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[Q] Oxygen notification widgets in DevNull?

Ok, I know alot of people were asking about this in the DevNull thread originally but now that Oxygen 2.0 is out it must be easier?
As much as I like Oxygen, Devnull just felt that little bit faster and the only extra feature I use is the notification widgets.
My (extremely limited) understanding is that this stuff is stored in system_ui.apk - would it be as simple as putting the oxygen apk into the devnull rom before flashing? Or would there be specific code that needs to be extracted and recompiled into the devnull stuff.
Cheers
(trying to keep oxygen and devnull threads clean, mods are cranky lol)

No. Adam said that the Google code changed for 2.3.3 and so the Oxygen Updater and Settings had to be rewritten and so on so you couldn't just whack it on. Oxygen 2.0 works just fine, just like DevNull. DevNull was just a straight 2.3.3 port from Nexus S (I think) with nothing else changed because like I said, the stuff Adam added had to be rewritten. The only difference between DevNull and Oxygen is the added settings and that's about it. So if you have DevNull and want the power widgets, just get Oxygen because it is the exact same thing.

Not sure you get me.
I understand you can't pull it from RC7, but given 2.0 final and devnull run on the same 2.3.3 base wouldn't you be able to pull it from oxygen final?
I just found devnull faster, and have no need for a2sd and the likes.

Sorry yeh was thinking about something else. You could try it, prob will work.
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Finally home so gave it a shot, just results in FC of systemui.
Nandroid is a wonder

Won't be possible - the pulldown Widgets are built into the framework, the systemui.apk and the oxygensettings.apk
Btw, the app2sd scripts in oxygen don't do anything at all if you don't have an ext3 partition on your SD card

GinbgerBread roms not quite there yet?

I have been testing a few gb roms including RCM and reflex. I have found them to be slower when compared to Leedrioid 2.4.1. Are the latest gb roms not quite there yet due to there currently been no official 2.3 ruu?

I have been using InsertCoin since the beginning and it has just gone from strength to strength. Very very fast and faster than Leedroid v2.4.1

Thats one I havent tried, will give it a go.

I'm using LeeDroid 3.0.5 GB and it's freakin' awesome! Built-in task management is such a welcome addition, works really well IMO...

I also used LeeDrOiD v3.0.5. It is really nice. But now i use Redux v1.2 (it is an aosp-gingerbread v2.3.3). It feels so much faster and smoother. Seems to be more stable, too. It does not have Sense, nevertheless i like it much more than leedroid after a short time for adjustment.
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insertcoin now is nice for me. v20 that is. tried v17 a week ago maybe and it was laggy at times. v20 is nice

Both Insertcoin and Reflex S roms are very fast and responsive roms. By the way, if you feel comfortable changing your partition tables (really easy with android flasher) You should give the CM7 partion table roms a go, they're even faster than the normal A2SD versions. (Insertcoin and RCMix have this for instance)

Hi, sorry for noob question.. hv never rooted/installed custom roms, but will do that very soon.
What are ext3 and ext4 partitions used for? in tutorials of the dev of InsertCoin seen that only ext4 created (so, why I am confused) & assume ext1 and 2 assigned already to the system, right?
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iLHaNroID said:
Hi, sorry for noob question.. hv never rooted/installed custom roms, but will do that very soon.
What are ext3 and ext4 partitions used for? in tutorials of the dev of InsertCoin seen that only ext4 created (so, why I am confused) & assume ext1 and 2 assigned already to the system, right?
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NB: Everything i say here i say under correction.
Ext 3 & 4 are extended file systems, these are needed by ROMS which use A2SD (Apps2SD). These file systems mimic "internal storage" space as when you use a custom ROM that uses A2SD all the apps you install will install to the Ext 3/4 partition. Normally if a ROM says its needs Ext 4 the you need to partition your SD card with a Ext 4 partition or the ROM wont work. Whereas if the sat Ext2/3/4 then you can use either.
Hope this helped

InsertCoin
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I have decided to go back to 2.4.1, so much faster than the current gb roms, will look at gb when the official software is out and the developers can tweak it.

I tried Redux and Oxygen. Fast gb roms imo.

i like Reflex S v1.9.9
But now Videocamera is still a problem

I had MMS issues on GB roms, despite they are quite fast, they feel too buggy to me, that's why I reflashed a stock Froyo rom (that is bug free)

Going from Froyo to Gingerbread
MatDrOiD said:
I also used LeeDrOiD v3.0.5. It is really nice. But now i use Redux v1.2 (it is an aosp-gingerbread v2.3.3). It feels so much faster and smoother. Seems to be more stable, too. It does not have Sense, nevertheless i like it much more than leedroid after a short time for adjustment.
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Hi. Could you pass on a little information to me please? I have Leedroid 2.4.1(Froyo). I'm using A2SD with an ext3 partition. Not using Sense.
Would like to give a Gingerbread ROM a try.
Is there anything I need to do special/different when putting a GB based ROM onto my Desire as oppose to when I've upgraded a Froyo based one?
I'm thinking Radio updates or Nandroid backup or....?
Thanks

miui rocks and now its 2.3.4 check it out miuiandroid .com

Yes i can confirm that, im using cmiui. Its the best miui version. I think its the best because i cant find bugs ^^
In Addition: if u try it u will never have an other rom. Anymor, so many features its incredible and so easy to use
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3f1f37 said:
NB: Everything i say here i say under correction.
Ext 3 & 4 are extended file systems, these are needed by ROMS which use A2SD (Apps2SD). These file systems mimic "internal storage" space as when you use a custom ROM that uses A2SD all the apps you install will install to the Ext 3/4 partition. Normally if a ROM says its needs Ext 4 the you need to partition your SD card with a Ext 4 partition or the ROM wont work. Whereas if the sat Ext2/3/4 then you can use either.
Hope this helped
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Thx mate.. and what about S-OFF ? is security-off a 'must' for custom roms? or just for some certain purposes?
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DevNull, the fastest ROM I've had since rooting back in May last year.
20 Seconds to boot from completely off, and insanely fast to use.

Chilldesire said:
I have decided to go back to 2.4.1, so much faster than the current gb roms, will look at gb when the official software is out and the developers can tweak it.
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Did you try insertcoin?

[Q] Question about ROMS , Kernels, and stuff like that...

So I've been doing this stuff for a while now and have become very fluent in the droid rooting lingo but I am getting mixed messages on a few things.
ROMS and Kernels...
I understand that Kernel changes how different pieces of the hardware are utilized and the ROM is more or less how to interact with the hard ware but can a ROM ( such as CM# ) have it's own kernel. Meaning if I installed such and such a kernel, then did a clean install with CM7, would the such and such be wiped out and replaced with CM7's own kernel?

Correct, when you flash Rom B, the kernel you had with Rom A is gone, but does exist in the backup, if you made one. Hence, when you restore Rom A, you get the kernel that was backed up with it.
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Alrighty. Second little question...can't seem to find a clear answer for this... Is CyanogenMod a "Sense" rom or AOSP?

AOSP
CM is an AOSP ROM. It is based on the android open source project rather than the HTC Sense coding. If you are using CM7 or any other AOSP ROM you will not have any of the HTC widgets or lockscreen or any of the touches that are sense. However there are lots of apps in the market that will mimick Sense pretty well. To include people widgets that are scrollable.
The allure of alot of the AOSP ROM's is that they run faster or smoother. This would be due to them having a smaller file size.
You can always give it a try and if you don't like it jump back to a backup... I always recommend a back up.
Hope this helps

Reizvoller said:
So I've been doing this stuff for a while now and have become very fluent in the droid rooting lingo but I am getting mixed messages on a few things.
ROMS and Kernels...
I understand that Kernel changes how different pieces of the hardware are utilized and the ROM is more or less how to interact with the hard ware but can a ROM ( such as CM# ) have it's own kernel. Meaning if I installed such and such a kernel, then did a clean install with CM7, would the such and such be wiped out and replaced with CM7's own kernel?
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My knowledge of CM7 is pretty limited, but in my experience, most (if not all) ROMS come with their own kernal that the developer likes best for his ROM.

[Q] New to root

I am runnig cm7.1 .... I was wondering if some one can tell me which room is the smallest and stable and off course the coolest. I just have 81.17 mg left in my internal memory.. i also have a 32gb sd card ... I love cm7 but i have no idea if there is a better and smaller room out there ...thx for you help....
Somenthig close to ics...lol

Try dGB (just klick on my sig).
For nearly unlimited internal memory use a ROM in combination with DATA2SD / DATA2EXT-script.

I believe you have to decide what you think is cool... Check out what other people choose and their motivations in the other thread... here
Personally I left Sense 3.5 projects and went to stable and fast, and installed AN-Droid 2.1.0 data++, that gave me speed, space and (for me) a bug free ROM.

An attic would be very small and cool. hmmph

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Does any body know is there is a room for htc desire call skyrider.... and also i saw like a spinning cube when u change screen to screen can any1 tell me how to get that effect....thx so much ... for ur info i am running cm7.1 and go launcher ex.. please help.... I want to make my droid sexier.....lol thx

small and stable ? well you can go past aosop based roms such as oxygen etc , if you need more space for apps you could use droid zones flashable data2sd script .zip , does the job well and since you have a large sd card it should work well etc ,dont forget to partian your sd before flashing this script .

Thank u . I'll Try it

Go for MIUI rom by XJ. Very fast, great support and stable.

Miui is very different and you would want to test before using it daily... questions about ROM's are awkward because ithere is no best rom, its your opinion..

My 2 cents:
what ROM is the best it's hard to say, because it depends on what are you looking for.
Usually when it comes to HTC Desire we have 3 macro-families of ROMS:
1) AOSP ROMS - Like CM7 or Oxygen, they are based on the STANDARD Android OS, so there is NO SENSE interface. They are usually pretty stable and light, they are very small etc. but only you can say if they are cool
2) Gingerbread - Sense 1.9/2.1 ROMS - These ROMS are somewhat similar to the stock one, with a newer version of Android (2.3.x) and a version of Sense which is close to the stock one. Most of them feature scripts like A2SD+ of Data++ for storing applications on the SD card, so that you won't finish the space too soon as it happens with the stock firmware
3) Sense 3/3.5 or ICS4 - Here we go advanced, Android is usually 2.3.5 and you have a SENSE interface taken from the latest HTC devices, if you want my opinion these ROMs are the coolest, but since they are very different from what was planned for the Desire, you can get many different issues, some programs not working as they are intended to and so on. For sure the overall experience is slower, since the CPU and RAM are downsized for such an interface. ICS ROMS are based on the new Android 4 OS, there's no SENSE interface and they are mostly alpha or beta releases, so if you want something stable you better leave them alone
Here's the link to the desire index thread where you can find all the ROMS for your Desire:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Hope I've been useful

If you enjoy cm7, I have an idea for you to get much more space for apps. First of all download GParted and make two partitions first will be about 30GB fat32 primary partition and second will be 2 GB ext4 (primary ofc). Then go to this thread and flash INT2SD script. After that almost all space from your ext4 partition will be free for apps (ext4 partition is recommended to be 1-2 GB).

So much info thx

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So much info thx
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No problem
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[Q] Best Sense ROM

I haven't seen this topic in a while, so I figured it would be worth asking.
I've had my Incredible for about 2 years now, and I have the opportunity to upgrade it. Only thing that is stopping me is the cost of getting a new phone that basically does the same thing (with the exception of a front facing camera).
So instead of spending the money, I'd like to try out some ROMs to give the old device some new life. I'm currently on the stock OTA and I like Sense, so wondering what other Sense ROMS are out there that is good enough for daily driving (i.e. Stable and great battery life).
Thanks in advance!

Depends on what version of Sense you like. Based on your wants I'd recommend:
Sense 1.0 - Stock+ / EVO Classic
Sense 3.0 - Nils Business Gingersense / Anthem (I really don't like "tooting my own horn," but Anthem does have good battery life)
Sense 3.5 - Nils Business Gingersense 3.5
Sense 2.1 - McTwist
These are just my suggestions, but you should try all the ROMs you can to find the one that fits you best.

+1 for anthem
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Thank you! I will give that a shot!

im partial to nils gingersense 2.1/3 mix myself. just have to do a little maintenance such as update the busybox and superuser

mcsense or stock+ they are both modded versions of stock, but if you want a little more than stock go for mikrunny and/or mikg which are by team mikmik

hi guys, using the theme, what is the ICS rom more stable and functional for the Droid Incredible?
And hangs Sense is the best with 3.0 or 3.5, but I've seen some that have bugs, which is the most stable?

Before trying out the roms, do you guys know if having the ext4all mod with the moved dalvik cache will screw up the roms?
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switch81 said:
Before trying out the roms, do you guys know if having the ext4all mod with the moved dalvik cache will screw up the roms?
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There is a 90% probability it will.
Do you have the mod currently installed? As when you wipe and install the ROM it will undo the mod. Unless you mean flash the ext4all mod with dalvik moved after. In that case I'm pretty sure there will be issues. Not guaranteed but the thing I don't like about the dalvik moved mod is that now the dalvik will only have 150MB to store it's cache instead of be on the 750MB /data storage. This is ok until you get a decent number of apps on (and if you are flashing larger ROMs (sense 3 and up). Unpredictable results can occur. And if you ask why it's an option it's because it is and it's an attempt to reclaim space lost by not mounting the /data/data from the no data limit mod.
Hope this helps.

I have no ext4all, I've only released HBOOT and root the phone, I have version 4.08.605.2.
So what rom do you recommend?