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HTC One X not as good as One S's camera?

Since both devices have the same HTC ImageChip DSP, they both should perform the same, right? Apparently no. According to PhoneArena, "The HTC One S takes slightly oversaturated photos with good contrast and amount of detail. The colors are colder in the case of the One X, and it has more accurate color representation with white balance a bit off in some shots." To me, the shots look better on the One S. You can check it here: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-One-X-vs-HTC-One-S_id3005/page/3
Any idea how to improve the one x's cam?
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Hi mate, I havent heard the One S is better before, but shall take a read of that link.
But I have asked this question before, and didn't get an answer. (NOT HERE ON GOOGLE!)
I wanted to know, surely theres some tweaks etc you can perform to get the most out of the camera, but I'm no means a camera nerd and havent got a clue what makes a picture better, apart from MegaPixel and ive been told thats nothing to do with quality, just how big you can blow it up.
Anyone have any tips for improving the HTC One X cam?
**edit** : looked at your link.
I definately agree the HTC One S pictures are alot better. What gives?

Wilks3y said:
Hi mate, I havent heard the One S is better before, but shall take a read of that link.
But I have asked this question before, and didn't get an answer. (NOT HERE ON GOOGLE!)
I wanted to know, surely theres some tweaks etc you can perform to get the most out of the camera, but I'm no means a camera nerd and havent got a clue what makes a picture better, apart from MegaPixel and ive been told thats nothing to do with quality, just how big you can blow it up.
Anyone have any tips for improving the HTC One X cam?
**edit** : looked at your link.
I definately agree the HTC One S pictures are alot better. What gives?
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try this HQ Camera Mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765416

vivek_bhoj said:
try this HQ Camera Mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765416
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Thanks mate, taken a look but I'm not on a custom ROM :/
I think im going to HAVE to root my device soon, once I get over the nerves of no warranty !!

Actually, I do know for sure that this is due to crappy JPEG compression. (You can use a third party app like Camera Zoom FX) But still if it is because of that, and the One S is using the SAME camera and software shouldn't it be about the same?
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hi dudes...i had htc one x 1 month ago...i install any hq mode & other camera app...problem is not just about detail...it`s about pinky shadow...bad color balance..& dark & pink cover over all photos...in low light or outdoor light...there is no mod that can solve it..it`s hardware problem...i have htc one s now..& must say that it`s powerfull cameraphone...& results are same as iphone 4s & xperia s & better than galaxy s2 that hi had last year...

why HOX camera is not good *

hi guys,
im not photographer , but today when i compare my HOX with SGS3 result made me upset a bit .
tried under the different lighting positions , all were good with SGS3.
have been using for 2 years IncredibleS , pics were much better than HOX .
any ideas agree or disagree wit me ?

Hox has very good camera module, you need to play a bit with settings. On auto sometimes it's crappy.

mando508 said:
Hox has very good camera module, you need to play a bit with settings. On auto sometimes it's crappy.
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SGS3 was in an electronic market and was demo machine, every1 was playing with it. so it was not setted up correctly, all settings were from factory setup .
i used to my Incredible S factory setup , result was amazing.
please could you give me an example setup conf for HOX.
as i said before im not expert but i neigher like front and back.

It is rubbish compared to xperia T
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xl VipeR lx said:
It is rubbish compared to xperia T
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You can't compare the two
Xperia 13mp.
,htc 8mp
Unfair on htc
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AW: why HOX camera is not good *
alicine said:
SGS3 was in an electronic market and was demo machine, every1 was playing with it. so it was not setted up correctly, all settings were from factory setup .
i used to my Incredible S factory setup , result was amazing.
please could you give me an example setup conf for HOX.
as i said before im not expert but i neigher like front and back.
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You shouldn't use widescreen mode in widescreen mode you don't have 8mpx you will have just 6 mpx set sharpness to -1 and iso to 100 and this should be the best config for the hox
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Mr_S said:
You can't compare the two
Xperia 13mp.
,htc 8mp
Unfair on htc
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Mpx doesn't mean nothing... It's all about the lens, sensor and f.
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Use some camera tweak and then you will see some changes.

alicine said:
SGS3 was in an electronic market and was demo machine, every1 was playing with it. so it was not setted up correctly, all settings were from factory setup .
i used to my Incredible S factory setup , result was amazing.
please could you give me an example setup conf for HOX.
as i said before im not expert but i neigher like front and back.
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Personally i'm using sharpness -2, iso & exposure depends on situation and after photo is taken i'm correcting white balance (not always) in editor (because in camera options htc didn't include all AWB settings :<). Photos are grainy but there is a lot of details... overall it's a decent shooter with really clever interface.

I'm a real photographer in real life.. and I always play a lot with my toy camera a.k.a LOMO that still using negative as module.. and what I saw here is modern people style thinking.. my friend, my sensei(teacher) tell me this.. 'a good photo come from a good photographer, not a good camera'.. just use iyapota mod..
and here is sunny day configuration,,
exp = +1
cont = +2
Sat = +1
sharp = +1
ISO = 'it sunny, so test it with low iso 1st and make sure when you are using camera, turn you phone brightness to max so you can see if the photo failed'
Hope this help a little.. For night or dark.. we need a better sensor to focus.. so I always bring torch with me so I can light up subject for focusing before I snap.

shouldnt i select widescreen ?

alicine said:
shouldnt i select widescreen ?
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It all up to you.. it doesn't matter wide or not.. I always use wide.. just make sure you shooting with correct light sources.. that actually what every photographer should know.. low light will giving you a great picture sometime with our f2.0 aperture but any picture still need correct light value to light up photo.. So keep try to find a good and compatible setting for you need. And don't compare picture when it still in phone.. better use pc to see the real quality of a picture. And you need to love the camera so you can learn to use it. Here some sample.
Auto Mode
Sunset Mode
Low Light Panorama
HDR
Or just head to this Thread to see how great our camera if we know how to use it well
Hope it help you.

alicine said:
hi guys,
im not photographer , but today when i compare my HOX with SGS3 result made me upset a bit .
tried under the different lighting positions , all were good with SGS3.
have been using for 2 years IncredibleS , pics were much better than HOX .
any ideas agree or disagree wit me ?
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Are you sure about this? The many comparisons I have seen online always show the One X having deeper colours and less noise in low light. Pictures taking on the S3 seem a little... bland.
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My last phone was an IncS and I have to say the HOX outperforms it. While the megapixels are the same, the quality of the lens is better and the image chip in the HOX is better and produces better photos.
Regardless, if I need to take any photos, I use my dslr.
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fizzlington said:
My last phone was an IncS and I have to say the HOX outperforms it. While the megapixels are the same, the quality of the lens is better and the image chip in the HOX is better and produces better photos.
Regardless, if I need to take any photos, I use my dslr.
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u meaning Incredible S worse than HOX ?

batna.antab said:
Mpx doesn't mean nothing... It's all about the lens, sensor and f.
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I Agree. I think anything over 8MP will only look good on big screens such as TV's. Have a look at this: http://gizmodo.com/5888552/reminder-megapixels-dont-matter

omondisingh said:
I Agree. I think anything over 8MP will only look good on big screens such as TV's. Have a look at this: http://gizmodo.com/5888552/reminder-megapixels-dont-matter
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Yup! Correct! It actually need to base on our purpose 1st before saying it is good or not.. Let me give you a situation.. You need to snap 100 of people in one picture.. And you'll need to use a higher mp so when we try to zooming closer when viewing in pc or media viewer it will not have distort face..
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nashshafrulrezza said:
Yup! Correct! It actually need to base on our purpose 1st before saying it is good or not.. Let me give you a situation.. You need to snap 100 of people in one picture.. And you'll need to use a higher mp so when we try to zooming closer when viewing in pc or media viewer it will not have distort face..
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Exactly. All that matters is a bigger lens to capture more light, type of sensor and focal ratio

Desire hd camera IS THE BEST HTC has made to date it leaves the hox dragging behind faraway with it image processor and fast shutter ( nobody cares about how fast they take the shot HTC but rather the end result picture quality)

AW: why HOX camera is not good *
I think your eyes is not good
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Camera APKs and quality

I have come to a point where I don't remember the camera being so low quality on the Optimus G (maybe due to the time that's passed by and upgrades on newer phones) but I'm curious to know if different camera apks like the LG signed aosp one is better or worse than lets say the G2 camera or google play edition. I know software has to do with improving the quality of the shots to a certain point but again I haven't seen anything for 4.4.X roms. Anyone that can help me out here.

I use camera FV-5 no matter what when it comes to needing great pictures. The stock Google camera also is great 80% of the time. Those two seem to be the best IMO. remember to wipe off the camera glass before pictures also, simple but some people forget to. Also scratches on it will reduce the quality. ANYWAYS, those two cameras + epics mod = definitely acceptable.
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[Q] Camera sucks on M8 GPe

There's no way around it, the camera on my M8 GPe sucks. I even had to switch to my old Nexus 4 just now to get a picture that was decent. This was mainly due to the Nexus 4 lighting the flash while focusing which the M8 GPe doesn't. Not sure why, they should work the same...
But I believe the overall quality was better on the few pictures I took while I was on stock. So is this possible to fix? With a new camera app maybe?

djr83 said:
There's no way around it, the camera on my M8 GPe sucks. I even had to switch to my old Nexus 4 just now to get a picture that was decent. This was mainly due to the Nexus 4 lighting the flash while focusing which the M8 GPe doesn't. Not sure why, they should work the same...
But I believe the overall quality was better on the few pictures I took while I was on stock. So is this possible to fix? With a new camera app maybe?
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Can't say I much disagree with you here. The One GPe is pretty damn nice except for the camera. The Sense version of the camera that I played with in the store was better. My problem is that the flash doesn't seem to illuminate subjects at all, particularly if you need to take a photo of a business card or wine label in a darker room. As a result, I've been using VSCO much more often (which I generally used only for 'artistic' subjects. Sorry I don't have a better solution for you.

Google should force the manufacturers to give out all apps included in the stock versions through Google Play and make them available to the GPe versions...
I hope Android Silver will be the solution for this problem.

Stock Google camera sucks donkey balls. Excuse me for my choice of words but it's true and we all know it. A big weakness of any GPE phone or Nexus phones for that matter.

i will agree its not the best, BUT are we taking pro shots here ? its a mobile phone not a camera

rbouza1 said:
i will agree its not the best, BUT are we taking pro shots here ? its a mobile phone not a camera
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That's actually the point. I'm not taking pro shots by any means and it's still not usable pictures. Last time I couldn't get the focus right since it doesn't flash the LED during focus. I'm not sure why anyone would accept blurry pictures no matter what they were supposed to be for.
Phones of the same price gets better pictures and cheaper phones with stock Android gets better pictures. And when HTC makes a big deal about "ultrapixels" we are entitled to complain.

djr83 said:
That's actually the point. I'm not taking pro shots by any means and it's still not usable pictures. Last time I couldn't get the focus right since it doesn't flash the LED during focus. I'm not sure why anyone would accept blurry pictures no matter what they were supposed to be for.
Phones of the same price gets better pictures and cheaper phones with stock Android gets better pictures. And when HTC makes a big deal about "ultrapixels" we are entitled to complain.
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i can live with that. we do have a flagship and with googles os id expect only the best.

I took a wander over the the pictures thread. Some pretty impressive pics in there for what is effect a 4mp camera. I'm on GPE and don't have any issues with it. Clear, sharp and focused.

grentuu said:
I took a wander over the the pictures thread. Some pretty impressive pics in there for what is effect a 4mp camera. I'm on GPE and don't have any issues with it. Clear, sharp and focused.
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Are those taken with a Sense M8 or GPe M8? My main complaint is that the GPe is worse than stock.

djr83 said:
Are those taken with a Sense M8 or GPe M8? My main complaint is that the GPe is worse than stock.
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I actually made direct comparison phots between a GPE Camera and the Sense camera and the pictures were pretty much identical. The photos only seem a lot better in sense camera because the viewfinder shows better pictures. If you actually take them and look at them in the gallery, they are pretty much identical.
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Radixtrator said:
I actually made direct comparison phots between a GPE Camera and the Sense camera and the pictures were pretty much identical. The photos only seem a lot better in sense camera because the viewfinder shows better pictures. If you actually take them and look at them in the gallery, they are pretty much identical.
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My personal opinion is that it's harder to get a good picture with GPe. Slower shutter, harder to focus etc. If everything gets right I assume both versions are able to make equally good pictures since it's the same hardware.

djr83 said:
My personal opinion is that it's harder to get a good picture with GPe. Slower shutter, harder to focus etc. If everything gets right I assume both versions are able to make equally good pictures since it's the same hardware.
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I totally agree. The Google Camera App is complete Garbage. I would be SO happy, if someone figures out how to port the One plus One camera
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Radixtrator said:
I totally agree. The Google Camera App is complete Garbage. I would be SO happy, if someone figures out how to port the One plus One camera
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I would be happy with the HTC camera. I think.

djr83 said:
I would be happy with the HTC camera. I think.
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I'm pretty sure though the opo app and will be a lot easier seeing its a native CM app. Sense camera is a hell of a lot of work
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Anyone knows how to get the Stock G4 Camera app?

Hello!
Yesterday I flashed CyanogenMod on my G4 H815 and just before the phone rebooted, I realized that I won't have the mega-awesome Camera app from LG. So does anyone know if there is any apk or any way to get it? To mention, I didn't backup my device because... because.
Thank you!

Probably won't work even if you get the apk, since most OEM specific apps need OEM specific framework to run. I think the only way to have it working on CM would be to port it. But why would you want that anyway? The image quality won't really change. It's not that much dependant on the app but rather the drivers running the camera.

nitrous² said:
Probably won't work even if you get the apk, since most OEM specific apps need OEM specific framework to run. I think the only way to have it working on CM would be to port it. But why would you want that anyway? The image quality won't really change. It's not that much dependant on the app but rather the drivers running the camera.
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It's not necessary the image quality, but the flexibility you have with that app (manual focus, iso, exposure time, etc.). I hope there is a way to use that app. While I was searching for it I found that there is the G4 Camera app ported for G3, so I am thinking that there could be the original app somewhere..
Thanks!

It's not possible right now. There have been efforts to port it, but nothing has come out of it yet. There are however other apps that are pretty good. And the CM stock camera app only misses the HDR and Manual settings. The quality otherwise is similar

xdag4 said:
It's not possible right now. There have been efforts to port it, but nothing has come out of it yet. There are however other apps that are pretty good. And the CM stock camera app only misses the HDR and Manual settings.
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there are 3rd party apps that should work for manual setting but your max shutter won't exceed 0.7s. This is the already the case with the stock firmware and 3rd party camera apps.
There is something called night shot which the G4 resorts to very often especially with the front camera. that will be gone. Selfies ain't going to be as good. it's also used for the rear in lower light. Though a longer exposure will produce better images. night shot is a convenience when you don't want to set up on a tripod.
The quality otherwise is similar
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How can you tell ?
it requires a side by side in full resolution with 2 G4's one with stock & CM under varying lighting. Lots of comparisons like that.
How good is the Cm camera in auto ? that's one of the strengths of the stock G4 camera.
Does the Cm camera make use of the colour sensor at all.

Except for the 30s exposure there is nothing special about that app, just use Proshot and you will be far better, cancel noise reduction make dngs and you have better shots

One Twelve said:
How can you tell ?
it requires a side by side in full resolution with 2 G4's one with stock & CM under varying lighting. Lots of comparisons like that.
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I can tell because I have seen photos from both cameras (on the computer). And if you really need 2 separate G4s under the same conditions side by side to tell the difference then there is not much difference. It's the audio bitrate debate all over again.
I am not saying it's as good as with stock but similar in most situations. I miss the HDR feature because it helps in low light situations.

One Twelve said:
I can tell because I have seen photos from both cameras (on the computer).
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Can you post links to examples of photos taken with cm camera ?
saw a few in the g4 community but the max resolution was just 2.4MP, need to be full resolution.
The low light shots on auto were crap. The G4 is a low light shooter in stock auto.
And if you really need 2 separate G4s under the same conditions side by side to tell the difference then there is not much difference. It's the audio bitrate debate all over again.
I am not saying it's as good as with stock but similar in most situations. I miss the HDR feature because it helps in low light situations.
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Such are the requirements for a clinching argument. otherwise its based on faith.
if people want to go down this route they need to know what they will be losing.
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ObiDanKenobi said:
Except for the 30s exposure there is nothing special about that app, just use Proshot and you will be far better, cancel noise reduction make dngs and you have better shots
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heh, anything from 0.5s UP TO 30s isn't possible.
I would be very sceptical about replacing stock with cm camera until i see plenty of examples with cm.
Also bear in mind that vendors keep a very tight lock on their cameras and don't share much with 3rd parties. yeah you can use a 3rd party app in some circumstances but you can never replace the stock camera in all situations. This stock cmaera that can challenge the likes of smasung and is touted as a major selling point of the G4. Yeah, i say its pretty special.
Which is a requirement to any one considering the CM path.
What i'm reading here is if you want CM then you don't care too much about the camera to begin with. That would not surprise me as people that are good with roms don't tend to be very good with camera and vice versa. it's rare to find both those skill sets in people.