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Want out of your cell plan for little or no money?

There is a way to get out of your contract with no ETF that isn't widely known
-Contract Transfer
Use a site like http://www.celltradeusa.com/ or something similar.
It's easier than trying to find a loop hole and it lets you get out of your contract without having to pay the ETF, all you have to pay is a $19.99 fee to list your contract.
What are the fees for the Get Out member?
Register a Get Out profile for Free! By creating a Get Out profile, Celltradeusa allows you to gauge interest in your plan before you decide to become a paid member.
There is a fee of $19.99 to gain unlimited access once you are satisfied with your response. The membership will not expire until you successfully transfer your contract responsibility to someone else.
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You don't have to put your phone up with the contract if you don't want to, if you do then you can add a price for it or just give it away.
http://www.celltradeusa.com/faq/
I used this process a year ago to get into a sprint contract without having to pay activation fees or anything, I simply transfered ownership of the plan, picked a plan to fit me, and started paying monthly.

does it really work or is this a scam?

Send me $50 and I'll tell you.

GaryJ51 said:
Send me $50 and I'll tell you.
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It really does work, it just puts you in contact with someone who wants to take over your contract. You don't have to go through them once you have someone to take it over, it can all be done through sprint.

But wait a moment. If you sell your cellphone like the HTC Evo for 500 on Ebay you can cancel for 200 bucks and still get 300 bucks extra minus Ebay fees and such but you get 250 still so yeah. Thats silly.

Yes this website does work, I used it to get onto someone's sero plan. Also sprint annually makes changes to their contract sometime after new years. Which allows you to get out off contract

Contract transfers are very common. Go on Craigslist and see how many people are trying to get somebody to take over their Clearwire account. That's how I got out of my contract with that joke of a service provider.
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ok let me get this straight
For $20 I can sell my contract to someone else,i don't have to pay the $200 eft, my name is no longer on that contract and I get to keep my evo!? Sounds too good to be true.
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why would i want out of my contract ? for 4 phones unlimited everything i pay 160 a month
At&t and Verizon cant match that

Sporkman said:
why would i want out of my contract ? for 4 phones unlimited everything i pay 160 a month
At&t and Verizon cant match that
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can i get your discount?

And what good is your Evo without a contract? Can use it on any one else's service can you? Verizon is different frequency? (or will it work?) But they are pricey anyway.
Dang I should have sold my unlimited AT&T account!!! I actually joked about that cause it was a great idea and whomever would not have had to do the limited plans. (with 1500 rollovers too!!!)
Hurt to let that go.

sablesurfer said:
And what good is your Evo without a contract? Can use it on any one else's service can you? Verizon is different frequency? (or will it work?) But they are pricey anyway.
Dang I should have sold my unlimited AT&T account!!! I actually joked about that cause it was a great idea and whomever would not have had to do the limited plans. (with 1500 rollovers too!!!)
Hurt to let that go.
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cuz i like the phone and the community but dont care much for cell phone companys and thier silly contracts

sablesurfer said:
And what good is your Evo without a contract? Can use it on any one else's service can you? Verizon is different frequency? (or will it work?) But they are pricey anyway.
Dang I should have sold my unlimited AT&T account!!! I actually joked about that cause it was a great idea and whomever would not have had to do the limited plans. (with 1500 rollovers too!!!)
Hurt to let that go.
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Unless you know somebody at Verizon that can get you in, they won't activate it. Some people say you can use some of the smaller providers, but that will vary. But, hey, you can use it for everything else besides phone and data. Like... camera?
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mrono said:
There is a way to get out of your contract with no ETF that isn't widely known
-Contract Transfer
Use a site like http://www.celltradeusa.com/ or something similar.
It's easier than trying to find a loop hole and it lets you get out of your contract without having to pay the ETF, all you have to pay is a $19.99 fee to list your contract.
You don't have to put your phone up with the contract if you don't want to, if you do then you can add a price for it or just give it away.
http://www.celltradeusa.com/faq/
I used this process a year ago to get into a sprint contract without having to pay activation fees or anything, I simply transfered ownership of the plan, picked a plan to fit me, and started paying monthly.
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Good to know, thanks mrono, curious what contract terms you selected, were you able to get deeper discounts as a Get In member or does Sprint verify any discount eligibility post transfer?

I did it with US Cellular, actually the salesman suggested it. I transferred my account to my baby mamas name and she got to use my phone ( she wanted my blackberry but didn't want to pay for one) it was a win win for me.

I have a free way:
Found this out by accident with at&t and recently did it twice more through verizon. Look at their coverage map ahead of time and find an area a good distance away that has zero coverage. Find a street in the town where the void is located. Get your story straight ahead of time. The first time I really did move into a spot that had no coverage. The other times I wanted out I just made up an excuse that I was moving due to work. Ask them if there is coverage. They will check and tell you no. Act disappointed and ask what your options are then. They will let you close your account with no ETF. Downside is you won't be able to port over your number though.

this site has been around for a while so it's definitely legit. There are usually a number of SERO accounts up on it. Only downside is you lose your number if you care about that. Sometimes it seems like I'm the only one attached to my cell phone number.

I was thinking of doing this to move from AT&T to T-Mobile but I wasn't sure what would happen to the contracts on the 3 lines of my family plan. I was told that I could transfer each line on my family plan separately to 3 different people.
The AT&T rep told me that after I transfered my accounts, each person taking over the line would have a month-to-month with no contract and could cancel at any time without paying an ETF. This sounded completely wrong to me so I called back later and a different rep told me the same thing.
I was sure the person taking over my account would be committed to the remainder of my original contract. Does it make any sense to anyone that they'd be able to cancel immediately without paying an ETF? Could it have something to do with how long I've been with AT&T or that I have a business premiere account?
Thanks,
Alan
P.S. Oops, sorry I just realized I posted this in a forum for a phone that's not on AT&T. Would still appreciate any info anyone has, thanks.

Sporkman said:
why would i want out of my contract ? for 4 phones unlimited everything i pay 160 a month
At&t and Verizon cant match that
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How do you get away with that??? I have only two phones on my account and I pay $160 unlimited everything.
I thought each extra phone was another $10 or $20??? four should be $200.

My horrible experience with Sprint's Galaxy S2 Epic Touch and What I Can Do About It

Hey Everybody
I am writing in regards to my experience with Sprint's "cutting edge" Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic Touch phone. Let me tell you all, it has been nothing short of disappointing. Here's why...
I "upgraded" the phone from Sprint's old flagship: the HTC Evo 4G. This was the first 4g phone to ever hit the US... and I was onboard. See, I have been a Sprint customer for years now. I have always believed that Dan Hesse was starting to turn things around at the company. So, naturally, when I saw this Epic Touch and its AMOLED display, I was enticed to renew my contract. Only problem is that Sprint decided to do away with their Preferred Rewards program. So I was no longer eligible for an upgrade. I would have to wait an extra 6 months. But lo, a Sprint rep at customer service suggested that I "buy out" my current contract for a mere $40 so I can upgrade my phone. In addition, they would credit me $40 on my next bill for being a loyal customer.
So you see what Sprint did here? They eliminated their customer rewards program and still made me happy with being able to upgrade my phone. Apparently they removed the program to increase profitability. There is nothing wrong with a company trying to turn their first quarterly profit in years, right?
Fast forward a few months down the road. I did upgrade my phone... but only after being backdoored by Sprint. You see, that $40 credit they threw on my bill automatically extended my contract out another 2 years. I bought my contract up with the option to upgrade, but now I was basically forced to upgrade as Sprint extended my contract for 2 years without telling me they were doing so. Their response, "Well your contract would have been extended when you decided to upgrade your phone anyway." This is true, but the fact of the matter is I was not informed that this $40 was actually a front to extend my contract two years so I was essentially locked in already at that point in time. To me, that is, for lack of a better word, shady.
So now I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic Touch. Wow, that's a long name for a phone. Anyway, long story short, is that this phone FAILS in multiple areas in comparison to the old HTC Evo 4G I had before. What areas does it fail in? Cell reception, call quality, data reception, roaming, tower acquisition. Simply put, this Epic Touch FAILS to lock on to towers and transfer data.
I have had the phone a few months now, and this is the best comparison I can make. You remember the mid 90's and those old Packard Bell computers that started to pop up in houses across America? Well they often came with a Dial-Up modem that often failed to connect when dialing up to the server. You know the sound that modem would make, you could tell when you were actually going to get a connection. Sometimes it would work, sometimes it wouldn't. That's just how it was. And when it did connect, you better just have patience when you tried to use browse the web.
Well that is EXACTLY how this phone is. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And if you decide to use ANY data whatsoever, you better have some damn patience when doing it.
Turns out for me when the new wore off and I got past the blazing processor and the awesome display, I decided to return it because it just couldn't perform. Only one problem... I was out of town for my job and I was already on day 30 of my initial month. And now I am stuck with this slick flat screen that doubles as an old Packard Bell paperweight.
Calls into customer service, PRL updates, prayers to God, they have not helped. And I venture to say that exchanging it for another unit at the store that sold me my phone is out of the question. And I will take a wild guess and say that a trip to my local Sprint repair center will not help either.
So if the above fails, where am I at? I am stuck with a brand new $200 Slick Packard Bell Paperweight.
Do any of you have any suggestions on what your course of action would be? Should the following be my philosophy from here on out?
Business is business. And it is what it is. Sprint, if you fail me I am going to bring out the big guns. I am going to attempt to continuously stream so much data on roaming towers that you will cancel my contract on YOUR end. I will do whatever it takes to make my contract unprofitable for your company. I will hack my phone, I will load Ice Cream Sandwich, I will edit my PRL, I will load programs that FORCE me to roam. Fix it, or I will.
Disgruntled customer.

When you upgrade you sign for 2 more years....
Take it to a repair center get a replacement....or go to metro or boost with it.
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wytecaztle said:
When you upgrade you sign for 2 more years....
Take it to a repair center get a replacement....or go to metro or boost with it.
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"Fast forward a few months down the road. I did upgrade my phone... but only after being backdoored by Sprint. You see, that $40 credit they threw on my bill automatically extended my contract out another 2 years. I bought my contract up with the option to upgrade, but now I was basically forced to upgrade as Sprint extended my contract for 2 years without telling me they were doing so. Their response, "Well your contract would have been extended when you decided to upgrade your phone anyway." This is true, but the fact of the matter is I was not informed that this $40 was actually a front to extend my contract two years so I was essentially locked in already at that point in time. To me, that is, for lack of a better word, shady."

I am sure there are several people out there that would trade you an Evo and cash ..maybe enough to pay the ETF.
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As far as signal lock and speeds and such..... what rom/modem/kernel combo are you using? Because for me, the speeds stock experience left quite a bit to be desired. Even compared to my wife's Conquer(a much lower spec phone.) I have been installing the ICS leaked modems, while still running a GB based rom(Strongsteve's ODEX, very awesome.) I have seen quite a bit of improvement in data speeds and such. So if you haven't rooted and tried out some of the things you can do, you should give it a try.

is all about the iPhone last year i get a called from sprint, saying that they have a special offer for me since I have been with sprint for a long time, and i have no more contract on two of my lines they give 100 dollars in credit, and the option of getting a new phone whenever i want, on december i bought the epic and was a nightmare long story short i spoke with a supervisor and told me that after they got the iPhone everything changed, no more rebates, special offers and sorry that happened to me but there is nothing he can do, i have sign another two year contract to get the phone, not even the the 75 dollars for the year i was already in. so yeah i sign another contract to get the phone.

bigdano said:
"Fast forward a few months down the road. I did upgrade my phone... but only after being backdoored by Sprint. You see, that $40 credit they threw on my bill automatically extended my contract out another 2 years. I bought my contract up with the option to upgrade, but now I was basically forced to upgrade as Sprint extended my contract for 2 years without telling me they were doing so. Their response, "Well your contract would have been extended when you decided to upgrade your phone anyway." This is true, but the fact of the matter is I was not informed that this $40 was actually a front to extend my contract two years so I was essentially locked in already at that point in time. To me, that is, for lack of a better word, shady."
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If you had another six months left in your previous contract, then it sounds like the $40 was simply an early upgrade charge. That would explain the extended contract. I can't imagine a contract termination fee being only $40...

bigdano said:
Business is business. And it is what it is. Sprint, if you fail me I am going to bring out the big guns. I am going to attempt to continuously stream so much data on roaming towers that you will cancel my contract on YOUR end. I will do whatever it takes to make my contract unprofitable for your company. I will hack my phone, I will load Ice Cream Sandwich, I will edit my PRL, I will load programs that FORCE me to roam. Fix it, or I will.
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Out of everything you said in that long drawn out post, the bolded sentence above is the only thing they truly care about.
Sell your phone and go get an EVO again. You can find em for about $100 or less.

Wow. I am impressed. Most trolls don't take the time to compose such a long rant. Usually "Sprint Sucks!" or "Iphones Rule". Please just take your old phone out of the drawer and reactivate it.

Without going into modems/roms, location issues, sprints service, the possibility that you got a bunk phone itself (hardware fault, Sprint should replace), or other possibilities...
I can say, coming from the Evo4G as well, I have had None of the issues you mentioned. Not once. Great cell service, great data. Great phone.
(not trolling, quite serious. and I am anal about data speed service, and making sure I'm getting what I pay for.)
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bigdano said:
"Fast forward a few months down the road. I did upgrade my phone... but only after being backdoored by Sprint. You see, that $40 credit they threw on my bill automatically extended my contract out another 2 years. I bought my contract up with the option to upgrade, but now I was basically forced to upgrade as Sprint extended my contract for 2 years without telling me they were doing so. Their response, "Well your contract would have been extended when you decided to upgrade your phone anyway." This is true, but the fact of the matter is I was not informed that this $40 was actually a front to extend my contract two years so I was essentially locked in already at that point in time. To me, that is, for lack of a better word, shady."
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Not shady you should have asked more questions....like sprint said your contract was pushed up so that you could upgrade early therefore pushing your contract up 2 more years then when you went and got the phone on a regular upgrade woild have signed you up 2 more years regardless....... It is called the early upgrade program....still
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Dude, you're either nuts or you gotta ****ty built device. I came from an evo 4g and this device BLOWS it out of the water in every which way. This is the best device ive ever owned. If fact, ill make a confession here. When the galaxy note came out on at& t i was so excited, i went and bought one. let me tell you, the processor in that thing is a piece of crap compared to the epic 4g touch. I returned the note and came crying back to sprint.
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OP, did you really use the word "lo"?
http://goo.gl/RrGte
(The only thing I've found to be unnecessarily long besides the name of the ET4G was this overly-dramatic saga you've written: How's about throwing in a tl;dr next time, please.)

You really thought you were going to get a 600 dollar device for 200 without them extending your contract?
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hammester said:
You really thought you were going to get a 600 dollar device for 200 without them extending your contract?
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This.
Just this.

I'm running Blazer ROM 4.0, everything works perfect. Besides everyone knows that HTC's radios are pretty damn good. Also I had the Evo the day it came out and it had it's own list of problems as well. I know I had waited for some updates to fix things on that phone as well. If you think Sprint did something shady, the BBB is a good tool that will get response, corporate Sprint doesn't like negative remarks....

Just got off the phone with Sprint tech support again... did another factory reset... no help. reset msl did a prl update no help.
They scheduled a visit with tech support in a sprint store to see if something is wrong with the phone. If they find something wrong they will swap it out for 40 bucks... keep in mind this is a brand new phone I bought 3 months ago... and I have to pay to get it swapped out and they will give me a refurbished one. If they don't find anything wrong I am screwed.
I called Samsung they said that the only warranty they have to provide is me send the phone in. If they find something wrong they will fix it and send the same phone back to me.
I think it's pretty safe to say I will try and get a refurbished one from the sprint store and sell it on ebay.
Otherwise I will try to push through as much data as possible... which might be tough because data is so slow on this phone... so that the carrier will choose to cancel our contract.
**** SPRINT.

bigdano said:
Just got off the phone with Sprint tech support again... did another factory reset... no help. reset msl did a prl update no help.
They scheduled a visit with tech support in a sprint store to see if something is wrong with the phone. If they find something wrong they will swap it out for 40 bucks... keep in mind this is a brand new phone I bought 3 months ago... and I have to pay to get it swapped out and they will give me a refurbished one. If they don't find anything wrong I am screwed.
I called Samsung they said that the only warranty they have to provide is me send the phone in. If they find something wrong they will fix it and send the same phone back to me.
I think it's pretty safe to say I will try and get a refurbished one from the sprint store and sell it on ebay.
Otherwise I will try to push through as much data as possible... which might be tough because data is so slow on this phone... so that the carrier will choose to cancel our contract.
**** SPRINT.
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Wow. You realize this isn't Sprint's fault right...
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ewynn9 said:
Out of everything you said in that long drawn out post, the bolded sentence above is the only thing they truly care about.
Sell your phone and go get an EVO again. You can find em for about $100 or less.
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Thank you... that actually brought a smile to my face.

moving phone to different carrier

ok short story is i dont have sprint anymore the bill was to high and i cant pay it, I am now going to be using verizon but they dont have anything i like over there as far as phone is concerned is there a way we can be part of verizon and use this phone? and is it hard to do?

boominz28 said:
ok short story is i dont have sprint anymore the bill was to high and i cant pay it, I am now going to be using verizon but they dont have anything i like over there as far as phone is concerned is there a way we can be part of verizon and use this phone? and is it hard to do?
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Well first off verizon is literally twice as expensive then sprint. So you really screwed the pooch on that. Second is verizon doesnt have WiMax And they use a different CDMA Freq as well. So you could talk and text but you wont have any data. And the other issue your gonna run into to is the 4 major carriers started communicating device IMEI and sprint will lock the device IMEI for non payment so you will have a worthless paperweight.
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^^^I posted this pic cause after you get your first verizon bill you are going to regret going there sooooooooo just prepare for shell shock and to have your anus ripped to hell
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oh believe me i want to be back at sprint , but because of the bill being so high (long story) we could not pay it and it got terminated and then hit with etf total owed 1400 bucks and on top of that have to create new account and then put a deposit up. ive been a sprint customer since 1997 so i feel a little shafted right now

boominz28 said:
oh believe me i want to be back at sprint , but because of the bill being so high (long story) we could not pay it and it got terminated and then hit with etf total owed 1400 bucks and on top of that have to create new account and then put a deposit up. ive been a sprint customer since 1997 so i feel a little shafted right now
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Flash it either boost or cricket...
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no reason why you can't use it on verizon... just won't have lte. 3g should work fine.
use the same method people are using to flash to boost etc.

see that's what i was thinking , mainly the droid bionic is free but does not compare to the 4gtch. but want a sure fire answer

boominz28 said:
see that's what i was thinking , mainly the droid bionic is free but does not compare to the 4gtch. but want a sure fire answer
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The bionic has a locked bootloader. Get the htc rezound or another htc device.
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Mattix724 said:
Flash it either boost or cricket...
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Agreed. Best option for you. Cheap and you can still use your phone
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I think everyone is missing something here... Yes you can flash the ET4G to work on Boost or Cricket, there are plenty of threads on how to do it.
But as the OP posted... He owes Sprint $1400 dollars!!!
I'm betting his ESN has been locked by Sprint already. If I'm not wrong that would pretty much render his device and any other device connected to that account unless.
Best bet may be to put your device on Craigslist as a parts phone and use the cash to get something on Cricket or Boost. They've been releasing so ok devices lately.
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Sigh please don't post if you don't know what you are talking about..
This device CAN be flashed to Verizon or almost any other CDMA a carrier, even if the esn has been disabled by sprint. If he does want to flash it to Verizon it would be very easy to get 3g working. Just need to pull the AAA key from the donor phone.
I personally would suggest flashing to boost mobile or if you want to be on Verizon's network and you use 1gb of data or less a month I would flash it to page plus $50 plan (pre paid on Verizon network). For what ever carrier you choose you will need to buy a phone and activate it to use it as a donor phone.
Boominz, if you would like me to help point you in the right direction please pm me.
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SouthPhilly said:
I think everyone is missing something here... Yes you can flash the ET4G to work on Boost or Cricket, there are plenty of threads on how to do it.
But as the OP posted... He owes Sprint $1400 dollars!!!
I'm betting his ESN has been locked by Sprint already. If I'm not wrong that would pretty much render his device and any other device connected to that account unless.
Best bet may be to put your device on Craigslist as a parts phone and use the cash to get something on Cricket or Boost. They've been releasing so ok devices lately.
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I already said that in my comment
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Boost doesn't require all that.... just persistence. I've done it on sprint branded phones myself with no problem. You wont have wimax service though. Just keep calling back and ask them to activate your phone. They're on the same sprint network anyways. The statement earlier about Verizon using a different cdma band is wrong, Verizon uses the same bands for cdma as sprint so voice and 3g will work fine (who do you think we roam on anyways?) but the lte bands are different even if you had sprint lte phone (which you don't). The only way to get a sprint phone on Verizon is quite illegal and requires a donor phone. But their service is way higher ... your best bet is to just go with boost so you can keep your existing device, have cheaper service, and not break the law.

Ive actually talked to sprint about selling my phone to a friend or giving it to a family member , i asked them about the esn number and they said that it can be used, i didnt ask the proceedure.
but well were basically going to have to use the droid bionic pro for a bit till samsung comes out with a good phone on verizon until i can get this mess straight with sprint.
I do like the idea of using boost or virgin

brooksyx said:
Sigh please don't post if you don't know what you are talking about..
This device CAN be flashed to Verizon or almost any other CDMA a carrier, even if the esn has been disabled by sprint. If he does want to flash it to Verizon it would be very easy to get 3g working. Just need to pull the AAA key from the donor phone.
I personally would suggest flashing to boost mobile or if you want to be on Verizon's network and you use 1gb of data or less a month I would flash it to page plus $50 plan (pre paid on Verizon network). For what ever carrier you choose you will need to buy a phone and activate it to use it as a donor phone.
Boominz, if you would like me to help point you in the right direction please pm me.
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i really do need help , im ok with flashing for the most part , im going to wait 2 weeks to try the regular verizon with the droid to see if its something i can live with for now till i can fix sprint

well seems to me he created this fiasco.....1400 is a lot and isnt a 1 months bill is it,,,,,damn I don't want to judge but wow 1400 is like 14 months bill for me
when i had big business 2.5 months

p3tr0s said:
Boost doesn't require all that.... just persistence. I've done it on sprint branded phones myself with no problem. You wont have wimax service though. Just keep calling back and ask them to activate your phone. They're on the same sprint network anyways. The statement earlier about Verizon using a different cdma band is wrong, Verizon uses the same bands for cdma as sprint so voice and 3g will work fine (who do you think we roam on anyways?) but the lte bands are different even if you had sprint lte phone (which you don't). The only way to get a sprint phone on Verizon is quite illegal and requires a donor phone. But their service is way higher ... your best bet is to just go with boost so you can keep your existing device, have cheaper service, and not break the law.
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I found this thread was pretty good at explaining any legal issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433566

QWIKSTRIKE said:
well seems to me he created this fiasco.....1400 is a lot and isnt a 1 months bill is it,,,,,damn I don't want to judge but wow 1400 is like 14 months bill for me
when i had big business 2.5 months
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yes dont judge as I have not stated what happened personally so in short stay out of it, its no concern of yours to why a high bill (most of it is etf fees)

ReActiveDisorder said:
Well first off verizon is literally twice as expensive then sprint. So you really screwed the pooch on that. Second is verizon doesnt have WiMax And they use a different CDMA Freq as well. So you could talk and text but you wont have any data. And the other issue your gonna run into to is the 4 major carriers started communicating device IMEI and sprint will lock the device IMEI for non payment so you will have a worthless paperweight.
^^^I posted this pic cause after you get your first verizon bill you are going to regret going there sooooooooo just prepare for shell shock and to have your anus ripped to hell
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Lmao VZW is not literally twice as expensive. For 2 smartphones on a plan its like 10 or 20 bucks more a month.
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I do not get all of the Verizon hate, it isn't all that much more expensive anymore than Sprint. The only thing Sprint has going for it right now is Unlimited Data. Unlimited Mobile to Mobile is already offered by other carriers. And with the whole Unlimited Data at dialup speeds over 3G? .
Yea, Verizon does try to charge you for retarded things, but so does Sprint! Half the reps at Sprint do not explain fees associated with upgrading/new line of service, so unless you know your stuff... you may get shafted too. Not to mention, did we forget about Premier Fiasco? Or BTA fiasco? Or yearly upgrades? Or Upgrade fees going up big time? Or TEP going up on newer phones? Or how Wimax was an empty promise? Or how LTE is only going to be in select markets in 2012-2013? Or other major issues they've been having lately?

Sprint suit for charging the extra $10 for 4G LTE that we aren't getting yet!!!

We should start a class action suit on Sprint, for charging the extra $10 for 4G LTE phones, and if it's not available in your area... Sprint shouldn't be charging the extra $10 until they deliver, cause there charging us for something there not giving us. I just want my $10 back for every month I've paid the extra fee for LTE, up until they deliver it. Who's with me!? Do the math, it adds up....

dscott5683 said:
We should start a class action suit on Sprint, for charging the extra $10 for 4G LTE phones, and if it's not available in your area... Sprint shouldn't be charging the extra $10 until they deliver, cause there charging us for something there not giving us. I just want my $10 back for every month I've paid the extra fee for LTE, up until they deliver it. Who's with me!? Do the math, it adds up....
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This has been discussed ad nauseum. The $10 is a premium not for the data, rather just for simply having a smart phone.

Sprint customers have been paying this fee for a long time. Long before they were even talking about LTE.
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how are you gonna sue them for something you agreed to when signing the agreement when you bought the phone? that cracks me up:good:

You're basically paying for Sprint to build out their network. I wouldn't be surprised if they eliminate unlimited data once they are done rolling out LTE.

Hah! I remember this crybaby argument back when I had an EVO! It's a data fee, not a 4G fee. If you don't like it, feel free to drop your unlimited data and switch to another carrier.
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This guy is funny lol this really made my night for now
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Ok soo to get this straight.
The $10.00 fee was originally labeled as a WIMAX 4G fee only for 4G phones.
Then people got all up in arms about not having wimax 4g coverage and still getting charged the fee.
So Sprint got smart and said let's make some money and re-label it as a "premium data" fee. And now it's charge to all phones that sprint considers high data use phones aka most smart phones.
OP I can give you a box of tissues to cry in if you'd like?
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yup..
Everything above is exactly right. Although must add that I heard ppl who calld n *****d got the fee knocked off. And also must add, read ur contract, you can't start a class action suit. Thx for the lolz tho would rather read this than 50 post abt some dumb ass hard brickin

BLOWNCO said:
how are you gonna sue them for something you agreed to when signing the agreement when you bought the phone? that cracks me up:good:
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hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheBiles said:
Hah! I remember this crybaby argument back when I had an EVO! It's a data fee, not a 4G fee. If you don't like it, feel free to drop your unlimited data and switch to another carrier.
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+1.

Just don't pay it then... See what happens.
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Naddict said:
Just don't pay it then... See what happens.
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Hilarious. I agree.

What a tard.
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Speedin07si said:
Ok soo to get this straight.
The $10.00 fee was originally labeled as a WIMAX 4G fee only for 4G phones.
Then people got all up in arms about not having wimax 4g coverage and still getting charged the fee.
So Sprint got smart and said let's make some money and re-label it as a "premium data" fee. And now it's charge to all phones that sprint considers high data use phones aka most smart phones.
OP I can give you a box of tissues to cry in if you'd like?
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You're right, and I have screenshots to prove it from when I disputed this with Sprint myself. Unfortunately there's no winning, but you're right:
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Funny, their network is still sh*t because they simply don't invest into improving the 3G part of it. Yes, yes I know all about Network Vision. It's been talked about forever and they've been working on it forever. Yet nothing has come of it. And that's why I left them for Straight Talk AT&T. This is coming from an ex-Sprint employee too.
By the way, this site has existed forever: http://explainthefee.com/
If you want to hear an interview with an actual Sprint employee about it: http://explainthefee.com/category/home/page/4/

BLOWNCO said:
how are you gonna sue them for something you agreed to when signing the agreement when you bought the phone? that cracks me up:good:
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I signed a contract with them 2 years ago, and at the time they were calling it a "4G wimax" fee, many months after the contract start date, they started calling it a "premium data fee". Well, they didn't have 4G wimax in my area when I signed the contract, even though it's a major city where both AT&T and Verizon now have LTE, and seeing how things are going, Sprint eventually decided that wimax was a losing and obsolete technology so now they've decided to switch to 4G LTE, guess what, we're never gonna get wimax where we are now, and it'll probably be another 2 yrs before they might even get close to having LTE here. So that means waiting another 2 yrs to get the "premium data"? Meanwhile, now that they're trying to fund their LTE installation, somehow their CDMA 3G has got even worse than before, to the point that I barely even get a continuous data connection, my voice calls often say "network busy" or shows roaming, and data speeds average about 100 kbps when they used to consistently be about 700 kbps when I signed up for the contract. Needless to say, I got fed up and switched to Verizon. However, I agree with this post, why should i have to pay the 4G additional fee only for them to realize they could get sued and change the name of it to "premium data fee", only to figure out that they picked the wrong version of 4G so I have to wait another 2 yrs, and during the process not only not get "premium data", but now not ANY data? I already paid for it for 2 yrs, and where did that get me? I agree, they should return people's extra $10 if they failed to improve their service during this entire time, and if you switch due to their non-existent data and voice service, they should also void your ETF becuase it is their fault. I never wanted to go to Verizon, so why should I have paid the extra $10/month only to have to switch carriers now?
How does it go to proceed with suing them?

More proof from before:

dscott5683 said:
We should start a class action suit on Sprint, for charging the extra $10 for 4G LTE phones, and if it's not available in your area... Sprint shouldn't be charging the extra $10 until they deliver, cause there charging us for something there not giving us. I just want my $10 back for every month I've paid the extra fee for LTE, up until they deliver it. Who's with me!? Do the math, it adds up....
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The $10 fee has nothing to do with 4G / LTE though, so what would the class action suit be over? Its basically just a fee that they charge on devices they think use more data, has nothing to do with 4G.
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When they first started charging it with the release of the original EVO I was very upset because I could never get WiMax to work anywhere. But after all the other carriers just discontinued unlimited data I think the extra $10 charge is well worth it to subsidize my heavy internet usage

newuser134 said:
I signed a contract with them 2 years ago, and at the time they were calling it a "4G wimax" fee, many months after the contract start date, they started calling it a "premium data fee". Well, they didn't have 4G wimax in my area when I signed the contract, even though it's a major city where both AT&T and Verizon now have LTE, and seeing how things are going, Sprint eventually decided that wimax was a losing and obsolete technology so now they've decided to switch to 4G LTE, guess what, we're never gonna get wimax where we are now, and it'll probably be another 2 yrs before they might even get close to having LTE here. So that means waiting another 2 yrs to get the "premium data"? Meanwhile, now that they're trying to fund their LTE installation, somehow their CDMA 3G has got even worse than before, to the point that I barely even get a continuous data connection, my voice calls often say "network busy" or shows roaming, and data speeds average about 100 kbps when they used to consistently be about 700 kbps when I signed up for the contract. Needless to say, I got fed up and switched to Verizon. However, I agree with this post, why should i have to pay the 4G additional fee only for them to realize they could get sued and change the name of it to "premium data fee", only to figure out that they picked the wrong version of 4G so I have to wait another 2 yrs, and during the process not only not get "premium data", but now not ANY data? I already paid for it for 2 yrs, and where did that get me? I agree, they should return people's extra $10 if they failed to improve their service during this entire time, and if you switch due to their non-existent data and voice service, they should also void your ETF becuase it is their fault. I never wanted to go to Verizon, so why should I have paid the extra $10/month only to have to switch carriers now?
How does it go to proceed with suing them?
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Not that it really matters now. But you have had a couple chances to get out of your contact ETF free over the past 2 years. This was due to changes Sprint made with in their TOS.
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hey why not...if some stupid old lady can get paid by McDonalds because her coffee cup didn't warn her that the coffee might be hot.....

Sprint upgrade policies

Figure you guys could let me know if this will work. I want to get the HTC one but my upgrade isn't until august. I want to buy it using the upgrade on a different number on my family plan. Activate it on that line. Then deactivate it and activate it on my line. Is this possible? If it is, can I buy the phone anywhere? for example target Amazon or wherever or do I need to order it through sprint?
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MrDowntown12 said:
Figure you guys could let me know if this will work. I want to get the HTC one but my upgrade isn't until august. I want to buy it using the upgrade on a different number on my family plan. Activate it on that line. Then deactivate it and activate it on my line. Is this possible? If it is, can I buy the phone anywhere? for example target Amazon or wherever or do I need to order it through sprint?
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You should know better. Questions go in QA.
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Ah! I thought I'd never make that mistake. Happens to the best of us. My bad.
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MrDowntown12 said:
Ah! I thought I'd never make that mistake. Happens to the best of us. My bad.
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Yes you can. You can also buy out the remaining months ( pay a prorated amount of etf) and upgrade your line
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All you have to do is call Sprint up and have them switch the phone to the number you want when you get the new phone on the line that up for upgrade.

tt281gt said:
Yes you can. You can also buy out the remaining months ( pay a prorated amount of etf) and upgrade your line
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Sprint wants 100 bucks to buy out my remaining 2 months. Seriously now 100 bucks for 2 months. By my calculation its 14 and some change if you go by 350 etf divided by 24 months. Then on top of that I was told I have to give them my E4GT. Sprint has lost their damn minds............
Told them I am going to check out verizon. Sorry but 100 bucks + my E4GT + 250 S4 is not a good deal. Now add to this Sprint is charging 50 more bucks for the S4 than what everyone else is charging. For 250 bucks at verizon I also get the car adapter and case. With sprint you get nothing.
What the hell is going on with sprint seriously

Wizard220 said:
Sprint wants 100 bucks to buy out my remaining 2 months. Seriously now 100 bucks for 2 months. By my calculation its 14 and some change if you go by 350 etf divided by 24 months. Then on top of that I was told I have to give them my E4GT. Sprint has lost their damn minds............
Told them I am going to check out verizon. Sorry but 100 bucks + my E4GT + 250 S4 is not a good deal. Now add to this Sprint is charging 50 more bucks for the S4 than what everyone else is charging. For 250 bucks at verizon I also get the car adapter and case. With sprint you get nothing.
What the hell is going on with sprint seriously
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$100 is the minimum it doesn't get any lower. Once you hit 6 months remaining the proration stops. And paying your prorated ETF you DO NOT have to turn in your phone. The rep you talked to was an idiot and didn't know what they were doing. The only time they can request you return the device is when they let you out ETF free. The ETF is to cover the subsidy on the device.
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Here's Sprints ETF policy
http://support.sprint.com/support/article/Learn_about_early_termination_fee/case-sp061027-20110823-171256/?ECID=vanity:etf

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Here's Sprints ETF policy
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Exactly what I just said. Only I see nothing about having to return your device on their page, probably because the only time they can legally ask you to return them is when they waive the ETF entirely.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Exactly what I just said. Only I see nothing about having to return your device on their page, probably because the only time they can legally ask you to return them is when they waive the ETF entirely.
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Agreed. What they likely meant (but did NOT communicate well) is that you CAN bring in the phone for them to buy back. Currently I think the E4GT gets about $75 bucks. Perhaps that can be applied at the same time? Seems that would make sense, since at the end of the the contract you would technically fully own it, thus not needing to pay the $100 fee, and then you'd get the full $75 for the phone. In this case, you have the $100 ETF penalty, but perhaps you can still get $75 for the phone to offset that (making it only ~$25 that you owe?)

tmeader said:
Agreed. What they likely meant (but did NOT communicate well) is that you CAN bring in the phone for them to buy back. Currently I think the E4GT gets about $75 bucks. Perhaps that can be applied at the same time? Seems that would make sense, since at the end of the the contract you would technically fully own it, thus not needing to pay the $100 fee, and then you'd get the full $75 for the phone. In this case, you have the $100 ETF penalty, but perhaps you can still get $75 for the phone to offset that (making it only ~$25 that you owe?)
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I'm not sure it even gets $75 sprints only giving out $106 for the SIII. BestBuy is offering $262 for the SIII so if I was gonna do a buyback I'd go with bestbuy and use the money towards the new device. Plus if you mention the $50 gift card for upgrading with them thats an additional $50 towards the new device so you'd end up paying between $100 and $150 for ths SIV depending on the buy back price for the SII maybe less if the buy back is over $100.
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Wizard220 said:
Sprint wants 100 bucks to buy out my remaining 2 months. Seriously now 100 bucks for 2 months. By my calculation its 14 and some change if you go by 350 etf divided by 24 months. Then on top of that I was told I have to give them my E4GT. Sprint has lost their damn minds............
Told them I am going to check out verizon. Sorry but 100 bucks + my E4GT + 250 S4 is not a good deal. Now add to this Sprint is charging 50 more bucks for the S4 than what everyone else is charging. For 250 bucks at verizon I also get the car adapter and case. With sprint you get nothing.
What the hell is going on with sprint seriously
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Sprint sucks. Their service sucks plus coverage sucks. I moved to a place and I get roaming. And manyplace i drive i get bad signal some places decent and many places roaming. Anyway's I had to break the contract. I have to fork out close to 400 bucks. I was with them for less then a year. Oh well... Have to pay it. So basically I should pay and probably get it flash to cricket. Or just burn it. I paid close to 200 dollars when I went to get this phone.

jcervantes11 said:
Sprint sucks. Their service sucks plus coverage sucks. I moved to a place and I get roaming. And manyplace i drive i get bad signal some places decent and many places roaming. Anyway's I had to break the contract. I have to fork out close to 400 bucks. I was with them for less then a year. Oh well... Have to pay it. So basically I should pay and probably get it flash to cricket. Or just burn it. I paid close to 200 dollars when I went to get this phone.
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FYI, Cricket is a Sprint MVNO (ie - they use Sprint's network). Flashing to them isn't gonna solve anything coverage-wise. Same for Virgin, Ting and Boost.

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FYI, Cricket is a Sprint MVNO (ie - they use Sprint's network). Flashing to them isn't gonna solve anything coverage-wise. Same for Virgin, Ting and Boost.
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I do remember that I switch from verizon to cricket and speed and reliability was there and coverage but that was on a droid x also cricket I was getting over 1mb connection. S2 epic touch on sprint oh boy. So what should I do? I guess sell it. I love my s2 with the new ota jelly bean my phone flies. But I did saw on wiki that cricket have their own network but places where there no cricket network it would use sprint and other network. I'm pissed off. I wish I made more research. Now I know what to get. Here there is dozen of att tower and many tmobile tower. I think I'll go with tmobile. This is frustrating because it's now a paperweight phone.

The issue I had is now corrected with Sprint. Now while sprints coverage and data rates can be lacking, sprint however did work with me and today I am all hooked up, bought out the remaining 2 months and got the S4 for $219.
I will give Sprint kodos and a BZ for still wanting to work with me after my bad atitude yesterday.
Yes me having to give them my old S2 was a mistake and to make a long story short it was just bad communications on both parts. Again its all good now and i will have my new S4 on Monday WoooooHooooooo

Wizard220 said:
The issue I had is now corrected with Sprint. Now while sprints coverage and data rates can be lacking, sprint however did work with me and today I am all hooked up, bought out the remaining 2 months and got the S4 for $219.
I will give Sprint kodos and a BZ for still wanting to work with me after my bad atitude yesterday.
Yes me having to give them my old S2 was a mistake and to make a long story short it was just bad communications on both parts. Again its all good now and i will have my new S4 on Monday WoooooHooooooo
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I is thinking. Buying S4 no contract. U are stuck with contract for how long? Anyways I think phone is 600+ I would get sim card version of tmobile and use
straight talk using t mobile tower for 45 bucks? I don't tether i have a super fast isp at home I can tether to my note tablet but wont use much data. But I'm
still thinking but sprint no way I'll would stay with them they only have one tower in Fresno ca. In Fresno there is dozen of att tower and many tmobile tower. Both on 4g but not Sprint. So I'll get 4g straight talk using tmobile. By passing proxy they wont know I'm tethering . But if I can afford I'll be on tmobile unlimited 70 bucks 4g unlimited. I guess no throttle. Straight talk do throttle infact kick people off if using up to much data. How is you're S4? There is a 8 core wow. Too but more expensive and it's not what sprint or any carrier offer in USA.
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Wizard220 said:
The issue I had is now corrected with Sprint. Now while sprints coverage and data rates can be lacking, sprint however did work with me and today I am all hooked up, bought out the remaining 2 months and got the S4 for $219.
I will give Sprint kodos and a BZ for still wanting to work with me after my bad atitude yesterday.
Yes me having to give them my old S2 was a mistake and to make a long story short it was just bad communications on both parts. Again its all good now and i will have my new S4 on Monday WoooooHooooooo
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I like my S2 but I cant flash to other carrier they all using Sprint here Fresno. Boost, cricket, virgin. It's not even LTE? I love my phone. Very smooth with Jelly Bean. Time for new phone.

I will get my new shinny off the show room floor S4 next week. Cant wait to play
T-Mobil is a no go, no service here where I live ( according to their website )
Verizion is just to damn expensive, 40 dollars per month access fee on top of the plan fee LOL version is high alright
Sprint has 3 towers here were I live ( home town ) so Im good with service but data is sucking. I use my home internet for my data needs so I am set in that regard. What I have found is that Sprint voice and txt is good but data can be improved upon.
If I used data like a hog OTA then verizon would be a better choice but more expensive. Other wise Sprint is the better choice for me.
I will still keep my S2 E4GT and use it as a backup just incase or as a music player or to do youtube or something ( wifi ). Damn I cant wait until I get my grubby hands on the S4

Wizard220 said:
I will get my new shinny off the show room floor S4 next week. Cant wait to play
T-Mobil is a no go, no service here where I live ( according to their website )
Verizion is just to damn expensive, 40 dollars per month access fee on top of the plan fee LOL version is high alright
Sprint has 3 towers here were I live ( home town ) so Im good with service but data is sucking. I use my home internet for my data needs so I am set in that regard. What I have found is that Sprint voice and txt is good but data can be improved upon.
If I used data like a hog OTA then verizon would be a better choice but more expensive. Other wise Sprint is the better choice for me.
I will still keep my S2 E4GT and use it as a backup just incase or as a music player or to do youtube or something ( wifi ). Damn I cant wait until I get my grubby hands on the S4
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Yea dude. I had not issue where there is coverage. Sprint is probably the best phone when there is bit low bars. But Data speed sucks. And they are
very slow on putting up 4g tower. In fact it would cost them putting tower. Many companies would already have 3g tower all they do is upgrade their network but sprint it would cost soo much because they have to put up tower and plus new network so. Sprint when there is coverage it works. They need more tower here and move on with 4g here. God don't you love you're S2? It's a epic touch 4g right?

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FYI, Cricket is a Sprint MVNO (ie - they use Sprint's network). Flashing to them isn't gonna solve anything coverage-wise. Same for Virgin, Ting and Boost.
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I have a bone to pick with these statements. People always say that using a sprint MVNO would be no different but have you guys ever done a 3G test with a Sprint phone vs a Boost phone? Well I did and let me tell you the cheap boost phone demolished my E4GT! It was .20mbps on my Sprint phone vs 1.20 on the boost phone.
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