[Q] root no pc - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can you root using no PC like you can on the vibrant

sdetloff said:
Can you root using no PC like you can on the vibrant
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I know it is possible to root using something like connectbot; I searched around here. I could only find some posts in HTC EVO Shift 4G where they had steps. Which would be the same, just the files you need are different (obviously)
Good luck, be-careful with this method too. Without a computer to use to odin with (if something goes horribly wrong). You're really risking things.

You can use the app z4root to root without a PC. However, it does not work on froyo 2.2

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[Q] Experienced Opinion Needed for ROOT..

Im trying to root my wifes mt3gs, shes finally sick of espresso amd ready for cm!
I noticed theres about 3 differrent methods to root it..
If anyone has used these methods and can tell me which was more user friendly I would eternaly greatful, of course i prefer a "1-click-root" method but i dont think that exsists does it?
thanx in advance..
i have tried two methods, exploid was the most straight forward and easiest. cm6 does not yet support bluetooth.
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Do you mean this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754669
One click method? Never seen that for the slide. I used Eugenes method to root which is in the slide Rom bible and so far I've been able to root all 3 slides Ive ended up with very easily. You will have to use command prompt on ur computer but if u watch the video its really not hard at all. This is my.first android phone and it was simple for me so try it out an let us know.
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go with exploid
I agree with whgarner, I used the exploid method and that was fast and efficient
I used this method and strongly recommend it: HTC Slide root guide from cyanogenmod
The guide assumes that you have already setup Android SDK on your computer and that you have installed the correct drivers for your phone so if you have'nt done that already you will need to, as all the methods I have seen so far for the Slide require ADB. Lemme know if you got any questions.
cingall said:
I agree with whgarner, I used the exlpoid method and that was fast and efficient
I used this method and strongly recommend it: HTC Slide root guide from cyanogenmod
The guide assumes that you have already setup Android SDK on your computer and that you have installed the correct drivers for your phone so if you have'nt done that already you will need to, as all the methods I have seen so far for the Slide require ADB. Lemme know if you got any questions.
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First off thanks for your response,
Im assuming that this guide works with the latest OTA.. btw can you contact me on gtalk? [email protected] (for quick response support) i just wanna make sure my wife gets her phone back asap. That way if i hit any walls i can get over them quickly and efficiently..
thanks again..

[Q] Need help accessing system files Htc Evo

Hi Guys,
I am kinda new to Android and the Evo. I have OTA update 2.15.00.07.28 and have managed to sucessfully rooted my phone using Unvoked 3. I installed Baked Snack 1.7 Rom with Low Ridder theme. I have Rom manager 2.5.0.4 with ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.1. What I am having trouble doing is finding the system files! I searched the threads here / Google with no luck. I would like to be able to pull open all the system files from my Evo on my computer so I can better understand how Frayo 2.2 runs. When I boot into ClockworkMod Recovery and select mount sd card My files appear on my computer. However when I select mount system files nothing happens. I can't get a grasp of what mounting system files in the recovery does neither find a way to explore my Evo's system files. I saw a rooted app avaible for download in the app store that revieals system files on rooted phones but I would rather pull them up on my computer. I am using windows vista home 32bit OS. Thanks for any help in advanced.
Ok. For now, viewing your Android's true system files on your actual pc is impossible. However your can browse through them and make all the changes you need on your phone. First of all though. You need to be properly and fully rooted by using Toast's method part 1 and 2. This will properly root and unlock NAND protection on your phone to allow read/write access to /system. Unrevoked is **** for root as far as Im concerned. Although I would recommend using their S-off tool for further access. Search the XDA forums for toast's method for full root. But first, get comfortable with the mechanics of ADB. There are simple tutorials on XDA as well. After that make a small purchase and buy Root Explorer to browse everything you need! But be careful. Happy rooting XD
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Bmtx16 said:
Ok. For now, viewing your Android's true system files on your actual pc is impossible. However your can browse through them and make all the changes you need on your phone. First of all though. You need to be properly and fully rooted by using Toast's method part 1 and 2. This will properly root and unlock NAND protection on your phone to allow read/write access to /system. Unrevoked is **** for root as far as Im concerned. Although I would recommend using their S-off tool for further access. Search the XDA forums for toast's method for full root. But first, get comfortable with the mechanics of ADB. There are simple tutorials on XDA as well. After that make a small purchase and buy Root Explorer to browse everything you need! But be careful. Happy rooting XD
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you can view any system file you want to view, on your computer. pull the file using adb, change it, push it back.
i'm not going to give a tutorial on adb though. there are plenty of threads about it.
If you just want to explore the system files and poke around, I would suggest downloading the ROM you are using and just unzipping to look at the files. If you want to go deeper you can download an android kitchen and decompile.
timothydonohue said:
you can view any system file you want to view, on your computer. pull the file using adb, change it, push it back.
i'm not going to give a tutorial on adb though. there are plenty of threads about it.
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True. But consider the normal user, who in this case didn't even know how to properly root. I was suggesting the most problem free way for him.
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Hey thanks for all the replys. I did not know evoked don't fully unlock the phone. I will look into toast tutorial. Was in kinda a hurry found the first thing on rooting and thought it worked because it allowed me to install roms. I have net seeing a lot on adb I think when I can find some time I will look into that as well.
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Yeah. I almost screwed my EVO over from not rooting right
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How so?
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preacherjon said:
Hey thanks for all the replys. I did not know evoked don't fully unlock the phone. I will look into toast tutorial. Was in kinda a hurry found the first thing on rooting and thought it worked because it allowed me to install roms. I have net seeing a lot on adb I think when I can find some time I will look into that as well.
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Unrevoked 3 is a full permanent root.
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jagxj220 said:
Unrevoked 3 is a full permanent root.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G. EVOke (v.) - Summon into action or bring into existence, often as if by magic.
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I dont know alot about rooting but it seemed to me that the newest unrevoked done it all for me. If there is something its not done i have not missed it yet
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How to put cyanogen with visionary?

Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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As far as i know visionary is not gonna brick your phone ,in regard to changing your rom you also need to s/off your phone, and to do that you need to setup ADB on your computer i suggest you read this posts first ,you will find all the answers you are after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
After you root and s-off your phone you need to setup rom manager so you will get clockworkmod recovery and you can boot in to that and flash a new rom or kernel through there.
and i am not sure about the question you had about the update.
yes you will get su after rooting.
Hwoarang747 said:
Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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Ok, first there are already many threads on this subject, so next time you should try a search first,
for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850141
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882546
Next the following links will help walk you thru rooting your phone using visionary r14. I have not had any problems with it, many people have rooted this way. If something goes wrong it is usually operator error. This method is for after the OTA. All needed files and links are in the video instructions.
Visionary has bricked phones before when not properly used, the videos show how to use it properly, use all the same settings in the videos.
This is the visionary method, but works perfectly when done correctly..
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Then perm root
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Then flash a rom
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Remember don't assume you know how to temp root properly, follow all three videos start to finish and you should have no problems
Also the video "Load a custom rom" will give you a link to flash your first rom. There are a couple of choices to choose from.
Good Luck.
Editlease see post #32 in this thread for a testimony from someone who just followed the videos and rooted his phone.
Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Everyones still waiting on gingerbread, but it looks like Cyanogen is in the lead for releasing it.
Any time you flash a new rom you need to wipe data/cache in recovery. Updates to the same rom a wipe is not needed.
As far as what you want in a rom, my suggestion is to start flashing diffrent roms and give them a try. I thought I didnt like sense but I am currently running a sense rom (Virtuous). So you dont know till you try.
1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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blackknightavalon said:
1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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1)Show me one brick from someone following the videos I posted and Ill take the links down. Yes a lot of people have bricked using visionary, but thats because they assumed they knew what they were doing when in fact they did not. Visionary causes bricks when not properly used, the videos shows how to use it properly. You must follow all the steps from start to finish including the temp root settings they use in the videos.
2)and yes there is a beta version of gingerbread out CM7 but Cyanogen did not officially release this version, and there are so many bugs in it I hardly think a noob needs to flash CM 7.0.0.
What exactly its the range method?
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Hwoarang747 said:
What exactly its the range method?
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Its Rage method and heres a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228&highlight=rage
I recommend you read this thread and make informed desicions, if you know how to use ADB, then this is another method. But if you dont the method I posted above is your other option, it doesn't require the use of ADB.
As far as ADB goes this is something I highly recommend learning, but we all know some people just dont get it. It took me a lot of reading and watching videos to understand ADB. Now that I know how to use ADB its pretty simple, but I remember when I first started with rooting ADB was like reading greek. But I really cant stress enough the importance of learning ADB.
Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.
Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways
Hwoarang747 said:
Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.
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I used the videos to root my G2, there have been a lot of bricks using Visionary but I have yet to see anyone say they followed the videos to the "T" and it bricked there phone. As for the Rage method, there have been almost no reports of bricks from this method, but I have seen a few bootloops (stuck on the HTC screen). It requires using ADB, so if your ok with ADB use the Rage method, if not, you'll have to weigh the risks based on your own ability. My suggestion, watch the videos, all of them and if its something within your skill range go for it.
Hwoarang747 said:
Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways
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Ok, get rooted first then you can worry about kernels, I believe Cyanogen 6.1.1 already comes with an overclocked kernel up to 1.42GHz. So all you have to do is flash CM 6.1.1 his latest release, then down load a cpu controlling app from the market like setcpu(which I use) or cputuner(free) and set the parameters you want your cpu to run at.
Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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It usualy is you can boot in to recovery and wipe and flash another kernal or rom. Just have a look at the links that I posted ,you will get all the answers.
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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Not always hopefully if this happens you have gotten far enough along to put a recovery on your phone, or sometime you can stock recovery factory reset but if those options arn't there guess what you would have to have AndriodSDk installed on your computer with ADB, but you would have to do everything in fastboot mode which is giving commands from your computer to you phone. So it wouldn't be adb because you have to be booted into Andriod to use it, it would be fastboot and run commands similar to ADB, so for this purpose you would have to know how to use ADB. And even then no guarantees. So if you are looking for a guarantee you wont brick your phone there are none, and I wont give you one, these methods have been proven to work if you follow them exactly, mess up and you have a brick.
I know most people dont have $500+ laying around and I know I dont but for me the rewards far outweighed the risk. I just got a pm from another member that followed the videos and guess what he is rooted, he did it today. I asked him to post in this thread with his success story, so hopefully he will.
Here is a quote from him from my PM "it worked! i got so frustrated with adb, i gave it a shot and success!"
Edit: He just posted success his user name is robot_agenda and his post is #32 in this thread.
wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?
Hwoarang747 said:
wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?
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He rooted his phone with visionary following the videos I posted.
and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?
Hwoarang747 said:
and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?
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That has nothing to do with visionary, thats has to do with ClockworkMod recovery, if your phone is powered off and you plug it in to charge it boots into recovery, if you want root you have to deal with this issue untill they fix the bug in clockworkmod recovery. Also the phone shuts off fine unless its pluged in. Everyone with a htc vision phone who is rooted has this issue. as for me I charge my phone while it on so it doesn't bother me.
heres a link to the problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884516

[Q] Rooting my phone....

I just got my G2 phone not too long ago and I want to start doing this modding stuff. (I've never had a smart phone before, this is the first). And I'm not sure where to start... Can someone direct me into the right direction?
I used blackprince310's video to help me root my phone.
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=tU9zn_BEth4
Once rooting you can download other ROMS. Which are like differnt OS. Like g2 runs stock froyo let's call that windows xp. When you root it u have the capabilities to modifiy without problem. Now u can put like sense on your phone that's like windows 7 persay.
Three main apps u need from app store are ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, & Superuser. Other ones could be gscript, terminal. & in video u need Visonary.
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Is there an alternate way? Because I had been doing some reading on ppls feedback on diff threads n the visionary way seems to be a way to brick your phone or an unsafe way to go.
can anyone please help?
Goto development and find the stickies on rooting without visionary, I did it that way. Simple and haggle free and nothing to worry about, first time g2 user
Sinistah_ said:
Is there an alternate way? Because I had been doing some reading on ppls feedback on diff threads n the visionary way seems to be a way to brick your phone or an unsafe way to go.
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Just follow the simple wiki guides. Don't use Visionary to perm root.
Youtube the unlockr for htc vision. You use the VISIONary app to temproot, then you can gain permroot after finishing both tutorials. They're very clear and concise tutorials, I actually followed it a few months ago knowing absolutely nothing about root or adb.
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Use rage.
Visionary used to be a one click root app. However, it caused problems for some users. The unlockr corrected the issue in the tutorial. You will first gain temproot through visionary, copy files and run some adb commands via desktop, then gain permroot and s-off again through visionary. Its really easy, all you have to do is copy him. I did it myself in november and my phone still runs flawlessly.
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I don't see anything on Youtube bout "unlockr"
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I don't see anything on Youtube bout "unlockr"
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Type in "htc vision visionary". Its the first video I believe.
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do i have to downgrade for the method u mentioned? cause I'm thinkin bout doin this since ADB is kicking my butt, I can't figure it out.
Sinistah_ said:
do i have to downgrade for the method u mentioned? cause I'm thinkin bout doin this since ADB is kicking my butt, I can't figure it out.
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If you use Rage (the method I linked to earlier), you won't need to downgrade. Just type in the commands using ADB and Terminal Emulator and flash ClockworkMod Recovery through ROM Manager and you're good to go.
See I want to do it thatf way but I can't figure out ADB I'm stuck at one part at on that noob guide. :/ I can't figure out how to use the cd command to go to the file wwith adb on it which is on my desktop ....(using the fast method for windows xp). Then I tried the other way and I could never get the path part right.
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Sinistah_ said:
do i have to downgrade for the method u mentioned? cause I'm thinkin bout doin this since ADB is kicking my butt, I can't figure it out.
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If you haven't already figured out the adb problem, no, you don't have to downgrade to use the other method. But then, I don't know what would happen if you switch from one rooting method to another. Especially when you're right in the middle of it xP
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What Z4 Root app work with the EVO?

I know I saw a Z4 root app that worked with the evo can anyone point me in the correct direction?
Last time I rooted the Evo was back around launch when I nand unlocked my Evo. I am trying to do a simple root to load a rom for a buddy on his phone and cant seem to find anythig as simple as loading an apk and clicking a button like with z4. I used z4 on the droid x and on htc Hero with success and I thought I saw one that was for the Evo as well but I cant seem to find it.
Thanks, Thomas
All I want is to unlock the phone simply, so that I can load a rom. I can do everything else fine I just cant unlock this phone. I can use the original method because its been updated past that point and I dont want to add things to my computer to root.
twilk73 said:
All I want is to unlock the phone simply, so that I can load a rom. I can do everything else fine I just cant unlock this phone. I can use the original method because its been updated past that point and I dont want to add things to my computer to root.
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There is no app that will give you permanent root on the Evo. If you run an app like Z4 or Visionary, it will give you temporary root access. You will lose root upon rebooting the phone. Therefore, you would not at all be able to flash any custom roms or anything, as you'd lose root as soon as you powered the phone down.
if you want to put a ROM on for him, you need a permanent root. There's no real way you can do that without 'adding things to your computer." There are a couple programs that will root you, that you run from your computer. one is Unrevoked (www.unrevoked.com) the other is called AutoRoot (by xHausx), which you can find in the development section. The other way is a manual method, using adb, and pushing files. It's also in the development section. The author of that thread is Zikronix. Any of those three methods will give you permanent root.

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