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[Q] Which root method to use?

I just upgraded to the Evo 4G.
It came stock with the Froyo Sprint 3.30.651.2
I was told by a friend that its hard to root the 3.30 builds, and I couldn't find reference to that on here.
Just want to make sure T_T

it is HARD to root 3.30 build. what is your hardware? i am willing to help you command by command (because i am nice?) do you have adb installed? pc or mac? first step is install adb. then i can help you more.

uhm, did i forget to say i am very noob at this T_T what is adb?
and in terms of hardware,. did you mean..
Hardware version 0003?

I was in the same boat as you last week. I had WM for years and was familiar with unlocking and flashing things, had to learn quite a bit of new stuff moving to android. These two threads helped me immensely.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828437
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
I am not sure how well the first one works, but would be easier. Personally I used the 2nd link and followed the manual method, not only to make sure every step was correct, but it also taught me quite a bit about android.
Let me, the other gentleman in this post, or someone in one of those posts if you need an assistance.

wow both those tutorials root while turning s-off?!?!? i guess i haven't been reading up on those enough. i thought that they were to turn s-off once shell permissions were gained. if you want to do it manually, you still can, but the first link seems the best since it somehow magically downgrades you to .76.2 hboot. i'm not sure if anybody else has been able to do this in hboot 2.02. or maybe i'm wrong. maybe you just have to flash a pc36img.zip after s-off.
answering your question: adb is the driver that allows for your phone and your computer to talk. it was developed by google to help app developers, so it is perfectly safe and legal. it is used for just about every manual hack/mod on these forums. really, it is the most useful tool you can have. once again, pc or mac?

pc =]
either one running xp x32 or one running 7 x64

dkdude36 said:
wow both those tutorials root while turning s-off?!?!?
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Yea I had read up all on rooting, flashing, etc before getting my Evo last week only to have to search more when none of the other methods worked. Fortunately those posts got me everything I needed.

Maybe you guys can shed some light for me on this issue. I attempted to root my phone using the tutrial on this site named How to root evo 2.2. Everything went well got into bootloader and when it was time to load the image files from the pc36img.zip it would never load the files. My guess is because the hboot file in the zip is hboot 0.93.0000 and i have hboot 0.97.0000. All the info i see about rooting is relating to hboot 2.0.2 which is not the hboot on my evo. Any ideas? Thanks
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
2.15.00.09.01
Kernel Version
2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e
[email protected] #11
Build Number
3.29.651.5 CL252548 release-keys
Software Number
3.29.651.5
Browser Version
Webkit 3.1
PRI Version
1.77_003
PRL Version
60671
supersonic evt2-3 ship s-on
hboot-0.97.0000
microp-041f
touch panel-atmelc03_16ac
radio-2.15.00.09.01
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Stroid01 said:
Maybe you guys can shed some light for me on this issue. I attempted to root my phone using the tutrial on this site named How to root evo 2.2. Everything went well got into bootloader and when it was time to load the image files from the pc36img.zip it would never load the files. My guess is because the hboot file in the zip is hboot 0.93.0000 and i have hboot 0.97.0000. All the info i see about rooting is relating to hboot 2.0.2 which is not the hboot on my evo. Any ideas? Thanks
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The hboot 2.0.2 like we have is the one that is more difficult to root. I have mine rooted, but I did not downgrade it like some have tried or possibly have done. If you have an older hboot and are on the 3.29 stock rom you shouldn't have too much problem following the basic guides, or even many of the 1-click root options. I personally don't know which to recommend because none of them worked for me, I would read through the android development subforum and see what has worked for others though.

hah ya you need to redo the mtd-eng.img step. that is why it wasn't accepted. i sort of went off on my own boat last night and rooted 3.29 flawlessly by running 4 pc36img.zips (from 3.29 to 1.47 to 1.32 to rooted 1.32 to eng spl 1.32) and 3 different exploits (mtd-eng exploit, flash lite exploit, no security exploit, and simple mtd-eng exploit). it really worked well, but took hours of downloading. thats like over half a gig of files. if you have questios about my method just ask.

where does it say what hboot you have?

boot into bootloader (turn phone off. once fully down, hold power and volume down) should say hboot-(version) or something like that.

I, too am confused as to what method to use or if I have to wait.
My hboot version is 0.97.0000
Hardware is 004
Software 3.29.651.5
PRI 1.77_003
Has anyone applied the unrevoked3 method for this config? Also, if 3.30x is a new release, it's weird why my "System Update" does not find any new OTA updates.

That is the weirdest verson combo I have ever seen. really no idea.

[Q] Questions about rooting (HBOOT & Build)

So I'm looking into this unrEVOked thing, and it seems as though I could root my EVO just fine with it. However my HBOOT is 2.02 and my build number is 3.30.651.3 (this is the part that worried me, since my friend said that a EVO with the hardware version of 0004 and that build number won't be able to be rooted).
My question is basically is there any method of rooting that I could do with no worries? Somebody mentioned to me this method right here but I want to be certain I would be alright with that before I get started. The steps aren't the issue, I'm just trying to do my homework beforehand and be sure I'm ok.

the method you linked will work. unrevoked will not. pm me or gtalk [email protected] for help. i sitll havent gotten a hboot 2.02 person to give me enough time to let me help them root.

I have a 0004 hboot 2.02 device, and used that method. I had many issues during the middle of the process, but made it through using a microSD memory card reader to rename those pc36img.zip files...
Worked great!

dkdude36 said:
the method you linked will work. unrevoked will not. pm me or gtalk [email protected] for help. i sitll havent gotten a hboot 2.02 person to give me enough time to let me help them root.
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Hey Dkdude36, I have questions along the same lines. For hboot 2.02, what other rooting options exist that DO NOT involve the use of Unrevoked's components. Looking through the download files, you'll notice both referenced methods (this and this ) use the file unrevoked-forever. So, what gives?
I am personally on the lookout for a rooting process (for hboot 2.02) that doesnt use that method. The reason being that it's a bit tedious to unroot.

unrevoked forever is different than unrevoked. the methods are completely valid. unrevoked-forever seems to be the key ingredient in rooting 2.02

dkdude36 said:
unrevoked forever is different than unrevoked. the methods are completely valid. unrevoked-forever seems to be the key ingredient in rooting 2.02
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So, if I currently have hboot 2.02, and I want to 'downgrade' to the eng build .76.2000, what are the steps? Root with whatever flavor of unrevoked-forever that works with my EVO (hardware 003), then flash the hboot .76.2000 downgrade zip? I don't even understand why I need hboot 2.02 versus the earlier builds. Besides it also appears the earlier root methods (1 or 2 clicks, Simple Root 1.47.651.1,etc detailed here will not work on 2.02.).

Got around to rooting the phone just fine using the method I linked. However I can't installed CM 6.1 RC at all. It gets stuck at the white EVO 4G splash screen. I'm assuming it's an issue with 0004 EVO's?

Darknight630 said:
Got around to rooting the phone just fine using the method I linked. However I can't installed CM 6.1 RC at all. It gets stuck at the white EVO 4G splash screen. I'm assuming it's an issue with 0004 EVO's?
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I've been trying to figure this out for a few days now... Apparently it's the kernel. A guy in the official forum said he used the toast test kernel 2.6.35 and everything works, including the camera! I'm just having a hard time finding it!

ImmortalLuD said:
I've been trying to figure this out for a few days now... Apparently it's the kernel. A guy in the official forum said he used the toast test kernel 2.6.35 and everything works, including the camera! I'm just having a hard time finding it!
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Just saw the post about it, I rather just wait till they get a fix out for CM. I'll stick with Fresh, as much as I dislike sense I can deal.

Darknight630 said:
Just saw the post about it, I rather just wait till they get a fix out for CM. I'll stick with Fresh, as much as I dislike sense I can deal.
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I don't know if that's going to happen anytime soon. I just installed the lastest nightly with snap's 7.6 cfs kernel. Everything works, and I'm super happy! Still use Frost, Fresh, MIUI, Myn's Warm, and everything else too...

tho this may seem like a dumb question i just got my evo over the weekend and i havent stumbled upon the answer yet....how do you know what hboot you have? i see that i have hardware 004 and i see that i have the newest build number i just not sure where or how to tell the Hboot version. Any ideas? Thanks.

Just boot into hboot. Power off, and then hold power and volume down. You are now in hboot.

[Q] Rooting a friends Evo, Please comfirm this strategy.

I already have my Evo rooted, one of the newest ones, Hardware 0004, Hboot 2.02, but I want to root a friends Evo who has no technical know-how. I already have all the SDK software on my laptop and regularly make edits to my phone. I just don't want to mess hers up. Hers is older..
Hboot 0.97.0000
Radio 2.15.00.09.01
Hardware 0003 (with crappy screen. Wow what a difference next to mine, all washed out and a pinkish hue)
Lastest software updates via the phone menu as far as I know. Forgot to check that part, wont have that phone in my hands till tomorrow again.
Can I use this method since hers has an older Hboot than mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762&highlight=root
I used the like a boss guide for mine.. but like I said I have the 2.02 hboot. I don't know about trying the unrevoked method
EDIT:
This method looks even easier. Will it work with hers?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496

I rooted mine with unrEVOked3. It was all pretty easy.
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danman132x said:
i already have my evo rooted, one of the newest ones, hardware 0004, hboot 2.02, but i want to root a friends evo who has no technical know-how. I already have all the sdk software on my laptop and regularly make edits to my phone. I just don't want to mess hers up. Hers is older..
Hboot 0.97.0000
radio 2.15.00.09.01
hardware 0003 (with crappy screen. Wow what a difference next to mine, all washed out and a pinkish hue)
lastest software updates via the phone menu as far as i know. Forgot to check that part, wont have that phone in my hands till tomorrow again.
Can i use this method since hers has an older hboot than mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762&highlight=root
i used the like a boss guide for mine.. But like i said i have the 2.02 hboot. I don't know about trying the unrevoked method
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This method looks even easier. Will it work with hers?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
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caguirr4 said:
i rooted mine with unrevoked3. It was all pretty easy.
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don't root hers with the unrevoked3 its gaaaaaaaay she needs the leet original method. Use that guide by toastcfh like you said. I just did that and it will work easily!!!! I can help.
Just follow the instructions on toastcfh's post in the first link you posted on your first question.
Then you gotta do some updates on her new rom / kernel to test first and give her the best longing lastest battery powered phone ever! That I can help too with.
gtalk: [email protected]

alekosy said:
don't root hers with the unrevoked3 its gaaaaaaaay she needs the leet original method. Use that guide by toastcfh like you said. I just did that and it will work easily!!!! I can help.
Just follow the instructions on toastcfh's post in the first link you posted on your first question.
Then you gotta do some updates on her new rom / kernel to test first and give her the best longing lastest battery powered phone ever! That I can help too with.
gtalk: [email protected]
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And This is my radio number, same as hers. I wish I knew her, LOL Just kidding.
It's 2.15.00.09.01
You can see my phone specs and details in my signature below GL

Someone help...will unrevoked work for 3.3?

I downloaded unrevoked 3 ive rooted mine and my girlfriends phone with no issues. However we have had our evos since the 1st day they came out. Will unrevoked work for 3.3 on the evo? If not is there a simple way someone who isnt to good with computers like myself can root these phones?
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Anyone?
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If your HBOOT version is 2.02 or 2.10, then no, unrevoked will not work.

From what I am reading... if you say you got your EVO from day 1, I assume that is June 4th, all EVOs from that date are from 0.87 HBOOT so yes, unrevoked would work for you.
Check your HBOOT version just in case.

fenixjn said:
From what I am reading... if you say you got your EVO from day 1, I assume that is June 4th, all EVOs from that date are from 0.87 HBOOT so yes, unrevoked would work for you.
Check your HBOOT version just in case.
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I think he already knows that his can be rooted. He says in his question that he had no issues rooting it or his girlfriends phone.

bmoreboy02 said:
I downloaded unrevoked 3 ive rooted mine and my girlfriends phone with no issues. However we have had our evos since the 1st day they came out. Will unrevoked work for 3.3 on the evo? If not is there a simple way someone who isnt to good with computers like myself can root these phones?
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I think what you want to know, is how to update to a 3.30.651.3 rom and keep root?
If that is what you are asking, then yes, you can look for one like in this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836728
You can download it and follow the directions, its easy. You should already be rooted, so if you install a rooted rom you should be OK.
If you are still on 3.29, make sure that you have S-OFF and ran Unrevoked Forever.

BASICALLY YES I BOUGHT MY EVOS THE 1ST FRIDAY THEY CAME OUT JUNE 4TH I BELIEVE. IVE NEVER DID ANYTHING TO IT EXCEPTH DOWNLOAD UPDATES SENT BY SPRINT. I FPUND OUT ABOUT ROOTING FOR FREE WIFI. DOWNLOADED UNREVOKED. DOWNLOADED THE ANDROID DRIVERS I GUESS BC IM USING WINDOWS 7 I NEEDED THEM. PLUGGED MINE AND MY GFS PHONE IN AND BAM! UNREVOKED HAD ME ROOTED IN MINUTES. SO I START GETTING A LITTLE COCKY AND GET ON THIS FORUM AND SEE IM WAY OUT OF MY LEAGUE. IM TRYING MY BEST TO SOAK IN AS MUCH INFO BY READING ALOT OF THE INFO IN THE Q&A FORUMS. NOT EXZACTLY SURE WHAT FLASHING ROM IS NOT SURE WHAT A KERNEL IS. FROM READING WHAT EVERYONE ON HERE IS DOING IAM WAYYYY BEHIND THE EIGHTBALL LOL. SO WHATS A EASY WAY FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME TO ROOT THE NEW EVOS. WILL UNREVOKED WORK? ALSO WHAT DO YOU RECCOMEND SOMEONE LIKE ME DO TO AN EVO THAT HASNT REALLY BEEN MODIFIED EXCEPT UNREVOKED?
OK SO THIS IS WHAT IAM LOOKING AT
ANDROID VERSION
2.2
BASEBAND VERSION
2.15.00.09.01
KERNEL VERSION
2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e
[email protected]#1!
SOFTWARE NUMBER
3.29.651.5
BROWSER VERSION
WEBKIT3.1
PRI VERSION
1.77_003
PRL VERSION
60670

I keep hearing everyone say use the "like a boss" method

Ok...so you first got the EVO when it came out in June, rooted it, but then applied a Sprint OTA update and lost root?
I'm not entirely sure what you are really asking because if you already obtained root, why would you need to root it again?

No i havent lost root. My phone is rooted. My friends have the new evo with the 3.3 software. Before i tell em to drive up to baltimore from richmond i wanna make sure it will work. Thre reason i posted the info about my phone is i guess it would just be useful for people to see what exzactly i have and would need

Ok...that's what I was thinking at first.
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OK SO THIS IS WHAT IAM LOOKING AT
ANDROID VERSION
2.2
BASEBAND VERSION
2.15.00.09.01
KERNEL VERSION
2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e
[email protected]#1!
SOFTWARE NUMBER
3.29.651.5
BROWSER VERSION
WEBKIT3.1
PRI VERSION
1.77_003
PRL VERSION
60670
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So this spec is his phone or yours? If this is his phone, then you can use unrevoked3 (I assume since the build is 3.29, the HBOOT is 0.97 or so).

No this is my phone
He just bought his from radioshack 4 days ago so im assuming he has all the newest software. Also thanks for explaining the difference in unrevoked 3 and forever on my other thread. Im assuming i need to save any info on my phone before running unrevoked forever. Sorry to be bouncing around so much but im just so anxious to learn so heres 2 questions
1) when flashing roms, is unrevoked 3 a tool i can use. Can i just click custom then select the rom i want to flash?
2) for my buddys phone, what is the simplest way to root his phone since unrevoked will not work. Im reading the tjread everyone is referring to as 'like a boss" but its not making much sense

1. I assume from you asking about unrevoked forever, you are still S-ON and trying to get S-OFF? When you ran unrevoked3, it should've installed a custom recovery (ClockworkMOD is what unrevoked uses I believe). That's where you flash unrevoked forever and any custom ROMs later (the files need to be on the root of your SDcard - meaning not in any folders).
To get to recovery: power off, then when you turn it back on, hold down VOL DOWN and POWER and that will put you into bootloader. It may attempt to locate PC36IMG.zip/etc files but you prob won't have them which is fine, after that, select Recovery and hit Power and you should be booting into recovery.
If you can, I would suggest doing a nandroid backup of your phone so in case anything does get messed up while flashing, you can restore back. To do this, go to backup or something like that (sorry, I use Amon_RA's recovery so the wording is most likely different). Once you are backed up, go to 'install zip from sdcard', then 'choose zip from sdcard', and then pick the file you want to flash. After that, reboot and you should be good to go.
Some custom ROMs require you to do a full wipe (data/cache/dalvik-cache - wipe each one twice) before you flash, so to do that you go to recovery and choose the wipe option. Stuff like radios, kernels, themes, you only need to wipe the cache and dalvik-cache.
2. As for your buddy's phone....I am not too familiar with the new EVO root methods but I think the "like a boss" edition which is now updated to "Yea, I'm On Top" edition seems to be the new way to root the new EVOs until unrevoked or someone else comes out with another way. You can check out these threads to get a better understand and post in them too if you have any questions and the guys with experience when those methods should be able to help. Sorry, I can't be of too much help here.
READ FIRST! Rooting Information and Common Problems + Questions (Updated:12/15/10)
[ROOT][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02/2.10 SOFF -Yea, Yes Im On Top Edition - Upd. 12.19.10
[ROOT] ~~~ HTC EVO - Universal Auto Root ~~~ (updated for 2.02)(12/15/10)
Best of luck to you and your buddy.

S-ON and update troubles

Afternoon all,
I will try to provide all of the information I can in hopes someone can give me an idea on where I stand and where I need to go from here to get my phone the way I would like it.
Incoming Evo information:
MEID - A100000D98BC65
Version - 0002
Baseband - 2.15.00.07.28
Kernel - 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 #58
Build - 3.26.651.6
PRI - 1.34_003
PRL - 60674
Bootloader Information:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-2 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT- 0.93.0000
Root Method - Simple Root (forget which version)
Quick Background:
I don't know much about rooting phones but have come to understand the process and reasons behind it over the past several months. Purchased my phone on release, rooted it very early, all is great. I have always had the S-ON feature on my phone and it seems that several ROM's I would like to take advantage of require the S-OFF feature as to my understanding, it means you have "full root". I could be/probably am wrong here.
With the talk of backing up RSA keys to not lose 4G and other hiccups popping up, I want to make sure I use the best possible method to get everything as it should be. I currently ran the original PC136IMG (I believe this is the RUU) to bring my phone to "stock". My reasoning behind this was to push my phone to full stock and re-root to attain the S-OFF feature.
Now when I boot into bootloader and attempt to flash, I get a black screen with an EVO and a Red triangle/exclamation sign. What throws me off is because I can get into the bootloader, running the aforementioned RUU didn't seem to unroot me. To be honest, I don't even know if there is a full unroot method even avilable as numerous Google searches really give a wide variety of answers.
What I am trying to do:
All I would like to do is unroot my phone and then re-root it with a newer method so I can have S-OFF feature and update all my Radios/PRI/etc.... that I need to do so I can get the full functionality of my phone. I *think* Calk has a thread on this and although I have read it numerous times, maybe I am to dense to get it and need a helping hand. If anymore information is needed, I am happy to oblige. Thanks to anyone who can lend me a hand.

You kind of jumped the gun with the unrooting, you could have just ran Unrevoked Forever and called it a day. But now that you are unrooted, use Unrevoked 3.32 and that will fully root your phone for you, including replacing your recovery (I believe it gives you Clockwork). Do that, you'll be good to go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896298

Can you update to thread newest sprint software update (3.70)?
Sent from my evil evo!!

evolishesh said:
Can you update to thread newest sprint software update (3.70)?
Sent from my evil evo!!
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Just go to settings system updates ,HTC update ,and make it phone search for ota,it should prompt u to download the 3.70 update and than ull know u r full unrooted and up to date,than run unrevoked ,,,,that way ull b updated and rooted...

Thanks for the quick advice. My only worry with unrevoked is I have heard that it has the possibility of losing RSA keys. Does that have any truth behind it or will unrevoked put me to S-OFF and from there I am golden.

I ran Unrevoked3 earlier today. I downloaded an Amon recovery img and had unrevoked install that (File / Custom Recovery) instead of Clockwork after hearing about some WiMax issues with Clockwork.
After completing the root, I did step 6A from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045. This should back up the RSA keys, after the fact at least. You need to be rooted to complete the steps using adb.
So far no trouble with 4G. It connects to sprint and lets me transfer data, so things look good. FWIW, my radio is 2.15.00.11.19, with PRI 1.90_003, on software 3.70.651.1.

Quick update. First, thank you all for your contributions to me with this. I went ahead and followed the unrevoked method and everything seems to look good on my end. All updates are there, S-OFF is on (terrible at puns), and all is well for now at least. Also, thanks for the help on that Skypoint but I have yet to venture into the wild wilderness that is adb which I will probably leave for another day. Anyways, thanks once more all as I do really appreciate it.

Prymo said:
Quick update. First, thank you all for your contributions to me with this. I went ahead and followed the unrevoked method and everything seems to look good on my end. All updates are there, S-OFF is on (terrible at puns), and all is well for now at least. Also, thanks for the help on that Skypoint but I have yet to venture into the wild wilderness that is adb which I will probably leave for another day. Anyways, thanks once more all as I do really appreciate it.
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Glad you got it all worked out