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hello guys,
i own a htc magic and i just got a desire for my brother ;( (yea i know, ill get my one soon though) and i want to root it and put a custom rom on it.
i just have a few general questions.
what stable rom would you recommend? which one is the most popular? and what recovery should i go for?
and another one should i go ahead and get a class 6 micro sd card or am i good with a class 2 one?
thank you.
ps apologies if it is in the wrong section.
class 2 will do, leedroid is a good stable sense rom, use unrevoked method for rooting, if ur ph is branded make a gold card. see the sticky in this forum called "complete guide to rooting"
Hi there!
It's been ages since i got my Desire, and I am still satisfied - Your Bro made a good choice .
For the recovery, I use Clockwork-MOD. Now, people have reported USB bricking when using the latest version (and I can attest to that, as it bricked me, and it is a pain in the arse to fix). However, the convenience of nandroid working from rom manager, and verification disabled by default make it worth the risk IMO. You would probably want to go for AmonRA-2.0.0 GSM which is feature packed and has not had reports about usb bricking. UnrEVOked will root and flash your recovery, but if that doesnt work, you can always use FASTBOOT. I recommend that you disable Security, and use AlphaREV to S-OFF the desire, as it will allow you to ues FASTBOOT and give you R/RW permissions in android.
In terms of the MicroSD card, I am using a Class 2, and have no troubles. the CLASS is only its minimum sustained write, some Class 2 cards exceed Class 6 cards, just luck of the draw.
Regarding a stable rom, you will get a billion and one different oppinions.
If you like Sense UI, I suggest AuraxTSense or LeeDroid (for the old version of Sense), or ReflexTSense or RCMixHD (for the new version of Sense - Sense HD).
Sense vs Sense HD: Both have different benefits. For example, HD roms have a more intuitive interface (in my opinion). However, in terms of performance, I find that the Old Sense roms are much smoother and reliable. Again, just my opinion. However, Sense Roms (both old and new) have less battery life than competing roms.
You then have CyanogenMOD type roms. These roms are built from the source, and are updated all the time. They have a very complete feature set, and have lots of users to help with. Oh, and Bluetooth HID works out of the box (it will not work on Sense Roms). Battery life is good too. However, the interface is not consistent, and some of the stock applications (such as the dialer, or the music app) have (in my opinion) a downright ugly look about them. But again, everything works very well, and they are very speedy roms.
Finally, you have (my recommendation) MIUI. MIUI is based on the Source (like CyanogenMOD, kinda), and adds a very very well implemented interface. The dialler, for example, is better than the Sense one, I recon. Prettier, lots of functionality (recording calls is two button presses away). Everything that works in CyanogenMOD roms works in MIUI (except the newest camera features and Bluetooth HID (but are workarounds for both)). MIUI comes stock with a brilliant music application, custom lockscreen (with music controls and spectrum vis), File manager, Contacts, Messaging and FM radio (the FM Radio that is found in CyanogenMOD based roms came from here).
So that is what i recon; MIUI is a great rom to start with. It has good battery life, it is one of the fastest type of rom on the block (faster than other roms build from the source, in some cases) and doesnt require you to install many applications to add functionality that you would expect it comes with.
Also , it is updated every friday (and translated version are usually released the same or the next day).
I use the Au-MIUI version (www.miui-au.com) created by S-Murpyh, who keeps a very well rounded release, and great support.
Just my opinions, though.
Josh.
thank you very much for the quick responses. for me sense is old, cyanogen im using on my magic which is great no doubt, but MIUI sounds tempting will check it out further.
thanks very much for the info and the description. ill be on my way now guess ill give MIUI rom a whirl.
sorry again about thread placement.
Oxygen if you can do without Sense apps. If Sense apps are a necessity, then you should go for Pays. IMHO...
Rom.
Hey man,
i guess the custom rom you want depends whether you like the classic android
froyo and it's speed, or the slightly more lagging, yet much more good looking,
htc sense. If you're opting for the latter, then i would suggest RCMix's HD rom for
speed and stability, but like i said, if you prefare the classic froyo UI then i would
personally recommend DeFroST-6.1, im currently using it and i've found it an
absolute dream.
Have fun whatever you opt for,
sam.
be forewarned... MIUI kind of taste like iPhone fever.
...but maybe thats just me.
Hi all, looking for some advice before i root my Z (it's feeling a bit sluggish, so want to OC it)
I use HTC locations alot for the offline navigation. Do the stock (ish) sense ROMs have HTC locations enabled/working?
Also do any sense ROM's sync properly with HTC sense. I have paid a subscription for voice guided navigation (which i assume authenticates using the HTC sense interface - correct me if im wrong). If i flash a sense ROM will my subscription still be active once i sync my HTC sense account?
Lastly... i know HTC is planning to release a gingerbread update by the end of June. Will the devs (god bless them) get a rooted version of this out with HTC locations and sense syncing working soon after release.
Thanks for your time and advice
You can root and overclock, and still stay on the stock ROM. You don't need to go to a custom ROM, unless that is what you are looking to do. I've used the Godspeed kernel with the stock 1.34 ROM with good results. Everything on the stock ROM remains intact, it just opens up the CPU clock options.
As far as your question on Locations working on custom ROMs, every custom ROM is different, so that is too vague a question. What ROM in particular are you looking at? I've tried Virtuous (which is "stockish" as you mentioned), and Locations works fine.
Access to the Sense account is via email address and your Sense password, so that should be easy to migrate (if you switch ROMs). I haven't had any issues going between ROMs and being able to login to my Sense account. I don't use the paid navigation. But I would think that is linked to your Sense account the same way.
As far as a rooted version of the upcoming Gingerbread (with Sense) update, you'll have to wait and see what happens (like everybody else!). A rooted version will probably be available. And everything working is pretty likely too, but we won't know what the developers will run into until it actually happens. I think you would need a crystal ball to be able to know any more than that.
Thanks mate. I should have poked around the dev section more before posting this. Looks like everything is working on Virtuous Sense
I want to install the Incredikernel since I hear is so good and I am running the OTA Unofficial Froyo 2.2 Rom from incredibleroms.com. I am rooted and everything. Can I install the Kernel? And how do I install it?
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start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
Much thanks to
chad0989
ithrewitontheground
Jacksonroh
cvbcbcmv
for untold amount of knowledge they have passed on
jcoddinc83 said:
start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
Much thanks to
chad0989
ithrewitontheground
Jacksonroh
cvbcbcmv
for untold amount of knowledge they have passed on
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Thats really good information. But how do i know weather I am running AOSP or SENSE? Like I said I have the OTA Unofficial 2.2 Froyo Update, and I know AOSP means it started from scratch but I dont know wether the Rom i installed is, how can I figure this out through the phone or can you just tell me
It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!
k_nivesout said:
It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!
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Thanks so much man
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No problem. If I helped and you feel so inclined, feel free to hit the thanks button
Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?
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Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?
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Using Incredikernel; so far runs good.
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Alright can you help me locate a Rom of my liking?
I really like the Stock rom, but I want a AOSP Rom. I basically just want it to have the Stock HTC Launcher but I dont want it to be so slow for instance, for me Skyraider 4.2 is slow because it takes five times the length of time for it to Boot Up then using the Stock 2.2 unofficial OTA.
Is Binny Rom a AOSP rom? And I dont want to lose the 8MP camera or 720p HD Recordings.
Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.
k_nivesout said:
Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.
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I used the stock kernel for sky raider. I believe Sky Raiders is a sense rom isn't it?
And basically I want something that is stable with no foreclosures. With the stock rom I have never had a foreclose. Something that i can customize the look of easily I loved sky raider for that but then i want to a AOSP rom to have the liberty of messing around with my phone better. I really don't mind the hd recording I just want to keep my 8mp camera.
Also can't I install a launcher from the market to give me stock looks?
If u tell me sky raider is also then i will keep that one
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You're right, you can install a launcher from the market and should be able to find a sense-like theme for it if you want. I'd recommend making a backup of your current rom, then flash the latest cyanogenmod nightly. The nightlies have some newer features that the "stable" releases don't have, and they're just as stable, if not moreso. With CM7, you have a TON of options for themes and modifications, and its always been perfectly stable for me. Look around in the android themes section and search "CM7 theme" on the market to get an idea of all the ways it can be customized.
With CM7, you won't have 720p video recording, but the still camera can be used at full resolution. There are an unbelievable amount of features and tweaks that CM7 adds, I'd recommend looking through the wiki on their website and browsing the threads in the development section. If you don't like it, you can always restore your backup. It might be fun to check out some of the new gingerbread sense roms too, if you like the sense interface. Those roms aren't as stable or fast as CM7, or froyo sense roms (like skyraider), but can be fun to mess around with.
I have almost tested all the custom ROMs for Desire HD and came to a conclusion (my personal observation, and need not be true) that CM7.2 stable version is most fluid ROM for me. I have only one issue with this ROM that exchange mail does not support search function. and I have noticed that the present Jelly Bean mail APK is pretty good with lot of options. Is there a way to flash this over CM 7.2?
I have used K-9, Touchdown etc but do not like them. UI is pretty bad on both of them. Pls help. thanks.
I would say just nandroid and try it.
Hi guys,
I'm rooted and would like to enable tethering. I know about enabling Hotspot if you have your MSL. Are there any other ways as I don't have my MSL?
Now that I'm rooted are there any apps that can give me MSL number? The app I've used only seems to work for HTC devices.
best way is install custom rom..
sac23 note 5 port and hybrid 3.0 is best rom for me
vivrosh said:
best way is install custom rom..
sac23 note 5 port and hybrid 3.0 is best rom for me
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Right now I'm running the 100% Stock ROM that doesn't have Knox and Itson. Reason why I decided to stick to Stock is because I really don't want to deal with the quirks and issues that custom ROMS bring. Plus there are sooooo many ROMs in the development section it's tough to chose one when you're a newbie.
Any particular reason why you chose that ROM over others? And do you have any issues whatsoever with it?
Anyone have a way of getting my MSL number myself, now that I'm rooted, without the need of having to contact provider?
Roms should list it that the hotspot is activated for use. CM12.1 has it. But im haveyingbattery drain issues lately with that.. So Im also looking for a new stable custom rom
I definitely want to stay away from custom ROMS. Too buggy, specifically AOSP ROMS. That's all i used before and so I'm very familiar with all their quirks and mishaps.
If i can find a custom ROM (or if you can recommend one) that has everything working (like stock ROMS do ) I'll jump ship immediately. Until then, I'll take stock and stability day.
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Aosp are not buggy. Cyanogen is really good. I'm running nightlies.
Definitely Hybrid. Very close to stock with minor changes, including addition of hotspot. Very stable, really no issues. Just make sure you chose Hybrid and not the Hybrid X version which is more modded. They're both in the same thread in Android Development
Cyanogen mod has no bugs. Just no finger print support but that should be coming soon specially with cm13 coming down the pipe. The night builds are great you just have to activate your network within the ROM when you first start. But my phone doesn't crash no force closes or anything. Battery isn't all that bad... I honestly think I was having calibration issues with my zero lemon .