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Which is the best audio player for WM - WITH BEST AUDIO QUALITY!!!!

Hi
Im looking for a audio player which has the best audio quality- please suggest something!!
I basically need an audio player which plays mp3 has a lot of functions(EQ, bass boost etc.) and has the best audio quality!!!
I need it because I have a "kicka**" sound system from "Magnat" at home and I want to reach its full potential, of more than 2000 wats from my Touch HD & my phone is being used as a media center in a lot of parties, cuz I have the biggest music libary on my phone!!!!!!

the inbuilt music player in tf3d is good. it has an equaliser but no volume control if you choose to use it, but then you could control the volume which your music system.

the inbuilt music player is ****.
try pocketplayer or mortplayer. these are really professional players.
but dont expect huge differences in sound output, they will be the same. it depends on what you set in the equalizers..

have you tried lcg jukebox .... !!! try it

There is Phantasm Music Player (40iPlay), but it is hard to buy it because of the paranoid policy of its author.

Using 3rd party players you cannot use remote controls on headsets (for example I'm using Nokia BH-503 with my HD). Am I right?

External controls seems fine... so far
m1c4d0 said:
Using 3rd party players you cannot use remote controls on headsets (for example I'm using Nokia BH-503 with my HD). Am I right?
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Not true really, as I use Nitrogen (audio/music player) and it works fine with both my SE MBW-150 and HBH220 Bluetooth adapter. Both needing a little messing with, but allows me to choose next track, pause and play.
I'd would prefer not to use an additional music player, because it always needs messing around with to get fully working with all these random toys, but the inbuilt music player, including WM6.5 media player all suck and no easy to just select a folder and play all at random, which is all I want ever really.
(any suggestions would be nice to know)

m1c4d0 said:
Using 3rd party players you cannot use remote controls on headsets (for example I'm using Nokia BH-503 with my HD). Am I right?
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PocketPlayer works with bluetooth control (A2DP) since version 3.71.
Mortplayer does not support it thanks to new Manila.
Blame HTC, they introduced some fu**ing "tweak" so that only the manila Player has access to the bluetooth control. Pocketplayer can do it because they reverse engineered the problem.

Just loosing your time
Sorry but you are just loosing your time...
I have spent some time trying to find a solution and I am back to my Ipod to drive my Home sound system (Magnat by the way ).
Your problem has nothing to do with the Software you will use but is has to do with the hardware limitations of these little WM device.
The best sound system will always require the best source as poor dynamic range, frequency response or noise level are hidden by poor sound systems but amplified by top quality ones.
Not convinced?
Just have a look, what you will read will confirm what you hear !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_hd-review-300p6.php
Maybe one day we will have a real all-in-one device. But not today !

m1c4d0 said:
Using 3rd party players you cannot use remote controls on headsets (for example I'm using Nokia BH-503 with my HD). Am I right?
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I also have bh-503 -- it worked with my old ipaq 1940 with all players - so it has to be manila bug, but I havent noticed it!!!
click_fr said:
Sorry but you are just loosing your time...
I have spent some time trying to find a solution and I am back to my Ipod to drive my Home sound system (Magnat by the way ).
Your problem has nothing to do with the Software you will use but is has to do with the hardware limitations of these little WM device.
The best sound system will always require the best source as poor dynamic range, frequency response or noise level are hidden by poor sound systems but amplified by top quality ones.
Not convinced?
Just have a look, what you will read will confirm what you hear !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_hd-review-300p6.php
Maybe one day we will have a real all-in-one device. But not today !
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Before the HD I had Nokia 5610, with the "dedicated sound chip" , I can hear a big differnece beetween the two-- HD - louder & more bass
so the HD is already an improvement!!!
But still some bad things can be covered with good software and sound system!!!!
BTW-- Magnat - ROCKS!!!! 800W subwoofer & some more speakers with more than 2000 wats of power can bring your whole house down!!!!!

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Hi, the HD doesnt have great sound quality full stop i am afraid, I would say dont worry too much about which player, find one that you find comfortable to use, some are too complex non finger friendly menus for instance. All players have decent Eq's and so you should be able to get the best out of the HD with any player.
hope this helps.

FazZfilmz said:
I'd would prefer not to use an additional music player, because it always needs messing around with to get fully working with all these random toys, but the inbuilt music player, including WM6.5 media player all suck and no easy to just select a folder and play all at random, which is all I want ever really.
(any suggestions would be nice to know)
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You can do this with Core Player if you disable scan card at start up option and select anything from your storage card rather than from a library. Sound quality better than my Ipod IMO. It has a preamp option.

str0nz0 said:
the inbuilt music player is ****.
try pocketplayer or mortplayer. these are really professional players.
but dont expect huge differences in sound output, they will be the same. it depends on what you set in the equalizers..
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mortplayer is ****tttt and very complicated to use and too slow with hd and has issues with uninstalling and pocket player is slow on HD as well stick to media player and htc touch flo included player they do the job and hell yaaaa there will be no difference in the sound output so why a third party and ram issues stick to original with this and if you are looking for a light player easy to use try s2p iplayer it looks good and it works great but i did uninstall it and i do use htc included player better than anything.

Pure and simple
@custardo01 - Thanks! I actually use Core player already, but mainly for video playback only, as I the GUi so unfriendly... it's an ugly package, but I guess it works well. However Nitrogen feels most friendly to me right now and easy to use when cycling on the London roads.
In regards to the sound quality, I actually think the quality of the HTC Touch HD is pretty dam good. I've tried various portable toys from dedicated portable audio players, mobile phone and those nasty Apple products, but so far it's not bad at all.
For sure it not ground breaking and would prefer the audio quality that the Sony Ericsson P and X series have, but with good pairing via earphones with low ohm requirements, it's close to lowless quality.
Of course ALL of this is pointless if you simply are only listening to Radio signals, standard Mp3 or basic AAC files. I do a huge amount of audio work, both musically, soundtrack and folly so mainly use wav and any other random stuff is always 320kbps Mp3's ...until I can get Mp3HD to work etc
AAC is pretty good when pushed to the maximum, but I'm to lazy to change back to AAC files after years or being on Mp3's, OGG and mainly multi-channel DTS & DD via WAV.
Any EQ system on almost ANY software is always a BAD thing!
Hardware EQ'ing is another thing altogether and even then is still a bad thing (usually). If it sounds bad, it always will do and using an EQ to improve it, I guess I'm just that type of person that disagree's with EQ'ing because you loose what it really was meant to be and not what it is anymore.
IMO: Audio & Visual should be played pure, flat and as is it was created.

Better music player... anyone?
odm3xda said:
mortplayer is sh... ...htc included player better than anything.
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All probably very true, but when your using WM6.5 and not TF3D anymore, you need a good player once again, because of course the WMP is NOT an option.
I'd recommended Nitrogen any day, but still looking for somethin better, nicer and possibly simplier. I liked the TF3D audio player when I was using the basic ROM and Dutty's amazing ROM's but since I've moved over to WM6.5 not much choice... right?
Is their a way to access the TF3D via WM6.5 without actually having the TF3D today page open too?

FazZfilmz said:
@custardo01 - Thanks! I actually use Core player already, but mainly for video playback only, as I the GUi so unfriendly... it's an ugly package, but I guess it works well. However Nitrogen feels most friendly to me right now and easy to use when cycling on the London roads.
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It is not ugly if you use a skin to cover it up. Search for the DiamondVGA Core Player skin. I have it here if you need it. Forget bluetooth you miss out on so much quality IMO. You will see me on a Black Ridgeback in the London streets with the stock wired headphones in - bald bloke with glasses

I want to ride my bicycle... with my HTC Touch HD blasting TooNz!
custardo01 said:
It is not ugly if you use a skin to cover it up. Search for the DiamondVGA Core Player skin. I have it here if you need it. Forget bluetooth you miss out on so much quality IMO. You will see me on a Black Ridgeback in the London streets with the stock wired headphones in - bald bloke with glasses
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LMAO ...I'm on Ridgeback MX4 (modded) travelling from East London to where ever I need be for post-production editing work etc.
Yeah, I gave up on SE Bluetooth adapter when I got my HTC Touch HD as the quality just wasn't right at all and as you say, wired in is still best. I'm currently using Denon AHC551's earphones until they get worn out and need replacing (soon).
I only really use the adapter for random things and I think the Mrs gets more use out of it now when she's out jogging. She's using my old SE P1 and Bluetooth ADP2 seems to sound so much better through them... strange!?
Would the DiamondVGA skin you are suggesting work OK on a HTC Touch HD?

I use S2P Best audio player IMHO. Combined with HTC Audio Booster or SRS WOW Audio of course.

I have got TF3D player, WMP, coreplayer, S2P, pocket player and nitrogen.
To be honest:
Coreplayer is the worst.
Nitrogen is the best, closest to the ordinary MP3 player, but it is not so user friendly as the playlist is not so good.
Pocket player has a lot of eq. setting, but it does not help much.
One important thing is to reduce the stutter and it can be cured by 1.57 HKG ROM or the patch from Diamond. But Diamond patch may drain your battery in a horrible rate, you should better upgrade your ROM.

FazZfilmz said:
Would the DiamondVGA skin you are suggesting work OK on a HTC Touch HD?
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Yes it does

Opinion please to buy Desire or not

Hi friends i am thinking the next week to buy this phone because i am totally disappointed from my Toshiba tg01.
I don't know if is the correct phone for me and i like to say me your opinion as owners.
I like to surf with phone, listen some music, see a video and first of all to have good radio signal, communication, to use bluetooth headset etc.
You think desire is ok ? you are satisfied with this phone or you think that you should have buying another phone.
Thanks

desire is a nice phone.,i'm satisfied with that phone

Thx for the answer.

Really happy with my Desire, if you like browsing and music there are some really nice apps that are much better than the stock ones.
I like Dolphin HD for internet http://www.appbrain.com/app/mobi.mgeek.TunnyBrowser
For music i use http://www.appbrain.com/app/org.abrantix.rockon.rockonnggl

Thx for the reply

It's a really good phone but for video it is not the best (yet). You can play movies but you will most likely have to convert it. What kind of video do you want to watch?

Thx for the reply. I saw this at specs don't support avi etc only mp4 wmv and video for mobile. It's little bit problem this but maybe someother player can play avi etc or not ?

Really pleased with mine - great phone - just wish that Word/Excel apps were free !!

Thx for the answer

vagsvag said:
Thx for the reply. I saw this at specs don't support avi etc only mp4 wmv and video for mobile. It's little bit problem this but maybe someother player can play avi etc or not ?
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You can use RockPlayerBase, great player that handles avi, MKV, DiVX, Xvid, and WMV. Its in private beta, I used it and it works great.
mobiputing.com/2010/06/rockplayerbase-the-best-media-player-for-android-divx-xvid-wmv-support
If I am choosing android phone, I would decide between Desire and Samsung Galaxy S.

Thx for the reply i'll try it when i am ready. Samsung is good too but here in Greece the phone providers don't have it yet.

I like to surf with phone, listen some music, see a video and first of all to have good radio signal, communication, to use bluetooth headset etc.
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great for surfing, listening to music with supplied headphones no problems, speaker is not too hot.
Radio signal is fine in Holland although i don't use it, as a phone it works also, i have not used blue tooth headset but if you check in accessories threads you will see others that have.

Thx friend for the answer

[Q] nice music player which support equalizer on bluetooth headphone

hey guys, plz suggest me some nice music player which can use equalizer on bluetooth headphone

DevilMayLaughXD said:
hey guys, plz suggest me some nice music player which can use equalizer on bluetooth headphone
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powerAMP...costs few bucks but totally worth it

Agree. PowerAMP is pure awesomeness!

Best Desire ROM for playing music (FLAC especially)

Hi, I'm looking for a ROM that can play music very well and will also play FLAC files without interruptions or buzzing or any other distortion. I have been using MIUI XJ but I understand development has stopped and recently it seems it doesn't do the job anymore (weird buzzing during playback every now and then). Maybe its not the ROM, i don't know. Tried with 2 sets of headphones and it's the same.
At the moment I am about to install MildWild CM5.
Awaiting suggestions!
Thanks.

Maybe try this one: http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=2365
Also which music player are you using?

I recommend RunnyRom...trust me it's the best i've seen, it has beats audio and other stuff,dont really know if there is much of a difference but it sounds better than my pc...

Beats audio on Desire is just equalizer setting.

k3lcior said:
Beats audio on Desire is just equalizer setting.
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Well yeah...like i said idk if it is a difference but...it still makes it the best rom for music

The fact that OP prefer FLAC files over mp3, I would assume he listens to his music without any or with little use for equalization.

Thank you all for replying.
Maybe try this one: http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=2365
Also which music player are you using?
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Well, I will take a look and maybe give it a try. I'm using the default player in MildWild, Play Music v. 4.1. Before that it was just MIUI Music. Tried PowerAmp a while ago, but it really didn't impress me enough to convince me it's worth paying for.
I recommend RunnyRom...trust me it's the best i've seen, it has beats audio and other stuff,dont really know if there is much of a difference but it sounds better than my pc...
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I had (still do) considered RunnyRom as an alternative. I had used a ROM with Beats Audio before and it was awful. Beats Audio did not work, everyone recommended swapping it on the installation for DSP Manager, the latter being present in MildWild as well. Beats is pretty wide spread these days, but it doesn't always function properly. It's just a brand gimmick anyway.
The fact that OP prefer FLAC files over mp3, I would assume he listens to his music without any or with little use for equalization.
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This is correct. I don't ever use equalizers, although there are a few exceptions. With the HTC Desire I think it's mostly the headphones that make a difference. Unfortunately I don't have good ones. Bought Sennheiser CX 280 and the cable noise is like someone is tapping on the damn thing with their fingernails every step I take.
So thank you all for the suggestions. I will be checking them out. I was really hoping for a ROM specialised in music, I guess there isn't one.

[Q] Video Encoding Settings?

So, I have my N72013, and my 1080p MKV files play, but the audio doesn't. I was wondering if anyone has played with Handbrake / h.264 settings / whatever to get some good quality video on here. I'm more concerned with quality than size.
I'm not super familiar with video encoding, but I'm using handbrake on OSX. Thanks in advance!

I regularly use Handbrake. What is the original source (Blu-ray?) and what are your settings under the Audio tab?

phydo said:
So, I have my N72013, and my 1080p MKV files play, but the audio doesn't. I was wondering if anyone has played with Handbrake / h.264 settings / whatever to get some good quality video on here. I'm more concerned with quality than size.
I'm not super familiar with video encoding, but I'm using handbrake on OSX. Thanks in advance!
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Same issue. Try using MX player with this custom codec : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156254.
It worked for me

Pandae said:
I regularly use Handbrake. What is the original source (Blu-ray?) and what are your settings under the Audio tab?
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Well, the original source is a downloaded MKV. I swear it's all legit. the file has .1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264 appended to it. so it's already an h.264 mkv. I'd prefer to play it in the stock media player on android if possible, with audio. I'm not big on having more apps... kinda freaks me out. I'd rather transcode all the audio in these videos to make it work lol. Yes, I'm that guy.
My audio settings that I'm going to use are whatever you tell me. I haven't transcoded anything yet, because I figured I'd ask here before I made a mistake. Couldn't find much in the way of google besides forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-168407.html - but it wasn't clear to me since I'm not familiar with this stuff, and I think it's more an audio format issue than a video.

If audio was encoded with something that MX Player doesn't handle natively, then as NeXuS7_uSeR said, you'll need a custom codec. It would be faster than re-encoding, unless you wanted to reduce file size in exchange for video quality loss.
Handbrake can change the audio codec, if you've never experimented with that. You can mix down an audio track to regular stereo tracks encoded in MP3, which then any player should handle.

Pandae said:
If audio was encoded with something that MX Player doesn't handle natively, then as NeXuS7_uSeR said, you'll need a custom codec. It would be faster than re-encoding, unless you wanted to reduce file size in exchange for video quality loss.
Handbrake can change the audio codec, if you've never experimented with that. You can mix down an audio track to regular stereo tracks encoded in MP3, which then any player should handle.
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is MX Player really that earth shattering where it's worthwhile downloading as an app?

phydo said:
is MX Player really that earth shattering where it's worthwhile downloading as an app?
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It's been my favorite. I've tried others but don't care for the interfaces. When Android 4.3 broke most video players, I found one that was pretty good (name escapes me right now) except that it didn't handle subtitles well. I keep coming back to MX.

Pandae said:
It's been my favorite. I've tried others but don't care for the interfaces. When Android 4.3 broke most video players, I found one that was pretty good (name escapes me right now) except that it didn't handle subtitles well. I keep coming back to MX.
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Just as a follow up, I did find this commit in CM11
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/56453/
from two days ago. maybe I need an update