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[Q] New to Root - help with Clockwork and general advice

Hi -
I just rooted my Incredible running the 2.2 OTA using the new Unrevoked release. It worked great! I installed the clockwork mod using the advice from this article (didn't use clockwork after all, used Root Explorer to move the apps I didn't want to folder I created)
jonamerica.com/technology/remove-bloatware-from-htc-droid-incredible-2-2/[/url]
I didn't know that I could use Root Explorer and do the same thing myself....
Is there any easy way to uninstall the Clockwork Recovery mod? I couldn't find any info online on bringing it back to stock. - My main concern is that any future OTA updates will be messed up with this installed.
I have heard stories about it bricking phones after the install???? If need be I will return the phone to stock and start over (link to how to do this anyone?)
I'm new to all this, any info/links would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

espmetalhead said:
Hi -
I have heard stories about it bricking phones after the install???? If need be I will return the phone to stock and start over (link to how to do this anyone?)
I'm new to all this, any info/links would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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I'll be honest with you..I've never heard a story of clockwork mod bricking someone's phone...Usually bricking occurs when someone does something out of order or fails to follow directions. Either way, take a look at this guide..if you want to return to stock...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760306
Future OTA updates? haha, i dont know. 2.2 is out. HTC fufilled their commitment, i think we have a while especially if the incredible is being upgraded to magical gingerbread. Good luck!

Thanks for getting back so quickly!
I assume I would use section 6 - the PB31IMG is the 2.2 RUU correct?

Is this even possible? If you flash back to the RUU, it will wipe your ROM. Doing so will put the bloatware back on to the phone. In order for Root Explorer to have su access to remove the bloatware, you'd need to flash "SuperUser.apk". Wouldn't you need to install a custom recovery to do this? At this point, you're right back to where you started. I guess there might be a way to install SuperUser.apk through adb.
Don't take this as gospel. I'm still getting my feet wet. I might be missing something...

sl0wd0wn said:
Is this even possible? If you flash back to the RUU, it will wipe your ROM. Doing so will put the bloatware back on to the phone. In order for Root Explorer to have su access to remove the bloatware, you'd need to flash "SuperUser.apk". Wouldn't you need to install a custom recovery to do this? At this point, you're right back to where you started. I guess there might be a way to install SuperUser.apk through adb.
Don't take this as gospel. I'm still getting my feet wet. I might be missing something...
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thanks for the reply -
I was mainly looking for a quick way to get the phone back to %100 stock just in case I have to send it back to VZW. When I worked at VZW certain RUU's wouldn't flash if the version was the same, not sure if that's changed or not. Just wondering if I ran the RUU would it return everything to stock?

Yes. Since you are s-on, the ruu would take you back to full stock.
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The bootloader says s-off
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CWM
There are at least 2 schools of thought on CWM, but this is the first place I'd read where it could brick your device.
That said, following the guidance on how to use it found here and elsewhere, CWM ~ while not pretty or particularly intuitive ~ won't brick your device, in and of itself.
I know your Qx has to do with getting it back to shelf-status, but the threads posted above should get you where you want/need to be -

espmetalhead said:
The bootloader says s-off
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You'll need to apply the s-on patch before flashing the RUU.

I'm rooted and they just sent out a maintenance release. Can I do it?

I've heard that you can't do an ota firmware update if you're rooted (is this true?) If so, am I still able to do maintenance releases? Sprint just sent out a new one. http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/240535#240535
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If your rooted you never do a ota or yours losing root
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Never ever do an OTA, if you're rooted.
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That's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure >.> thanks!
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So the general consensus is not to do a OTA update if rooted because you will lose root.
OK, what if I dont mind losing root.
I am rooted (ive used the unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo method).
And I have never installed any custom ROMs.
(i.e. I am running on Stock. Not rooted Stock ROM! Just rooted Stock. Im not even sure if there is a difference but just wanted to say it so its clear.)
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.

newtonetienne said:
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
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That is based on the assumption that there will be a guaranteed method to regain root user access on the device. It could take hours, days, weeks, months, or even never.
I would recommend flashing the stock 3.70 update for root users here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
Now you still have the update, but you have retained root user access.

Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update (i.e. actually through update and not flashed) my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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newtonetienne said:
Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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novanosis85 said:
You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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Sorry novanosis85, i think my last post was a bit unclear.
I wanted to unroot, so I could apply the OTA update.
I guess I was trying to provide some feedback for others who may have similar questions like i did. Namely...
1. can I apply OTA when rooted? what i discovered was, "no" because the update process will discovery a custom recovery.
2. whats is required to be able to apply the OTA? s-on, and unroot procedure, then apply OTA. Update will indeed be applied but you will be unrooted.
Again, I hope this helps others.

dont dooo it! ull lose root

Wheres the guy with the zombie thread pic when you need him? I thought another ota was out
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New firmware coming to Orange Desire

Hey,
Would any of you know when the 2.29.xx firmware will be available for the htc desire with orange rom??
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going on their performance on releasing updates in the past...about 2011...maybe.
You can contact orange customer services and ask, but they'll just lie to you.
I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you

Ok, so would i benefit from rooting this phone and putting a official debranded desire rom?
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Possibly, but what benefits do you expect?
The problem with being on orange branded is that there's no way to get back to an orange stock rom after rooting.
This would possibly affect any warranty claims so it is a risk.....
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You can root then use nandbackup so if you want to go back you can restore to orange rom.
I forget to backup mine but never regretted as I have using stock roms.
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atifsh said:
You can root then use nandbackup so if you want to go back you can restore to orange rom.
I forget to backup mine but never regretted as I have using stock roms.
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but once its rooted that effects the warranty and you'll be liable to pay for any repairs.

you are correct.
i have tried before to restore an orange nand and then apply the latest OTA over the top to try and get it unrooted but i haven't got it to work...
i may try again.
in the meanwhile, we'll just have to hope an RUU becomes available.

You can get back to fully unrooted stock orange rom I helped make a guide somewhere in the dev section. It is takes a lot longer than an ruu but it's possible.

But you still end up with the superuser icon in the menu.

No you don't you remove the superuser icon when you have root you can use adb to remove the icon and other stuff rooting adds to your phone

ste,
i've tried the process you did a number of time.
i think it only worked on an AMOLED Desire (0n 2.1).
i've tried with a Froyo orange nand and tried to flash the latest OTA over it to get rid of root but it just bootloops.
dont know if there's anything else that could be tried....
i dont actually need to go back to orange stock but it would be nice to know if theres a way.

Yea the backup is from my phone which is amoled. I dont know if flashing the 2.2 update will let slcd screens be used. To get out of bootloop flash tge update twice. Once removes clockwork mod recovery. The 2nd time the update will be flashed on stock recovery and you should be out of bootloop

Pc36img.zip

Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot. My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3. Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it. Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?

skennelly said:
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot. My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3. Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it. Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
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sorry. there is no root for 2.3.3 GB yet. Many are working on it, so hopefully that will change soon. I feel your pain as my phone broke and the replacement had GB on it already when I got it

skennelly said:
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot.
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Great device
My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3.
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Unrevoked is my preferred root method.
Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it.
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Why not? Is there not a flashable OTA update floating around these forums?
Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
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Why are you unrooting his device? If it's to get the OTA 2.3.3 update, wouldn't it be easier to flash a rooted stock froyo rom, go to the system update setting and then update? Of course, I'm assuming that is what you're trying to do so forgive me if I misunderstood your post.
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Ok, sorry for not being very informed. He tried to update to the ota but it failed. I assumed that it must be because the s-off since he hadn't done anything but tether.
He really has no need to be rooted because the only thing he wanted todo was tether. Now, I have turned the s-on, but the pc36img fails to update.
Is it safe to just check for/install the system up? Or does the phone need to be unrooted?

dougjamal said:
Great device Unrevoked is my preferred root method. Why not? Is there not a flashable OTA update floating around these forums?
Why are you unrooting his device? If it's to get the OTA 2.3.3 update, wouldn't it be easier to flash a rooted stock froyo rom, go to the system update setting and then update? Of course, I'm assuming that is what you're trying to do so forgive me if I misunderstood your post.
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Can he do this with s-on? If not, how can I turn it back off?
Last, could you provide a link to a stock rooted rom I could flash?

skennelly said:
Can he do this with s-on? If not, how can I turn it back off?
Last, could you provide a link to a stock rooted rom I could flash?
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If you already have S-On, all you need to do is flash the ruu that coincides with software 3.70 or 3.29. You can download any of the ruus for the EVO by clicking on the RUU link in my signature. Also, there's a link to rooted stock roms in my link, as well.
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dougjamal said:
If you already have S-On, all you need to do is flash the ruu that coincides with software 3.70 or 3.29. You can download any of the ruus for the EVO by clicking on the RUU link in my signature. Also, there's a link to rooted stock roms in my link, as well.
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Awesome! Thank you very much. I'm on my phone now, so I'll check it out when I get to my laptop.

Before you do something you will regret, go back and use unrevoked asap. Get back to S-off. If you turn S-on, and then take the update, you can not go back at the moment.
Flash a stock rooted gingerbread rom...

lil_bono said:
Before you do something you will regret, go back and use unrevoked asap. Get back to S-off. If you turn S-on, and then take the update, you can not go back at the moment.
Flash a stock rooted gingerbread rom...
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Honestly, my bro-in-law doesn't need root. Here I am trying to fix his problem. I've spent more time on this than I should. I mod my X, but the evo confuses me some.
Are you saying he can take the ota rooted, with s-on?

You need S-Off for permanent root and ability to flash custom ROMs. So before you take the OTA for him, as long as the phone is 2.2, run Unrevoked once again and install AmonRa.
Does he even like Sense? I would suggest trying one of the setups from my sig, or even MIUI if he doesn't need 4G.
You could have S-On and get the OTA, which would make his phone unrootable and boring, or you could just root back and flash a ROM with better battery life (I hear that Calkulin's works great, but so do other ROMs)
Before you do anything, try showing him pictures of MIUI, SalvageMod, MikG or another ROM and ask what he likes best.
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Oh, and he would need a custom ROM with tethering unlocked for the ability to tether for free. And he would need S-Off to put that ROM on.
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skennelly said:
Honestly, my bro-in-law doesn't need root. Here I am trying to fix his problem. I've spent more time on this than I should. I mod my X, but the evo confuses me some.
Are you saying he can take the ota rooted, with s-on?
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I understood from your earlier post that your brother-in-law didn't need root and thus the reasons for the answers I gave. Yes, he can accept the OTA while S-ON and he will indeed upgrade his device to 2.3.3, however, should he wish to unroot afterwards, he won't be able to until an exploit can be found. I take it your friend isn't the type of person who flashes roms, mods, kernels and such.
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skennelly said:
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot. My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3. Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it. Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
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check your hboot version and S off status
if its hboot 2.16 and S on, you are boned since you unrooted it when you took the gb update
so basically...dont tell your friend that you screwed his chances to root yourself lol
the correct route would have been to flash with a rooted stock GB ota wich was already out there, but its too late now : /
welcome to the "wait for root" boat with us, leave your bags by the door you will be here a while

tropicalbrit said:
Oh, and he would need a custom ROM with tethering unlocked for the ability to tether for free. And he would need S-Off to put that ROM on.
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you can thether without being rooted
download pdanet app on phone and on pc you want to tether on
hotspot requires root or paying sprint though

I really appreciate everyones help, don't get me wrong. However, I'm sitting here doing all this research and trying to get help for my in-law who thought he needed root and wanted to tether. He doesn't even use tether. I'm not showing him any custom roms. He lives three hours away and i'd be doing all his leg work/fixing his problems.
All I want to do (and him as well) is get him to gb stock unrooted and be done with his phone.
So, if the s-on is on, but the su app is still in the app drawer, and the pc36img.zip failed. If he selects settings>about phone>check for updates, will this get him to gb?
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Yes, he should be able to do as you stated above and be updated to 2.3.3?
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Thank you
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[Q] How do I update to Gingerbread? ROM Manager Causing Issues

I want to update my G2 to Gingerbread 2.3.3 but for some reason when my phone restarts for the update to take affect I see the little green android with the progress bar. It stops without reaching 100% and I get an installation error. Why wont it upgrade? Could ClockworkMod Recovery be the culprit?

I don't know for sure but I would think so. Manually push the stock recovery (find it on the forum somewhere) back via adb and try again maybe? Either that or just flash the entire pc10img and u definitely won't have a problem. You will lose all your data tho.
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JosepHenry said:
I want to update my G2 to Gingerbread 2.3.3 but for some reason when my phone restarts for the update to take affect I see the little green android with the progress bar. It stops without reaching 100% and I get an installation error. Why wont it upgrade? Could ClockworkMod Recovery be the culprit?
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So if you have ClockworkMod Recovery, that means you're rooted.
What are you trying to update to 2.3.3 with? Are you taking the OTA? You can't do this (or really really shouldn't) when you're rooted.
If you're rooted, head to the dev section and pick up a pre-rooted 2.3.3 OTA release. You'll keep your root and be upgraded to 2.3.3 like you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211143 I used this one. Its literally just the OTA, pre-rooted. No radio, just the ROM. Flash through ClockworkMod recovery. You should backup apps with something like Titanium Backup first, because its in your best interest to wipe all data through recovery before flashing.

Thanks guys. I honestly didnt know that I wasnt suppose to update/install official updates if my phone has been rooted. The pc10img ROM xsteven77x didnt work for me but the one martonikaj suggested did.
Once again. Thanks! Problem solved.

JosepHenry said:
Thanks guys. I honestly didnt know that I wasnt suppose to update/install official updates if my phone has been rooted. The pc10img ROM xsteven77x didnt work for me but the one martonikaj suggested did.
Once again. Thanks! Problem solved.
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Yep no problem. Just know that when you're rooted, you can no longer take any official update. Gotta do it on your own manually with pre-rooted ROMs.
Feel free to click "thanks" for my post glad I could help you out.