[Q] How to remove brown metal frontring? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
My Desire felt down.
It is all okay, but the ring now stands a bit off and I am not able to bend it back by just pushing it, so I would need to get it off and bend it a bit and get it back on.
So has anyone experience with removing this part (only the brown metalring)?
I only found this guide: tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-tear-down
But is it really a need to disassembly the whole phone or is there a easy way to get the ring of? May be its just clipped?
Thanks in advance for your help.

After looking at that tear down, it looks like the Brown Piece is actually part of the front and isn't detachable. When you dropped it it must have broke this bond, however normally that shouldn't happen? Look carefully at the pictures near the end, it doesn't look detachable at all... I may be wrong though

Hm, too bad yeah, it fell really hard on concrete, so I am glad the display did not break.
As said everything works fine, but its just a matter of optic and feeling why I want to fix this, its a bit annoying.

On your screenshot, it looks asif there are clips that are supposed to hold the frame to the phone and it looks asif they have snapped off. If this is a case it looks asif you are going to have to buy a new front for your phone, but why don't you just get a cover? I have one that completely covers my phone, haven't received a dint since good luck.

Hm, right, the Idea of a case is not bad, if it is strong enough it could keep the ring in place. I'll try that I think, thank you.
I'll play a bit around, if I am able to remove it I'll post it here for future users.
Too bad that its metal and you cant just bend it by pressing on it.

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Hardware problem (buttons), please help.

over the past few weeks some of the buttons (namely left soft key, up and left) have stopped working, i've tried numerous roms just incase but it's definatley a hardware issue, now, i've dismanted the phone using the diamantos guide to see if anything jumps out at me, gave the phone a damn good cleaning whilst i had the chance, put it back together....but nothing, everything seems to be in order, all components in their rightful place but i still cant work it out, does anyone know if this is a common problem or if theres a fix as i've been unsuccessful in my searches.
actually, i just found the solution and it worked a treat, thanks anyway people.
btw, if anyone would like to know what i did then i'll be more than happy to share the solution.
godofwap said:
actually, i just found the solution and it worked a treat, thanks anyway people.
btw, if anyone would like to know what i did then i'll be more than happy to share the solution.
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I'll be more than happy
please share your solution with us, I have the exact same problem
ok, no problem, heres what i did.
before you start please be aware that this is a very delicate procedure and you should take care as this may naff up your beloved trinity.
ok, i first disassembled my trinity using the dimantos guide located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311463,
now, when you get to the keyboard / button pcb take it out if, you look closely you'll notice theres a thin adhesive plastic cover covering the metalic buttons, very very carefull peel this back (i used a sharp knife to get to it), making sure not to completely remove it, try to only expose the underneath of the buttons in question, you'll see that the buttons come away with the plasic leaving the underneath exposed, now, using a cotton bud and some lightly applied alcohol clean the contacts then when all is done, replace the plastic and make sure its firmly pressed back down you may notice it making a different, kind of sharper clicking noise when depressed than before meaning its worked, repeat for all buttons.
i think whats going on here is the gum or glue from the plastic film has "leaked" if you will, onto the plates meaning theres no contact from the buttons, this would also account for the very slight change in sound when you now press the button.
i found this info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-289737.html
i have the same problem with the front hardware keys. They last around 1 year, i had them changed under warranty the first time but now they are failing again.
Thank you! now i just have check for tools and some courage because i fear damaging my good old trinity.
temp9300 said:
i have the same problem with the front hardware keys. They last around 1 year, i had them changed under warranty the first time but now they are failing again.
Thank you! now i just have check for tools and some courage because i fear damaging my good old trinity.
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....hi to all dear friends!!after half an year of very hard work my trinity has the same problem....only central botton working but,the superior two,works if I do an hard reset!very strange!changing a lot of different roms,from w 5 to w 6.5 the problems doesn't solve...!
- I'd like to make your same operation but I'd like to know first if you too have they working on hard reset before trying....
thanks a lot and merry christmas!
yes, even after a hard reset they work for me, its as if it was brand new, bare in mind you may have a different problem so if your gonna try this, TAKE YOUR TIME.
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now, when you get to the keyboard / button pcb take it out if, you look closely you'll notice theres a thin adhesive plastic cover covering the metalic buttons, very very carefull peel this back (i used a sharp knife to get to it), making sure not to completely remove it, try to only expose the underneath of the buttons in question, you'll see that the buttons come away with the plasic leaving the underneath exposed, now, using a cotton bud and some lightly applied alcohol clean the contacts then
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I tried doing this but found no plastic cover above the metallic buttons. Maybe it's because mine went for repair with this problem before, dunno.
I don't think i can mess with the metallic part so i guess i'm stuck with this unless i buy a new keyboard.
it's more of a very very thin laminate, like sticky back plastic than a cover, it should definately be there unless they replaced the PCB with a different model, otherwise the metalic buttons would just fall away. Again, they may have used a different version of the PCB. You can actually buy the PCB and replace it yourself. (here http://cnn.cn/shop/p3600dopod-d810-keypad-p-1825.html )

Screen problem

I have a screen problem.
All over the screen it seems that there is a very thin strip of rubber or something.
On the right hand side, just below half way it seems that this has been pushed towards the greyish thing on the outside.
And it has been pushed up a little.
So i have put my phone sideways and there is a little dink which is where it has been pushed up.
Now you can see the dust is getting in the rubber thing.
And if you just roll your finger over the edge of the screen you can feel it.
Is there anything I can do about this?
you could perhaps describe it a little better, maybe take some photos..
I can not take a photo at the moment.
http://www.navigadget.com/wp-content/postimages/2010/02/htc-desire.jpg
The image shows three phones, but the one on the right, of it showing sideways.
Imagine a bump on the black thing, where the screen is.
So instead of being flat and smooth it is not!
sounds like a manufacturing issue, little hard to suggest things you could try. Might have to be a returns mission..
Sounds like you have dropped it or more likely it was damaged in transit from China.
Get it replaced.
I know that I have not dropped it.
I have been so careful that I put it back in the box when I am charging it lol.
It is always on a clean surface.
When I get a new device I am always careful. lol
It is like a baby! I suspect a lot of you are careful too!
I have only taken it out my house once or twice and that was when I went to work!
To replace it who would I have to ring.
Sorry i am a complete noob ... I am only 18!
Just to let you guys know,
I just rang up T-Mobile and got this very helpful person who will replace my phone!
She was very helpful and it was no nonsense!
She mainly did it because of my battery life and partly due to the screen!

[Q] USB rubber cover firm enough?

Hi all,
I've recently bought a DEFY. It works quite brilliantly and very fast.
I've noticed that the USB rubber cover of my DEFY is not very firm when closed. There is a little seam between it and the phone body, and the seam grows a bit thicker as it approaches the USB port side. I've included some pics of it.
Higher res pics are at
ishuo.de/images/defy1.jpeg
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ishuo.de/images/defy3.jpeg
(Sorry I don't have enough permission to directly link pics here.)
I've also spilled some water onto it under a water tap. When I opened it I could see some water drops on the edge of the inner side of the rubber closer to the back.
I don't know whether this is normal or defect and I'm not sure whether it will stay up against water which is one of its great and practical feature.
Can anyone compare it with yours? Are all DEFYs like this?
Thank loads and happy holidays!
Cheers,
Shuo
When I close mine I am careful to press it in firmly as otherwise it looks "not quite shut." It has to squeeze in there. I presume this what's suppose to keep water out and as I have dunked my phone countless times without incident. However, if you think yours is twisted or bulging when seated, I don't think that's right.
Mine doesn't have that small hump when in place. I think there is some extra rubber under the clip.
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s.yang said:
Hi all,
I've recently bought a DEFY. It works quite brilliantly and very fast.
I've noticed that the USB rubber cover of my DEFY is not very firm when closed. There is a little seam between it and the phone body, and the seam grows a bit thicker as it approaches the USB port side. I've included some pics of it.
Higher res pics are at
ishuo.de/images/defy1.jpeg
ishuo.de/images/defy2.jpeg
ishuo.de/images/defy3.jpeg
(Sorry I don't have enough permission to directly link pics here.)
I've also spilled some water onto it under a water tap. When I opened it I could see some water drops on the edge of the inner side of the rubber closer to the back.
I don't know whether this is normal or defect and I'm not sure whether it will stay up against water which is one of its great and practical feature.
Can anyone compare it with yours? Are all DEFYs like this?
Thank loads and happy holidays!
Cheers,
Shuo
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yeah mines got that, you get the bump when the cover gets bent the other way when you move it to get the usb cable in
After charging mine looks like it will stay with the bulge like that when I put the cover back in place, but even so, I can press it firmly, and it actually snaps into place. Sort of even has a clicking sound. I only started noticing this as before I would press it in even, and the bulge would stay there for a while and slowly smooth itself out, but now if I press it in, and then press my thumb/finger all the way around the cover, it snaps into place very tightly.
EDIT - After looking closely at mine I see the hole is actually at an angle, so pressing it in straight would leave it with the bulge. You need to press it against the angle of the phone for it to snap into place.
bobbyphoenix said:
After looking closely at mine I see the hole is actually at an angle, so pressing it in straight would leave it with the bulge. You need to press it against the angle of the phone for it to snap into place.
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exactly what i was about to say - works for me.
Wow you are so friendly guys.
Thanks lods! I'll look into it when I come back today!
I did get a slight feel of "snap in". Just dunked it shortly into water, and it still lives!
So I guess it's all right.
I get some moisture around the USB plug hole even when the cover is in place as well. Probably not a big deal. You can try using some grease to improve the seal as well.
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One review notes a small amount of "O-ring" sealant or grease around the battery cover rim. I supposed you could add a little. Just don't use vasoline, that's a pertroleum product and will degrade certain types of real and synthetic rubber.

modified back cover

so, i've got way too much time on my hands and was looking for a brushed aluminum style back cover to match our cameras online. I could find nothing. i started looking into the process of melting aluminum, which is surprisingly easy, as is creating the brushed effect. as of right now i currently have my back cover pushed into some drywall mud (no modeling clay) and drying so that i can form the second half of my mold. just thought i would inform you guys of my insanity!
TL;DR : trying to make an aluminum back cover from scratch.
extravillager said:
so, i've got way too much time on my hands and was looking for a brushed aluminum style back cover to match our cameras online. I could find nothing. i started looking into the process of melting aluminum, which is surprisingly easy, as is creating the brushed effect. as of right now i currently have my back cover pushed into some drywall mud (no modeling clay) and drying so that i can form the second half of my mold. just thought i would inform you guys of my insanity!
TL;DR : trying to make an aluminum back cover from scratch.
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I wonder how that will work as far as cooling is concerned. Post some pics when you've got it all set.
dbjungle said:
I wonder how that will work as far as cooling is concerned. Post some pics when you've got it all set.
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I think antenna reception would be a bigger concern. Still, I would totally plunk down some cash to buy one, if you figure out how to do something easily repeatable...
Keep us posted, this sounds like a really cool idea!
i'll definitely let you guys know how it goes. good to know people care because it will keep me from stopping half-way through. haha. i'll probably do most of it this weekend. the drywall mud was pretty dumb, im probably going to use a greensand mold and see what i can do with that. ill just do the dividing line along the back of the back cover.
the bad news: greensand is hard as hell to find at stores or anything
good news: i have scrap aluminum, and i can borrow my girlfriend's dad's propane torch. i went out and bought plaster of paris tonight. Going to set up the mold tomorrow morning and once it is hardened i can start the process of melting+pouring+setting the aluminum in the mold.
turns out walmart sells plaster of paris in a big purple box covered in flowers, which made it somewhat difficult to find considering nobody there knew what it was....
bottom half of the mold is set and drying. here's hoping i can get it back out. haha.
Looks like it might be kinda hard making sure the holes for the speaker are cut out properly!
i made sure the plaster got far enough into the holes to make an imprint, but not far enough to seal the back to the mold.
extravillager said:
i made sure the plaster got far enough into the holes to make an imprint, but not far enough to seal the back to the mold.
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thats good! Do you have a dremel or something else to smoothen out edges? Molds typically create a lot of extra garbage on the side that needs to be cut off... Your using aluminum right?
If yours comes out good and doesnt hinder the signal quality too bad, i think i might do the same
PMad said:
thats good! Do you have a dremel or something else to smoothen out edges? Molds typically create a lot of extra garbage on the side that needs to be cut off... Your using aluminum right?
If yours comes out good and doesnt hinder the signal quality too bad, i think i might do the same
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yeah, i've got plenty of tools and scrap aluminum. depending on how well it turns out/how it affects the phone i may offer to sell them to people on here.
that isnt to say that buying one will be the only way to get one. I will be sure to post a full and detailed tutorial when i am finished for anyone adventurous enough to attempt it.
No to be a pessimist but did you notice that there is something on the original cover that seems to be taped in the cover? I figure an antenna?
How will you do it?
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I've noticed no difference in signal quality with the back cover removed so I don't think the back cover's antenna helps a whole lot lol.
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stemalo said:
No to be a pessimist but did you notice that there is something on the original cover that seems to be taped in the cover? I figure an antenna?
How will you do it?
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i've been without a back cover while it is setting for about a day now and haven't noticed any adverse effects.
bottom mold is done, and looking pretty good besides a few air bubbles that i need to fill.
You may want to look at the back cover a little more closely. The warning message to not scratch the sheet makes me think the back cover also helps to serve as an antenna possibly??? Not sure, but it seems odd to have the warning.
About the sticker being an antennae, that never crossed my mind. For some reason I always assumed it was something to distribute heat away from the battery.
Both possibilities seem very plausible though.
schwin97 said:
You may want to look at the back cover a little more closely. The warning message to not scratch the sheet makes me think the back cover also helps to serve as an antenna possibly??? Not sure, but it seems odd to have the warning.
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it crossed my mind. however, like i said earlier, i was using the phone without a back for over a day and a half and didnt notice any adverse side effects (aside from the battery falling out.)
schwin97 said:
You may want to look at the back cover a little more closely. The warning message to not scratch the sheet makes me think the back cover also helps to serve as an antenna possibly??? Not sure, but it seems odd to have the warning.
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I think thats for NFC
nfc would be nice. How do we use it if its there?
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LED/earpiece hole

So got my new Z1C today, first thing I noticed was the LED lights up the whole earpiece instead of being a poxy little pinprick that you barely see on the XT, very nice!
Problem is on mine that little piece inside that actually lights up isn't quite straight. It looks like a waterproof gauze type thing made to light up I can't tell if whole thing lights up or something underneath? I pushed a little piece of paper into the gap to see how stable it was and it looks like only attached on the right. I'm worried if I drop phone it will come completely loose and more so this gap would let water into the earpiece area?
Please have a look at your own phones and tell me when LED lit, if you look straight in is it a clean line running up to the bezel thats lit of do you see a gap on left or right between bezel and LED?
Thanks
not sure what are you asking but here is how it looks on my phone
PS: sorry for all the dirt up there
Thanks for that! You managed to get a much better picture than me. The dirt being trapped by that mesh might look bad but its keeping the inside clean I imagine. On mine you can't really see in the bad picture but there's a little gap at the top on the left like the mesh wasn't put in quite straight so it's not reaching the bezel and i'm seeing dirt already trapped UNDER the mesh @ not even 24 hours old. Don't wanna just rinse thing under the tap either in case it's not waterproof in the area without that. Gonna send it back I think and get a replacement - better safe than sorry and it's a premium phone shouldn't have anything like this out of the box.
Cheer's for the pic mate
Gjole86 said:
not sure what are you asking but here is how it looks on my phone
PS: sorry for all the dirt up there
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Of course you can wash it out.
Seems a tad OCD, prepare to be laughed at in the shop, made me laugh just reading it.

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