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Sprint pushing me a system update... Root safe?

Quick question,
I'm rooted w/latest Starburst and ICS theme, and I accidentally allowed the most recent Sprint system update to go forward (12/12/2011 @ 8am [EST]). I did so without asking (here) if this was safe. So is it? I searched other threads and it appears that some recommend going back to stock prior to updating, while other swear that "re-stocking" is unnecessary.
So far (after 10 mins) I still have an exclamation mark triangle with a blue andriod guy. Not sure if this is normal. Thanks!
-Aaron

Aairman23 said:
Quick question,
I'm rooted w/latest Starburst and ICS theme, and I accidentally allowed the most recent Sprint system update to go forward (12/12/2011 @ 8am [EST]). I did so without asking (here) if this was safe. So is it? I searched other threads and it appears that some recommend going back to stock prior to updating, while other swear that "re-stocking" is unnecessary.
So far (after 10 mins) I still have an exclamation mark triangle with a blue andriod guy. Not sure if this is normal. Thanks!
-Aaron
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If you aren't on the "factory" ODIN odexed ROM with EG30 modem, the update will fail. The update from Sprint relies on the system files being in a particular condition and the update will fail if they are not in that condition.
I have heard that some people have perfectly working phones after rebooting (but not updated). If you want EK02 ROMs, they're available in the development sub-forum and would be easier to manage than returning to stock and accepting this update.
EDIT: You may need to pull the battery to get out of the update. Supposedly once you put the battery in, you'll get to CWM, and then should be able to boot back into Starburst. I haven't done this, so I can't confirm.

Go back to stock.
The update will fail.
Why not flash the update from here? Android 2.3.6 + root is in the development section.
Sources? Personal experience.
Sent from the future.

nivron said:
If you aren't on the "factory" ODIN odexed ROM with EG30 modem, the update will fail. The update from Sprint relies on the system files being in a particular condition and the update will fail if they are not in that condition.
I have heard that some people have perfectly working phones after rebooting (but not updated). If you want EK02 ROMs, they're available in the development sub-forum and would be easier to manage than returning to stock and accepting this update.
EDIT: You may need to pull the battery to get out of the update. Supposedly once you put the battery in, you'll get to CWM, and then should be able to boot back into Starburst. I haven't done this, so I can't confirm.
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You are correct, I pulled battery, was directed to CWM and rebooted system...all is fine (as it was before).
I saw QBKINGs videos on updating the Modem, but am not sure I want to go through with that until i figure out if the update is worth it. I am still not sure if this was an android version update, or an update that fixes LOS...or both. If I see a majority of members recommending this update, then I guess I'll jump through the hoops.
I tend to not have very much luck with tinkering with my phone. Something always goes wrong and then I loose 2 hrs of my day trying to figure out how to fix it. but I guess that's the name of the game...

SocialReject said:
Go back to stock.
The update will fail.
Why not flash the update from here? Android 2.3.6 + root is in the development section.
Sources? Personal experience.
Sent from the future.
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I'll check this out.
I know I SHOULD know this, but... what would the process be for getting 2.3.6+ root along with starburst Rom. Would I flash the above recommendation then flash starburst over it, then load my ICS them last?
P.S. please forgive my incorrect use of the technical terms flash and load. As you can see from my questions, I only have a cursory understanding how rooting/flashing/loading.....just enough to get my phone to the customized state that it is currently in.

If it ain't broke.... that's my motto and if you are not savvy with the phone I definitely suggest you leave your setup alone. Using Odin has got to be one of the easiest things to do though but once again if it ain't broke....

Aairman23 said:
I'll check this out.
I know I SHOULD know this, but... what would the process be for getting 2.3.6+ root along with starburst Rom. Would I flash the above recommendation then flash starburst over it, then load my ICS them last?
P.S. please forgive my incorrect use of the technical terms flash and load. As you can see from my questions, I only have a cursory understanding how rooting/flashing/loading.....just enough to get my phone to the customized state that it is currently in.
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Wasn't aware you were hoping to continue using starburst. I don't think starburst supports EK02 yet.
Sent from the future.

SocialReject said:
Wasn't aware you were hoping to continue using starburst. I don't think starburst supports EK02 yet.
Sent from the future.
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That was all I really needed to know...I am very happy with starburst... thank you!
Edit: last question For some reason I have a little "arrow loop" or "arrows in a circle" (in grey) in the middle of my top menu bar, and it is partially blocking the time. Did I induce this somehow, how do I make it go away (reboot didn't work)?

playya said:
If it ain't broke.... that's my motto and if you are not savvy with the phone I definitely suggest you leave your setup alone. Using Odin has got to be one of the easiest things to do though but once again if it ain't broke....
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Indeed. You wouldn't believe how many people make one tiny mistake in Odin and BAM it's all over.
Sent from the future.

Aairman23 said:
That was all I really needed to know...I am very happy with starburst... thank you!
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No problem
Sent from the future.

Aairman23 said:
That was all I really needed to know...I am very happy with starburst... thank you!
Edit: last question For some reason I have a little "arrow loop" or "arrows in a circle" (in grey) in the middle of my top menu bar, and it is partially blocking the time. Did I induce this somehow, how do I make it go away (reboot didn't work)?
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The arrows are the sync indicator (for any "pull" accounts or contact/calendar sync). You can check under Settings->Accounts & sync to see if any of your accounts are spinning. You can cancel the sync from there and restart it if you like. Sometimes they get stuck.

Aairman23 said:
Quick question,
I'm rooted w/latest Starburst and ICS theme, and I accidentally allowed the most recent Sprint system update to go forward (12/12/2011 @ 8am [EST]). I did so without asking (here) if this was safe. So is it? I searched other threads and it appears that some recommend going back to stock prior to updating, while other swear that "re-stocking" is unnecessary.
So far (after 10 mins) I still have an exclamation mark triangle with a blue andriod guy. Not sure if this is normal. Thanks!
-Aaron
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More to the point...I am rooted with stock EG30. Received update and failed so I assume I need to un-root in order to get this to install correct?

jeffvb9 said:
More to the point...I am rooted with stock EG30. Received update and failed so I assume I need to un-root in order to get this to install correct?
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You can do that, or Calkulin has a Stock EK02 ROM in the dev section, which would be easier.

I've been running my phone stock with the EG30 ROM and radio(s) since the day I got it. I originally rooted it using ODIN just to download su (my applications / data were not effected); I do not recall what this method was called. I have not messed with it since due to lack of time.
Today I got a notice about a new OTA firmware update. I let it try to update but it failed with the following error:
Code:
E: Error in /cache/182a027d4e63.SPH-D710_update_EG30_to_EK02.zip (Status 7)
I could be wrong but this error doesn't seem indicative of a failure to update due to the fact that I have root.
I rebooted the phone and it's still at stock EG30 and it states that there is no update available. The only thing I've tried since was to flash (using stock recovery still) a pre-rooted version of this update but it failed to "signature verification".
Can someone give me a pointer on what I need to do to get this phone updated preferably WITHOUT having to reload my apps/settings?
Thanks!

Followed this thread here and was able to update perfectly without having to wipe my data:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20233048&postcount=376
I think the issue may have been that I previously "integrated into ROM" some software via TB. Now have to figure out how to re-root.

Wayno-san said:
Now have to figure out how to re-root.
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Very simple, just look at the first post in that thread and choose Option A.

Whats the new "Android System Update"?

I just got an android 48.6MB software push on my phone today, anyone know what it is? for that matter where are the software pushes stored?

Perhaps the new EK02 update? It has been push for the past days system wide.

Use the search button, it is your friend...
Either way, its an update to get rid of the LOS issues people were having among other bug fixes. and as far as i know, it is stored in /cache

Didnt see it in /cache unless its hidden, thank you for reply it was EK02

Does anyone know how this would trouble rooting?
I know that I had been rooted, I applied the update (since I knew it was coming and what it was for), error message popped up and phone locked. As a result I used CWM and restored an old backup and sure enough everything is fine. Unrooted, factory reset, applied update. I am good.
Now how do I root? Can I root? What root method? I have been using the ZedoMax 4.1 root with Odin but I am not sure that this is the best root out there. Would any of these revert the update?
Thanks!

Booo 2.3.6/EK02 didnt fix shutter, focus sound now, I still wake the baby up if I take a photo. Is there a Non-Root kill for this that works 100% because I notice if you use the barcode scanner app it doesnt make a shutter noise.

hello all,
Can I do apply this update..?
I ask you because, my phone are only unlocked...I use my phone on Mexico
NOTE: The phone not ROOTED..!!
I waiting your response....

GeoJam3s said:
Does anyone know how this would trouble rooting?
Now how do I root? Can I root? What root method? I have been using the ZedoMax 4.1 root with Odin but I am not sure that this is the best root out there. Would any of these revert the update?
Thanks![/QUOTE}
I'm curious. After you restored an old backup and unrooted/reset, did the update get pushed to your phone again? Here's the easiest way to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
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DataHawg said:
GeoJam3s said:
Does anyone know how this would trouble rooting?
Now how do I root? Can I root? What root method? I have been using the ZedoMax 4.1 root with Odin but I am not sure that this is the best root out there. Would any of these revert the update?
Thanks![/QUOTE}
I'm curious. After you restored an old backup and unrooted/reset, did the update get pushed to your phone again? Here's the easiest way to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
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Yes. The update pushed to my phone. I didn't know if any of the previous settings would cause my phone to brick, but apparently it worked fine... no problems... flawless root.
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4NDR01D5 said:
Booo 2.3.6/EK02 didnt fix shutter, focus sound now, I still wake the baby up if I take a photo. Is there a Non-Root kill for this that works 100% because I notice if you use the barcode scanner app it doesnt make a shutter noise.
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theres some app for no shutter sound, it acutally might be called that no shutter cant remember..
If not, just flash a rom that has camera sounds removed?

So, I'm on Blazer ROM and I'm getting the update push. Will it brick me if I update? I seriously don't need that at the moment so its in my best interest to figure that out first before I go ahead.

Did anyone else try to update theirs? I have EK02 and Starburst 1.9.8. I just want to make sure this won't brick my phone or do any damage. I'm away from home for another three weeks and I wanna make sure this update won't make mine a useless piece of crap.

Annoying that root ed people are getting the update push as well...
Does that mean it's tied to your acct?
Should probably expect more of these in the future...I wouldn't install it on a root ed phone...

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Has anyone on a rooted Epic 4G Touch ran this update? And if so, did it unroot or brick anybody? I'm getting tired of getting the update notification pop-up.. I'm either going to follow the guide to removing it, or run the update, depending on any official word that it won't screw up my customized phone... I certainly don't want to have to redo everything.
Thanks in advance!

I tried to run the update it restarted my phone and it give me a explanation mark with green android icon. wtf does that mean??? I restarted the phone now the update message doesn't even pop up assuming it updated it???
Android version : 2.3.4
Kernel: 2.6.35.7 zedomax
hardware version: d710.10
buildnumber: midnight rom 2.0

I blindly installed the OTA yesterday.
I had Rooted stock version of 2.3.4.
Now I have Rooted 2.3.6.
Looked up information all yesterday and all I could see was LOS fix and system RAM was increased by decreasing the OS requirements (somehow). Some people said this
made their phone perform faster.
Right away I noticed I had to reset all my bluetooth connected devices.
No other problems were noticed. I am still rooted, woohoo.

Just tried installing this on the latest Blazer Rom (not the beta one) and got a error after restarting. It then booted into Team Rogue recovery and I rebooted the phone and now it dosen't ask me for a update. My baseband version is eg30 and kernel is ek02. Don't think I am doing something wrong, if I am can someone tell me

chaosbelow247 said:
Just tried installing this on the latest Blazer Rom (not the beta one) and got a error after restarting. It then booted into Team Rogue recovery and I rebooted the phone and now it dosen't ask me for a update. My baseband version is eg30 and kernel is ek02. Don't think I am doing something wrong, if I am can someone tell me
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same thing happened to me on my epic 4g touch. No update message yet.

deziking said:
same thing happened to me on my epic 4g touch. No update message yet.
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Well I think it's a good thing it didn't ask me because I didn't want the update considering I like my ROM. The update only fixes LoS issues and other problems. You can actually find the updated kernel on these forums and flash it to your phone if you have problems with signal otherwise the update really doesn't do much.
You can also flash to Blazer Rom EL13 beta rom and it will improve your data speeds but users have reported slower WiFi speeds. It also gets rid of the update message since its the latest update. ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
TL;DR: The update is useless unless you have LoS issues.

chaosbelow247 said:
Well I think it's a good thing it didn't ask me because I didn't want the update considering I like my ROM. The update only fixes LoS issues and other problems. You can actually find the updated kernel on these forums and flash it to your phone if you have problems with signal otherwise the update really doesn't do much.
You can also flash to Blazer Rom EL13 beta rom and it will improve your data speeds but users have reported slower WiFi speeds. It also gets rid of the update message since its the latest update. ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
TL;DR: The update is useless unless you have LoS issues.
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Sweet thanks for the info I'm going to update the kernel when I get home, I have been having Los issues.
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[Q] To Root or not Root?

let me give you some background info. I have owned my (AT&T) glide for less than a month coming from a overclocked milestone with CM7. Almost everyday I turn my computer on I go to XDA and skim over the rooting guides and the custom roms available. And then I read the "Read Before Updating" thread that says ICS is coming and it puts me off again. Even though my phone is unlocked and outside of the US now, so I not 100% certain I'll get anything. Every day I also check for updates on my phone, force check and everything.
So my question to you guys is this: Shall I patiently continue to wait it out in the fruitless hope something may well happen in the next month or two or bite the bullet and loose the bloatware now? I'm sure its a question on the minds of many glide owners right now

I put CWM + Osimood on mine just to get rid of the US-Centric bloatware, and am liking the cleanness of it. As you're in the UK too one thing you might sway you is that Osimood is based on Rogers which allows you to switch off 4G to save battery.

Why wait? Once it's out, it's pretty good chance it will be available here (or samfirmware). If you waited, would you even be able to get the AT&T OTA update through your UK operator? I would think you'd have to be on the AT&T home network to get the OTA.
But then again, it would take Samsung forever to finally get the ICS out for the CG.

lost_ said:
Why wait? Once it's out, it's pretty good chance it will be available here (or samfirmware). If you waited, would you even be able to get the AT&T OTA update through your UK operator? I would think you'd have to be on the AT&T home network to get the OTA.
But then again, it would take Samsung forever to finally get the ICS out for the CG.
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Agreed since you are not in the States and on the AT&T Network I would Root and install a clean Rom with no BLoatware. Then when we get the ICS you simply flash it.

Thanks for the replies guys
When I check for an update it does say it checks the AT&T server, whether its actually checking the AT&T server or its just a generic message and it actually checks my provider server who knows.
Think I'm going to bit the bullet and get it rooted today

Go for it! There's so much more you can do when you're rooted. I'll never go back.

Pablo 13 said:
Thanks for the replies guys
When I check for an update it does say it checks the AT&T server, whether its actually checking the AT&T server or its just a generic message and it actually checks my provider server who knows.
Think I'm going to bit the bullet and get it rooted today
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Root and flash or only root? Might as well jump all in while your getting your feet wet!

dudejb said:
Root and flash or only root? Might as well jump all in while your getting your feet wet!
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More than likely both
Just rooted it now, (well halfway there) seemed pretty easy to do, at least easier than my last phone.
when you flash the rom over you you do it in PDA section too or another option?
Just gonna download super user, ti backup, and a few other root only apps, have a quick play then flash to something else

Pablo 13 said:
More than likely both
Just rooted it now, (well halfway there) seemed pretty easy to do, at least easier than my last phone.
when you flash the rom over you you do it in PDA section too or another option?
Just gonna download super user, ti backup, and a few other root only apps, have a quick play then flash to something else
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If you did Clock work mod the instructions are:
1. Launch odin (v1.82 tested)
2. Boot your phone in "Download mode"
3. Select PDA in odin and choose the file "CWMR_recovery.tar.md5"
4. ONLY "auto reboot" must be check !!
Then just put aradat's kernel via CWM and your rooted. That is what I started with. Now I just flash everything with CWM and no longer touch Odin.

Right all fully rooted up.
In CWM it asks what device and only gives the choice of epic 4g and i9000 I tried the later and attempted to back up my current Rom and got and explanation mark in a triangle and a droid on my screen. not much happened for a few mins so i pulled the battery and rebooted it.
Any idea which I should select?
Thanks for all the help BTW

Pablo 13 said:
Right all fully rooted up.
In CWM it asks what device and only gives the choice of epic 4g and i9000 I tried the later and attempted to back up my current Rom and got and explanation mark in a triangle and a droid on my screen. not much happened for a few mins so i pulled the battery and rebooted it.
Any idea which I should select?
Thanks for all the help BTW
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Where does it ask you that? I did not get any prompts. I just went to flash from SD card and then chose the file I wanted to flash. Took a few minutes then the flash was complete and on reboot it took a little while in setting everything up and then I got the Google prompt for an account to use. Oh and if you say thanks feel free to use the thank you button.

Probably talking about the CW App on the Market (not supported, don't use it!)

Sorry for confusing you, not in recovery, in Rom manager.
Ive actually put mine down now and just spent the last few hours trying to root my girlfriend's HTC Sensation, which has been a bit more long winded.

Nice gl have fun!
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How to Force the OTA?

I feel like a moron because mine hasn't updated automatically from 4.4.4. Any way to force the Lollipop update? I already checked and have the 24 wait period in effect. Thanks!

Happened to me as well. Go into settings, time and date, uncheck the automatic date/time function and move the date 1 day ahead. I would reboot the phone just in case, and check it again.

efishta said:
Happened to me as well. Go into settings, time and date, uncheck the automatic date/time function and move the date 1 day ahead. I would reboot the phone just in case, and check it again.
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Weird - just did all that and it still says software is up to date. Any other suggestions?

Called AT&T to see if they could push Lollipop to my device. No dice. Tried the "move ahead one calendar day" trick, but it didn't work. Now it shows that I can't check again for 702 hours. Ha! Any other suggestions? Maybe it just hadn't rolled out to everyone yet. I'm in Chicago, if that matters.

If you don't have an issue wiping your data then you can use the stock Odin file in the general sub to flash it back to stock and update again.

I had my wife's phone updated with a push from AT&T. She had the same issue. They have to file a ti let and tech department did it but took a few days.

Hoshneer said:
I had my wife's phone updated with a push from AT&T. She had the same issue. They have to file a ti let and tech department did it but took a few days.
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Thanks for the help! Did you do it over support chat on their site or the phone?

nunyabiziz said:
If you don't have an issue wiping your data then you can use the stock Odin file in the general sub to flash it back to stock and update again.
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Thanks! Yeah, I might just do this.

Also if you factory restore your phone it will go back to the default 24hr wait.

I haven't really messed around with root stuff in a while, but I know even without root we used to be able to download the update, put it in the root or the SD card and rename it update.zip . Does this not work anymore? I really thought there would be a way to force the update somehow..

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I haven't really messed around with root stuff in a while, but I know even without root we used to be able to download the update, put it in the root or the SD card and rename it update.zip . Does this not work anymore? I really thought there would be a way to force the update somehow..
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That would work if someone has captured the zip file or the download URL, which no one has done. Virtually every 5.0.1 related thread has someone asking for this, with the same response. No one has it, and if they did, it would be available in a stickied post.

Oh the woes of waiting for updates lol.
I remember with my OG moto droid waiting for 2.1 lol.
And how 2.2 blew my mind. Now look at it.

i had to flash oem kitkat to my att note 4, which right after the flash immediately got lollipop.
if you do got to the Samsung kiosk have them re-flash kitkat. then the download for lollipop will update after setup.

Force update to marshmallow?
Hi, absolute idiot when it comes to stuff like this.
So, i was searching through my apps list when i noticed AT&T software update.
I dont need any AT&T applications as i am in Australia and do not have AT&T.
i have tried to force an update by following the clearing data and force stopping the Google services frame work.
tried it multiple times, nothing.
Then i thought i could disable the app of the AT&T software update, and then i fell deeper into the rabbit hole of how OSPolice got in trouble and how there is 2 versions of package disabler pro.
So here i am, stuck with 5.1.1 and i have no idea what to do.
No, i am not going to root it. This is an AT&T phone, with a bootlocker on it. If anyone, *ANYONE*, can help me solve this small issue that would be much appreciated.

Please Help. Update started and I dont know how to stop it.

So, every time I unlocked my phone it prompted me to install the update. I've been refusing it hoping that a root method would come about. Anyway in a sleepy stupor I accidentally hit the accept button, and the phone rebooted and started updating. I pulled the battery, but I don't know how to stop it. Anyone have any advice?
Thanks!

You pulled the battery while it was updating. If it even still works at all, that will be a miracle.

Try flashing the stock tar with Odin of the build u were on. Gonna lose data, but won't be upgraded hopefully.

Yeah, not one of my brighter moments. Phone still works. It updated to 5.0.1 bof1. I don't know how bad 5.0.1 bof1 is. It has another update it wants to do. Am I past the point of no return with bof1?

Yes you are. You should have used the safe update methods. This woild have eliminatedthe notifications

that's unfortunate :/

So if I am past the point of no return with bof1, should I just do all the rest of the updates, and at least have the advantages of the newest OTA? Does any of it break foxfi?

gijosh28 said:
So if I am past the point of no return with bof1, should I just do all the rest of the updates, and at least have the advantages of the newest OTA? Does any of it break foxfi?
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Foxfi works great on latest build.