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Nova Screen with netarchy custom kernal and SetCpu

Is anyone else using this setup?
I'm not sure if I should be using setcpu to overclock or not...I'm only get about 44 FPS with this kernal and I really don't know what its supposed to be helping. Everything feels about the same as the DC stock kernal.
Anyway, how would you guys go about setting up setcpu on this rom/kernal combo? What kind of battery drain would I get overclocking, or should I just let the kernal stay at the default settings

I am using Fresh ROM 1.0.1 with the latest netarchy 3.7.3c kernel and not using SetCPU or Overclock Widget. I am getting 52 fps.

chazglenn3 said:
I am using Fresh ROM 1.0.1 with the latest netarchy 3.7.3c kernel and not using SetCPU or Overclock Widget. I am getting 52 fps.
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Nova screen? Your results are definitely better....I'm thinking I should just uninstall setcpu as I obviously don't know what I'm doing with it and don't wanna bork anything.

Rippley05 said:
Nova screen? Your results are definitely better....I'm thinking I should just uninstall setcpu as I obviously don't know what I'm doing with it and don't wanna bork anything.
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Oops sorry about that. Yes, Nova screen hardware version 002.

chazglenn3 said:
Oops sorry about that. Yes, Nova screen hardware version 002.
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Thank you, maybe its an issue with DC or something then.

Did you use the kernel that is specifically for Damage Control?

chazglenn3 said:
Did you use the kernel that is specifically for Damage Control?
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Yes I used that one, ran fps2d 3 times in a row just now and still getting 42-44 fps.
I reset setcpu back to 998400 which I think is the original settings and still the same thing. It's ok tho, just wondering if people are getting better results using this combo

Rippley05 said:
Is anyone else using this setup?
I'm not sure if I should be using setcpu to overclock or not...I'm only get about 44 FPS with this kernal and I really don't know what its supposed to be helping. Everything feels about the same as the DC stock kernal.
Anyway, how would you guys go about setting up setcpu on this rom/kernal combo? What kind of battery drain would I get overclocking, or should I just let the kernal stay at the default settings
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I am using Damage Control 3.2.3 set cpu and the netarchy kernal (also a nova screen). I ussually get 49-50 FPS. I did not tweak anything with novafreq. Set CPU isn't normally going to change your FPS. It could change your MFLOPS in linpack. I personally use SETCPU to under clock my CPU as a battery saver.
If those are the settings you are talking about in my opinion there is little chance of you "borking" something. Which version of the Netarchy kernal are you using? i remember an older one only averaging 44 FPS. If you dont have the latest one that may help some.

SetCPU

currently i have setCPU running on my rooted Dinc with several profiles set.........my question is what is the optimum settings for:
Sampling Rate
Up threshold
ignore Nice load
Powersave bias
mine currently are 40000,70,0,0
i'm trying to find a good setting for best battery life b/c i'm constitenly on my phone all day!!!
thanks for any input.....

What kernal r u running? Several recommend no profiles, and oc will run the battery down.
trembly01 said:
currently i have setCPU running on my rooted Dinc with several profiles set.........my question is what is the optimum settings for:
Sampling Rate
Up threshold
ignore Nice load
Powersave bias
mine currently are 40000,70,0,0
i'm trying to find a good setting for best battery life b/c i'm constitenly on my phone all day!!!
thanks for any input.....
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i'm just running stock kernal, i'm not comfortable enough with the phone yet to changed kernals........i just setting a default profile so the phone would run 384 on the low end and 786 on high end but when i check system panel it shows the cpu still running up to the max, so i don't know whats going on and if there is anything i need to do to fix it.

do you have "set at boot" checked?

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do you have "set at boot" checked?
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yea i did, i read somewhere on here that the "perflock" has to be disabled when using a stock kernal and running froyo, any truth to that ??? and a friend of mine has an incredible and he told me that these mods really don't make that much of a difference, now he's a verizon sales rep so he may be telling me that so i don't change my phone too much

trembly01 said:
now he's a verizon sales rep so he may be telling me that so i don't change my phone too much
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generally speaking there are two types of people who are employees for phone companies:
A) someone who just wants a paycheck
B) geeks like us who like to hack and mod and tinker
A will tell you that hacking will void warranty, blah blah blah....mostly because they don't know much about what stuff is. B will tell you what they know, and admit when they don't know something.
it sounds like your friend is falling into the A category, especially if they're saying "mods don't change much". they change quite a bit, so be careful.
as far as your question in the OP, with my eris i would just mess with stuff, and see how the phone runs. don't save to run at boot until you know it's stable and will not crash or freeze your phone. adjust settings, and see how it responds, repeat as necessary.

trembly01 said:
i'm just running stock kernal, i'm not comfortable enough with the phone yet to changed kernals........i just setting a default profile so the phone would run 384 on the low end and 786 on high end but when i check system panel it shows the cpu still running up to the max, so i don't know whats going on and if there is anything i need to do to fix it.
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nandroid and flash KK#5. you won't be sorry, its very stable and very quick

MMBosstones86 said:
nandroid and flash KK#5. you won't be sorry, its very stable and very quick
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where can i get that kernel ??

Yes you have to disable perflock.
I only adjusted my power bias to 650 I think which is 65%. 1000 being 100% and 10 being 1%. All this does is make sure you cpu stays on the lower end of the usage. I have a 2150 and stream pandora a lot and always have 3g running, I go online and everything and I get 2 days of usage with a down clock and some profiles.
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trembly01 said:
where can i get that kernel ??
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google or the android development forum, don't have the link on hand

mihneagabriel said:
Yes you have to disable perflock.
I only adjusted my power bias to 650 I think which is 65%. 1000 being 100% and 10 being 1%. All this does is make sure you cpu stays on the lower end of the usage. I have a 2150 and stream pandora a lot and always have 3g running, I go online and everything and I get 2 days of usage with a down clock and some profiles.
Are you running stock HTC sense Rom?
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Yes
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trembly01 said:
where can i get that kernel ??
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Search works wonders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760050

[Q] cm7 and setcpu update

[Q] cm7 cpu setting or setcpu?
well atm i am running an evo 4g with cm7 and i just switched my kernel to savaged zen and it's running great. my phone was rebooting on its own w/ the regular cm7 kernel i think its b/c i was using setcpu and people are saying it messes up cm7.
so i was wondering if anyone knew if i can use setcpu with cm7 and savaged as the kernel or if it's possible to make profiles on the cpu settings on cm7 i saw some1 post somewhere that you can but they never explained how.
p.s. please also visit this thread on battery life

AFirst of all, all SavagedZen kernels are Havs kernels (as far as I remember, I'll double check in a few). Anyway, if you are using a Havs kernel, changing cpu settings is pointless/counteractive. I would either leave the settings alone or switch to a no-havs kernel. You can check in settings>about phone.
EDIT: However, if you must mess with the settings, you can find them in Cyanogenmod Settings under Performance Settings. I don't know of a way to set profiles from that screen, though - only max/min & governor.

hi i have an evo running cm7 and i had setcpu and my phone kept restarting however i looked up setcpu again in the market and it said that they just ran an update to stop the problem with cm7, does this mean that setcpu is better to use than the cpu setting in cm7?

Green_Arrow said:
hi i have an evo running cm7 and i had setcpu and my phone kept restarting however i looked up setcpu again in the market and it said that they just ran an update to stop the problem with cm7, does this mean that setcpu is better to use than the cpu setting in cm7?
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You shouldn't need setcpu use the cpu setting in cm7. They put it there for a reason, those guys are sharp!

I still use setcpu because I like my screen off profiles etc. You should update your setcpu if it prompted you to. I think the latest changes were for cm7/GB.
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Yes but it doesn't let u make profiles unlike setcpu, or does it?
I believe the profiles is definately the most useful
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It says it was for cm7
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I believe the SavageZen governor is a specially tweaked/optimized version of the SmartAss governor.
And if you use Smartass/SavageZen governor, I think it also automatically undervolts when sleeping, and essentially mimics what a screen-off profile in SetCPU would do.

plainjane said:
AFirst of all, all SavagedZen kernels are Havs kernels (as far as I remember, I'll double check in a few). Anyway, if you are using a Havs kernel, changing cpu settings is pointless/counteractive. I would either leave the settings alone or switch to a no-havs kernel. You can check in settings>about phone.
EDIT: However, if you must mess with the settings, you can find them in Cyanogenmod Settings under Performance Settings. I don't know of a way to set profiles from that screen, though - only max/min & governor.
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but how exactly does havs control battery usage? and if i use setcpu wouldn't the havs not function only setcpu will function b/c of priority?

serdna75 said:
I believe the SavageZen governor is a specially tweaked/optimized version of the SmartAss governor.
And if you use Smartass/SavageZen governor, I think it also automatically undervolts when sleeping, and essentially mimics what a screen-off profile in SetCPU would do.
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how do u use Smartass/SavageZen governor?

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how do u use Smartass/SavageZen governor?
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In CM Settings, go to Performance Settings & then CPU settings. Under available governors choose SavagedZen or Smartass. I'd try them out & see which you like the most. I prefer SavagedZen, I seem to get better battery life & performance.

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Thanks, sorry its my 2nd day on this forum

plainjane said:
In CM Settings, go to Performance Settings & then CPU settings. Under available governors choose SavagedZen or Smartass. I'd try them out & see which you like the most. I prefer SavagedZen, I seem to get better battery life & performance.
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thanks atm im using the savagedzen, and jw is autokiller memor optimizer useful now or not?

Green_Arrow said:
thanks atm im using the savagedzen, and jw is autokiller memor optimizer useful now or not?
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Personally I have never needed a task killer while on CM7, so I am going to recommend against it.

Well I had talked to someone else that is using it like that and they said they get amazing battery life
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I say no toward any kind of task killer. First of all, they're pointless. You're killing stuff that isn't using any power to begin with, which then restarts anyway. The task killer itself is actually doing something, running on a set schedule, where as the tasks you're killing are just sitting in memory for faster opening.
It bugs me that even the techs at Sprint recommend it, so every person that doesn't know anything about how their phone works thinks it's necessary. Then in the market for every clock widget you see everyone going "like zomg the clock doesn't keep time your app sucks 1*" because the damn task killer is killing it. That's if they can even figure out how to use it & not complain that it "won't open", despite clear instructions on how to put a widget on your screen.
Sorry, totally went off on a rant there.
But yeah, stay away from task killers & let Android do its job. You don't have to have a ton of memory free for your phone to run perfectly fine under normal usage. I don't notice a difference between 300mb & 50mb free. If you don't worry about it, you won't either.
Free memory does not equal more battery.

plainjane said:
I say no toward any kind of task killer. First of all, they're pointless. You're killing stuff that isn't using any power to begin with, which then restarts anyway. The task killer itself is actually doing something, running on a set schedule, where as the tasks you're killing are just sitting in memory for faster opening.
It bugs me that even the techs at Sprint recommend it, so every person that doesn't know anything about how their phone works thinks it's necessary. Then in the market for every clock widget you see everyone going "like zomg the clock doesn't keep time your app sucks 1*" because the damn task killer is killing it. That's if they can even figure out how to use it & not complain that it "won't open", despite clear instructions on how to put a widget on your screen.
Sorry, totally went off on a rant there.
But yeah, stay away from task killers & let Android do its job. You don't have to have a ton of memory free for your phone to run perfectly fine under normal usage. I don't notice a difference between 300mb & 50mb free. If you don't worry about it, you won't either.
Free memory does not equal more battery.
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but doesn't free memory mean less things are running or even being used just a tad bit which does mean a better battery life?

Green_Arrow said:
but doesn't free memory mean less things are running or even being used just a tad bit which does mean a better battery life?
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No. Memory has nothing to do with battery.
Screen, radios, and CPU use battery and that's about it.
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matt2053 said:
No. Memory has nothing to do with battery.
Screen, radios, and CPU use battery and that's about it.
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So do u agree w/ system panel/juice defender?
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Cpu

Im good on everything else except when it comes the CPU thing. I have no idea what the numbers mean when you set the CPU for some reason. To slow the phones resources when the screen is off right? Can anyone point me to the direction of an app that can do this? What about an app that turns the data off once I turn the screens off. A free one. Thank you and sorry if Im not making sense or sounding dumb
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augoza said:
Im good on everything else except when it comes the CPU thing. I have no idea what the numbers mean when you set the CPU for some reason. To slow the phones resources when the screen is off right? Can anyone point me to the direction of an app that can do this? What about an app that turns the data off once I turn the screens off. A free one. Thank you and sorry if Im not making sense or sounding dumb
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SetCPU can modify the processor speed and allow you to set a profiles. However, you're running Tiamat so if you haven't changed anything your default governor is smartass which has a built in screen off profile of 128min/384max.
As far as turning data off, check out ultimatejuice. There is a free version that is limited in what it does, but it might be worth paying for. Also, for battery saving, check out my EVO link in my sig for some undervolting mods.

You can set the cpu governor with a program called setCPU on the marketplace. You can further control the CPU by flashing another kernel. What ROM are you running? Stock? I would try the netarchy kernel (newest version) if you're running a sense-based ROM.. I've found it has phenomenal battery life (medium use i get 15-20hrs) and I'm overclocked to 1.152ghz.
A program called tasker can also make your data connection go off and back on with the screen. I'm unsure how to set the profile but I do know thats possible. Try looking around here: http://tasker.wikidot.com You should be able to find something about it.
EDIT: Nevermind about netarchy, did not see your signature on your ROM and kernel.

ok, so ur on aosp and tiamat. try changing governer to smartass. will give you much better battery life, and you won't have to worry about 'numbers'.
btw the numbers are the cycles per second, or the speed the cpu works at. i personally underclock to 537 (998 is stock) to save a bunch of battery, and it still runs perfectly fine for me (cm7 with tiamat)

dkdude36 said:
ok, so ur on aosp and tiamat. try changing governer to smartass. will give you much better battery life, and you won't have to worry about 'numbers'.
btw the numbers are the cycles per second, or the speed the cpu works at. i personally underclock to 537 (998 is stock) to save a bunch of battery, and it still runs perfectly fine for me (cm7 with tiamat)
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Governor is smartass by default on Tiamat

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Governor is smartass by default on Tiamat
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didn't know that. thanks.

-viperboy- said:
SetCPU can modify the processor speed and allow you to set a profiles. However, you're running Tiamat so if you haven't changed anything your default governor is smartass which has a built in screen off profile of 128min/384max.
As far as turning data off, check out ultimatejuice. There is a free version that is limited in what it does, but it might be worth paying for. Also, for battery saving, check out my EVO link in my sig for some undervolting mods.
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Thanks everybody! ....Viperboy thanks for the info unfortunately I still have lots of questions haha. And yes I already been through all the viper undervoltings, 25 through INSANE! A question I have is with those vipervoltings, I assume they'll show different results depending on which kernel and rom i'm running correct? Plus im pretty much sticking with MIUI....I usually use the 25 vipervolting. Now I'm on tiamat v4.0.3. Are you saying sense I'm using tiamat its already set to smartass, so it'll be unnecessary to use the setcpu app? Also I like savZen to what's the default governor on that? Final question, turning the data off when the screen goes off using ultimatejuice unnecessary if I'm running tiamat? Sorry for the bombarding of questions thanks again
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I think you should not use SetCPU...
Just sayin'....

HipKat said:
I think you should not use SetCPU...
Just sayin'....
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Any reason?
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augoza said:
Thanks everybody! ....Viperboy thanks for the info unfortunately I still have lots of questions haha. And yes I already been through all the viper undervoltings, 25 through INSANE! A question I have is with those vipervoltings, I assume they'll show different results depending on which kernel and rom i'm running correct? Plus im pretty much sticking with MIUI....I usually use the 25 vipervolting. Now I'm on tiamat v4.0.3. Are you saying sense I'm using tiamat its already set to smartass, so it'll be unnecessary to use the setcpu app? Also I like savZen to what's the default governor on that? Final question, turning the data off when the screen goes off using ultimatejuice unnecessary if I'm running tiamat? Sorry for the bombarding of questions thanks again
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Yes, most of the scripts lower by a certain range. So it all depends on the kernel you are running. Some of my scripts (Extreme, Insane, v2 scripts) specify all the voltages so no matter what kernel you're running, it sets the voltages to exact values. If you can go lower than -25 and you're stable, do it!
I find SetCPU unnecessary. I only have it installed because I use it for testing my mods and things, but I that's the only reason. But smartass is good enough for me, no other governors give me as good batter life. Defauly governor on SZ is their own governor (SavagedZen) it's based on interactive, I believe. There is more info on their site.
Tiamat (or any kernel for that matter) don't turn off 3G when the screen is off. You would need an app to do that.
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Any reason?
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Uses a good bit of memory, for one. Two, because the kernels here run pretty good right out of the box.

1, it's useless, and 2, the OP seems like he isn't ready to use it.

HipKat said:
1, it's useless, and 2, the OP seems like he isn't ready to use it.
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Well, it's definitely not useless. It's a great app, I just find no need for it other than testing my mods.

-viperboy- said:
Well, it's definitely not useless. It's a great app, I just find no need for it other than testing my mods.
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That, I totally agree with, but for he average user, few know how to set it correctly and they end up with a placebo effect, or more problems.

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That, I totally agree with, but for he average user, few know how to set it correctly and they end up with a placebo effect, or more problems.
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I couldn't agree more. Setting up a basic screen off profile with a conservative setting is useful, otherwise it actually gets in the way of already built in kernel benefits, actually undoing them in many cases. I stopped using setcpu a while ago and my battery life has not suffered at all.
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-viperboy- said:
Yes, most of the scripts lower by a certain range. So it all depends on the kernel you are running. Some of my scripts (Extreme, Insane, v2 scripts) specify all the voltages so no matter what kernel you're running, it sets the voltages to exact values. If you can go lower than -25 and you're stable, do it!
I find SetCPU unnecessary. I only have it installed because I use it for testing my mods and things, but I that's the only reason. But smartass is good enough for me, no other governors give me as good batter life. Defauly governor on SZ is their own governor (SavagedZen) it's based on interactive, I believe. There is more info on their site.
Tiamat (or any kernel for that matter) don't turn off 3G when the screen is off. You would need an app to do that.
Uses a good bit of memory, for one. Two, because the kernels here run pretty good right out of the box.
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Thanks viper!
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[Q] Kernel for Revolution HD 14.1

I know there might already be an answer to my question but if been searching for 2 hrs and can't find it.
Can anyone point me to a Kernel which can be used with the ROM in the title?

Gaffiero88 said:
I know there might already be an answer to my question but if been searching for 2 hrs and can't find it.
Can anyone point me to a Kernel which can be used with the ROM in the title?
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you can use only the stock one, cause the JB kernel's source code hasn't been released yet....

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you can use only the stock one, cause the JB kernel's source code hasn't been released yet....
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Ahh that explains everything, thanks

So why is my CPU running at 1.3 Ghz not 1.5Ghz since I flashed this rom?

Gaffiero88 said:
So why is my CPU running at 1.3 Ghz not 1.5Ghz since I flashed this rom?
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mike could have tweaked the stock kernel...

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mike could have tweaked the stock kernel...
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Wouldn't that be listed in Rom details?
I just want to know if my phone is running as it should or not

I have found what was wrong, it was the battery saver app under-clocking the CPU .
Just some info in case anyone else has/had the same question

Gaffiero88 said:
I have found what was wrong, it was the battery saver app under-clocking the CPU .
Just some info in case anyone else has/had the same question
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in fact that sounded pretty strange to me....

Yeah sounded strange to me too but I didn't know there was a battery saver app by default

Gaffiero88 said:
Yeah sounded strange to me too but I didn't know there was a battery saver app by default
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HTC's ****

i actually find the power saving feature more power consuming(aside from brightness and vibration), i think it causes all processors to start up at lower frequency rather than 1 cpu at high frequency.

Vcek said:
i actually find the power saving feature more power consuming(aside from brightness and vibration), i think it causes all processors to start up at lower frequency rather than 1 cpu at high frequency.
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Yes I did notice that too, in fact I'm not using it anymore, I just do everything manually instead.

I've got another question about this rom, is it normal that the wallpaper isn't scrolling when I scroll through the home screens?