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G2 gets 3000 on Quadrant?!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839687
How can we get a kernel to compare to this?! Holy hell!

thats in-freaking-sane that thing isn't made to run those speeds can't wait for the first my G2 caught fire stories because of this i mean come on 1.9 ghz and no real cooling basically means i'm cooking my processor

Brutus2TheMax said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839687
How can we get a kernel to compare to this?! Holy hell!
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I got 2800 on my EVO using CM6.1 RC1 with snap7.6 turbo kernel and thats running at 1.2 GHz. There is a new Snap kernel coming out too (Snap9). Quadrant should be close to or at 3000 with that new kernel.

1.9GHz is soooooooooo fast holy titties

how in the world do you overclock a cpu 225%?

clock speed means nothing, its just a number.
my x2 athlon at 3.2ghz wont compare to a current 2ghz, im happy for them they were able to clock it that high but benchmarks will show real world results
I couldnt be happier with my evo regardless of what others can do with their phones

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1.9GHz is soooooooooo fast holy titties
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I was informed at the store that the G2 is a next generation Snapdragon than what the EVO has and thus can be mad overclocked. However to achieve those speeds I promise they aren't running stock voltages. And yeah, they are close to cooking that baby.
Amazing that Amazon had the G2 for FREE with new service the other day.
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It is easy to FaKE the scores lol!!!! Anyways it just a number and really dont mean much. I yet to really see a video of these number being legitament!!!

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Holy BALLS. They OC'd that thing a whole 1.1Ghz... That's insane. I would NOT want to push that processor that hard though. That's reducing the life of the phone by a very significant amount, especially considering how these phones have such crap heat dissipation.

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how in the world do you overclock a cpu 225%?
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How, because the G2 is already underclocked down from 1.2GHz for battery saving reasons. Really only a 50% increase, which is still substantial as the EVO only overclocks 20%. You can't actually run it that high though, you can run it at around 1.45GHz, so its back at that 20%.
Also, my friend's HD2 hits 3500 in quadrant on the DesireHD rom. It hits 2000 underclocked at 500 MHz. He is running android off a class 6 card, but thats still some crazy scores. So our phones can hit that too if someone much smarter than me has some free time.

[Q] TMobile G2 speeds suck in good data area?

I got a G2 (HTC Vision) a few days ago, and it was already rooted. I have no clue about rom development, kernels, etc for the G2 and was wondering why it was running so slow. Also under set cpu, what speed should I clock it to?
It is running 2.3.3 with the kernel 2.6.32.28-cyanogenmod-g4f4ee2e [email protected] #1
the rom i believe is cm7-htc vision, build number GRI40

Well am not using CM7 not a big fan but the devs are awesome. Anyways on setcpu put max to 1.5 GHZ and Min to 1 GHZ. Am not really sure why your g2 is slow. Maybe you can reflash the rom or maybe you have to many wigets/Apps running.
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Having "too many apps" shouldn't affect your data speed nor should overclocking it do anything. Your data is WHAT it is, WHERE it is. For example, at home I get HSPDA (the H) and get a max of 1010 kb/s where as to the parking lot at my job, I can get an average of 1400kb/s. Which is a huge difference. Both are still fast (roughly 1mb/s to 1.4mb/s per second.. not to be confused with Mbits) It all depends on your location and the actual signal you get there. Just test it out a little around town or when you're out of town and you'll see. I suggest using speed test to get accurate results.

dietotherhythm said:
Having "too many apps" shouldn't affect your data speed nor should overclocking it do anything. Your data is WHAT it is, WHERE it is. For example, at home I get HSPDA (the H) and get a max of 1010 kb/s where as to the parking lot at my job, I can get an average of 1400kb/s. Which is a huge difference. Both are still fast (roughly 1mb/s to 1.4mb/s per second.. not to be confused with Mbits) It all depends on your location and the actual signal you get there. Just test it out a little around town or when you're out of town and you'll see. I suggest using speed test to get accurate results.
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I certainly know that overclocking have nothing to do with it. But up until now, my area always give me a good 2.3mbps at most. I have gotten below 1mbps on my g2 so i raised the minimum cpu setting and got higher speeds. Thanks though.

Have you tried amazinglarry's superwipeg2+ yet.... helped me out

lainvalenajr said:
Well am not using CM7 not a big fan but the devs are awesome. Anyways on setcpu put max to 1.5 GHZ and Min to 1 GHZ. Am not really sure why your g2 is slow. Maybe you can reflash the rom or maybe you have to many wigets/Apps running.
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wow, you really use your Desire Z at min. 1GHz and max. 1.5GHz?
is that safe?

LooieENG said:
wow, you really use your Desire Z at min. 1GHz and max. 1.5GHz?
is that safe?
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Safe but not very useful. Above 1 GHz the gains are negligible. I say setting the min at 1GHz is a little silly though. I can't see how he's getting good battery life with it constantly running that high.

Nah I don't really care about battery life my friend. Since I have 2 extra battery. Lol well that's just me
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abctilly said:
I certainly know that overclocking have nothing to do with it. But up until now, my area always give me a good 2.3mbps at most. I have gotten below 1mbps on my g2 so i raised the minimum cpu setting and got higher speeds. Thanks though.
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Sorry I was thinking about the speed of the phone... not data speed.
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I noticed the bad wi fi and data speeds on my phone too. Update, 7.0.2, for CM7 Just went up. It has improved my reception dramatically.
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(Q)I have a og evo and cant overclock it 1.2ghz.

I have a og evo I want to know why when I overclock to 1.2ghz it freezes my phone why does it do that ?
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Each Evo is different. Some of them can't handle that high overclock, or can't be undervolted very low. Each one is different, each has its limits.
I don't understand the big deal with overclocking. It burns your battery faster. I personally underclock, with little to no lag and is good enough for my casual gaming needs

Mine doesn't like a clock much at all. I can get about 1.1 before it starts locking up but even then it hangs a lot. I honestly don't see a difference from 1.0 to 1.2. Get a decent rom, good kernel and try out the v6 script an I almost guarantee you will like that better.

beaumontcali48 said:
I have a og evo I want to know why when I overclock to 1.2ghz it freezes my phone why does it do that ?
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Well for us to be able to help you, you would need to provide us with more details on how you are trying to accomplish this.

I use no frils cpu but have also tried setcpu and viperMOD I know that's the best way to overclock but is very confusing. Have any step by step instructions to of to 1.2 I know having higher voltages helps as well.
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Overclocking is overrated. If you need to overclock for every day usage, then something is wrong - at least in my opinion. Resource intensive gaming is different, but you shouldn't need to overclock for browsing, texting, casual games, etc.
Try out the V6 Supercharger script. I'm not currently using it, but have in the past and it seemed to make my phone more snappy. A lot of people swear by it and it's a great script, definitely worth a shot. There are other things you can do to speed up your phone without overclocking. I'd try other options first since overclocking will chew through your battery. Increase the dalvik vm heap size, there are plenty of free apps on the market to help with this task. Uninstall apps you don't use, I'll bet that you never use some of the apps on your phone. Back them up with Titanium Backup and you can restore them if you ever need them again.
In case you didn't already know, the Evo can't overclock past 1.2, I'm not 100% sure why - it has something to do with the processor.
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I never oc over 1075 and only when plugged in if i play a game I need to oc.for I just activate my charging profile and plug up and play 1.2 ghz is a good chance of doing serious.damage as these older scorpion processors get very very hot at that clock speed so they lock up to try and protect themselves from heat damage or they shut down the phone 1075 is as high as you should need to go for any games the evo can handle on the subpar gpu
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beaumontcali48 said:
...also tried setcpu and viperMOD I know that's the best way to overclock.
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I'm pretty sure viperMOD is more for undervolting than overclocking, which are not suppose to be combined together. I am running vipermod with max voltages - 50. Other nite was playing snes9x and was getting some lag with a game so I bumped max CPU up to 1.2. Phone went into a bootloop and had to superwipe and reflash everything. Don't know if its b/c vipermod + 1.2 CPU or just bumping up CPU. Didn't try it again.
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Get a shift. Mine runs fine at 1.9. But usually run it art 254-1200 on demand.

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I'm pretty sure viperMOD is more for undervolting than overclocking, which are not suppose to be combined together. I am running vipermod with max voltages - 50. Other nite was playing snes9x and was getting some lag with a game so I bumped max CPU up to 1.2. Phone went into a bootloop and had to superwipe and reflash everything. Don't know if its b/c vipermod + 1.2 CPU or just bumping up CPU. Didn't try it again.
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You can overclock and undervolt together just fine. You just need to ensure that every frequency has a high enough voltage to run the processor at that step. My Evo is overclocked and undervolted just fine, although IIRC I can only push it up to 1.1 GHz . My tablet is 1ghz to 1.6ghz and is undervolted as well, though.

merge rls 2.0, iron monkey, Droid overclock because of the profiles options. I set up four profiles including one for temp. sometimes i'm underclocking and sometimes overclocking but only up to 1.19 to prevent freeze and boot loops. Only downside is right at open Droid overclock needs su permission but that is my choice since profile changes at open.
Very snappy afterwards.
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When I had the 4G, I was never able to go above 1118, or somewhere around that. It would have freezing issues.
On my evo shift, I was able to do 1.7 gHz (compared to stock 800 mhz) ok. 1.6 pretty reliabily, and I could run 1.5 all day long. Some guys could do 1.9. It just depends on the phone.

Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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tommy0823 said:
Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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Shoot the brutha a link
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tommy0823 said:
Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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What? Overclocking and undervolting are two completely different things, and they aren't mutually exclusive. Unless you can provide a good reason as to why it's counter productive to do both, I don't buy that at all. Just checked my phone, my overclock requires an extra 25 mV for all three steps I've overclocked. 25mV isnt much, and it certainly isn't going to kill my battery that much faster.
Besides, the only time the CPU is going to be entering these high power modes is when it needs to do work, and it's better to do work as fast as possible to go back to sleep. Would you rather wake up, do a mundane task for 5 minutes, then go back to sleep or wake up, do a task at 2x the speed while only consuming 30-50% more energy, then going back to sleep after only 2.5 minutes?
HUGI is real.
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Yea shot me the link too bro.
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First let me say I don't use viper mod or any voltage controlling mod.
On sense 3.0 roms such as mikg I over clock to 1152 and set the minimum to 384 and its smooth as butter. No problem and battery lasts all day.
On aosp however such as decks (I'm on it now) I underclock to 499 and leave the min at 254. Smooth as always and battery lasts forever.
Anything past 1152 is going to cause problems (at least in my experience) also the rom/kernel can effect how much you can overclock.
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Gary13579 said:
What? Overclocking and undervolting are two completely different things, and they aren't mutually exclusive. Unless you can provide a good reason as to why it's counter productive to do both, I don't buy that at all. Just checked my phone, my overclock requires an extra 25 mV for all three steps I've overclocked. 25mV isnt much, and it certainly isn't going to kill my battery that much faster.
Besides, the only time the CPU is going to be entering these high power modes is when it needs to do work, and it's better to do work as fast as possible to go back to sleep. Would you rather wake up, do a mundane task for 5 minutes, then go back to sleep or wake up, do a task at 2x the speed while only consuming 30-50% more energy, then going back to sleep after only 2.5 minutes?
HUGI is real.
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Its counter productive because it is giving less to something that needs more. (Don't take this post as me trying to be a ****. Just voicing how someone explained it to me a while ago)
Think of this as cars.
Lets say you have a nice fancy v8 mustang. Stock, everything is well, balanced.
If you start adding parts and get it pushing out 1000 horsepower (overclock) your most likely gonna need more feul (voltage) or at least stock amount flowing into the engine just to keep it running.
Now lets say you got that same 1000 horsepower gas destroying mustang and you start to lower the amount of gas flowing into the engine (undervolt (done in vipermod)) cylinders (CPU) wont get enough gas, it wont work, and your stuck going no where.
So if that made sense (did to me) then you can see why they are counter productive. Unless your using vipermod to overvolt (which idk if you can since I don't use it) then you can disregard this whole post
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Your car analogy is completely irrelevant. You can look up the exact voltages that the CPU runs on at every frequency, *even when overclocking*. Overclocking an Evo 1ghz to 1.2ghz takes maybe a 5% bump in voltage, and that 5% extra power is only going to be used *when the CPU is running at max speed* (which is only when there is a lot of work to do), and even then, it's *still better to let the CPU run at max speed with a tiny bit more power consumption than to cap the CPU at a slower speed and make it work for even longer*. Intel calls it HUGI, Hurry Up and Get Idle.
I know what I'm talking about, and I wish people would stop trying to argue with me based off of second hand speculation. I do this for a living, after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with overclocking and undervolting, and it's the best way to get the most battery life *and* performance out of your phone, period.
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Gary13579 said:
Your car analogy is completely irrelevant. You can look up the exact voltages that the CPU runs on at every frequency, *even when overclocking*. Overclocking an Evo 1ghz to 1.2ghz takes maybe a 5% bump in voltage, and that 5% extra power is only going to be used *when the CPU is running at max speed* (which is only when there is a lot of work to do), and even then, it's *still better to let the CPU run at max speed with a tiny bit more power consumption than to cap the CPU at a slower speed and make it work for even longer*. Intel calls it HUGI, Hurry Up and Get Idle.
I know what I'm talking about, and I wish people would stop trying to argue with me based off of second hand speculation. I do this for a living, after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with overclocking and undervolting, and it's the best way to get the most battery life *and* performance out of your phone, period.
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Hmm, *interesting*. I believe the best answer to the OP was covered rather well earlier. It's all about your rom/kernel/hardware combination. With all the variables to consider as relevant, your best bet is to experiment and find what works for your device. Don't check set on boot untill you are confident the set-up is stable. Higher is not always better with overclocking. My device runs blazingly well underclocked @768max. Gets insanely great battery @499max. However my quadrants are better @ 1036 than at 1190.
Great thing about android is you can experiment and learn through trial and error.
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[Q] Extremely low quadrant score. What do i do?

Okay, so the other day, i ran quadrant on my gs2 against my brohters gs4g and i got 3259 and my brother got 938. I tried again today, and i got 1208 and the gs4g got 1190. i ran the test seversl times and the same result, nothing more than 1300. I didn't change anything from the first time i ran the test, so is my phone messed up? I know most people don't really like quadrant, but i use it because it kind of gives me peace of mind knowing my phone is better thssn everyone else's

Don't worry about it. It really doesnt matter.
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Reboot your phone then wait for about 30 seconds while everything settles (dont run any other apps) then run quadrant. What score did you get this time?

I tried the reboot thing after the first low score and pretty much the same score
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kkg720 said:
I tried the reboot thing after the first low score and pretty much the same score
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I would just throw it out the window bro.......thats too low to be in hand.

KillaHurtz said:
I would just throw it out the window bro.......thats too low to be in hand.
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Hilarious man
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kkg720 said:
Okay, so the other day, i ran quadrant on my gs2 against my brohters gs4g and i got 3259 and my brother got 938. I tried again today, and i got 1208 and the gs4g got 1190. i ran the test seversl times and the same result, nothing more than 1300. I didn't change anything from the first time i ran the test, so is my phone messed up? I know most people don't really like quadrant, but i use it because it kind of gives me peace of mind knowing my phone is better thssn everyone else's
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Quadrant doesnt go well with Dual Core Snapdragon Processors. I've been getting 2000 each time a ran it. Try ANTUTU Benchmark and see what you get.
Quandrant doesnt define a phone of how great your phone is.

Or CF bench works well!
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Quadrant is a horribly outdated benchmark, don't rely on it ever.
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iExpliziT said:
Quadrant doesnt go well with Dual Core Snapdragon Processors. I've been getting 2000 each time a ran it. Try ANTUTU Benchmark and see what you get.
Quandrant doesnt define a phone of how great your phone is.
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I'll take what AnTuTu Benchmark gave me.. Listed me at 6327... Just over the Nexus ;-)
Main thing that brought me down as my stupid SD card because I have some generic piece of junk --- EDIT: Just ran it against the internal SD, and I got 6577. Even above the Galaxy Note ;-)

I know that quadrant is not optimized for dual core, but that doesnt explain why i was getting 3000+ and it just dropped to less than 1000
Btw antutu was 6492 idk if thats good or bad so...
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Freeze Google maps with titanium back up and see what u get ...
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Freeze Google maps with titanium back up and see what u get ...
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Maps is really that big of a culprit?
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These threads get so old. Does everything work on your phone? Is it smooth and responsive? Then who cares what some outdated benchmark says. You are the benchmark.

I changed the rom on my friend's mytouch 4g and he scored 3246 on miui oc to 1.6 ghz lagfree, It beat my gs2 running zombie oc to 1.72 ghz lagfree 2976 i dont think quadrant is an accurate benchmark at all, so markus is right, YOU are the benchmark.

AnTuTu scores stop after installing Note2Core EX

As the title says, I'm getting about 400 points less? Not sure what to make of it. I just flashed it in TWRP. Should I be concerned?
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Closed all my recent apps, and cleated my RAM. Got 18571. That's still only about 300 higher than stock. From what I'm seeing in AnTuTu's rankings, I should still be getting 500-700 points higher... Any tips? I'm new to the whole overclocking thing. At any rate, the new ROM makes Triangle Away work again.
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Keep in mind benchmarks only tell half the story. If you want reliable results, reboot your phone, put your phone in airplane mode and then run some benchmarks.
I run Vellamo, Smart bench, Quadrant, and Antutu. Results will always vary. Also, if your GPU is Oc'd you will get better results. Depends on your kernel.
I'm around 18600 on Antutu, not overclocked, running JediX8 ROM with baked in kernel. Consistent results, and amazing battery. Who cares about a couple hundred points.
One more thing to point out. If you want the highest possible scores, run something that isn't TouchWiz based. Motion, Svoice, Spen and all the other Sammy stuff slows the device down.
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