[Q] Front facing camera for incredible - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i was wondering if there was any way of manually adding a front facing camera to the droid incredible. i saw a post on some people doing it with their samsung vibrants. I would do it but im not the best with manipulating hardware. i think this would be a very good project as well. i just want to know if anyone has tried it or put instructions on how to or something of that nature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854

Sounds extremely difficult. Even if you could do it with hardware, I'm not sure how well Sense will work with the extra camera.
There is also a newer droid incredible coming out within a couple of months with a front facing camera.

It may work using the EVO camera assembly. We'd have to have someone test it out for us though, no way to be sure unless someone tries it.
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i think it is possible, the evo has a ffc and sense. All we probebly need to do software wise is port some files from the evo.

Pretty cool idea. You would run into problems after the hardware hacking though, as you would have to run custom software as well in order to use the FFC.
BTW, the Thunderbolt will be coming to Verizon with a front facing camera soon.

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[Q] Give up Droid Incredible for an Evo?

Hi Guys,
I don't know if this question has been asked here before or not, and please spare me on the flaming if it has, but what are your honest opinions about trading in a Droid Incredible for an Evo?
Personally, I love my Incredible, and don't think there is anything wrong with it. I just wish it had some things that the Evo did.
Factors that matter to me and I am considering the Evo for:
1. Largest screen
2. Front facing Camera
3. HDMI port
Factors that scare me, or keep me from an Evo:
1. I have heard the size is really uncomfortably big, is this true?
2. I heard the battery life is horrible on the Evo! Personally I think the battery life on the Incredible is nothing special either, but I heard it's really bad on the Evo. I almost never use 3/4G or data, and just use WiFi very little, so this might not be a big deal for me.
I am sorry for writing this post without actually having an Evo in my hand, but it's sold out in my local stores. I intend to just ask for a trade on Craig's List or buy it from Ebay, if I get positive responses...
Also, 4G is negligible for me, since I will be using it on the Verizon network. Thanks for all your help, guys! I really appreciate your help!!
Dont really see any use for a larger screen, HDMI port or front facing camera.
I would get the samsung galaxy S for verizon when it comes out, its screen is in the middle of size betwen the dInc and evo. I dont believe it has HDMI out or front facing camera. Also EVO is on sprint and i know sprint by my sucks the fat one. I would rather stay on VZW.
I've held the evo. Its fat. I mean its cool, the front facing camera is awesome, and the HDMI out is awesome. But its fat. I mean.... obese...
Hmm, it's funny, but not completely unexpected the responses I am getting for the same post in the Evo forum versus the DInc.
So for your guys it really comes down to the size, huh? I thought about the Galaxy S, but other than the screen quality on that thing, I am not too attracted to it. Something about a Samsung product, just never sounded right to me (even though our DInc screens might be Samsung, huh )? Plus, I love Sense, I don't think there is a better implementation of Android, so far, in terms of the UI, than Sense.
Front facing camera is really the biggest force pulling towards the Evo. The screen is also a huge component, cause, it's the biggest in so far (other than Dell Streak, which I don't care for).
Since we're here, why not make the inevitable comparison and ask abou the Droid X... what do you guys think ?
Thanks for all your posts!
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Also, 4G is negligible for me, since I will be using it on the Verizon network. Thanks for all your help, guys! I really appreciate your help!!
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Huh? did I miss something?
ummm... how will you use it on the verizon network? the evo is locked to sprint even though its a cdma phone... and pls dont talk abot flashing the IMEIs. Its dangerous (not sure if its illegal or whatever) but certainly can brick your phone. A 4.3" screen brick with HDMI, and a front camera will still be a brick. If u want a bigger screen - i would recommend the droid x, even though it does not feel as sweet as the htc phones. Cant help with the front facing camera - seems none of the VZ phones have that.
Verizon's getting the EVO. Yippi
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Nope, no way. Don't want a phone that big (same goes for the Droid X), and I sure as hell don't want Sprint.
(You asked for an honest opinion )
why would anyone want to pay 10 dollars extra a month for a 4g that is pretty spotty at the moment and not available everywhere?
The LCD screen of the EVO is no match for the AMOLED display of the incredible.
Other than that.. if you are OK with switching to sprint network over VZW.. then go for it.
I think he means he'll be using VZW towers, since Sprint phones use VZW service if they're out of range of their own towers.
I think...
Or I could be wrong. I usually am.
Either way, in response to your original post, here's my issue. I took a look at the Droid X and left the store very happy with my Incredible, for the same reason I wouldn't buy an Evo. Simply put, you can't use the phone in one hand. Unless you have gigantic thumbs, there is no way you can manipulate the entire screen with your thumb, while holding the phone in the same hand. It's not a question of the phone feeling too bulky. It will still fit in your pocket just fine. It's not an iPad (with wings) after all. It really comes down to whether or not you use your phone one handed or not. If you always hold it, and manipulate the screen with the index finger of your other hand, great. Get the Evo. If not, you'll hate it.
ProFragger said:
I almost never use 3/4G or data, and just use WiFi very little, so this might not be a big deal for me.
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No flame here, but i'm curious as to what exactly youre using the phone for besides calls.
On a different note, considering the large screen and front facing camera are the two deciding factors for you, i would say stick with the incredible. I promise you the EVO isnt gonna be the last phone with these features. im sure the next phone to have these 2 features will utilize them much better than the EVO does.
I went the opposite way. I had an evo and returned it for an incredible.
The phones are more similar than different. Battery life was pretty much the same. No major differences in performance, though the inc seems a tiny bit more responsive.
I didnt see any use for hdmi out on the evo - I already have an htpc connected to the tv for viewing anything online. I've had front facing cameras on every laptop I've owned on the last 5 years and never really used it so not a real advantage for me.
Size wise the inc is more comfortable, but the evo is not too big.
I'm in a 4g city, but at home and work 4g performance was no better than 3g.
Rate plans for me were very close in costs, though Sprint was more flexible.
I returned the evo due to WiFi range issues and general concerns that I'd bought a multimedia device that happened to be a smartphone when what I really wanted was a smartphone that could occasionally play multimedia.
Add in Versions option for 1 year contracts, and the inc was a better fit for me.

Panoramic pictures?

Anyone know of an app or if there's a way to take actual panoramic pictures with the EVO 4G? My friend thinks he's tough **** with his iPhone 4 and when he asked if I can take pictures like that I was forced to reply "I'm not sure..." :/
lol....well, any iPhoner is going to try to hang their hat on the one or two silly thing that their phone can do and ours can't. While I agree it would be cool if someone developed and app that can do it, there is a list of things our phone can do that the iPhone 4 cannot, so I wouldn't stress it.
root it, start flashing new ROMs and overclocking, shoot incredible 720p video, and sit your phone up on the kickstand and watch them, or run them through the HDMI port to a HD TV. Then tell him to go shove his iPhone and tell him he needs to keep his personal preferences to hisself. As long as you are more happy with the EVO than an iPhone I don't think it's his business.
Have you tried PhotoStitch?
spy_owl2 said:
Have you tried PhotoStitch?
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I have, but it's not the same
I realize my phone is better in every other way, but I just want to be able to take those kinds of shots.
Is it all software in the iPhone that allows him to do that? Or does that phone actually have a wide angle lens? Excuse me if that's a dumb question
i would like to know too...my boss just got the epic 4g and it does the same thing and a couple other tricks with the camera too...gotta be a way to port that over from epic to evo
Maybe can you try my app Andropan
let's me know how can I make it better
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Maybe can you try my app Andropan
let's me know how can I make it better
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If I can remember I'll check when my phone gets done juicing. But I have been looking for a decent panoramic shooter too - photostitch doesn't cut it. At all.
Ye I have been desperately looking for a good panoramic software for the EVO.
The PhotoStich app works....ok, but I want something like the Epic or Droid X as far as it helping me line the next shot up.
Andropan is pretty sweet but on my EVO at the moment, it seems to have a couple of issues with the lineup, in the end I get a picture that is not joined perfectly for many shots, this means I have items in the picture that are repeated again and again since they have not been over lapped.
As this software moves forwards though, I'm sure it could do the job nicely.
I wish andropan and photostitch would get together and have a kid or something
I'd gladly fork over 10 bucks for an app that can do what the Epic's Samsung software does, or even what the Droid X is capable of.
Love the new update Sprint just pushed out though, super smooth now
-Sheldon

For those who can't have a camera

I work at a place where camera phones are not allowed. Obviously this sucks as there are no decent non camera phones out there. Recently though they've allowed camera phones to be used as long as the camera is removed and the hole epoxied. So yeah, I've permanently altered my vibrant.
But the good news is that you can custom order a skin from phantomskins and ask them not to cut out the hole for the camera. Just thought this would be useful info for other people in my situation since you can at least remove the camera and make it look like it came that way from the factory.
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May I ask what your profession is?
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alot of companies in tech and auto industry do it to prevent leaks of new and coming things
I know RIM sells some Blackberry models without the camera (Sprint and Verizon carry them if you look through their sites).
I work at a government installation. Yeah, blackberry has some phones but for what I want my phone to do they pretty much suck. I've had a blackberry 8820 which was "okay" but I want more than that out of my phone. And the whole changing out my simcard into another phone when I'm off work just doesn't happen because I'm lazy I guess lol. The crappy part is that I'm one of the few people that couldn't care less about a camera on my phone. Of all the camera phones I've had over the years I've probably taken a grand total of about a dozen pictures collectively with them. I just want a fast phone that can access the internet in a similar experience that I'd have on a computer. It would be great if manufacturers sold both camera and non camera versions of all their phones. Blackberry is really the only one that does it and they only do it on their lower end phones anyway.
A funny thing is that you still can add an FFC mod and have a camera while nobody gonna know about it
glfpunk said:
I work at a government installation. Yeah, blackberry has some phones but for what I want my phone to do they pretty much suck. I've had a blackberry 8820 which was "okay" but I want more than that out of my phone. And the whole changing out my simcard into another phone when I'm off work just doesn't happen because I'm lazy I guess lol. The crappy part is that I'm one of the few people that couldn't care less about a camera on my phone. Of all the camera phones I've had over the years I've probably taken a grand total of about a dozen pictures collectively with them. I just want a fast phone that can access the internet in a similar experience that I'd have on a computer. It would be great if manufacturers sold both camera and non camera versions of all their phones. Blackberry is really the only one that does it and they only do it on their lower end phones anyway.
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To my knowledge, the Droid pro will have/has a variant that does not have a camera.

[Q] Where are all the trackpads?!

So, i know this really isnt quite the right place...but what ever...So i've been using the incredible for over a year now, and i've gotten really used to the trackpad; I love it. But i've noticed on most new phones, atleast the verizon ones, theres no trackpad!? What happened HTC?! so i was wondering, when flashing a rom with clockwork on a phone with no trackpad, how do you scroll? do you have to use the volume buttons? there are other issues with no trackpad...like the fatfinger selection, sometimes you go to click something, but its so close to another thing you click the other thing instead...does anyone else love the trackpad? this is kind of a big issue for me...i really love my dinc, but kinda want 4g and front facing camera (and has to be a htc phone; i like the home button where it is!!!) faster cpu would be nice too..but any way...i just wanted to vent and see if anyone else has put thought into this...i mean the dinc is a great phone, and with new roms coming out all the time(been running NilsP Business gingersense andro2.3.3 with sense 3.0) it can stay uptodate pretty well, but only on the software side...ok..i'm done...
You should have vented in the General Section. This doesn't contribute at all to any development.
If I've helped you, hit the thanks button!
Wrong section.
Don't hold me on this, but I think the HTC Desire Z/T-Mobile G2 was the last HTC phone with a trackpad..
edit: MyTouch series, also..
Hope a mod moves this to general.
I completely agree. I find the trackpad extremely useful at times. Without even thinking about it I go right to it.
The truth is the DInc is getting older. Although I have had it for two years and still f'n love it, its time will be up. There are many amazing and powerful phones coming out and its just gonna get better. Personally, I'm looking at the HTC Vigor or Samsung Droid Prime as my next device. They seem to me the only Verizon phones that could possibly live up to the Incredible legacy.
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cmckee.cna said:
So, i know this really isnt quite the right place...but what ever...So i've been using the incredible for over a year now, and i've gotten really used to the trackpad; I love it. But i've noticed on most new phones, atleast the verizon ones, theres no trackpad!? What happened HTC?! so i was wondering, when flashing a rom with clockwork on a phone with no trackpad, how do you scroll? do you have to use the volume buttons? there are other issues with no trackpad...like the fatfinger selection, sometimes you go to click something, but its so close to another thing you click the other thing instead...does anyone else love the trackpad? this is kind of a big issue for me...i really love my dinc, but kinda want 4g and front facing camera (and has to be a htc phone; i like the home button where it is!!!) faster cpu would be nice too..but any way...i just wanted to vent and see if anyone else has put thought into this...i mean the dinc is a great phone, and with new roms coming out all the time(been running NilsP Business gingersense andro2.3.3 with sense 3.0) it can stay uptodate pretty well, but only on the software side...ok..i'm done...
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Well I'm pretty sure as your are in the minority. As most people, that I know anyway, don't use the touchpad and find it a waste of space.
nfiniti9 said:
Well I'm pretty sure as your are in the minority. As most people, that I know anyway, don't use the touchpad and find it a waste of space.
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+1. Don't use it, need it, or want it.
Trackball, yes. (Droid Eris)
Optical trackpad? No. Awful.
Volume keys work fine in recovery. And you can't get a hair stuck in them which causes your homescreen to scroll like crazy.
godsmacked4653 said:
Trackball, yes. (Droid Eris)
Optical trackpad? No. Awful.
Volume keys work fine in recovery. And you can't get a hair stuck in them which causes your homescreen to scroll like crazy.
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Oh man don't get me started on track balls... Those things suck... Do you know how many of those things fall out?!!? I've had the Samsung omnia (windows based smart phone) It was my first optical trackpad, damn thing was great even could change it to a mouse which was pretty cool...then moved to a moto droid, no trackpad of any kind until you open the kb, horrible design in my opinion. And how are you supposed to "hover" over a video(like on Bing) so it plays? I can hover over it with my trackpad with out opening it.
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RamAir02 said:
Hope a mod moves this to general.
I completely agree. I find the trackpad extremely useful at times. Without even thinking about it I go right to it.
The truth is the DInc is getting older. Although I have had it for two years and still f'n love it, its time will be up. There are many amazing and powerful phones coming out and its just gonna get better. Personally, I'm looking at the HTC Vigor or Samsung Droid Prime as my next device. They seem to me the only Verizon phones that could possibly live up to the Incredible legacy.
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So... I just looked at the droid prime... Disappointed... They're taking of the physical buttons... I like my buttons below the screen.... Maybe the dinc will be my last phone.. never upgrade.... Ill just get a new 4g phone and pull out the cellular reciever and the front facing camera.. who needs a proximity sensor anyway?
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Camera Question

So a while back I was using the HTC One S. I got it for the camera. I prefer samsung, for the most part, and have gone from a vibrant to galaxy s 4g to galaxy s 2. The only reason I did not go to the galaxy s 3 originally was because I needed a better camera. I wound up having to sell my HTC One s for some cash, and now I have the change to get a phone again, I am stuck, once again, between the one s and the s3. Personally, I would like to wait for the note 2, but I don't have the time. I am stuck with a basic flip phone right now, and while i don't mind using a flip phone, I have to have something for tethering with my tablet while I am work. So that is the rock and a hard place. Any phone I buy is going to be a few hundred bucks anyways, so I would rather go another hundred or two more and get the one s or s3.
Personally, the One S was great with the Axiom ROM. The battery lasted forever, and it had great extra features.
However, the s3 is still my preferred choice because of the bigger screen, the 720p, svoice, voice actions, and many other things. Not to mention the extra compatibility with my note 10.1 tablet.
My only real issue here, admidst all my rambling, is the camera. I know the HTC One S has an f/2.0 aperture, and the s3 has a f/2..6 aperture which makes a difference (although some people report the aperture as f/2.4)...my concern is how people actually like the photos and video. Ive noticed some washed out looks compared to the one s. I know the f/2.6 will give better depth vs the f/2.0, but thats about the end of the benefits.
My main concern is quality of photos/videos, and quickness of the picture. I have two young boys and I want to be able to snap a photo that is clear and of good quality, at a moments notice without having to worry about missing it or getting a blurry shot.
Any comments or thoughts on this would be helpful.
Ohai search button
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809547
If the cam is your main concern, I think you will be happy either way. There may be a difference side by side but if you're not ccomparing the two like that you probably wouldn't care either way.
While some may have had issues with the camera I would say the vast majority have not.
There are a number of things that could cause pic problems here. Lots of people are running jb leaked firmware. Lots are using the cam from the note2. I seem to remember a few had problems fixed by updating the cam firmware...
But like I said, I doubt you'd be dissatisfied with the gs3. I dont know how theyd compare side by side but unless you're doing just that I dont think you'd notice or care.
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psykhotic said:
Ohai search button
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Ive seen plenty of camera shot examples, but pretty much all (most, but not all) are from still photos are "posed" shots. It takes good pictures, and I think my only issue is its a little washed out vs the One S. However, I can deal with that. My biggest question is lag from button press to picture taken.
So, how much lag is there in taking a picture? If I wanted to take a picture right when somewhat hit the water diving off a diving board, or of my cat jumping from fence pole to fence pole and wanted a shot right in the middle between two poles, etc....how easy would it be? With the One S I could get pretty much zero lag. if I hit the capture button its taken the picture right then, and I can click the capture button over and over and over in rapid succession (not burst mode) and take multiple pictures. I really want the GS3 over the One S for other reasons, but need the camera to be on the same level.
So how quick does it take a picture when the button is pressed?...and how quickly does it recover to take another picture?
I find it to be quite quick on all accounts. Hasn't caused me any issues as of yet. Also, there is a feature where you can just record video and then capture the pics you want from the video.
Have you seen the commercial with the hikers and the goat?
The only complaint I have about the camera is the lack of hardware buttons for it. But I can deal with that.
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I find it to be quite quick on all accounts. Hasn't caused me any issues as of yet. Also, there is a feature where you can just record video and then capture the pics you want from the video.
Have you seen the commercial with the hikers and the goat?
The only complaint I have about the camera is the lack of hardware buttons for it. But I can deal with that.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Its rather important to be quick on the camera trigger. Even with the zero lag of the One S I did miss some things. I have my two boys and they can be making a face or doing a little dance to their favorite tv show and I want to capture it, but the moment may just last a few seconds, and I need a quick trigger finger. So I dont want to have to focus and then 'click'. I want to hit and click at the same time.
Right now, however, I am stuck my an LG Mytouch Q and definitely not the best in the camera department. lol
Yeah I hear you on wanting to be able to get that quick shot. Its the msin reason I miss the csm button. But theres also a motion setting where you tap and hold on lock screen whil rotating to landscape takes you straight to the camera. I just added to my lockscreen shortcuts. Auto focus is pretty good too btw.
Dont forget you can always get the S3 and try it for 14 days. If it doesn't meet your needs return it and get the One S.
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Yeah I hear you on wanting to be able to get that quick shot. Its the msin reason I miss the csm button. But theres also a motion setting where you tap and hold on lock screen whil rotating to landscape takes you straight to the camera. I just added to my lockscreen shortcuts. Auto focus is pretty good too btw.
Dont forget you can always get the S3 and try it for 14 days. If it doesn't meet your needs return it and get the One S.
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Thats where my problem lies. I work for T-Mobile. Mind you everything I do here is personal and not affiliated with my tmobile employment, but I work for them, and I know just about everything there is to know about the phones, but because I have not had a chance to really test shutter lag on the phone, I dont know if it meets my needs. I am VERY picky. I don't work in a retail store or anything so I dont deal with the phones in my hand daily.
...and because I work for the company, I do not get a buyers remorse period on my purchases. Once I order it, give or take a couple of exceptions to the rule, its mine. So while I can tell you about every wifi share options, every motion and voice control, and so on, I dont know for sure if the camera lag will be a problem in practical use because I do not have the phone physically with me. ..and when I did have the phone physically with me...I never tested it cause I either had my one s or was not in the mindset of having to buy a phone lol. I will probably get a chance to check out a demo model tomorrow when I head in to work, but I was trying to get it ordered over the weekend, so it would start processing my order. Our order system is different and the sooner the better.
Galaxy S3
phoenixbennu said:
So a while back I was using the HTC One S. I got it for the camera. I prefer samsung, for the most part, and have gone from a vibrant to galaxy s 4g to galaxy s 2. The only reason I did not go to the galaxy s 3 originally was because I needed a better camera. I wound up having to sell my HTC One s for some cash, and now I have the change to get a phone again, I am stuck, once again, between the one s and the s3. Personally, I would like to wait for the note 2, but I don't have the time. I am stuck with a basic flip phone right now, and while i don't mind using a flip phone, I have to have something for tethering with my tablet while I am work. So that is the rock and a hard place. Any phone I buy is going to be a few hundred bucks anyways, so I would rather go another hundred or two more and get the one s or s3.
Personally, the One S was great with the Axiom ROM. The battery lasted forever, and it had great extra features.
However, the s3 is still my preferred choice because of the bigger screen, the 720p, svoice, voice actions, and many other things. Not to mention the extra compatibility with my note 10.1 tablet.
My only real issue here, admidst all my rambling, is the camera. I know the HTC One S has an f/2.0 aperture, and the s3 has a f/2..6 aperture which makes a difference (although some people report the aperture as f/2.4)...my concern is how people actually like the photos and video. Ive noticed some washed out looks compared to the one s. I know the f/2.6 will give better depth vs the f/2.0, but thats about the end of the benefits.
My main concern is quality of photos/videos, and quickness of the picture. I have two young boys and I want to be able to snap a photo that is clear and of good quality, at a moments notice without having to worry about missing it or getting a blurry shot.
Any comments or thoughts on this would be helpful.
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IMHO the Galaxy S3 takes the best pics I have ever taken with a phone. See for yourself. I am attaching two pics of a sunset/day-time at Vanderbilt Beach, Florida. Rarely have I been disappointed with the quality of the pics. At least for me, they almost always turn out perfect. I highly recommend the Galaxy S3. Even in low-light situations, you still get a great pic.
Well 1) it's a camera phone and 2) ymmv. There isn't more "lag" than a cheap point and shoot but this isn't a dslr, it's a phone. It's going to come down to to you and each unique situation.

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