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I've see much vids of Desire but none of them reveal the capabilities of the new joystick. What are its functions, is it more close to joystick or a trackpad?
its like the trackball of the other android devices, just optical -> u can slide over it....and if u hold your finger on the optic sensor u can klick with it, somebody said in a video that u'll get hardware feedback when using the optical joy
edit: at 0:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLjsEP_D3Os&feature=related
Yeah I saw that vid. Simple swiping and clicking can be done with touch screen either. A demonstration of more precise operations is needed.
djet said:
Yeah I saw that vid. Simple swiping and clicking can be done with touch screen either. A demonstration of more precise operations is needed.
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What more precise operations?
Thats all you're going to do with it lol, swiping and clicking.
brummiesteven said:
What more precise operations?
Thats all you're going to do with it lol, swiping and clicking.
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A real joystick or a real trackpad allows much more than swiping and clicking.
For example, you can hold a joystick direction to trigger autorepeat or make really fast movements without taking finger off.
it's an optical trackball, for want of a better term.
In the same way that you get optical mice as opposed to a mouse with a ball in the bottom. The optical trackpad is simply an optical version of the scroll ball... in other words, same functions as the regular scroll ball without the moving parts.
djet said:
A real joystick or a real trackpad allows much more than swiping and clicking.
For example, you can hold a joystick direction to trigger autorepeat or make really fast movements without taking finger off.
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Would this be your first android device?
You don't really need to do that in android, I don't think I ever have on the G1
brummiesteven said:
Would this be your first android device?
You don't really need to do that in android, I don't think I ever have on the G1
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It would be usefull in some apps like games or emulators.
there may be an option to add shortcuts when clicking at home screen......like one tab go to appA two tabs go to appB...dunno some imagination
ClausG76 said:
It would be usefull in some apps like games or emulators.
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This is what I want too.
Dont want my big thumbs messing up the whole screen.
I look forward to the optical tracking system. I suppose it may be because I don't play action style games. I'm more of a puzzle/cards kind of guy. There are very few times I play phone games any how.
Actually i can't see the optical version making more sense, than the mechanical.
I personally almost never use it.
I believe its main uses would be as a hardware camera-button (that is, for taking the photo), and to scroll in text when typing.
Yep....Useless....I use my trackball about once every couple of days. Touch here and touch there is much faster... Oh wait I use it whenever I install a new ROM.. Just checking the threads trying to find something.
&RoidRage said:
Yep....Useless....I use my trackball about once every couple of days. Touch here and touch there is much faster... Oh wait I use it whenever I install a new ROM.. Just checking the threads trying to find something.
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That's why desire is good, no trackball sticking out! Nice and small button with optical tracking ;-)
Can it be used like the N1 trackball for missed calls and sms??
Blinking lights I mean
Just to answer a couple of questions:
1) There is no notification light on the optical trackpad.
2) I've tried this with the Nesoid emulator and while it works, it's pretty terrible to use for directional control, but maybe OK for any games that require 'swiping' motions.
jpxdude said:
Just to answer a couple of questions:
1) There is no notification light on the optical trackpad.
2) I've tried this with the Nesoid emulator and while it works, it's pretty terrible to use for directional control, but maybe OK for any games that require 'swiping' motions.
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does the onscreen pad and buttons support multitouch? you can use dpad while pressing A for example?
Gibbz1 said:
does the onscreen pad and buttons support multitouch? you can use dpad while pressing A for example?
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Hi There,
It does support Multitouch, but it is pretty fiddly, I think because the image of the onscreen d-pad and buttons to not line up exactly on the Desire with Nesoid. I have had more luck with the multitouch using Snesoid, which feels very good! (i.e, in Super Mario All-Stars I can run and jump at the same time)
is there any on-screen virtual touchpad or trackball that would permanently dock at the bottom of the screen that would move a 'mouse' like pointer or selection area on-screen? with the evo having just a large touch screen, there's no way to 'highlight' things without just pressing it with your finger. Does this make sense?
the touch input htc keyboard has those 4 navigation arrows across the bottom of the keyboard, which i'd love to port to swype too, but the only way to use them is to open the full keyboard, which covers too much of the screen if you aren't typing something.
BTW - did everyone know if you hold down(long press) the menu button, you can toggle the keyboard anywhere you are, not just a text-input box? love it
you should really try searching the forums, there is already a thread on this idea.
younggunner said:
you should really try searching the forums, there is already a thread on this idea.
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gee, that was helpful... I was wondering the same thing, actually, and DID search the forums and found nothing. If someone happens to know which thread is being spoken of here, I'm sure a link would be appreciated...
i did try search
i also found nothing, thats why i posted.
wlpywd said:
i also found nothing, thats why i posted.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730693
type3 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730693
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that, I believe, is actually not what he's talking about. I believe you are looking for something along the lines of Virtual Trackball, version 1.2 is out
NOTE: i believe it requires ROOT, so make sure you're rooted.
onelovekir said:
that, I believe, is actually not what he's talking about. I believe you are looking for something along the lines of Virtual Trackball, version 1.2 is out
NOTE: i believe it requires ROOT, so make sure you're rooted.
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If you go all the way through the thread, it is about Virtual Trackball by the end of it. In the end, they wanted Virtual Trackball to use the touch sensitive area on the search button. The developer never really got back to them.
But the OP seems to want something like the CM6 mouse support without actually needing to use a mouse. Admittedly, this would be kind of cool. Ultimately though, you'd be using a portion of the touch input to control a mouse that is simulating using your finger. It's a little redundant seeming.
Besides editing the .kl files, is there something else I need to do to remap the click function of the optical pad? I don't seem to have any success so far...
In both the incrediblec-keypad.kl and qwerty.kl files, the following line exists:
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key 232 DPAD_CENTER WAKE_DROPPED
I have tried simply changing "DPAD_CENTER" to "CAMERA" (in both files) and then rebooting, but the phone does not behave any differently. If I use this same procedure for a different key (like Volume-Up, for example) it works perfectly. Is there something else in the framework that is preventing remapping of the optical click though?
For what it's worth, I'm running Virtuous 3.0.1... though given the fact that I can remap other keys, I'd assume it isn't a ROM issue
I tried the exact same thing. My one problem with this phone is that I can't bind something to this key. I would LOVE to get it to load the camera. I made a thread a few weeks ago, but no one responded. I was thinking making dpad_center isn't actually the right identifier for this key? BUMP!
I wish I could find a way to wake the phone up consistently with the track pad.
1967ls2 said:
I wish I could find a way to wake the phone up consistently with the track pad.
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I second this
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Gahh Its Lee said:
I second this
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There's a forum dedicated to this tweak
I'm using it now
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Search optical joystick wake
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So no one has any solutions for mapping the camera to the optical click?
intenselyinsane said:
Search optical joystick wake
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I ran a search for "optical joystick wake" and I don't seem to be able to find the thread you are referring to.
From forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825511[/url] it appears that key 232 is incorrect. It should be key 272.
Runawaycoder said:
From forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825511[/url] it appears that key 232 is incorrect. It should be key 272.
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Thank you very much! That is quite helpful. Let me try some experiments on my end and see if I can get this working now...
First off, let me offer major thanks to TheLynxy for clearing up the whole 232/272 thing: I was wondering why rebinding the optical trackpad click never did anything (I was leaving it at 232)
What I've always wanted to do with mine was map it to be a camera button. It would seem that still does not work, even now using the correct key #
If I use the following, nothing at all happens (the phone doesn't even wake up)
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key 272 CAMERA WAKE
Interestingly, however, using the FOCUS command instead will wake the device, but still does not start the camera (even if the camera is already running in the background)
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key 272 FOCUS WAKE
TheLynxy said:
When the phone is on, the trackpad behaves like normal, eg the active application decides what the button does.
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This is another interesting point about the whole thing. It seems like this is a button that is really on lockdown by the phone.
So while some progress was made, I still can't get the camera functionality I wanted. Oh well.
Has anyone had the chance to see if N.O.V.A. 3 has native controller support? I bought it last night but I won't have a chance to try until later this evening.
I looked at some info and seen nothing about custom controls. I am in the process of purchasing it, but if it is like any other Gameloft game there will be no custom controls. I am really on Gamelofts case right now about this as well as their games would be the bomb on the big screen using the Wiimote or sixaxis.
BTW with the ICS builds Wiimote works flawlessly.
reddragon72 said:
I looked at some info and seen nothing about custom controls. I am in the process of purchasing it, but if it is like any other Gameloft game there will be no custom controls. I am really on Gamelofts case right now about this as well as their games would be the bomb on the big screen using the Wiimote or sixaxis.
BTW with the ICS builds Wiimote works flawlessly.
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wait you can use a wii mote with ICS??? how would i do that? what games could that be done with?
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Has anyone had the chance to see if N.O.V.A. 3 has native controller support? I bought it last night but I won't have a chance to try until later this evening.
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i have nova 3 installed and sixaxis too but when i start the game with the sixaxis open it simply FC and freezes the screen.
I just basically took a screenshot of the controls and added the buttons manually in the touch emulation.
Sixaxis now works just fine with nova 3 for me
I'm currently running the latest version of (The Goodness) Rom by Mijj
moodswang said:
I just basically took a screenshot of the controls and added the buttons manually in the touch emulation.
Sixaxis now works just fine with nova 3 for me
I'm currently running the latest version of (The Goodness) Rom by Mijj
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Any chanche you could upload your settings from titanium or something so we could install it?
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spyvingen said:
Any chanche you could upload your settings from titanium or something so we could install it?
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OK I did same took pic and assigned buttons. Only thing I had difficulty assigning left and right swipe controls for weapon change. And I'd put my nova 3 profile on here but don't know how
moodswang said:
I just basically took a screenshot of the controls and added the buttons manually in the touch emulation.
Sixaxis now works just fine with nova 3 for me
I'm currently running the latest version of (The Goodness) Rom by Mijj
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How did you it so you can switch weapons and grenades? Don't you have to swipe across them to switch? Got everything set up but that! Help plz!
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Ind3lible said:
How did you it so you can switch weapons and grenades? Don't you have to swipe across them to switch? Got everything set up but that! Help plz!
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OK well I went back to the profile I had and I put left button over the weapon switch and assigned it as swipe left. And I chose the right button for over the grenade switch and assigned it as swipe right. I haven't been able to assigned one to switch powers yet as the one I assigned to use powers covers the space lol
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bobby2703 said:
OK well I went back to the profile I had and I put left button over the weapon switch and assigned it as swipe left. And I chose the right button for over the grenade switch and assigned it as swipe right. I haven't been able to assigned one to switch powers yet as the one I assigned to use powers covers the space lol
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OK here is pic
bobby2703 said:
OK here is pic
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So basically press one after the other to make it a swipe or u push those both buttons together? Thanks man!
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Ind3lible said:
So basically press one after the other to make it a swipe or u push those both buttons together? Thanks man!
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No mate just asign one button I tried 2 and it didn't work so asign a button for switching weapons ie left then double tab it and go to button properties then u can choose swipe left or right and then just do the same for the grenade switching. Button use a different button ie right button then do same again double tab and button properties. Hope this helps. I'm totally new to sixaxis so still trying to figure it out myself lol
reddragon72 said:
I looked at some info and seen nothing about custom controls. I am in the process of purchasing it, but if it is like any other Gameloft game there will be no custom controls. I am really on Gamelofts case right now about this as well as their games would be the bomb on the big screen using the Wiimote or sixaxis.
BTW with the ICS builds Wiimote works flawlessly.
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here you go skip to 4:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gq_ZU9p5Nk&feature=g-all-f
I'm going to get a Gnex soon, and one of the main things I will want to do play my old games. I heard the soft keys are not on screen when not used, so what do you do to bring up the soft keys? And if they were always there that would kind of ruin the experience for games and movies, wouldn't it? I plan to use bt and on screen controllers so if the keys were always on screen that could cause problems. Thanks for helping a noob.
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I'm going to get a Gnex soon, and one of the main things I will want to do play my old games. I heard the soft keys are not on screen when not used, so what do you do to bring up the soft keys? And if they were always there that would kind of ruin the experience for games and movies, wouldn't it? I plan to use bt and on screen controllers so if the keys were always on screen that could cause problems. Thanks for helping a noob.
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The soft keys turn into a dot, it will still be there.
The API for it is for videos, where you won't be touching your screen. Once you touch your screen, the button,s will pop back out, so the API won't work for games.
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The soft keys turn into a dot, it will still be there.
The API for it is for videos, where you won't be touching your screen. Once you touch your screen, the button,s will pop back out, so the API won't work for games.
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Thanks for the info. What does API mean? I Googled it but I couldn't figure it out. So on an emulator, the d-pad may be right next to the softkeys and possible to hit at any given time? Also, when outputting with HDMI to a TV, are the keys or dots on the tv? Thanks again.
ARPwizard said:
Thanks for the info. What does API mean? I Googled it but I couldn't figure it out. So on an emulator, the d-pad may be right next to the softkeys and possible to hit at any given time? Also, when outputting with HDMI to a TV, are the keys or dots on the screen? Thanks again.
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Nah, i did not hit the softkeys on accident while playing pokemon
Outputting on HDMI is basically mirroring your phone's display, so the softkeys will still be a dot.
API: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface
Mach3.2 said:
Nah, i did not hit the softkeys on accident while playing pokemon
Outputting on HDMI is basically mirroring your phone's display, so the softkeys will still be a dot.
API: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface
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Cool thanks. Sounds good. I'm hoping for a price drop on Monday, and I'm still deciding about the gnex or an unlocked gs2 skyrocket. I'm a big fan of the gs2 aesthetically having used an epic 4g touch extensively.
the benifit of on-screen buttons is when your finger slides from the display area to the navbar, it knows and doesn't do anything (unless you lift your finger before pressing it)
so in games like osu it's so helpful (i have accidentally pressed the back button on my razr while playing)
You can always use a custom ROM that allows you to disable the buttons in the power menu. I know AOKP has it and it works flawlessly.
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Cool thats good information thanks for helping a noob