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I noticed something about the battery meter.
If you power on your phone when the charger is plugged in, the battery meter shows a higher value.
If you power on your phone when no charger is connected, the battery meter shows a lower value.
And these values stay for as long as your phone is not rebooted. My guess is, the value without charger plugged in (lower value) is more accurate.
So, if you want to make your battery meter more accurate, try this:
- Disconnect your phone from the charger
- Power off the phone
- Power on the phone again (phone must be disconnected from charger)
- After phone has booted into Android, plug the phone into USB/charger to charge it again
If you could try this out and see if the observation is always true, then maybe we should make this procedure standard to get a more accurate battery meter reading.
So this may have caused the fact that my phone keeps telling me, while charging, the battery is fully charged however it says 95% as soons as its unplugged
Power off the phone and connect charger while it's off, wait for the 100% sign on the fully green battery, then unplug the cord and connect it again, you can do this a couple of times. And resetting the battery stats should also help in some way.
opica said:
Power off the phone and connect charger while it's off, wait for the 100% sign on the fully green battery, then unplug the cord and connect it again, you can do this a couple of times. And resetting the battery stats should also help in some way.
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What I'm suggesting is a bit different.
Power off phone.
Power on phone again, without plugging anything in.
After phone has booted, plug in charger.
EDIT: I notice this difference in battery meter reading tends to happen only with the *real* charger, and not when connect to a USB port on a PC.
That is right hardcore. This also refers to post-flashing boot.
I always disconnect device as soon as flashing procedure completes.
hardcore said:
I noticed something about the battery meter.
If you power on your phone when the USB charger/cable is plugged in, the battery meter shows a higher value.
If you power on your phone when no USB charger/cable is connected, the battery meter shows a lower value.
And these values stay for as long as your phone is not rebooted. My guess is, the value without USB plugged in (lower value) is more accurate.
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Hey,
Heres whats happening:
Lithium-ion batteries dont like it when you charge them while full. It wears them down. So to preserve batterylife it charges untill full, then stops charging completely. When it droppes down to far, it'll charge again for a bit. The phone will show full, in reality it'll be a little less. When you unplug it will drop down quickly to a more precise value. Bump-charging (disconnect, reconnect charger) works, however you are wearing the batterylife down. Could be you dont care, so it'll be youre own choice.
Older phones do not do this. They charge till full, then trickle power continuesly so it'll always be full when disconnected.
Hope this helps.
weirder said:
Hey,
Heres whats happening:
Lithium-ion batteries dont like it when you charge them while full. It wears them down. So to preserve batterylife it charges untill full, then stops charging completely. When it droppes down to far, it'll charge again for a bit. The phone will show full, in reality it'll be a little less. When you unplug it will drop down quickly to a more precise value. Bump-charging (disconnect, reconnect charger) works, however you are wearing the batterylife down. Could be you dont care, so it'll be youre own choice.
Older phones do not do this. They charge till full, then trickle power continuesly so it'll always be full when disconnected.
Hope this helps.
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I'm not talking about the usual Li-ion full-charge effects. Also it may not be true that other phones don't do this. For sure, many laptops do this - after the battery charges to 100%, they won't charge the battery until it decreases to a certain level, say 95%.
I'm referring to the difference in battery meter reading if u boot the phone while connected to the wall charger, vs booting the phone when it's disconnected from the charger.
What you say is right, I am used to power OFF my phone & charge it at night, & when I get up, switch it ON while still plugged in. I must make it a point to remove the cable before I switch ON.
I noticed this many months ago and it persists even after flashing many different firmwares. It actually comes in handy some times. For instance when my battery is running low and i need to step out i simply plug in the charger, power off then power back on. Phone instantly jumps 30% or so. But generally i tend to power on without the charger attached so as not to stuff up the battery stats.
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Anyway this behavior is not correct.
Samsung changed recently battery drivers in JPX sources and the problem is still persistent. I suspect it might be related to wrong battery voltage measuring point (hardware design flaw? although most problems with sgs are/were software related) or result misinterpretation.
Or their Q/A team is so clueless that they didnt notice that.
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EDIT: I notice this difference in battery meter reading tends to happen only with the *real* charger, and not when connect to a USB port on a PC.
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I just tested this. 5% battery. Reboot with usb plugged in. 50%battery. The battery also seems to drain really fast after the reboot.
I am plugged in using original usb cable in a usb on the front panel of my pc...
Edit: im still plugged in and it's going down... i boot with usb at 50% leave it in and while charging the battery goes down... i left it in and now it's going 49...48...47 while charging... wtf lol
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Lightarrow said:
I just tested this. 5% battery. Reboot with usb plugged in. 50%battery. The battery also seems to drain really fast after the reboot.
I am plugged in using original usb cable in a usb on the front panel of my pc...
Edit: im still plugged in and it's going down... i boot with usb at 50% leave it in and while charging the battery goes down... i left it in and now it's going 49...48...47 while charging... wtf lol
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My guess is this is because the actual level of the battery is 5%, and 'cause it's plugged in it's saying 50% for some strange reason. So really you're charging from 5% up to 50% (and eventually more, but that aside), and I think the phone is averaging between your actual battery level and the 50% every time you go up 1%? Just my guess.
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My guess is this is because the actual level of the battery is 5%, and cause it's plugged in it's saying 50% for some strange reason. So really you're charging from 5% up to 50% (and eventually more, but that aside), and I think the phone is averaging between you're actual battery level and the 50% every time you go up 1%? Just my guess.
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Yeay that is what im thinking too weird stuff.
@hardcore : just tried your suggestion. I shut down with the cable plugged in. Remove it. Reboot. But my battery is still at 47... ill try to go into cwm to see if that triggers something. Or maybe remove the battery and insert it again...
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Ok. I tried this : removed my battery, waited 5 seconds, reput my battery, reboot all with charger unplugged. Battery went from 47 to 52. So this had no effect.
Then i shut down the phone, used 3br to get into recovery (cwm) did nothing except select reboot phone now and the phone rebooted, now 12% battery.
Btw using all tweaks in your kernel except tun.
Weird stuff...
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noticed this months back too but didnt think much about it.
i just figured the software is reading the higher voltage during charge and reporting it wrong during boot.
*could be wrong
EDIT: and the diff is quite big, increase of 20-30%
hardcore said:
What I'm suggesting is a bit different.
Power off phone.
Power on phone again, without plugging anything in.
After phone has booted, plug in charger.
EDIT: I notice this difference in battery meter reading tends to happen only with the *real* charger, and not when connect to a USB port on a PC.
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what @weirder post is the true fact about the lithium ion charge process. your charging method is called bump charging. but that way of charging the juice wear off the battery life sooner than normal charging..
I've been checking out the battery meter source code, and I think the battery level is calculated *only* from the battery voltage. Which is quite inaccurate, compared to laptop batteries which keep track of the charge, etc.
hardcore said:
I've been checking out the battery meter source code, and I think the battery level is calculated *only* from the battery voltage. Which is quite inaccurate, compared to laptop batteries which keep track of the charge, etc.
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This could be improved by using its temperature. Since the SoC is a function of temperature, charge history, and current evolution over the time.
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I tried the bump charging till the meter says 100% and right after unplugging from the charger the meter reads 98%. I let the battery drain up to 96% and connected my phone into a usb port of my PC and when the meter say its 100% charged, i disconnected the phone from the usb port and wallah...it stays at 100% charged and it has been at 100% even after 15 minutes...
I really don't recommend bump charging. You risk damaging your battery by overcharging. Or worse, making it blow up due to overcharging! I know it sounds paranoid but you never know...
-I am/was running CM7 7.1.0
-Tiamat 4.1.0
My evo worked fine for about a month on CM7.1.0, but recently stopped charging. I would plug it into the wall charger and go to bed, only to find it either
A) At 53% charge
B) Completely dead
C) Fully charged (rarely)
So I flashed to nightly 255 with stock kernel and am still having the issue.
I used V6 supercharger at one point, but about a month before I began having issues.
Have you tried charging it while it was powered down?
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Yes. It's hard to tell if it actually does anything though as my phone won't display accurate battery percentage when I do.
It'll be 53%, I'll turn the phone off and back on, and it will show 78% or some random percentage. Then I'll reboot again and it'll show yet another percentage.
Hazelfoot said:
Yes. It's hard to tell if it actually does anything though as my phone won't display accurate battery percentage when I do.
It'll be 53%, I'll turn the phone off and back on, and it will show 78% or some random percentage. Then I'll reboot again and it'll show yet another percentage.
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Ok I want you to try this
Power the phone COMPLETELY OFF
Plug it in
The orange light should turn on
Charge it like that over night
And see if it's green in the morning
If its not try installing the ROM from scratch (fresh install)
If it still doesnt charge after that then you have 1 of 3 things or both
1. Bad Battery (Possible but not likely)
2. Bad Charge Port (Possible but lets hope not)
3. Bad Charger (Highly doubt it but its happen to me)
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I powered off and charged it with my computers USB instead of the wall charger and it worked.
I'll charge it with my USB while on next time to see if its just my wall charger. Thanks.
Hazelfoot said:
I powered off and charged it with my computers USB instead of the wall charger and it worked.
I'll charge it with my USB while on next time to see if its just my wall charger. Thanks.
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No problem charge it like that again and then go into recovery and wipe battery stats it'll calibrate your battery again cuz its gonna have some pretty bad stats now that you went from a minimal to a minimal and then to a maxxed out battery
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Charge it up to 100% and boot into recovery while it's still on charger. Wipe battery stats and reboot. Remove charger.
Go TrevE !!!
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Charge it up to 100% and boot into recovery while it's still on charger. Wipe battery stats and reboot. Remove charger.
Go TrevE !!!
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Thanks for the backup P!
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So my s2 has been charging really slow, like today it took like 5 hours to fully charge, and when connected to charger if I'm using it it wont charge very well, like the battery will stay at lets say 20% when im using it and charging it, it might even go down more. it used to charge pretty well even if I was on it. Cuz this be the charger, or is my battery messed up?? Im using the charger that came with the phone.
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Are you charging through a usb port on your computer or ac? If it is with usb port then yes it will charge at a much slower rate. Also if you have a lot of apps running or backround data going it will also cause your charging to slow down some. I would say through usb without any apps open and backround data stopped It would take a few hours to charge say from 20%. Through AC in the same condition probly 1.5 hours. Try to reboot your phone and then plug it in to charge to see if that doesnt speed it up any. If it does then you know you have backround data moving at a fast rate and that would be your reason to slow the charge down.
Yeah I'm charging with the wall charger, not thru usb
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thats pretty weird...have you tried using another usb cable?? maybe the cable is faulty?
Calibrating the battery
elflip88 said:
So my s2 has been charging really slow, like today it took like 5 hours to fully charge, and when connected to charger if I'm using it it wont charge very well, like the battery will stay at lets say 20% when im using it and charging it, it might even go down more. it used to charge pretty well even if I was on it. Cuz this be the charger, or is my battery messed up?? Im using the charger that came with the phone.
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You could try calibrating the battery, maybe. To do that, turn the phone off. Charge to full (make sure it's full, by taking it off of the charger and putting it back on...the indicator should read 100% almost immediately when reattached to power).
When the battery is full, with the phone still turned off, remove the battery for about 2 minutes. After 2 minutes, reinsert battery and restart phone.
Battery will be calibrated. This may not resolve the problem of a slow charge, but will clear 'battery memory' which may have been preventing it from charging completely (and, I suspect, may have inhibited charging).
Good luck!
I was using an aftermarket wall charger and had similar results. Switched to the USB/AC converter that came with the phone and all was well.
sean is here. said:
You could try calibrating the battery, maybe. To do that, turn the phone off. Charge to full (make sure it's full, by taking it off of the charger and putting it back on...the indicator should read 100% almost immediately when reattached to power).
When the battery is full, with the phone still turned off, remove the battery for about 2 minutes. After 2 minutes, reinsert battery and restart phone.
Battery will be calibrated. This may not resolve the problem of a slow charge, but will clear 'battery memory' which may have been preventing it from charging completely (and, I suspect, may have inhibited charging).
Good luck!
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Yes, try Battery Calibration from the market. Only works on rooted devices, and follow instructions.
Battery Calibration
abctilly said:
Yes, try Battery Calibration from the market. Only works on rooted devices, and follow instructions.
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Actually, one doesn't need an app to calibrate the battery. If you follow the instructions above, the app is unnecessary. And the phone mustn't be rooted
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Hey elflip88, have you found the issue yet?
I have the same problem on my HTC Amaze 4G. It's charging 1% every 3 minutes (adds up to 5 hours)
I'm also using the wall charger...oh damn, I'm starting to think I have a faulty device / battery...
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For the record Samsung devices are known to be slow at charging so with that considered.... You still shouldn't be at 5 hrs. I would find a battery stats app charge your battery over night and check the chart to see exactly how long it takes to go from 0 - 100. Make sure your batter status is good. Also check the voltage coming into your phone from your charger. There are plenty of battery stat apps in the market that will do this sort of thing. Of course make sure your battery doesn't have water damage of course too lol.
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I've had the same problem with mine. But, I can get 1.5 days without charging and moderate usage. Charge it up, drain it, charge it back up then wipe your battery stats in recovery.
This may help if you're using an aftermarket wall charger
If you guys are having issues with slow charging using an aftermarket wall charger, it could be that the phone is charging in a USB state rather than an AC charging state. QuickCharge could alleviate your issues. The cable is inserted between the wall charger and the USB cable that goes to your phone. You can find the product on Amazon. It's the 2nd of 3rd item from the top when you search 'QuickCharge'.
I find that when I fully drain my battery and charge it, it's really slow. Once the phone has enough battery to stay on, I unplugged it and replugged it and it charges normal again.
elflip88 said:
So my s2 has been charging really slow, like today it took like 5 hours to fully charge, and when connected to charger if I'm using it it wont charge very well, like the battery will stay at lets say 20% when im using it and charging it, it might even go down more. it used to charge pretty well even if I was on it. Cuz this be the charger, or is my battery messed up?? Im using the charger that came with the phone.
Sent from Flip's SGS2
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It's your wifi and your apps using wifi. Turn wifi off while charging. I used to charge 4 hours + on my S2. Reduced to 2 and some change when I turn off wifi.
Also, I struggle to make it through a working day with wifi on. Turn wifi off and I can do 4 days no problem.
audscott said:
I was using an aftermarket wall charger and had similar results. Switched to the USB/AC converter that came with the phone and all was well.
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I've had the same problems using an aftermarket wall charger.
I old suggest using a different outlet if you haven't done that yet.
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What? Wifi (while connected) users significantly less power than 3g or HSPA+ (4G) data..
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i had that issue once, it had to do with my ROM i imagne... i flashed a new one and i havent had a problem ever since.
i m using this wall charge and use this battery... it is working fine and no problem at all
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anker-Battery-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-from-T-mobile-
http://www.cellphoneshop.net/hdw179...ccessories&hash=item4ab527cf3b#ht_2001wt_1396
Here is a pic of what happened to me. Lately the phone shuts off whrn it gets ecen remotely hot, i can barely feel it getting hot when it shuts down. After that sometimes it wont reboot because the battery has drained and when I plug it in it shows a battery with a yellow triangle. Another thing is that my phone or battery has killed two different chargers and it seems now the only way to charge my phone is through a usb cable either connected to the wall or to my computer.
So which is it, my phone or my battery that is bad?
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As I recall, if the battery is drained and shows the triangle, it just means it's too "dead" to power on.
Hmm, that's strange. Were they Samsung Chargers or generic ones?
Maybe it's a certain ROM or something you are using?
Mark.J.Linskiy said:
As I recall, if the battery is drained and shows the triangle, it just means it's too "dead" to power on.
Hmm, that's strange. Were they Samsung Chargers or generic ones?
Maybe it's a certain ROM or something you are using?
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The first charger was the OEM one that came with the phone. It died within 3 months of usage. The second charger was from an old motorola phone I had, my phone killed it almost instantly.
I was using Calk's latest ICS ROM so I decided to flash GB again using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394332
The phone doesn't seem to turn off now but the battery DRAINS while charging.
Something must really be wrong here.
Maybe the batterynis too hot if it is it wont charge pluz there is bug in ics its happen to me b4 that y i went back to l29
That's probably a failing battery. Mine drained while charging. Turnout to be a bad cable. I also had the wall adapter start to do that when it went out. Try a new charger and if that doesn't help it is probably a bad battery.
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battery and chargers must match check your spec sheet for the correct milli amperage also alot of batteries wont charge when the pack is hot replace battery and charger and wipe your battery stats
Hi
My 8 months old HOX will barly charge. It is like its using a lot of battery all the time. When connected to wall charger, the red LED lights. When I trying to turn it on, it has maby 2% battery, I have tried to let it charge for 8 hours, and 10 minutes, still the same. In the status bar, it shows the phone is charging, but wont gain any more battery. Im losing 100-200mAh, even when the phone is in stock wall charger. I have tried connecting to laptop, but there, I wont even get the phone on there. Early today, I got a warning, somthing about connecting to a battery eliminator.
Im using Battery Doctor to view the battery percentage, and Currentwidget to measure the current.
My phone is rooted, running Revolution ROM
Thanks