the widgets still work.
just installed a custom ROM again and restored with titanium backup.
this time i only backed up the green apps/data and only restored the green apps/data as well.
still the same problem though after first reboot.
Do you run a complete wipe when you flash a new rom? I suggest to delete ALL backups made with titanium backup, run a complete new one, flash new rom with complete wipe, reboot after first boot of the new rom, and then restore apps + userdata with tb.
If this does not help, install all apps manually and only restore their data with tb.
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Do you run a complete wipe when you flash a new rom? I suggest to delete ALL backups made with titanium backup, run a complete new one, flash new rom with complete wipe, reboot after first boot of the new rom, and then restore apps + userdata with tb.
If this does not help, install all apps manually and only restore their data with tb.
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yes, i do run a complete wipe. i will try again later thanks.
MatDroid, I think if he has more than a hundred user apps (like me), it'd be bloody to re-install apps manually. This can often be fixed by Root Toolbox's "Fix Permissions" function, which fixes broken market links and mismatched backups/restores. Dunno if the free version of RT has it though, as I'm using the paid Pro version.
I was using the Titanium Backup to restore the apps after installing a new ROM, but it ask permission to install every app (I have about 100 apps).
Do someone know an easy and free way to restore a lot of apps after installing a new ROM?
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I was using the Titanium Backup to restore the apps after installing a new ROM, but it ask permission to install every app (I have about 100 apps).
Do someone know an easy and free way to restore a lot of apps after installing a new ROM?
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Look for ic_backup and ic_restore here on XDA. These are flashable zips from recovery. Sorry, cannot upload them atm.
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Many thanks!!!
After a little bit of googling I found the ic_backup and ic_restore:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20056119&postcount=8230
http://e-tel.eu/post/5831858062/backup-apps-wipe-flash-rom-restore-apps
It will be very easy to install a new ROM now
The paid version of Titanium allows batch restore. It will also restore to previous app location (int or sd) if that box is checked.
I'm currently using an older FrostyJB rom and would like to update to the latest version. The problem is that I've spent alot of time tweaking the settings, downloading apps, and tweaking app settings to my liking.
Is there a way I can save all the apps, app settings, and data? That way after I update to the latest rom version, I can just load it up and won't have to fiddle with downloading all the apps and setting them up again.
Nandroid backup!
From cwm (rom manager)or (goo manager) from the playstore! It does a whole backup of all you're stuff.
Also titanium backup's you're apps n stuff. Either or but if u want the whole thing I suggest a NANDROID BACKUP!!!
U BETTER AXXEEEEE SOMEONE ABOUT IT! dont forget it
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Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
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mt3g said:
Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
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All of what he said.
Also it might be safe to assume you can just flash over on top of the old version, just don't report bugs if you have some, if things start acting weird and you get force closes, then wipe and start over. Longest run on ever.
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mt3g said:
Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
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Thanks, that worked flawlessly. :victory:
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Thanks, that worked flawlessly. :victory:
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Yeah um gonna try that too thanks for sharing.
Yep. Titanium backup is what you need.
Me I use app2zip in order to backup my apps and what i like about it is that it makes a zip that you can flash right after you flash a rom.
It says that if your data is not erase it will restore it but it doesn't work all the time for me so I use a different app to backup apps and phone data to restore them.
More steps than TB but free
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My backup will restore apps and data and easier to use than titanium.
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backups
depends on the backup i'm doing on which one i prefer:
titanium backup if i want to backup the app and the data
superbox if i want just the .apk backed up for later install
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Nandroid backup!
From cwm (rom manager)or (goo manager) from the playstore! It does a whole backup of all you're stuff.
Also titanium backup's you're apps n stuff. Either or but if u want the whole thing I suggest a NANDROID BACKUP!!!
U BETTER AXXEEEEE SOMEONE ABOUT IT! dont forget it
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I don't think he's looking to restore a full backup such as a nandroid. He's wanting to flash a newer version of a rom and make sure all his settings are the same afterwards. I'm sure he wants to have all his messages and bookmarks and apps and widgets to all be there afterward.
Honestly, I don't think there is such an app as I would have found it by now. I hate flashing rom updates every other day and having to restore my messages (and finding out that the backup is from a week ago so I've lost a bunch), downloading my apps and having to reset the settings (usually forgetting an app or 2 every time), not having my bookmarks anymore, etc.
I know you can restore a lot of this stuff from TB, as I usually do, but I always had worries about restoring things from one build onto another for compatibility reasons and to avoid FC's and such. I don't really think there is a foolproof way of doing what he wants. It's a little safer to do this by hand but inevitably you will lose or forget some things along the way.
Using TB I encountered many problems after a frosty upgrade awhile back. Something about the file system? Has anyone encountered this, as I would also like to upgrade from an old nandroid frosty bk
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dito33 said:
My backup will restore apps and data and easier to use than titanium.
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I agree. I prefer this over TB when it comes to backups but that's my personal preference.
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Toz35 said:
Using TB I encountered many problems after a frosty upgrade awhile back. Something about the file system? Has anyone encountered this, as I would also like to upgrade from an old nandroid frosty bk
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Did you try to restore system data? If so, then that's the problem. Never do that for any reason (when updating the rom).
What I usually do is restore apps like evernote with data basically apps that have info on it. While others ones like Pandora without data in which I could start from Scratch without losing anything. If you want to keep actual settings really I think the only way to do it is if your upgrading the same rom to a different version and rom has to support it.
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