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Hey guys and gals,
This is my first post and i need some help. Here's the story.
I rooted my phone a few weeks ago, everything went stunningly easy, and worked great. Clockworkmod recovery was installed (by unrevoked) at this time. While driving home I broke my phone's screen and had to get a replacement phone. Asurion had a phone to me within 18 hours (my word they're fast). I slapped the 16GB SD card from my first phone in and I was off and running.
So I have my new phone with my original 16GB SD card and set it up normally again. I wanted to wait a bit and get it set prior to rooting again. Tonight I rooted the phone with Unrevoked 3.21 as I did before. It went much faster than before. I now have S-Off but clockworkmod recovery is not on my hboot screen and recovery mode doesn't work at all. Just a black screen for about 15 seconds before loading into the OS.
Have I screwed up a one click root? I've tried a few things.
I used droid-life as a guide to help me root.
Phone Stats:
Droid Incredible
Asurion replacement
OS 2.2
radio 2.15.00.07.28
kernel 2.6.32.15-gb7b01d1
build 3.21.605.1 CL231334 release-keys
Although clockworkmod recovery isn't in Hboot the reflash tool still says "Recovery Image: ClockworkMod Recovery" on the bottom. I have tried renaming the clockworkmod folder on the SD card to see if it would create a new one, or boot into clockworkmod recovery after realizing the folder is not there.
I have also tried formatting my SD card and running the reflash tool again. Again no dice, no recovery mode.
I have tried unrevoked 3.21 after every change.
What have I done? what do I do? any suggestions?
Thanks for anybody and everybody's input. I appreciate it. I would like to start flashing roms but really dont want to mess with it if I dont have a recovery option.
-MOJO
Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Try redownloading unrevoked and run it again. Do you have root and Superuser app at least? If so, try downloading and running ROM Manager and tell it to flash Clockwork again. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery. And for the record, which screen do you have?
I wish I knew
PonsAsinorem said:
And for the record, which screen do you have?
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thanks for the quick reply I will try that. Yes I have root and the superuser app.
I dont know how to tell which screen I have, but I was wondering the same thing. BoyGeniusReport says its incredibly hard to tell the difference and I haven't found were it says SLED vs AMOLED
Grrrr
PonsAsinorem said:
Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery.
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Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
RandomMOJO said:
Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
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It's an alternate recovery. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758874
It's also the second to the last option in ROM Manager. Flash Alternate Recovery: RA_GNM Recovery v1.7.6
I actually like that one better. It was able to format my SD card correctly. I just miss the integration with ROM Manager.
Phew... It worked.
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
RandomMOJO said:
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
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Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
Btw. Hboot only shows recovery, not clockwork recovery. Did you ever try selecting recovery from hboot?
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Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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Uncommon sense has some of it removed. Some of it you can remove yourself. It's the only rom I've donated to and had on my phone more than two days.
Just be careful if removing stuff. Some of it has other dependencies. There are guides on how to remove things safely without breaking other functionality.
Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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I used to use Virtuous 3.0.1, but I've switched over to Redemption ROM 2.0.5
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Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
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It is. In the main menu, just like Clockwork
So I definitely have recovery with the amon_RA 1.7.6 alternative recovery with the ROM manager. but from what I have read I can no longer use ROM manager to flash.
Now I have been searching for information/instructions on how to use AMON_RA but have come up short, at least recently written stuff. I can find a ton of information about clockworkmod which I assume is because of Unrevoked 3.21.
PonsAsinorem as you said you miss the integration of ROM manager. I really want to use ROM manager.
I read somewhere in XDA that people were having trouble using clockworkmod and ROM manager and it could be because of a corrupted cache. there were some LIMITED instructions about using ADB to fix it but I wasn't completely understanding them.
I think my problem is spawning from using my old SD card and maybe a corrupted cache. I have made a back up using Amon_RA (actually two).
Does anyone think that completely formatting my SD card (after moving my backups to my MAC) and factory restoring my phone. then reflashed using unrevoked 3.21, or reflashed clockworkmod recovery using rom manager would work to solve my problem with clockworkmod recovery?
I would have backups if it didn't work. I would just have to restore the Amon_RA backup if I screwed anything up or wanted my SD card back... Right?
Thanks for all the help so far.
MOJO
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
dirtpan said:
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
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Dirtpan. you're a lifesaver thanks for pointing me at this. saved clockwork for me. All this time, its because I have the new SLCD screen as opposed to the AMOLED screen.
For the record, my wife has an AMOLED screen and I an SLCD. I can see no discernible difference.
Thanks again everybody for the help.
MOJO
cans ome one tell me how to do it, i remeber trying a while back and it never worked, i mnight have made a mistake, i cant even find the threads for it, partially because i have a splitting headache and partially because it is so damn hot in my room i need to leave. please and thank you.
p.s. i did search for about 7 minutes, between the tempature and the fact that so much has the words clockwork and amon in it its just to much right now.
The easiest way is probably to download ROM Manager onto your phone. It may ask you to install ClockworkMOD again, but that's fine. Once that's done, scroll to the bottom of ROM Manager and select 'Flash Alternate Recovery' or something like that and that will install Amon_RA 1.8.0 onto your phone. Afterwards, you can remove ROM Manager since that only works with ClockworkMOD.
is there any noticable difference, and how will i know its done correctly i thought i tried this once...
mine says no alt. recovery available
Did ROM Manager ask you to flash ClockworkMOD again or no? At the very top of RM, you can try to install ClockworkMOD again and that might allow to you flash alternate recovery. Otherwise, here's the thread for Amon_RA 1.8.0.
[Recovery] [28-August-2010] RA-evo-v1.8.0
ICEReaction said:
Did ROM Manager ask you to flash ClockworkMOD again or no? At the very top of RM, you can try to install ClockworkMOD again and that might allow to you flash alternate recovery. Otherwise, here's the thread for Amon_RA 1.8.0.
[Recovery] [28-August-2010] RA-evo-v1.8.0
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im using the rom cm6.1.1 it had it on there already so no. however im going to restore to 6.1 because this rom is constantly rebooting itself and getting stuck in bootloops....****.
but yes ill let u no in a few minutes
i flahsed over to an old sense virus rom, i installed rom manager however it didnt ask to redownload clockwork, and i scrolled down to look at the flash alternative recovery, its still grey but this time it has amon ra 1.8 under it but still grey
Long story short:
Read up about losing wimax numbers or something if I only backup with clockwork, so I use Rom manager to switch to amon ra 1.8, every thing was fine showed the with under current recovery. So I entered recovery, well hboot screen? White screen options usb recovery reboot ect. Then I hit recovery like I have done before and it took me back to about the same screen maybe options rearranged. Tried a few times same result so rebooted all was fine and I figured I would switch back and try clockwork, no big dealer I would Google later. So I switched back, verifies in Rom manager under current recovery. Then I try again, same results. So rebooted and Google to no results finally decide to come here and hope for an answer. Before you ask I am fully rooted s-off double checked for the last few months, current Rom is Myn's warm rsl4 awesome Rom Myn's stuff is great and my phone is still working and running better then ever. This is a new problem nothing has changed except maybe a few games, nothing with root privilege or kernels, radios ect. I am on the latest (prior) to 3.7 radios and what not, this problem is much newer than any of my changes and I have backed up since then. Any help guys would be great, especially a solution where I don't need to redo my phone, I only planned on doing that for Myn's rsl5
New symptoms:
Can not backup with Rom manager, goes to bootloader and has the same outcome as the other attempts.
Updated Rom manager, it said new clockwork, tried to flash, came back with a error. Before I could switch from clockwork amon ra and back, now if my evo messes up or I need to update my Rom what do I do?
Spelling/grammar Nazi's please be kind, it is 4 something am and I am a stressed and tired mom
kpost said:
Long story short:
Read up about losing wimax numbers or something if I only backup with clockwork, so I use Rom manager to switch to amon ra 1.8, every thing was fine showed the with under current recovery. So I entered recovery, well hboot screen? White screen options usb recovery reboot ect. Then I hit recovery like I have done before and it took me back to about the same screen maybe options rearranged. Tried a few times same result so rebooted all was fine and I figured I would switch back and try clockwork, no big dealer I would Google later. So I switched back, verifies in Rom manager under current recovery. Then I try again, same results. So rebooted and Google to no results finally decide to come here and hope for an answer. Before you ask I am fully rooted s-off double checked for the last few months, current Rom is Myn's warm rsl4 awesome Rom Myn's stuff is great and my phone is still working and running better then ever. This is a new problem nothing has changed except maybe a few games, nothing with root privilege or kernels, radios ect. I am on the latest (prior) to 3.7 radios and what not, this problem is much newer than any of my changes and I have backed up since then. Any help guys would be great, especially a solution where I don't need to redo my phone, I only planned on doing that for Myn's rsl5
New symptoms:
Can not backup with Rom manager, goes to bootloader and has the same outcome as the other attempts.
Updated Rom manager, it said new clockwork, tried to flash, came back with a error. Before I could switch from clockwork amon ra and back, now if my evo messes up or I need to update my Rom what do I do?
Spelling/grammar Nazi's please be kind, it is 4 something am and I am a stressed and tired mom
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Not sure if you have tried this but it worked for me.. Uninstall rom manager completely and then re-install it.. flash clockwork first and then reboot into recovery from rom-manager.. if it loads.. reboot and go back into rom-manager and install amon-ra.. if it doesn't load reboot and flash amon-ra and try it that way... if that doesn't work and you're comfortable with fastboot or adb download amon-ra and follow the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Hope this helps :/
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Not sure if you have tried this but it worked for me.. Uninstall rom manager completely and then re-install it.. flash clockwork first and then reboot into recovery from rom-manager.. if it loads.. reboot and go back into rom-manager and install amon-ra.. if it doesn't load reboot and flash amon-ra and try it that way... if that doesn't work and you're comfortable with fastboot or adb download amon-ra and follow the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Hope this helps :/
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I can confirm that what zphotop did, worked for me too. I have had this problem a couple of times.
It worked, thank you guys so much
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I'm running CM7 with Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5. Im trying to flash the latest radio, so i need to flash back to a Clockworkmod 2.x.
But the thing is Rom manager already says my current recovery is 2.5.0.7. But when i actually reboot into recovery its definitely still 3.0.0.5. I've tried to flash all of the older versions of Clockworkmod available in Rom manager, and it says they flash correctly, and rom manager even reports that my clockworkmod version is the one i tried to flash. But when i reboot into recovery it hasnt changed.
Ive even tried to flash amon ra through rom manager and that did nothing.
I have "erase recovery" checked in settings. I tried to fix permissions. I've rebooted and even wiped data. Ive gone into market and uninstalled the updates to go back to rom manager 3.x but that didnt fix the problem. Ive wiped dalvik cache and that didnt work either.
Does anyone know what the problem is?
If not, does anyone have a link to a clockworkmod 2.x recovery.img so i can just manually flash it through fastboot? ive looked around everywhere but i cant seem to find one.
so i restored a really old backup of cm6 (which has rom manager 3.x), which i didnt even think was possible with CWM 3 and edify scripting, flashed amon ra in rom manager, and once i rebooted into recovery it was actually amon ra. i flashed the radio and all seems well. not sure why CM7 with rom manager 4 wouldnt correctly flash a recovery, but it seems resolved for me at least.
For future reference, it is just as easy and recommended to load amon RA via the bootloader as it is from the ROM Manager app.
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For future reference, it is just as easy and recommended to load amon RA via the bootloader as it is from the ROM Manager app.
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whats really the difference between flashing through the bootloader, flashing through rom manager, flashing through fastboot, or flashing through the command line with flash_image?
Obviously rom manager has problems, thats what this whole post is about. But as long as it actually does the flash there shouldnt be difference between the different methods of flashing should there?
You basically answered the question. It's not that ROM Manager is incapable, there have been times when it failed to flash recovery and there have been times when it didn't contain the latest RA recovery. Yea, those things are minor, but it is enough for me to discard using it. Besides, I'm always in the recovery itself so it is only natural for me to do everything from within recovery or the bootloader. But, to each his or her own.
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You basically answered the question. It's not that ROM Manager is incapable, there have been times when it failed to flash recovery and there have been times when it didn't contain the latest RA recovery. Yea, those things are minor, but it is enough for me to discard using it. Besides, I'm always in the recovery itself so it is only natural for me to do everything from within recovery or the bootloader. But, to each his or her own.
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Can i ask why you prefer amon ra over clockwork mod? Does one offer an advantage over the other? Does RA support edify scripting?
I was a faithful ClockworkMod user when I first rooted my device. I had no problems and no intention to switch until around version 3.x.x.x. after that, I started having issues with it not wiping properly so I switched over to amon RA. Although those problems have since been corrected, I have become quite accustomed to amon RA and until it fails me, I will stick with it. Furthermore, there have been times when people's devices have failed to properly boot or wouldn't allow access to recovery until they flashed amon RA. I like its menu layout and how well it works, but that's just me...
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Hey guys, Sprint ended up changing something on my account and screwing up my evo so I couldn't access 3g. Long story short, I RUU'd to get it back to stock and was able to then get 3g data back. Now it still shows S-Off, but I can't boot into recovery and the clockwork mod rom manager won't work, because it says my phone still needs to be rerooted. I was thinking since when I boot into recovery it says S-Off, i'm already rooted and I just need the zip for clockwork mod recovery and I can then go in and flash roms to my hearts content.
Does anyone know where I can find the .zip for clockwork mod recovery?
You need to flash clockworkmod through the bootloader I wouldnt recommend clockworkmod and most people don't recommend it you can find it on clockworkmod.com under recovery images and look for the EVO
Edit:also you might have to flash a superuser zip to get root back
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I don't personally recommend clockworkmod to use as your recovery, but if you just need to have it, you should find it much easier to run the attached PC36IMG file from your SD card.
Also, you may need to flash (or install from SD card) through clockwork the attached superuser zip file to obtain your root permissions if you are going to continue to use stock ROM.
That works
Thank you Shorty Dogg - the pc36img.zip was exactly what i needed. I'm used to Amon Ra, but wanted to try out clockwork. Thanks again!
I would use amon RA or amon RA style supersonic recovery since u had cwm b4 I'd recommend RA style supersonic recovery 3.0.8 as it will allow you to use your cwm backups as well as RA backups and any backups you make in the future, plus it has capacitive buttons and touch screen working in recovery has a battery level option and etc check it out in development
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hcavlnch said:
Thank you Shorty Dogg - the pc36img.zip was exactly what i needed. I'm used to Amon Ra, but wanted to try out clockwork. Thanks again!
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Good luck cwm is garbage compared to RA on the evo it doesn't like to wipe properly alot of times, as well as it doesn't have the same wipe options as RA, atleast it didnt the last time I used it which has been a minute I ditched it for RA almost immediately
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ok i've used the rev tool and installed superuser but says not rooted. I've installed busy box and this is what it is saying. " error. root access not detected. Your device must be rooted to install busy box. if you fell that youare recieving this message in error please go into superuser app and click on busybox installer and then click forget and restart this app." but it is not showing that in superuser. do i just flash the superuser in this section and try it again. i'm rooting a friends phone and followed the instructions to the t. thanks in advanced.