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Old info now, please checkout the new thead here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391147
looks pretty friggin good to me man. Is there a .cab file you can put together for this?
Putting the final touches on it as we speak
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I was able to get the TestUIPlugin to work and update in realtime. I used mortscript to get values from "weather watcher mobile", which is free. Currently, you run the script, it loads weather watcher, copies over the forecast data, updates the registry entries for testuiplugin, updates the plugin, and closes weather watcher in the background. It's not very elegant right now, because it uses mortscript. Maybe someone can write a standalone exe based on my work.
Here's what it looks like right now. Any ideas to improve the layout ?
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I was wondering the same thing as Pudge. It may not look exactly like you've mapped it out in your head...but it looks pretty darn good to me. A .cab would be great, Organic.
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Putting the final touches on it as we speak
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One question... This won't somehow change our home layout to the CHome Slim, will it? I like my festively plump slider panels the way they are! lol I just want the weather .cab.
Rip Syntaxx said:
One question... This won't somehow change our home layout to the CHome Slim, will it? I like my festively plump slider panels the way they are! lol I just want the weather .cab.
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Haha! fesitvely flump? I thought i was the only one who used that term!
Hahaha Actually it WILL, because I wrote this for myself. Buuuuuut, I will make an original version as well
Hey OrganicM, It looks sick but if i could suggest something, then it would be the title, instead of making the "temperature" the title, why not make it My Weather or something along those lines and underneath it - you could make a line for the temperature, upto u - otherwise it looks amazing - Keep up the good work and post a .cab when ur done
Good Luck !
I know, that's what I wanted to do initially, but this damn TestUIPlugin, will NOT let me do two lines of text!! Only thing I could do, is append the current temperature at the end of the forecast blurb... But it wouldn't really make it stand out.
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Hahaha Actually it WILL, because I wrote this for myself. Buuuuuut, I will make an original version as well
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That would be awesome. Many thanks.
check the first post
About implementing it to any panels, slim or not...
Hi OrganicM!
Nice job you done with this app.
I took a look at your cab _setup.xml and I was wondering what needs to be changed to the Chome_320x240.cpr for the app to work, since I prefer my chubby panels and its icons and overall layout (just a matter of taste, you know).
Perhaps you could post a little step by step guide for the ones like me who want to implement it by hand, with the needed files in a single compressed file (zip, rar, your choice really, I've already got them from the cab ).
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.
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Hi OrganicM!
Nice job you done with this app.
It took a look at your cab _setup.xml and I was wondering what needs to be changed to the Chome_320x240.cpr for the app to work, since I prefer my chubby panels and its icons and overall layout (just a matter of taste, you know).
Perhaps you could even post a little step by step guide for the ones like me who want to implement it by hand with the needed files in a compressed file (zip, rar, your choice really, I've already got them from the cab ).
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.
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If I'm not mistaken, I thought he intended to post the .cab for the "chubby panels" soon anyway. I am on the same page with you, Cassiano. I like my plump panels, but I'd like to install Organic's .cab too. I don't necessarily wanna change anything in my homescreen layout--aside from including the new weather panel.
Guys... read the first post.... There might be something there for ya.
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Guys... read the first post.... There might be something there for ya.
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Disregard my previous posts! I see you've laid everything out in the 1st post. Thanks man.
Is anyone else have trouble updating the city? I'm trying to get Seattle on here, but it won't find it by name, and if using the zip is keeps showing sunny Las Vagas... That sucks, mainly 'cause it nice there and not here... Thanks.
This thing is awesome. Just what I needed. However, is there a way to remove the photo and media pannel? I tried to edit the XML file but it doesn't change. Any ideas?
Thanks..
Just set the plugins as "disabled" right in the registry.
Updated first post again, this time I added a "last updated" time in the top right corner. This gets updated everytime the weather script runs, so you have an idea how recent the info is.
Alright...for some reason it won't allow my city to be displayed when setting up Weather Watcher. It'll take me to a blank IE screen. I made the change to my city in 'Options', like instructed. Then tried to open 'Update Weather'. It would take me back to the blank IE screen. On the homescreen--the weather sliding panel is blank and just has a sun in it. Is there something I'm not doing?
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Is anyone else have trouble updating the city? I'm trying to get Seattle on here, but it won't find it by name, and if using the zip is keeps showing sunny Las Vagas... That sucks, mainly 'cause it nice there and not here... Thanks.
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Are you sure you're spelling it correctly ? Mine finds it right away.
Have gotten their hands on dxtop. What obstacles and new challenges might it posses?
this is very interesting, good find.
I never heard of this before. This will allow me to build a digital clock widget to give my fadetoblue theme more of a TouchFlo3d look. Thanks!
Thats sick works well but if you have a theme installed it wont read the launcher from the theme so the stuff in the Luncher.apk from the theme wont show up clock,google search bar and stuff like that. Great idea and if themes can be installed with this its going to be bad a$$.
just bought it
Lovin it!
One of the best apps so far!
if you download the apk couldnt you just replace and theme the elements in that and upload it? or is that not something that could be done? i understand that you couldnt redistibute it, but for your personal use no? i opened it up and it looks similar to the launcher...just a thought
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if you download the apk couldnt you just replace and theme the elements in that and upload it? or is that not something that could be done? i understand that you couldnt redistibute it, but for your personal use no? i opened it up and it looks similar to the launcher...just a thought
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That was my understanding. In fact, didn't you do this to the demo version randumaccess?
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That was my understanding. In fact, didn't you do this to the demo version randumaccess?
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well it would be easier if the developer got together with Jesusfreke and make it into a big update and incorporated the app as the home screen for a small donation type thing? I would pay again for a update like that then the sky is the limit with themes for this.
yeah i updated the elements like in the normal launcher by the way and resigned the whole app. people would have to know how to put the elements in the app themselves after purchase... not for amateurs. would like to see someone pull off some way to do it easily though.
so randum, does that mean you already have a theme for it?
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so randum, does that mean you already have a theme for it?
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that means i can do it, and i am working on one as soon as we figure out how to do it without pirating the app, it will be released.
Randum, you the man. I don't think baron would mind. Just ask him.
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well it would be easier if the developer got together with Jesusfreke and make it into a big update and incorporated the app as the home screen for a small donation type thing? I would pay again for a update like that then the sky is the limit with themes for this.
yeah i updated the elements like in the normal launcher by the way and resigned the whole app. people would have to know how to put the elements in the app themselves after purchase... not for amateurs. would like to see someone pull off some way to do it easily though.
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Thats a damn good idea about the update with him & JF. Have they met!? Someone needs to introduce them! Haha
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that means i can do it, and i am working on one as soon as we figure out how to do it without pirating the app, it will be released.
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And as far as pirating the app, thats gonna be hard. Its not the actual update.zip your modding, its his apk which could prove to be troublesome. Maybe there's a way to get everyone together who has purchased it & they can share the themed versions??? Just an idea
How do you sign the .apk after you edit it doesn't work with the .apk resign tool.
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How do you sign the .apk after you edit it doesn't work with the .apk resign tool.
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well i signed the demo with no problem, but i am having a problem with the paid version... cant seem to sign it correctly
there should be a meta.inf file in it that you need to remove to resign it so it takes the test keys. Why not just send baron a pm and talk to him? One idea would be to give him the themes to release through his website.
I asked him about whats been talked about here this is what he said.
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My first implementation of themes will be to look on the sdcard for the assets in the same directory structure and filename that they are found in the dxtop.apk.
Something like this: /sdcard/dxtop/theme/res/drawable/clock_dial.png
or
Something like this: /sdcard/dxtop/theme/res/drawable-land/tray_handle_normal.png
Then i asked him this,i hope it could be done.
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O.k i got you so this would solve the problem i love this app bro very cutting edge,hey i have another Q: off topic if you can make your app look for those folders could a app to install themes be created using this format you have come up with or maybe even have it install a whole update.zip?.
If this can be done my whole world will change.
Original Thread: http://dxtop.wikidot.com/forum/t-135037/help-theme-creators
I would love it if we could change themes without having reflash everytime.
He said he going to try to make that happen but he needs to work on it more.
Hi everyone, I just stumbled onto this by mistake.
Are you fed up of the poor quality for the backgrounds in tf3d.
Just do as I did by accident and I hope it works for everyone.
1. Use photoshop create a clear image 480 X 800 pixels
2. Save this image as a .png file (Interlaced) - (Example Clear.png)
3. Transfer this to your HD (Storage card also can)
4. install mun-background4allpages.cab
5. On tf3d settings tab, use "Home Wallpaper" and select that .png file as your background.
6. Soft reset your HD.
If your background turns white after the soft reset, then you have succeeded.
7. Now you can set any picture of 480 X 800 pixels or larger as your background without any loss in quality. (I recommend 800 X800 pixels)
**Note: The default background is automatically changed to your selection every time you set a new background. I have no idea at all why but it is a positive side effect as far as i am concerned.
Please also note that this is something I have stumbled upon while playing with my HD,
I don't know how to undo what I have done !
For your info, the details of my machine:
My ROM is not a cooked ROM. It is the OEM ROM.
ROM version: 1.18.723.3 (23358) WWE
ROM date: 11/24/08
Radio Version: 1.09.25.14
Protocol version: 52.49a.25.26U
For those who do not know photoshop, this is the Clear.png image I used.
here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500178
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498102
yr solution to the problem seems....too easy and not too scientific. if you''l read the threads above you'll see that getting a high resolution wallpaper on yr HD is not just a clear png file.
understood
yes sir, I have read that post.
I understand what you say.
Please try and see if it works.
because it worked for me.
As I said, It's just something I stumbled upon and I just thought of sharing it.
if it does'nt work then I sincerely apologise, and my post should then be deleted.
Please see the attached screen shots.
I used Illium softwares screen capture to take them.
Once again, I apologise if I have posted wrongly.
KukurikU said:
here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500178
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498102
yr solution to the problem seems....too easy and not too scientific. if you''l read the threads above you'll see that getting a high resolution wallpaper on yr HD is not just a clear png file.
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No need to comment on him like that. Perhaps he found a solution to it by doing that? And so what if he didn't, it isn't a method anybody stated before and atleast he made the effort to share it with us.
Besides, none of this is exactly ''scientific''.
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Kudos to you Ivanhou, can't try your method atm as I'm on the Titanium interface. Hope it works for some people.
KukurikU said:
here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500178
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498102
yr solution to the problem seems....too easy and not too scientific. if you''l read the threads above you'll see that getting a high resolution wallpaper on yr HD is not just a clear png file.
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If he is saying that it worked for him why do you still keep claiming that his solution may not work because it is not just a clear png file? If you dont have nothing better to say then don't say anything. His solution might work for some other people.
Will this trick work for the latest Manila? I assume not since you're using stock ROM and background4allpages.cab.
Damn, the other methods are too much stuffing around, great find though, thanks for sharing.
EDIT: Absolutely not working for new Manila (old Manila it works very well indeed) thanks anyway bro.
No need to comment on him like that. Perhaps he found a solution to it by doing that?
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please teach me what is the right way to comment on that. should i post a comment like yours, unrelated to the subject of the thread but attacking somebody for having and stating an opinion? what's wrong with my comment??? at least mine it is related to the subject.
did you tried his method? maybe i am right and he is wrong?!!
If he is saying that it worked for him why do you still keep claiming that his solution may not work because it is not just a clear png file? If you dont have nothing better to say then don't say anything. His solution might work for some other people.
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whooooo...whoooo...no need to jump at my throat now
i am not claiming anything and i can say what ever i want as long i do not insult or flame. what does this mean "might work for some ppl" anyway? australian ppl? white ppl? tall ppl?
i did not say is not working, i did not say it is in the wrong thread did not say anything negative. all i said is "it seems too easy"...and i'll add now "in my opinion". can i have an opinion that is different from the thread opener or yours?! i also pointed to the others threads that are dealing with this. same question for you: did you tried it? it works for you?
so many advocates this days
KukuriKu, then why insinuate it's not working when you haven't even tried it yourself? Your comment seemed like you were attacking him. For your information, it DOES WORK. Unlike you, i've just tried it on a stock rom and can confirm it works.
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KukuriKu, then why insinuate it's not working when you haven't even tried it yourself? Your comment seemed like you were attacking him. For your information, it DOES WORK. Unlike you, i've just tried it on a stock rom and can confirm it works.
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after "claiming" now i am "insinuating".....you are too subtle for me. what have i done? where i got wrong? can't you read ?
yr solution to the problem seems....too easy and not too scientific.
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where is the insinuation?
yes it seems easy and if somebody declare that:
Please also note that this is something I have stumbled upon while playing with my HD,
I don't know how to undo what I have done !
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it seems to me not too scientific also.
you confirm it works? good, bravo! i am impressed. thanks to Ivanhoe_888 and to all that chipped in to flame me! now get a life and get down of me!
OK folks, lets get back 'On Topic' and leave everything else on the playground
Different manila version than other methods ... no need to flame peoples.
Strange way but did anyone tried it yet?
Ivanhoe_888 said:
Hi everyone, I just stumbled onto this by mistake.
Are you fed up of the poor quality for the backgrounds in tf3d.
Just do as I did by accident and I hope it works for everyone.
1. Use photoshop create a clear image 480 X 800 pixels
2. Save this image as a .png file (Interlaced) - (Example Clear.png)
3. Transfer this to your HD (Storage card also can)
4. install mun-background4allpages.cab
5. On tf3d settings tab, use "Home Wallpaper" and select that .png file as your background.
6. Soft reset your HD.
If your background turns white after the soft reset, then you have succeeded.
7. Now you can set any picture of 480 X 800 pixels or larger as your background without any loss in quality. (I recommend 800 X800 pixels)
**Note: The default background is automatically changed to your selection every time you set a new background. I have no idea at all why but it is a positive side effect as far as i am concerned.
Please also note that this is something I have stumbled upon while playing with my HD,
I don't know how to undo what I have done !
For your info, the details of my machine:
My ROM is not a cooked ROM. It is the OEM ROM.
ROM version: 1.18.723.3 (23358) WWE
ROM date: 11/24/08
Radio Version: 1.09.25.14
Protocol version: 52.49a.25.26U
For those who do not know photoshop, this is the Clear.png image I used.
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Thanks for this, will give it a try later on when I get home. One thing that may be possible is to uninstall mun_background thingy after??? I shall report back later......
I can't select the png as background, doesn't appear.....
png won't appear ...
Hi
It won't appear because it is clear.
Just soft reset ur HD and the screen should turn white.
then you can set any images you like and see the result.
good luck.
I regret to inform after following instructions completely...it didn't work. But thanks for sharing though. When I set the picture i thought it was clearer but when I went to album in touch flo, brought up the picture, then clicked the home button, you could see the sharpness go worse.
Lets keep trying though, I don't believe for one minute this phone is not capable of displaying hi res pics. Its just a bugger to figure out lol.
Well I have a couple apps that I am modding to my liking. I'm modding the actual apk file itself. Is it ok to post them when finished, or could that be an issue
If they are free I don't see why not.
Free does not always equal open source or give you the right to distribute.
You should email the developer to make sure.
I just figured it would get deleted by a Mod due to the fact it wasn't my work originally. I got a couple I know people will like.
Fancy Widget, working on a clear Pandora (couple versions actually), and Some more that I come across.
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Free does not always equal open source or give you the right to distribute.
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Right that what I was thinking.
ViViDboarder said:
Free does not always equal open source or give you the right to distribute.
You should email the developer to make sure.
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I second this. An e-mail to the dev would be the best idea.
Wonder how Pandora would respond to a bad grammer, spelling, and sounding email? Hey look at this email this no body actually thinks we will give him permission to distribute our program, just changed to his liking. haha
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Wonder how Pandora would respond to a bad grammer, spelling, and sounding email? Hey look at this email this no body actually thinks we will give him permission to distribute our program, just changed to his liking. haha
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Haha, post it here and I'm sure we can proof read it for you.
Pandora was only a small start-up not too long ago. Although I think your chances are VERY slim on getting them to give you permission to redistribute their APK. Think about it, what if you started putting in a virus and everyone blames it on Pandora?
If you have a clear theme you want people to use, you're probably better off packaging something yourself that requires users to download the official APK for Pandora and modify the contents themselves.
What I just described is pretty common practice as it puts the modification of the content in the end users hands which is (arguably) within their rights.
So posting a zip of some original images (not modified versions of theirs) and instructions on downloading their APK and making the modifications is the safest way to do it.
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Haha, post it here and I'm sure we can proof read it for you.
Pandora was only a small start-up not too long ago. Although I think your chances are VERY slim on getting them to give you permission to redistribute their APK. Think about it, what if you started putting in a virus and everyone blames it on Pandora?
If you have a clear theme you want people to use, you're probably better off packaging something yourself that requires users to download the official APK for Pandora and modify the contents themselves.
What I just described is pretty common practice as it puts the modification of the content in the end users hands which is (arguably) within their rights.
So posting a zip of some original images (not modified versions of theirs) and instructions on downloading their APK and making the modifications is the safest way to do it.
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Yeah I know they wouldn't give me permision haha. I don't know how to even create a virus. But your point is clear to me. So my easy install of clear Pandora will just sit in a folder for personal use.
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Yeah I know they wouldn't give me permision haha. I don't know how to even create a virus. But your point is clear to me. So my easy install of clear Pandora will just sit in a folder for personal use.
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How about posting a not-do-easy install?
Sent from my EVO 4G using the XDA App.
I've never looked into the structure of apk files but I thought it was compiled code? How are you modifying it?
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How about posting a not-do-easy install?
Sent from my EVO 4G using the XDA App.
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Lol meaning? Or I could look into metamorph.
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Minjin said:
I've never looked into the structure of apk files but I thought it was compiled code? How are you modifying it?
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I'll let you know when I'm on my pc.
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i've seen plenty of roms that have pandora (themed) included. would what you're wanting to do be any different?
i've even seen an "adless" version of pandora floating around somewhere before.
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i've seen plenty of roms that have pandora (themed) included. would what you're wanting to do be any different?
i've even seen an "adless" version of pandora floating around somewhere before.
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All I wanted was a transparent Pandora. I made every widget 50% transparent. I know there is metamorph and there is a theme/skin floating around that will do it. But, I dont like having to go through the process of downloading Metamorph, download this, download that. Just wanted to have it as a apk. I haven't used Metamorph since nexus one sold it 2 months after buying it. Might have changed since then, but it used to fail on doing some skins.
you should just make the theme, and let people morph it themselves. a theme is not the same as distributing the application.
Hello there!
I've been searching high an low for this, and can't seem to find a way to solve this: the sound the phone makes when detects an NFC tag is annoying! I know it is stored inside Nfc.apk and I tried (unsuccessfully) to modify that apk, but... would it be a way to modify it, maybe even easily, through the Xposed framework?
I'm no developer but I'm willing to put all the necesary information together and try to do it myself.
So please help me out here!
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Hello there!
I've been searching high an low for this, and can't seem to find a way to solve this: the sound the phone makes when detects an NFC tag is annoying! I know it is stored inside Nfc.apk and I tried (unsuccessfully) to modify that apk, but... would it be a way to modify it, maybe even easily, through the Xposed framework?
I'm no developer but I'm willing to put all the necesary information together and try to do it myself.
So please help me out here!
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Hi Daniel,
If I remember it right this is quite easy
Have a look at your NFC.apk (/system/app/) and change the standard sound files (/res/raw/start.ogg and /res/raw/end.ogg) to something silent ...don´t forget to backup your nfc.apk first ..
To make it short and clear: create a silent start.ogg and a silent end.ogg file and swap these files with the standard files within the NFC.apk....
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I've done just that and, for whatever reason, Nfc.apk keept on crashing afterwards. I might have done something wrong, dunno...
daniel_loft said:
I've done just that and, for whatever reason, Nfc.apk keept on crashing afterwards. I might have done something wrong, dunno...
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Hmm, are your .ogg files working ?
Not sure if you could have something else done wrong, but this method was discussed several times here on xda... So, perhaps have a look via search if someone else had the same issues.
... Sent from mobile...
Really? I know it seems like your just tweaking an app, but systemically you're pirating someone's app, changing it, and expecting it to work. You'll need to re-sign it, at least (look for that).
Janis said:
Really? I know it seems like your just tweaking an app, but systemically you're pirating someone's app, changing it, and expecting it to work. You'll need to re-sign it, at least (look for that).
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Pirating someone's app by changing sound files in nfc.Apk? Are you serious? Have you read and understood the thread ? Nfc.apk is part of the firmware of your device ... NOT SOMEONE'S APP.
I think I know the difference between a firmware tweak and pirate apps pretty good, because a lot of people trying to pirate my apps every day and I wouldn't support any pirating.
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Pirating someone's app by changing sound files in nfc.Apk? Are you serious? Have you read and understood the thread ? Nfc.apk is part of the firmware of your device ... NOT SOMEONE'S APP.
I think I know the difference between a firmware tweak and pirate apps pretty good, because a lot of people trying to pirate my apps every day and I wouldn't support any pirating.
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Yes, it came with your phone, but really, it is technically software (perhaps by an older definition), and someone, though on a time-clock, sat at a keyboard and punched it all in. You might be surprised how much freer a development environment we'd have if people started respecting the big, bad corporations much like they do individual developers. Ten years ago M$ eased up after a crack-down when they saw what was going on, for real, on XDA. I just think it's crap that there's a signing process in place to make swapping out a sound file that much more difficult, but you make my point really well. It needs to be there. What it gets down to is where you draw the line on what's pirating and what's not, and without that line being "as soon as the app is altered at all," we end up with a lot of fuzziness. So yeah, decompile, resign. Huge hassle to figure out how to do that the first time.
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Yes, it came with your phone, but really, it is technically software (perhaps by an older definition), and someone, though on a time-clock, sat at a keyboard and punched it all in. You might be surprised how much freer a development environment we'd have if people started respecting the big, bad corporations much like they do individual developers. Ten years ago M$ eased up after a crack-down when they saw what was going on, for real, on XDA. I just think it's crap that there's a signing process in place to make swapping out a sound file that much more difficult, but you make my point really well. It needs to be there. What it gets down to is where you draw the line on what's pirating and what's not, and without that line being "as soon as the app is altered at all," we end up with a lot of fuzziness. So yeah, decompile, resign. Huge hassle to figure out how to do that the first time.
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Nope, I don´t think you got my point. You said "systemically you're pirating someone's app"...And that´s the point I do not agree. And I don´t draw a line between big corporations and individual developers. Pirating has nothing to do whether it´s some big bad corporation or a small independent developer, it only depends on the licensing model and btw. Android is open-source.
I don´t know if someone is running an asop rom or a heavy customized manufacturer rom... however the stock nfc.apk "someone, though on a time-clock, sat at a keyboard and punched it all in" was build with open source in mind, so changing some sound files within the nfc.apk and pirating (e.g. changing copy-right protection and use a paid app without paying ) is something completely different for me ...even if you have to use the same methods to achieve this ...