In the newest version of AMON Ra recovery v2.3 when you go to the nandroid backup it gives you a checklist of things you can backup. Which ones should be checked.
Theres:
boot
system
data
cache
recovery
wimax
sd-ext
.android_secure
I'm assuming that you only need to backup boot system data recovery and wimax right?
I believe that boot, system, and data are checked by default. They should definitely be backed. If you already have your wimax img then no need for that one. If not, then back it up at least once then for subsequent back ups, it's not essential. Some people check everything at least for the first back up, but if you go with what I mentioned at first, then you will be fine. Good luck
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I believe that boot, system, and data are checked by default. They should definitely be backed. If you already have your wimax img then no need for that one. If not, then back it up at least once then for subsequent back ups, it's not essential. Some people check everything at least for the first back up, but if you go with what I mentioned at first, then you will be fine. Good luck
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I agree with phantom!
I did everything except sd-ext, which I think is only necessary if you set up a partition. The default ones should be ok, but make sure you have those wimax keys backed up somewhere.
So I backed all the boxes except the SD-EXT and I have a backup of my wimax.img. This was done with Amon v2.3 last month. I now have so many flashes I somehow lost my Wimax as I can't get onto the 4g network and Wimax Key checker from the market says I lost my keys. So I restore that backup that has the wimax.img and it restores with no errors except I'm stuck at the boot screen and won't go any farther. Pull the battery and reboot into Amon, wipe the cache and delvik cache and still same problem.
So can I take that wimax.img and move it to another backup folder and restore it from a differant backup?
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I realized recently that my nandroid backups were not completing correctly (see pic). I noticed this because I have done numerous nandroid backups and there is only one backup showing in the nandroid folder. It always says "backup complete" but above that it looks like it might not be completing correctly? Is there a way to reinstall nandroid backup?
this is normal...
I've experienced problems with backups in Amon Ra as well. I've had a lot more success backing up via Rom Manager through Clockwork. Just an FYI for the future.
tyrnight, what is normal? and how come when I just ran this Nand backup, I have no new backups in the nandroid folder?
MSmith1, I thought Clockwork isnt a complete backup like Nandroid?
ryan2202 said:
tyrnight, what is normal? and how come when I just ran this Nand backup, I have no new backups in the nandroid folder?
MSmith1, I thought Clockwork isnt a complete backup like Nandroid?
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*sigh*
clockwork is a recovery just like amon is a recovery -
THEY BOTH have nandroid backup feature... its just as easy if not easier in clockwork and yes it is a complete nandroid backup
ryan2202 said:
tyrnight, what is normal? and how come when I just ran this Nand backup, I have no new backups in the nandroid folder?
MSmith1, I thought Clockwork isnt a complete backup like Nandroid?
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Clockwork & Nandroid are two different things. Amon RA & Clockwork are two different recoveries, & the nandroid backups can be performed by both of them.
I'm personally using Amon RA's recovery because i heard Clockwork doesn't wipe data as it's supposed to.
In the image you posted you are using clockworkmod backup/recovery. Therefore your back up images are in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup, not nandroid.
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In the image you posted you are using clockworkmod backup/recovery. Therefore your back up images are in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup, not nandroid.
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exactly...
OK I think I got it now. I thought Nandroid backed up differently than the Clockwork or Amon tools. I didnt realize the Clockwork (which I have been using) is a COMPLETE back up of the phone. I thought it was only backing up the ROM and not the data and apps, etc.
So since I have Clockwork/Amon through ROM Manager I can just use that to run my complete backups instead of going into Nandroid through recovery mode?
You can only use Clockwork to backup via ROM Manager. If you use Amon RA you'll have to manually boot into Recovery & backup from there.
Clockwork is not working properly. It is not backing up sdcard's and is not wiping all data. I recommend just using nand and quickboot however the new clockwork flashed over nand had to reinstall Nand Recovery via adb etc..
I'm new to this all myself but I think the reason it won't back up the SD card is because it would have to backup the entire card and where would it put the file? I'm guessing your SD card would have to be large enough and partitioned for it to write the backup to. That is total speculation of course...
First of all, according to the pic, your sdcard is pretty critically low on space so a nand backup probably won't complete fully. Second, the message about android.secure is a directory reference that occurs if you have transferred your apps to your sdcard. Since it can't find the directory, I'm assuming you aren't using apps2sd. The second message about the sd-ext directory only applies if you've actually created a secondary partition on your sdcard. So just because it skips those two areas doesn't mean that the remainder of your data has not been backed up.
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I recently upgraded my Amon RA to the latest build (2.3)
I like all the new choices but I'm confused about what I should be backing up when making a Nandroid.
I made one that backed these parts up:
[x] boot
[x] system
[x] data
[x] wimax
Is that good enough? Should I backup recovery too? I understand sd-ext and .android-secure backups will take more space and time to create. But are the ones I listed above pretty much the only essential things if I ever need to flash a backup?
yep...
I would make a backup of just wimax, then there would be no need to back it up again.
Depends on your amount of paranoia about being able to recover. I backup my entire phone, including my SD card, prior to flashing any ROM. So far I haven't had any issues recovering. Granted I'm new to rooting and flashing ROMs...so haven't had enough time to really bork things up.
I know my b/u is over kill, but I'd rather spend the few extra minutes getting everything than find out I missed something if I need to recover.
HTC Evo
Rooted, but still stock...for now
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The program is designed to work, if it's not, we have a problem.
You are good to go with your backup scheme.
You don't need to backup WiMax every time. Just back it up once, separately, then backup boot, data, and system regularly.
i have four or five nands on my card that i checked every option for. cant hurt...
Thanks for all the replies guys.
I'll take it all into account and do an "in case of catastrophic data loss" backup (in other words, full on backup, full checks)
And keep it to the OP scheme i had for future backups.
@n00bhackin
I'm the same way. Better safe than sorry.
Yep, wimax is a seperate backup.
Before backup, wipe cache and dalvik cache (reduces size of backup file and forces dalvik to be rebuilt when recovered).
At a bare minimum: boot, system, data
If you use apps2sd, backup .android.secure also unless you want to reinstall some apps.
If you use apps2sd to a ext3 partition on your SD, backup SD:ext for the same reasons above.
If your not sure which apps2sd you are using;
1) check on your SD the folder .android.secure, got apps there then its option 1.
2) if you use dark tremors apps2sd, then you know what it does and you back up option 2.
It would be awesome to have a .ini file on the sd with various defaults already enabled.
Maybe next in the next version
Hi,
I have searched around not found clear answer about this. I've been having Virtuous Sense w/Fixes & Enhancements : DZ Base 1.85.72.2 (v1.0.2) ROM -installed for a little while with stock kernel working fine. It was getting so slow, so yesterday I decided to try out Virtuous Unity Sense 3.0 based on Pyramid with Streamline SenSe Test Kernel v2 2.6.35.13 for Virtuous Unity Sense 3.0 because someone recommended it.
So I did full backup with Clockwork Mod recovery (the same as nandroid?), did full wipe and tried it out. Did not like it and thought too much work with starting everything all over again. So I went to clockworkmod recovery and restored backup I took earlier. After it I had an idea, I could install Virtuous kernel to make things run smoother. So I installed Virtuous Advanced 1.1.2 kernel which is recommended for Virtuous 0.9.5 or newer. Since I have 1.0.2 it was ok.
When starting system, my wallpaper and almost every app data was gone. Home screens were empty. I thought it should have restored my earlier settings completely? Does new kernel cause this? But I could have lived with it. Except
Virtual keyboard did not have finnish laoyout, no ä's and ö's. Neither there were international layout in settings. Outer keyboard works though.
HTC Clock/weather cannot find my city. In weather app when you search manually, there is about only 5 cities from Finland. Why?
Screen flickers sometimes and won't turn on if I dont' rape it on.
There is nothing in SMS, my messages are lost! I thought they were supposed to be synced in from Google like usually?
EDIT: Oh and yeah, Android Market website says "No devices detected"
Only good thing is this runs smooth and fast unlike any kernel I've used before. The problem is I want it to work without problems, like before. Did I install wrong kernel? What is good kernel for virtuous, with finnish weather and layout? How to fix these things?
How I can restore the kernel I had before? How can I fully reset the phone like how it was when I bought it?
I would really appreciate the help! Thanks in advance!
From what you are describing it looks like you're data partition was not restored, you can reboot in clockworkmod and format data and cache, afther that from the advanced restore menu you can restore only the data partition, that way you will have the new system with the advanced kernel, and you old data.
If you want to completely restore the old system you have to format data and cache, from the "mounts and storage" menu format /system and from advanced format dalvik cache, after that you can restore you're backup.
When I flash a new rom after all my settings I always do a nandroid backup, that way in case of something goes wrong or the rom becomes laggy, I restore the nandroid backup and I don't have to go thru all the pain of customizing the phone again.
Just wanna make sure I'm understanding correctly..
All your data was fine after you restored your nandroid; it wasn't until you flashed the advanced kernel that things went wrong?
tun4f1sh said:
Just wanna make sure I'm understanding correctly..
All your data was fine after you restored your nandroid; it wasn't until you flashed the advanced kernel that things went wrong?
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Thanks for the answers!
Sorry for being unclear. No, the first time I restored nandroid I didn't see my wallpaper and all my app data seemed to be lost. I thought it was because of I tried Unity with different kernel, but of course it could not have been, because nanroid should restore everything as it was, right?
I have now installed Unity again to test, but I don't like it, some bugs and so much to do all over again, so I'm going to try to restore the earlier virtuous 1.0.2 backup again, will report here how it goes...
The thing is, I'm not sure if the backup went right, because when I backuped it I didn't check the output message. The backup size is 1,3 gigs so I guess it went right... but i'm officially f*cked if the space ran out during the backup or something like that... but tryin to restore it again now...
So what I did now again (this is what I also did before) in this particular order:
CWM Recovery:
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe cache partition
Advanced -> Wipe Dalvik Cache
Backup and restore -> Restore -> 2011-07-03.18.40.43/
Reboot
(took about 15 minutes)
The result: "Loading... this could take few minutes." everything seems to look fine, but there is default wallpaper and empty home screen with home button and long press -tutorials. It is syncinc, so some credentials are there, but for example foursquare app asks for accounts... the app info are mostly not there. This is what my problem was in the first place when restoring. Could Unity installation somehow affect my files, or something?
If you want to completely restore the old system you have to format data and cache, from the "mounts and storage" menu format /system and from advanced format dalvik cache, after that you can restore you're backup.
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Trying this now. Just made the point out what was my problem. Thanks! Will report, if it's okay to you.
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If you want to completely restore the old system you have to format data and cache, from the "mounts and storage" menu format /system and from advanced format dalvik cache, after that you can restore you're backup.
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Now I tried it like this:
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
mounts and storage -> format /cache
mounts and storage -> format /data
mounts and storage -> format /system
advanced -> wipe dalvik cache
backup and restore -> restore -> 2011-07-03.18.40.43/
reboot
...and the result is the same stated in first message. Things buggy / missing.
ionut.micu said:
When I flash a new rom after all my settings I always do a nandroid backup, that way in case of something goes wrong or the rom becomes laggy, I restore the nandroid backup and I don't have to go thru all the pain of customizing the phone again.
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Yeah I always nandroid backup also, but this time it did not restore as expected.
Use a file manager and go into sdcard - clockworkmod - backup - 2011-07-03.18.40.43, can you confirm that you got data.img in that folder, if not then your data wasn't backed up (in my backups data.img is about 150mb).
If data.img was backed up
Reboot into clockworkmod
backup and restore
Advanced Restore
2011-07-03.18.40.43
Restore data
If that doesn't help your data partition was not backed-up correctly and I think there is nothing you can do.
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If that doesn't help your data partition was not backed-up correctly and I think there is nothing you can do.
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It seems to be the case that it did not backup the whole thing, space run out or something. I did not double check the backup result, my bad... This is confirmed because I just restored the 2011-04-28.09.01.03 backup and it took about half an hour, a lot more than the most recent backup which was supposed to be bigger.
I will remember from now on, double check backup every time before full wipe!
Alright, my stats:
Sprint's network
HTC EVO 4G rooted (I think using unrevoked, awhile ago)
Live in edmond/Tulsa OK
was running cyanogenmod 7
Here's the problem:
1. I tried to make a nandroid backup with ROM manager premium
Got stuck at HTC EVO splash screen on reboot
2. tried to make a backup manually.
Got to bootloader screen, then went to recovery. Stuck on splash screen
3. Found a thread telling me my recovery didn't flash, and it gave me a link to a zip file with a copy of clockwork recovery, I think it was version 3.
The suspicious thing is, ROM manager still thinks i'm running clockworkmod recovery v5, but it clearly says i'm running 3. something when i'm actually in recovery.
4. flashed above mentioned recovery, made nandroid backup, flashed to stock HTC evo rom to use the ##GPSCLRX# thing which did not help. It wouldn't even bring up an MSL password box. (I am having numerous bugs with cyanogenmod, including GPS)
5. Now i'm trying to restore back to my nandroid backup since the GPSCLRX thing did not work. thing is, it doesn't have the same sort of file structure as the stock evo rom. My phone doesn't think it's a nandroid backup.
The backup i'm trying to restore to is not compressed at all, actually. there are 8 files in the folder:
.android_secure Disk image file
boot Disk image file
cache Disk image file
data Disk image file
nandroid MD5 file
recovery disc image file
system disc image file
wimax.HT0AEHL07834 Disc image file
Which is totaly different from the HTC evo stock rom folder structure, which is a compressed folder and has META-INF folder, a system folder and a boot.img file
What I'm thinking is that i'm trying to flash a backup from a different recovery version.
Anyway, Expert thoughts on the subject would be much appreciated on any part of the matter. I would mostly like to get all my settings back though. After I find a way to get cyanogenmod back, i'm planning on using this thread to get my gps to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239713
Don't be Beech, Be Russian; Use Amon Ra
Give Amon Ra 3.08 a try. One of it's key features is that it can restore CWM backups AND it's native Amon Ra backups. I have it installed, and I have the same problem w/ ROM Manager--it says I still have CWM, which is false. So I just uninstalled it, which you can do since Amon Ra isn't compatible with it's features. You can find it in my signature, just click on "Amon Ra 3.08".
Don't use ROM Manager. That's just a fact. It doesn't do anything but create problems.
Don't use CWM. People have had problems with CWM Nandroids
When you restore a backup u do it through the backup option. You don't flash it like a normal rom which from your post is what I'm understanding you are trying to do. In the backup option or nandroid or whatever its called on cwm there should be an option labeled restore, select it, locate your backup, select it and then select restore and let it run, first make sure you flash a format all zip or wipe all the options except battery stats and SD card, included wipes should be factory reset/data, boot, data, system, .SD_secure, sd-ext and any other options aside from SD card and battery stats
Sent from my iCS'd out EViL4G, soaking in a bowl of Ramen Noodles
And I agree to get rid of rom manager and cwm I personally use the amon RA style supersonic recovery v3.08 which I would recommend for you coming from cwm as this version will allow you to still use your backups made with cwm although I would recommend restoring what ever backups you want to keep after you change and making fresh copies with amon RA and then deleting the cwm counter part, also you should make a backup of just the wimax option in amon and then save it in dropbox or attach and email it to yourself and save the email if you don't have dropbox just keep it somewhere safe besides just your phone and PC incase you have a loss of data
Sent from my iCS'd out EViL4G, soaking in a bowl of Ramen Noodles
amon ra is the way to go.
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it's never failed me, and the full backups are quick.
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Hello,
Yesterday I was up to surfing on my GNex running CM10 nightly 2012-08-2?, but it just hung, vibrated, showed me the Google logo and booted up again. This is not unusual since it is a very early build, but when it was up again and demanded my PIN, I could hardly enter 3 digits when it hung and rebooted again. After 6 times it really annoyed me and I pulled out the battery.
I tried booting in Safe Mode, but that didn't work either. So I wiped system and both caches, flashed the same build again, same problem
I can imagine that wiping data would help, but my last backup is quite a few weeks old and I don't want to lose my data so this would be the very last solution.
I hope someone will be able to help me
qsuscs
Oh, maybe this could be important: I use ClockworkMod Touch 6.0.1.0
You could try to flash the newest nightly and see if that works, but in the end I think you are going to have wipe your data. You could make a backup from cwm and try wiping than restoring the backup. I don't know if that would help any but it could be worth a shot.
And dont restore app/system data.
Sent from my i9250
If you can still get into the recovery, you can run a backup and then restore apps/data from a nandroid via titanium backup once you get it up and running.
Nandroid does not really work.
Code:
ClockworkMod Recovery v6.0.1.0
SD Card space free: 7426MB
Backing up boot image...
Backing up recovery image...
Backing up system...
Freeing space...
Done freeing space.
Backing up data...
Error while making a backup image of /data!
Does anyone know why it doesn't, or maybe another backup solution?
Could I do a backup with another recovery? Or could flashing anotherr recovery even cause data loss?
Triple post hope you can forgive me
So I flashed TWRP. Nandroid didn't work there, too, but I think I know the reason: /data needs to be mountet read-only for the backup, but this is impossible when it is written to the internal storage (/data/media). And since neither TWRP nor ClockworkMod have a TCP stack, I'll need an USB-OTG-adaptor and an USB flash drive. Luckily, I know someone who has one, gonna ask him tomorrow...