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Windows Mobile 7 in Live Mesh Commerecial

Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RY-q8k2RRI
It appears at the 0:33 mark. Compare what you see to the following photos:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/is-this-windows-mobile-7/561239/
What do think? Did Microsoft just give us glimpse into the next version of Windows Mobile? I'm pretty exited over this if you can't already tell.

WOW!
It's on the nike too!
Can't wait to see if they release it for the nike!
=]
Good luck to you excalibur users, My brother owns one =]

wreiad said:
Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RY-q8k2RRI
It appears at the 0:33 mark. Compare what you see to the following photos:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/is-this-windows-mobile-7/561239/
What do think? Did Microsoft just give us glimpse into the next version of Windows Mobile? I'm pretty exited over this if you can't already tell.
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What do I think?
I think I will see what Android offers.
I don't see anything interesting in those pictures.

spikey911 said:
What do I think?
I think I will see what Android offers.
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Ditto. And I hope it's a little more spiffed than what I've seen from the SDK emulator and the "leaked" pics of the supposed first phone.

spikey911 said:
What do I think?
I think I will see what Android offers.
I don't see anything interesting in those pictures.
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Then... Why are you here?
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Now playing: Marilyn Manson - tourniquet
via FoxyTunes

Ok here
Better Quality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFpwzg-AP_Q&NR=1
What do you guys think now? Doesn't it look pretty similar to the photos?

wreiad said:
Then... Why are you here?
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Probably to find out things about the Dash? Maybe to soak in new tech, but hay i'll say the same doesn't look impresive and i'm def not here to listen to Manson

wreiad said:
Then... Why are you here?
<annoying foxytunes crap snipped>
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I'm here because I believe in helping people get the most from their dash through greater information availability...that and I actually *like* some of the guys on this board.
That having been said, I'm not a fan of Microsoft who, unless there is significant competition from one or more outside sources, will *not* innovate since they know they have consumers by the balls.
I'm all for checking out Android since it's open-source. As it's about the only thing that promises major, widespread, worldwide consumer competition for Microsoft, it will hopefully light a fire under their respective asses to actually improve their stagnant PDA-phone operating system. The supposed WM7 pics and videos might be a start, but they're already way behind.
I've used smartphones since WM2002, and it really hasn't changed fundamentally since then. To use the current political language, Microsoft can only keep putting fresh lipstick on a pig for so long.

wreiad said:
Then... Why are you here?
<Foxy Tune b.s. snipped as well>
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That's a dumb question...
I am here because I own a Dash and I LOVE it.
I am here because YOU asked for our opinions.
I am here because this is a GREAT group of people with a lot of knowledge and skill.
However this discussion is about WM7, which the Dash WILL NOT HAVE.
Those Youtube videos don't even show 2 seconds worth of video of the phone, what exactly are we supposed to see?
Thanks for asking, but next time if you want peoples opinions, don't always expect them to agree with yours....
Beartard, you are absolutely right, I have had a PPC since day one, and its pretty much the same today as back then..

Wow, tough crowd. I appreciate the video surfacing again, and it shows some things which we did not appreciate then:
1) Sliding panels is coming to WM Professional.
2) The live mesh integration client is pretty cool.
3) WM7 is going to look cool too.
For the people looking for change over the years, I have been using WM since 2000, and I have seen plenty of change.
Surur

My Tilt 2 Unboxing Vid

I'm not a professional since I had to do it while needing to rush back to work but here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8BxpXEBwbg

Nice work, but I cannot see the use of unboxing videos.
EDIT: no offense towards you personally meant by my reply

Thanks for the vid!

Darn, I was waiting for you to show the device and you ended right there but great vid.

kuzibri said:
Nice work, but I cannot see the use of unboxing videos.
EDIT: no offense towards you personally meant by my reply
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Unboxing videos are for people who don't yet have the gadget, but are wanting it. There are few things as fun in a geeks life as opening a new toy and playing with it for the first time. Unboxing is kind of like geek porn in a way.

kuzibri said:
Nice work, but I cannot see the use of unboxing videos.
EDIT: no offense towards you personally meant by my reply
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Haha I never understood either.

scooler said:
Unboxing videos are for people who don't yet have the gadget, but are wanting it. There are few things as fun in a geeks life as opening a new toy and playing with it for the first time. Unboxing is kind of like geek porn in a way.
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Haha, you hit the nail on the head with that one, and I can relate to that because I myself am a gadget geek. However, when watching unboxing videos, I tend to feel impatient and jealous. Instead of just shutting out normal customers completely with the early release, why not just charge non-premiere customers an additional fee, that way both sides are happy, AT&T gets more money in their greedy little hands, and the non-premiere customers get the option of getting it early.

Windows Phone 7 Update – Multitasking, IE9, SkyDrive Demo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxeruijggGs
Found from http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/15/windows-phone-ie9-video/

Maaaaaan.... So sick feel bad for people who don't wanna join the wp7 bandwagon
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Very impressive. Looks to be a major performance update. Can't wait.

ceo4eva said:
Maaaaaan.... So sick feel bad for people who don't wanna join the wp7 bandwagon
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What did I do?
Dizmatic said:
Very impressive. Looks to be a major performance update. Can't wait.
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Yeah looks very slick and with SkyDrive integration only major thing I want now is a better navigation app and direct to outlook sync (no cloud junk).

cool looks great.... faster spped, multi tasking and sky drive support as well...cant wait to see it in action on my hd7...

ceo4eva said:
Maaaaaan.... So sick feel bad for people who don't wanna join the wp7 bandwagon
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i dont get you.... do you know that most of the users dont care about those things will be updated as to them a phone is a phone and as a phone my HD7 is better then any other phone in the market...
if i give my phone to my 80 year old dad he will be able to use it as its simple and easy to use....
i think MS have done a great job in finally creating a simple user friendly mobile OS... and the best of all it do not hang or lag...

truffle1234 said:
i dont get you.... do you know that most of the users dont care about those things will be updated as to them a phone is a phone and as a phone my HD7 is better then any other phone in the market...
if i give my phone to my 80 year old dad he will be able to use it as its simple and easy to use....
i think MS have done a great job in finally creating a simple user friendly mobile OS... and the best of all it do not hang or lag...
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LOL! I think he's just saying that the update looks sick. And he feels bad for the folks that DONT want to join the wp7 bandwagon. I mean he is using an HD7.

janemanno1 said:
What did I do?
Yeah looks very slick and with SkyDrive integration only major thing I want now is a better navigation app and direct to outlook sync (no cloud junk).
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I actually really like the cloud based services, and there was once a time I hated them. The convenience is just so remarkable that I don't think anything else can come close. I remember a time when I thought the bluetooth sync was the greatest thing that happened to my WinMo device because it took me away from a USB cable... Then I was given an exchange access and my life changed forever lol... I don't think I ever want direct sync again... The cloud has become my home.

wow really?
noone looked further then skydrive? i even skipped this part..
take a look at 3:58 ... when ie9 gets compared to safari
awesooome!
or wait..
legen .... wait for it...

Ya, the video stuff is great with IE9, but it still doesn't do flash.. and that's most of the videos (non youtube) that I want to watch.
Hopefully soon!

legbuh said:
Ya, the video stuff is great with IE9, but it still doesn't do flash.. and that's most of the videos (non youtube) that I want to watch.
Hopefully soon!
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Again, most of you fail to realize that implementing HTML5 and Silverlight are Microsoft projects. Flash on the other hand is an Adobe project, one they would need to code and supply for the OS. As much as I'd like to have it, it isn't a deal breaker to be completely honest, and I hope that HTML5 has caught on a lot more by then... I already read somewhere that Flash 10.2 is coming to our phones 'soon.'

Yeah I think within a year of its initial crippled released WP7 will shape to be a very good mobile os. The signs are good so far but all MS needs to do is relate and communite with their user base better.

Worth getting a WP7 ?

Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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I would personally wait for Nokia WP7, Thats when you'll see some good hardware / camera etc...

I bought mine two weeks ago. It is not perfect, i'll not lie. But it is the OS that I like most (I have iPhone 4 and Droid too). Android is laggy, even with overclock, and it feels.. like a beta. Worse, Alfa version. Everything is smooth and pretty in WP7.
I was willing to wait for Nokia devices, but i read that Nokia will only release one phone this year. And seriously, I don't trust Nokia. I don't want to buy Nokia's test phone, and I don't want to wait until next year.
Just buy it already, and join us

mikeeam said:
I bought mine two weeks ago. It is not perfect, i'll not lie. But it is the OS that I like most (I have iPhone 4 and Droid too). Android is laggy, even with overclock, and it feels.. like a beta. Worse, Alfa version. Everything is smooth and pretty in WP7.
I was willing to wait for Nokia devices, but i read that Nokia will only release one phone this year. And seriously, I don't trust Nokia. I don't want to buy Nokia's test phone, and I don't want to wait until next year.
Just buy it already, and join us
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For 3 iterations, I've always said android feels incomplete. Even on the tablet side, android feels very incomplete and I guess this has made OEMs feel like they can do what they will to cover android's shortcomings - specifically in their management of OS, fragmentation, and acceleration.
The iphone felt finished to me - even if I didn't like the iphone platform at all. Everything just worked and ran quite effectively. It was cohesive and central when it was released.
What I enjoy about windows phone is that it carries the cohesion of apple, and totally ramps it up full blast making it an incredible platform to code on, experience, and use on a daily basis.
I do miss flashing custom roms for one reason - I HAVE A DELL VENUE PRO and so far its one of the most closed wp7 devices on the market! Period! But even then, the only thing I want is root access to the registry. Not so much optimize much because the os is damn good as is.
Are there limits to windows phone 7? Sure all platforms have limits. But I think in time windows phone will definitely be a household name. All it really needs is good advertising at this point.

My biggest issue with WP7 right now is not the missing featurs, but rather the lack of quality hardware. That having been said, the Samsung Focus is very nice. It takes amazing pictures. The screen is big and beautiful. It is sleek, and has long battery life. My only complaint is how slick the plastic is. Would have been nice to have a more rubbery texture to it or something.

Like every OS WP7 has its cons and pro's but to me it's just the experience as a whole that stands out to the rest. I'd certainly recommend a WP7 device to everyone who wants to buy a smartphone. Certainly the one's who owned an Android device before like myself.

I'm happy with my Trophy. I love the hardware. Have a nice grip, and an awesome screen. Not too large, nor too small. It's just the perfect size to me.
The plastic doesn't feel cheap, and doesnt look cheap. I recommend. And it is worth a look.

Thanks for feedback ... I use the following apps remote desktop, facebook,Twitter,slingplayer,navigation and need a good quality camera .... I'm looking at the apps market to see if I can find any apps like this..... I was disappointed to see no flash for browser....
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LG Quantum == great hardware
I love my LG Quantum.
I need a keyboard for business emails. I sometimes write mails on it longer than I do at my desktop computer. Try that on the on-screen keyboard.
But, if I just have a few words, the on-screen is fine. And the word-correct is amazing on WP7.
Friends at work have Samsung Focus and love it. Most people DON'T need over 8GB of flash, because with ZunePass, one can stream what one doesn't have, and then just download what they want to keep.
WP7 really is GREAT STUFF, and getting better with time.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e

intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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this is a really silly question, ppl who like android will tell you no and ppl who like wp7 will ask you to move....
this is really very personal... its like you asking ppl what car should i buy
you should buy if you like wp7 not because ppl think u should buy...

best thing you can do is go play with different devices in the store and see which one you like better.
WP7= fast and smooth, works out of the box great.
Android= very versatile, but does have some lag and might require some tweaking to get the best out of the device.
Just depends on what you are looking for.

intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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+1 on this. I read an article in another post and it has me holding off a WP7 purchase for now. 5-reinstal limit on paid apps! Hell no! It aint worth it if that's how it's gonna be. At least being a smartphone it will have all the common features on phones these days, but the 5-limit will kill it for me.

Dam a limit ... well well..... that's no to wp7 .. thanks for letting me know about that
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truffle1234 said:
this is a really silly question, ppl who like android will tell you no and ppl who like wp7 will ask you to move....
this is really very personal... its like you asking ppl what car should i buy, thats total bull ****...
you should buy if you like wp7 not because ppl think u should buy...
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I don't think its a silly question... so far people that have had both have given me pros and cons those who have moved to wp7 have shared what they miss .... I am asking for owners experience of the phone... not if they like the color of the device...
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FriedWP7 said:
+1 on this. I read an article in another post and it has me holding off a WP7 purchase for now. 5-reinstal limit on paid apps! Hell no! It aint worth it if that's how it's gonna be. At least being a smartphone it will have all the common features on phones these days, but the 5-limit will kill it for me.
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To be clear - there is NO 5-reinstall limit.
The limit is 5 devices.
Why can't people get this simple facts right?

digime said:
To be clear - there is NO 5-reinstall limit.
The limit is 5 devices.
Why can't people get this simple facts right?
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Don't look at me dude. The article was official and from a microsoft answer guy. Don't hate on ppl who believe what it says. Did you read the word in that screenshot? ****! I'm a big time gamer and **** things up all the time. I might have to reinstal my games a bunch of times. Pay once dude. No more.

FriedWP7 said:
Don't look at me dude. The article was official and from a microsoft answer guy. Don't hate on ppl who believe what it says. Did you read the word in that screenshot? ****! I'm a big time gamer and **** things up all the time. I might have to reinstal my games a bunch of times. Pay once dude. No more.
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What are you talking about?
I'm not hating on you. I'm telling you dumbass tech sites have once again failed to check their facts. You can reinstall as many times as you like.

digime said:
What are you talking about?
I'm not hating on you. I'm telling you dumbass tech sites have once again failed to check their facts. You can reinstall as many times as you like.
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No offense dude but until I see oficial word from microsoft that it aint true, I'm gonna hold back.

Well for me - yes and no.
If you don't care so much about features than WP7 is in many ways great.
But for me after 3 months of extensive usage - I start to have enough of stupid limitations. In March we will get only c&p and no other functionality enhancements.
I like how this WP7 behaves but it's totally unfinished product.
I rather accept a little choppiness but have all the features than use super fluent skeleton.
BTW this WP7 super fluent behaviour is a little myth. I see little freezes all the time.
More I think of it I see myself getting Android device soon. I don't care if it is "choppy", what is kinda BS TBH. I saw many current strong Androids which are smooth.
And they have oh so much more to offer right now. Sad but true.
I can't even buy apps and nobody knows WHEN this will be possible. And so on.
It will take a year or more to bring WP7 to desired state and I think some of the very useful features will not be supported ever.
Sorry for the rant but after the joy of using something nice has worn off, I just more and more miss features which are cruical for me and it's more than one thing.
I imagine getting SE Arc....
But I still didn't "give up". WP7 is still a great foundation.

intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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If you've been using Android especially with Sense I don't see how you could ever switch to WP7. I have an HTC Incredible and I bought an HTC Surround to play around with a week ago. The Surround has already been sold. After using Android for years WP7 seems like a joke right now. It is almost closer to a feature phone than a smartphone. I was going to keep it just to use as a Zune and for the Xbox Live features. My original Zune 30GB is 5 times the music player a WP7 phone is. The Xbox live stuff...I'm playing a game, let me switch to something else for a second...Go back to the game, wait loading? Oh yeah, no multitasking.
Maybe if you were coming from a feature phone WP7 might seem nice, but it is far behind Blackberry, Android, and iOS. Even my Samsung Blackjack with WM 6.1 was far more usable. It sucks because I am a Microsoft fanboy. I love my Xbox, my Zune, Windows 7, etc. But WP7 is pretty bad I thought.

Nexus commercial. Nice job Google

Simply the best commercial for a nexus I have had the pleasure of seeing. Nice job Google
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DAlO9Mt7-XA

LOL, nice
but it only shows the power of video conferencing, doesn't show the neat stuff the phone

now if only they'd release the damn phone lol

AllGamer said:
LOL, nice
but it only shows the power of video conferencing, doesn't show the neat stuff the phone
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Lets face it people who have only heard about it for the first time from a tv commercial dont care about the neat stuff they just want to beat box with 8 of their mates .
Mark.

Z51 said:
now if only they'd release the damn phone lol
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it's released... only at selected countries ATM

xda mc club anybody? scratches record

Rubbish commercial.

Wow, I hope GNs hold they're own in a spit collector test.

IMO, this commercial looks to attract US based customers. Am I wrong?

mstyle88 said:
IMO, this commercial looks to attract US based customers. Am I wrong?
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no, i kept looking for the verizon v on the phone..

Goes to show you how subjective these things are. I thought that commercial was AWFUL.

nyijedi said:
Goes to show you how subjective these things are. I thought that commercial was AWFUL.
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i thought it was awful too but it still brought a smirk to my face. i used to know people like that.

nyijedi said:
Goes to show you how subjective these things are. I thought that commercial was AWFUL.
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You have to agree its better than Verizon DROID commercials that show you absolutely nothing about the phone right?

I thought that was a pretty terrible advert to be honest.

It seems like it was targeted toward young people.

martonikaj said:
You have to agree its better than Verizon DROID commercials that show you absolutely nothing about the phone right?
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IMHO the Verizon Droid commercials and the Droid brand identity in general are some of the absolute worst marketing decisions ever made. It's like they don't even want women and older people to buy the devices.

Chirality said:
IMHO the Verizon Droid commercials and the Droid brand identity in general are some of the absolute worst marketing decisions ever made. It's like they don't even want women and older people to buy the devices.
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Agreed. I have a few of my iPhone friends ask me sometimes "I want to buy a Droid but when I look at these commercials I have no idea what the hell it does...Am I supposed to go into space with it or something?"
That whole "mysterious space age" stuff isn't exactly attractive to the mainstream market. Maybe only techies and sci-fi lovers.
On topic: I thought the commercial was a little limiting (doesn't show everything about the device), but yes, something like THAT does attract the mainstream market a little more.

Chirality said:
IMHO the Verizon Droid commercials and the Droid brand identity in general are some of the absolute worst marketing decisions ever made. It's like they don't even want women and older people to buy the devices.
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Agreed. They're just terrible.
That's why I like these new Nexus commercials. They actually show people using the phone for real world stuff.

That advert is ****.
It would be nice if they did an advert in the UK, I've never seen an advert for a Nexus handset.

Out of all the Galaxy Nexus commercials I have seen thus far I think this one is probably the best and appealing to most people: