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Pro's and Con's of custom roms

Can anybody provide some pro's and con's to using custom roms like LeeDroid etc.
I am not sure i want to use a custom rom or stick to a stock rom.

Pro: Speed (OCs, removed bloatware)
Customisability
A2SD
Root
Deodexed
Cool power menu
Cons: none, unless you can't get your phone's original RUU

IMO, if you're not sure you need a custom ROM, then you don't

waebi said:
IMO, if you're not sure you need a custom ROM, then you don't
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waebi said:
IMO, if you're not sure you need a custom ROM, then you don't
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that doesn't make any sense.

Custom ROM vs Stock ROM
It's a sensible theory: you don't need a custom rom if the stock rom provides everything you need. A further consideration to use a custom rom is more frequent updates and, perhaps important, faster updates to new Android versions (and 2.3 is comin' up).

I'm brand spanking new to Roms and Rooting. I was using DeFroST for the first few days. I found with it I was experiencing mms issues and Bluetooth connectivity issues. Moved over to CyanogenMod 6.0.2 and all my issues are now resolved. I have found that you should just experiment with new Roms (after making backups) and find one that suits you.
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there is no way that a rooted phone has cons, only con is the risk of bricking while doing it... but even then, just do unrevoked and it should work fine.
pros:
-customize basically everything if you know what you're doing
-better battery life in some cases
-faster, smoother, depending on rom
-apps2sd+, all the free space on your phone as you want!
cons
- some roms dont have sense
- a lot of roms still have glitches with the camera... although the stock one isnt that great either.
- possibility of bricking if you're retarded during the unrevoking process.

I personally have rooted my device to get away from sense. I have found that the RaM is a lot less using a senseless Tom?
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I'm also worried about getting custom roms because I.have heard cases about custom roms having force closes with google applications like Gmail and market and also wont work well with some of the games out there.
Is that true?
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bryant_16 said:
I'm also worried about getting custom roms because I.have heard cases about custom roms having force closes with google applications like Gmail and market and also wont work well with some of the games out there.
Is that true?
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That can be the case in early releases of 'cutting edge' stuff - usually very quickly worked out though. As you can see in my sig, I'm running a ROM not even designed for my device. First couple of releases were a bit flaky, but this one is rock solid - as good a stock.

I see. What roms you using? I cant see your signature.
Reason for me saying that is because I see popular roms such as opendesire and etc still having problems with it. Like force closes and stuffs like that.
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bryant_16 said:
I see. What roms you using? I cant see your signature.
Reason for me saying that is because I see popular roms such as opendesire and etc still having problems with it. Like force closes and stuffs like that.
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Well, if you can live with a little bit of Sense, then use LeeDroid. So far, my personal favorite. DeFrost was fast and quite stable for me, but the occasional force close wasn't too flattering either.

Okay so i loaded LeeDroid onto my phone. I am not really seeing much benefit over my stock eclair rom.
Nice to have a few new settings which i can customize. But otherwise, maybe i am not such a techie that i am finding any benefit??
I am picking up that the phone stalls between doing some tasks which is a con.

Stock Good or would rom be better?

I really dont know If I want to run complete stock or run a rom. I don't like themes unless it was on a HTC phone with sense , but I like pure stock. Is having a rom will I get better performance cause ive ran AnTuTU & and Quadrant and seem to get better results by a little but I know people say not to go by benchmarks. I just want the best Performance and reliability.

Best performance is still subjective without narrowing in on a certain aspect. In the end it all comes down to your perspective of what works best for you in your usage patterns.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
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You could try ARHD. It's completely stock look, just changes "under the hood", if you will. Or you could remain with Stock, nothing wrong with that.

Well I do see a benchmark increase when using a ROM but im not sure to belaive it or not. I`m not sure ive been going back in foruth for almost a week now:laugh: I just wanna have something to leave on there lol.
I was using Omega but I dont like the its currently using a leaked 4.1.2 instead of offical 4.1.1

Most of the roms in the rom section are all 4.1.2 anyway. So you would have to be on that firmware if you flash a custom rom.
A little bit of my history. I've flashed a lot of custom roms for this phone and I've always found that I always revert back to stock rom. It's the most stable and battery efficient. There's always a problem with some app which I use which doesn't work when I used a custom rom.
So I gave up and just stuck to stock rom.
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II

AjunNg said:
Most of the roms in the rom section are all 4.1.2 anyway. So you would have to be on that firmware if you flash a custom rom.
A little bit of my history. I've flashed a lot of custom roms for this phone and I've always found that I always revert back to stock rom. It's the most stable and battery efficient. There's always a problem with some app which I use which doesn't work when I used a custom rom.
So I gave up and just stuck to stock rom.
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II
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Sounds like me!!!! Ive used odin a million times since 2010 haha. I got my first android coming from blackberry in 2010 then in dec 2010 I got the first galaxy s and thats when the flashing started but I kept going back to stock. Whats the best base or stock rom? Im currently on the oct germany stock rom.
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Which stock rom would be best?
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I have this device for about 2 weeks. Almost flashing everyday from custom to stock and vice versa. Now I am back at Stock Rom and just enjoying the device.

It's better to be in Stock ROM I think when you use a smartphone like Note 2. Stock ROM comes with proper functions that can utilize the hardware properly, specially that S Pen. It's just 7 day I have this device and I tried few ROM but back to stock now.

I rooted my phone with plans to use a custom rom, but after researching the different roms, though they add cool features, they always seem to break something else on your phone, and it seems like you have to spend a lot of time researching, downloading different fixes, just fiddling around with your phone. So I decided not to go that route and just wait for the official ATT updates.

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Which stock rom would be best?
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Where are two kinds of ROM for Note: one is based on AOSP (open sources) like CM10, and second – on Samsung sources (aka touchwiz or tw). First one is still a little buggy and don’t have proprietary software like exFat, S-Pen and so on.
ROM based on Samsung sources usually as stable as a stock rom and have all Samsung features.
Most popular are Android Revolution HD & Omega. Also a Hypernote is good, if you want clean installation and 280dpi for more screen real estate.
It is also worth looking at MIUI ROM – today it officially released for Note2 and (as I suggest) based on Samsung ROM.

I know what cm10 is and such I ran it on older phones I couldnt bare cm on the note though. I wad meaning which stock rom is better to use under the stock rom thread? Im on th4 germsny one
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I think the Stock rom is a fantastic rom.
I don't root or anything. This phone FLIES by itself, it also offers very good stability. I don't have any crashes whatsoever from the system itself. If it does crash, it's the APP. (ejem ejem... CHROME!) But I don't have issues with the stock ANYTHING. Great phone. I can get more than a full day of use, or 4-5 hours of screen time with regular usage (not downloading torrents or anything like that over 3G. I mean with regular usage, email, chat, FB, some pictures, browsing the web etc etc).

Yea im prob gonna run stock plus root and kernal. But whats the best stock rom to odin? What do you all use?
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What stock rom base is the best? I was thinking of using N7100XXALJ3_N7100OXXALJ4

Rom suggestions for a significant other?

Greetings everyone.
I would like to root and install a new ROM on my girlfriend's Incredible 2. Now normally I would experiment myself but since it is not my own phone I will not have the opportunity to go flash crazy and try everything. As such I would like to get some recommendations. The main thing would be speed and stability. I do not know what she has done to her phone I just know that it is stock something. I am also unsure of what root method to use but that is simply due to the fact that I haven't been able to check anything yet. I just want to get some groundwork done before I jump in. She is always using her phone so I figured it would be nice to make her experience more enjoyable. Thanks in advance!
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There wouldn't be something as beast as the Decks reloaded ROM on the Evo would there? That is essentially what I would like to flash for her. Something ridiculously stable that has all the tweaks that I would need to add in. If not just let me know what the most stable rom is and what tweaks I should include as I flash for the lady.

for a good overview of available roms, kernels, radios, tweaks, and s-off guides you might start here
I think you're going to have to use the tacoroot method. that's what I did and I had the most current verizon updates. I just flashed chilly beans pd rom last night and it seems great. incredibly paranoid android I hope that helps

I love paranood but all the tweaks may overwhelm her. Dkstunnas global cm9 ROM has everything working and is fast, viper ROM is the best sense ROM in my opinion, and I also love gingerbread miui. Tazz patriot and macrodroid also have a nice sense 3.6 ROM named Arctic ascension, which is a little faster than venom but maybe less visually awe inspiring, I also made a descended version of that ROM but it is extremely stripped down (made for speed). All the ROMs I mentioned are completely functional and stable, except paranoid, which the newest version doesn't have a working front facing camera, but watch it, I'm sure chilly will get it worked out, he's a good dev, hope I've given you a small idea of what some of my picks are like...
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Jasonp0 said:
for a good overview of available roms, kernels, radios, tweaks, and s-off guides you might start here
I think you're going to have to use the tacoroot method. that's what I did and I had the most current verizon updates. I just flashed chilly beans pd rom last night and it seems great. incredibly paranoid android I hope that helps
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Kinda outdate post you linked but still a good start ...maybe some one should up date it one day lol
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Are you doing this for her or for you? Does she want it rooted? If not, leave it be. If she is happy with it then adhere to the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" line if thinking. If she does want it rooted, which type of rom does she want? Does she like sense and prefer not to have to learn her way around a new type of os? If so, skyraider Zeus is really good. Also, nits has some good gb sense roms. If she wants to try something new cm7 is fast and stable. As Jeremy said, gingerbread miui is great, just be careful with themes. Always backup before changing themes as some of them will lock your phone up and force you to restore a back up. It isn't common but I found several that did it. If she wants everything working with no bugs or random restarts, stay away from ics/jb at least until (if) we get source. If she is daring and can work through those issues without freaking out, the ones Jeremy mentioned are sweet. Pacman is one of my favorite roms ever, I just had some bugs that pushed me away for now. And they may be more phone related than rom. Hope that helps.
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Thanks everyone. From my browsing of this forum i think I will just let her pick between skyraider zeus, team venom, magnolia and Gingerbread miui.
I believe these roms to have a good balance from my quick skimming.
Are these the correct links?
http://www.teambamf.net/topic/1737-romgb-skyraider-zeus-13-inc2-update-11222011/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383848&highlight=search+this+forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953899
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162835&highlight=gingerbread+miui

For OP, concur with what others above already said ... search for both speed & stability involved compromises in balancing out on a rooted custom ROM since you are on XDA searching ...
1. There are 2 stock Sense Rom based on VZW's OTA releases, one by AndyBones with additional tweaks/add-ons and a newer one by CS, stripped of bloatware (she isn't going to mess with NFL or CityKids ID, yada yada) Put TB on it and update Play Store, etc. and once it's done updating the Apps, you are good to go - both maintained full GSM functionality and if you get it unlocked officially by Big Red, you can truely made it a global phone, insert a local prepaid Sim card & have inexpensive voice calling rates everywhere instead of using its partner's Vodafone Sim.
2. Next up is the Nit's Stock Sense v5.0.m-ext4, that's highly finished & polished, everything works with numerous options and it is equal to SkyRaider's Zeus v1.3 rom, both can be overclocked for speed in trading off some battery life - still going to give you a full 20 to 30 hours day of heavy use depending on Apps running, and in the case of DW's identical DI2 running SR Zeus, typically 3+ full days of standby with minimal voice calling/SMS and little or no 3G/WiFi browsing. Installed SRZ on her's since it was released 15 months ago and trouble-free, never froze and zero maintenance. I run between Stock Sense v5 and SRZ and still indecisive, switching every so often - especially when I'm traveling as I use GSM bands for non-US local calling, no re-programming or *#*# codes or menu to cycle thru. I keep copies of CWM's backup on the devices and in cloud storage in case of restoration, but it's been good. Update the kernels and to the newer radios once it's running, and you have a trouble-free device, set-n-forget - switched to a smaller (4 x 1) widget for the clock & weather display on the homescreen and I'm happy.
BTW, I have the newest Google Apps like Currents, Play Book & Play Magazine, etc. running on these Roms - when I don't have my true tablet, the Nexus 7 running JB 4.1.2 with me.
3. CM7's is good, simple & fast and good for changing things, haven't "play" with CM9 global ones lately - apparently most of the issues with camera, bluetooth & minor bugs are smoothly out. Tazz/MD's Sense 3.6 ROM is newer and is functional and refreshing - battery life isn't as good as older GB roms, as I recall. Be prepared for minimal tech support for you loved ones.
4. Nit's masterpiece, Team V's Viper Rom is the newest/hottest and best preview of JB/4.x for the DI2, I like it - TB restore from older GB and other roms might or might not work, depending on the Apps, it's best to do a fresh & clean install after full/deep wipe first. If it wasn't for the exclusive CDMA only or GSM only Rom , set by the initial Aroma installation & somewhat "fair" battery life - I would probably use it as my daily. Once (a big IF) HTC & VZW release kernel sources/codes or rollout ICS updates - serious development will resume as everything is now ported over from other/leaked sources. Paranoid's Rom by Chilly looks good, developer's work with the Nexus 7 set a benchmark that's not easy for others to follow/exceed - I haven't check it out myself but I'm sure it's excellent.

Thanks for the heads up! She has been complaining about how slow her phone seems to be lately so I figured it was a good excuse to root. I didn't see your post until just now, but those rom suggestions seem great! When I did show her a couple of screens she liked the look of MIUI best. Is the link I posted earlier a stable enough version for her? Or should I be looking at a different thread?

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Thanks for the heads up! She has been complaining about how slow her phone seems to be lately so I figured it was a good excuse to root. I didn't see your post until just now, but those rom suggestions seem great! When I did show her a couple of screens she liked the look of MIUI best. Is the link I posted earlier a stable enough version for her? Or should I be looking at a different thread?
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Miui variants has been around for a long time - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830675 - I haven't flashed or use one lately since the HTC Eris days, LOL but from the thread posts, it looks good enough for me, if you like it - go for it. Just backup always and if ... just restore or flash a different one, go back-n-forth - trials and errors work for me all the time (well, almost.) Enjoy.

The most stable miui is the gb 1.12.9. I think that is the right number. If you are using clockwork mode go into Rom manager and download it. There are 2, the other is 1.30.9 it something like that. Most people say that one wasn't as stable as the previous build. If you use the gb Rom get Aero's .7 kernel. A lot of people like the ics build but it may have stability issues that someone not wanting to wipe cache or go through fixes would want to deal with.
Maybe it's 1.12.9 and 1.12.30, I don't remember for sure, but you don't want the one with 30 in the number.
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for a quick rom you should really try INCREDIBLY('<PARANOID2.19.10
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for a quick rom you should really try INCREDIBLY('<PARANOID2.19.10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049902
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Not for someone who doesn't want to troubleshoot periodically.
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MRom
Seriously stable cm
It's gb has great battery life (I can go over 2 days with mild usage (tablet does most of my home android stuff and almost all my gaming )
Theme able which is great for customizing it for non nerd users
Plus it's about the only non stock based rom that has rotating lights
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[Q] Most stable rom for the S3?

Ok, after trying a bunch of the cool roms on the board, I've decided to install something and forget about it. Been looking for a nicely tweaked and trimmed down version of the stock rom but can't find anything. The problem is, all of the ones I've tried have some kind of an annoying bug or missing functionality, that ends up being more annoying than it's worth. I dislike the TW launcher, but I guess it's a good trade off for a stable working phone. If there's a themed stock rom (all of touchwiz functionality) minus the kiddie icons, please let me know. I'm using the LiquidSmooth 2.5 official now, and I love this rom, but it has a few too many bugs that are very irritating. For example, the camera is junk. Can't focus if it's life depends on it. I keep getting all kinds of artifacts on screen when unlocking the phone, MMS doesn't work half the time and so on. An ideal rom would be something that looks like LS but functions like stock TW but I guess that's impossible.
So please recommend me a stock based rom. Even if it's just stock rooted with the bloatware removed it would be fine. Thank you so much for your time.
Edit: Forgot to add, phone is US AT&T

There is no most stable rom just stick with what works best for you. Not everyone has the same experience on a rom. This thread is going to be locked.

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There is no most stable rom just stick with what works best for you. Not everyone has the same experience on a rom. This thread is going to be locked.
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Thanks for reading past the title.

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Thanks for reading past the title.
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Every ROM is going to have bugs, or things that dont work out.
thats why there is nighty releases of roms, to get most bugs worked out.
Theyre never going to be bug free because of the constant updates and features being added.
only true bug free is Touchwiz.
like the user above you said, you need too look for something that is stable for YOU.
a search would of let you figure this out, a search would of also pointed in the right direction on where to post questions.
this thread needs to be closed.

XDA is a site for development and what is best (stable) for one is not necessarily best for another, users need to test and read and learn on their own.

[Q] Which Rom should I select?

Im only partially familiar with roms and flashing(used to flash optimus V until I upgraded to a phone with no devs working on it XD ), I was fairly familiar with a cyanogenmod port for my op-V and liked that.
Anyways more specifically im not familiar with any of the devs or their products and was wondering which rom will give me the most preformace and lowest battery drain?
or is it too soon in the nexus 7's life to determine this kinda thing?
should I just stick with stock for now?
also if you have any words of advice or such so a new nexus 7, I'd love to here em.

just flash every rom out there and decide which ever is the "best" for you then stay with it .

What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.

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What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Options and features.... for example Cyanogenmod has a ton of features that the original ROM doesn't have. Also speed sometimes dictates switching roms. Alot of custom roms are striped down and are faster also.

dkb218 said:
What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Not about fixing, but improving
Paranoid Android is fast becoming a personal favorite. Tablet UI is how things ought to be. It's very easy to make a backup image, backup apps, and just start flashing. Now's a good time to start, too, as it's early and the selection is fairly limited. It will only grow from here..

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Not about fixing, but improving
Paranoid Android is fast becoming a personal favorite. Tablet UI is how things ought to be. It's very easy to make a backup image, backup apps, and just start flashing. Now's a good time to start, too, as it's early and the selection is fairly limited. It will only grow from here..
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I agree with this its what I'm using too. I love tablet UI.
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if you like stock and want the ability to choose what you want, cleanrom is great
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Very true what you guys say, stock ROM is great and all but I love to see all the cool features people put out in their custom Roms.
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I flashed every ROM that was available, that after I backed-up my original stock ROM. It's the only way you'll find which one you like the most. My 2 best options are ParanoidAndroid 3 and CyanogenMod Kangs, but I love the stability and speed of latter. It's all about preferences, just read a lot of comments of what users say and that also can help you.
Update: I love too much the custom ROMS, the customizing and the utilities they add are just fantastic. That's why I never stay with a stock ROM.

CleanROM if you just want a basic ROM like stock without all the bloatware.
ParanoidAndroid if you want a ton of features to play around with. Some are buggy at the moment and performance won't be as good as it would be with CleanROM but I think it's worth it for the features.