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[Q] Make phone "defective" via software mod?

Hey guys,
You all are true genius', so I will ask you all for your help/opinion.
I don't have insurance on my Incredible, because I bought it second hand, and replaced my Eris with it. Verizon won't insure the phone because it wasn't brought through them. However, If i can prove that the phone is defective on it's own accord, ie via software, maybe they will swap it.
**Mod Edit - Warranty Fraud Comments Removed** That way when I show it to them, they would have to default swap it. They would probably try and do a factory reset, but that would keep the same rooted rom, right? Not sure how that works.
Maybe i'm just being silly, and can just pay for what ever the repair is...

That is something called fraud. I don't think you're going to get much help with that

That's rather dishonest, wouldn't you say?

Sorry, I was really upset when I woke up and posted that..anyway I can have this thread deleted please? Rather embarassing, sorry, I'm just really upset i've never had a smartphone break on me

So.... what's wrong with it?

Phone works fine, screen just shattered. I was showing it off to a bunch of Apple people and demonstrating why it ran circles around the iPhone. Set it down on my lap, and then some drunk kid knocked into my chair and it faceplanted onto the floor.
So..cracked screen :-/

1) warranty only covers phones without physical damage
2) drunk kid owes you a phone
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W4LLY said:
Phone works fine, screen just shattered. I was showing it off to a bunch of Apple people and demonstrating why it ran circles around the iPhone. Set it down on my lap, and then some drunk kid knocked into my chair and it faceplanted onto the floor.
So..cracked screen :-/
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That kid would either have a bloody nose or would of payed for my phone in my case
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lol. Yah Verizon could care less if the phone is defective if it has a giant cracked screen. Obviously they would think that the damage to the phone affect the internals of it or something along those lines.

Not sure how you'll get a kid, who involuntarily bumped into you (at a party I'm assuming if the guy was drunk) to pay for your phone, but good luck tracking him down now. Also, probably not a great idea to have your phone sitting on your lap at a place with hard flooring while people are drunk. Put the phone in your pocket or keep it held in your hand.
I lol'd that you broke your phone trying to show up some iPhone users.

1) warranty only covers phones without physical damage
2) drunk kid owes you a phone
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Not true. If you pay for insurance thru Verizon it absolutely covers physical damage, lost, etc. Manufactured warranty would only cover if the damage was because of some defect.
Cory
"Results may vary."

yeah, it's hopeless man, you're life is officially over...
1. Google.com
2. HTC incredible digitizer
3. spend $
4. fix phone

Ive heard of replacement screens being sold on the internet.. not sure where and who would fix it for you..but its an option

It's 120 dollars for HTC's repair contractor to replace the screen. It's not the worst thing in the world.
PS get a case

FYI.
1. Rooting your device voids ANY warranty.
2. Physical damage is not covered under manufacturer warranty. Any software defects are then attributed to the physical damage.
3. Drunk people+smartphone=bad news. Put it away.
4. The device did not break on you. You broke it.
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csseale said:
Not true. If you pay for insurance thru Verizon it absolutely covers physical damage, lost, etc. Manufactured warranty would only cover if the damage was because of some defect.
Cory
"Results may vary."
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Insurance and warranty are not synonymous... so yes, he is absolutely correct. and your "not true" is moot.

AdhvanIt said:
FYI.
1. Rooting your device voids ANY warranty.
2. Physical damage is not covered under manufacturer warranty. Any software defects are then attributed to the physical damage.
3. Drunk people+smartphone=bad news. Put it away.
4. The device did not break on you. You broke it.
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You forgot one.
5. You are a dumbass.

1.) I wasn't trying to, I -did- show up my friends iPhone 4. 3g speed test using opera...not even close.
2.) I had the Verizon case, but it obviously didn't offer the best frontal support.
3.) Violence doesn't solve anything, and it was a random person I don't even know. He didnt purposely knock into me..he was just a drunk idiot. My grip could have been better/been paying attention to it more.
4.) Thank you all for the various replies/solutions.
If HTC replaces the screen for 120$, I'm really ok with that. Apple charges 199$ for an iPhone 4 screen.
I understand how warrantee's work, I fix iPhones all day. I know that accidental/physical damage is not covered under a typical warranty, but Verizon's Insurance policy (7$ a month, with an 80$ deductable) is normally great because it will replace your phone NO MATTER WHAT, that involves falling off a cliff, cracked screen, ect.
The problem is that since i got my Incredible second hand, and not though VZ, they wouldn't transfer my insurance to the new phone. So, I can go back to using my Eris..but I really am in love with my Incredible.
5.) I know rooting voids warranty. If it was a stock root, though, the VZ rep probably wouldn't get it, was my original point. Regardless, if you do a factory reset, or unroot your device, your warranty is no longer voided, no?

I would start checking out the kiosks at your local mall. Our rinky-dink mall has 2 stores that will replaced cracked screens for about $80 - $100.....while you wait...

najaboy said:
Insurance and warranty are not synonymous... so yes, he is absolutely correct. and your "not true" is moot.
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Ok
Cory
"Results may vary."

[Q] Replacing the Camera?

I dropped my G2 and now the camera doesn't work Now the camera button doesn't do anything and I get FC's from any app using the camera. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem since I tried in two different ROMs.
Anyone know a place where I can get the camera module?

shellin said:
I dropped my G2 and now the camera doesn't work Now the camera button doesn't do anything and I get FC's from any app using the camera. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem since I tried in two different ROMs.
Anyone know a place where I can get the camera module?
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You dont mention if your rooted or not? If not why cant you just send it back under warrenty?
And if your rooted, 'try' follow the instructions to unroot....and then send it back .....
edit - I should learn to read...you are rooted lol....but still id be trying to unroot

Yep, I'm rooted (albeit with the old ENG method)
I thought that physical/drop damage wasn't covered under warranty?

shellin said:
I thought that physical/drop damage wasn't covered under warranty?
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If you got the accidental damage warranty from Tmo when you got the phone, you can send it in for replacement.

b3orion said:
If you got the accidental damage warranty from Tmo when you got the phone, you can send it in for replacement.
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I didn't know T-Mobile offered accidental damage warranties. I thought they only had the PHP insurance.

shellin said:
Yep, I'm rooted (albeit with the old ENG method)
I thought that physical/drop damage wasn't covered under warranty?
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I think they would struggle to say you dropped it (assuming theres no massive signs of impact).....always worth a try?!

rtorbs said:
I think they would struggle to say you dropped it (assuming theres no massive signs of impact).....always worth a try?!
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No, it is NOT worth the try... because once you've posted all over the internet that you dropped it, it is provably FRAUD (prison time...) to try to pass it off without disclosing to the manufacturer that it was, in fact, dropped.

The thing is, on the bottom right part of the front of my phone, there's some chipping of the plastic :/ I think it's a bit obvious that I dropped it now. I didn't get the handset protection, which I really regret now
But back to my original question: can I easily replace the camera and is there a site that sells camera parts?
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dhkr123 said:
No, it is NOT worth the try... because once you've posted all over the internet that you dropped it, it is provably FRAUD (prison time...) to try to pass it off without disclosing to the manufacturer that it was, in fact, dropped.
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Wow law enforcement agencies in your area really must have a lot of time on their hands....im not aware of a single person receiveing time for returning a phone under similar circumstances.....!!!
Ive had countless phones for countless years and legitimately paid for insurnace and never claimed so its what i would call 'karma'....and whether you did or didnt drop it, sh*t does occassionaly randomly stop working....
I think its more down to your own moral standing....but as for posting it on the web, its obviously better that you dont !
NB - just for the record before I get shot down in flames, I'm not openly condoning criminal activity, were not talking about doing this on a commercial scale this is as a result of an accident.....read the small print on your phone and or home insurance and see if you are covered but don't freak out about it

shellin said:
The thing is, on the bottom right part of the front of my phone, there's some chipping of the plastic :/ I think it's a bit obvious that I dropped it now. I didn't get the handset protection, which I really regret now
But back to my original question: can I easily replace the camera and is there a site that sells camera parts?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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You could try the following ? they dont list as having a camera modules in as of now but that might be becasue the phone is so new ? Cant hurt to email though I guess.....
http://www.gultek.eu/home.php
And good luck with that, god knows what it will cost you ? Depending on your home insurance excess id possibly see if its worth replacing it that way ?....just dont mention it to the guy above lol

rtorbs said:
Wow law enforcement agencies in your area really must have a lot of time on their hands....im not aware of a single person receiveing time for returning a phone under similar circumstances.....!!!
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Then you're LUCKY, because law enforcement is OUT TO GET YOU, despite the flowers and bunnies picture of the world that you mistakenly have.

dhkr123 said:
Then you're LUCKY, because law enforcement is OUT TO GET YOU, despite the flowers and bunnies picture of the world that you mistakenly have.
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Dude seriously.....flowers and bunnies? Are you on acid ?
Your obviously one of three things.....a cop, an insurance salesman or a religious nutcase.....all off which I have utter contempt for lol
Right I promise to make this my last post on this topic....
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With the exception of Ned Flanders above who clearly lives in Pleasantville, la la land the vast majority of people on here live in the real world. You have to accept that sometimes, legitimately or otherwise things happen outside of the realms of what you are covered for....If you were to insure your items for every possible waking scenario your policy cost would far outweigh that of the items insured thus being totally unreasonable.
Now I'm pretty sure that the OP isn't running a multi billion pound insurance fraud empire, he's just an average Joe who's worked hard to pay for a phone which is now damaged. Whilst I'm not saying its ok to be fraudulent, sometimes rules need to be bent to suit a scenario in which you 'are' covered, i,e if your phone insurance doesn't cover for damage but your house insurance does then claim on that, or if your covered for loss and theft (then you could theoretically 'accidently' lose it.....!)
To put this into perspective I currently pay Household, Car, Phone, Life, Teeth and Pet insurance (to name but a few) totalling hundreds if not thousands of pounds per year and have yet to make a claim and insurance companies make millions each year from this. Its also stated that to warrant insurance you'd need to make on average at least 2 claims per year....which the vast majority of people never do. So while I appreciate your point I think you need to get off your high horse, and change your 'mightier than thou' mentality.....go to church, say your 100 hail Marys or whatever it is you feel you need to do to redeem yourself over this obviously criminal conversation lol
Also - I'm also fairly sure that he will learn from this and will take the relevant accidental damage insurance out going forward. And should I see the OP's name in my local tabloids tomorrow for having run said multi billion pound insurance fraud empire I personally will eat my desire for the delight of you !
Oh and one last thing......NO ONE is out to get me, or you or anyone else for that matter (unless your a full blown crook?!)....this isn't a conspiracy theory......oh and err and crackpot extremist Muslims DID blow up the world trade centre....its wasn't the US government, Aliens or any of those pesky bunnies you previously mentioned just in case you were too scared to leave the house ?! lol
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Manufacturers warranties do not cover damage do to misuse or negligence. Quit rationalizing.
Sent from my HTC Vision

Hot_Hands said:
Manufacturers warranties do not cover damage do to misuse or negligence. Quit rationalizing.
Sent from my HTC Vision
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Man.....
The whole idea of this site is about the freedom of choice and the ability to run custom ROMs etc etc on your phone but the whole concept whilst not illegal goes against the manufactures warranty and what they would have you do with your handset....hence the reason why there's so many requests to unroot/revert in the event of an issue.... and I know you know this.
If you accidently bricked your handset as a result of a bad flash or whatever .....your first port of call isn't to go out and buy another handset is it? (unless your a lottery winner, stupid or any combination therof) You'd try and undo what youve done and if needs be send it back to the manufactor hoping they will fix it without spotting any changes (or at least thats what id do....and im pretty sure so would thousands of others) but where then do you draw the line ? That is in fact also dodgy .....but its a bit of a grey area and whilst not a hardware issue its just as ropey a topic, yet you somehow pick and choose the bits of the rules you adhere to ? Go figure !!.....If HTC found that you had changed any element internally resulting in a malfunction you'd probably incur a charge same as if they found that you 'had' dropped the device and damaged the hardware but result is still the same.....
I've had devices that have been looked after, never dropped or abused and hardware does sometimes stop working....does that mean I'm not eligible to make a claim ? NO, does it also automatically imply that I've misused or neglected the item ? NO....its down to the discretion of the person reviewing the item and obviously an internal inspection.
So whether you ultimately source an independent part or return it regardless (hoping they fix it for free) but end up having to pay what they ask.....your still going to have to pay someone !! All I'm trying to say as a result of all this is....What have you got to lose? Nothing.....if it gets through great, if it doesn't your no worse off.
Whilst my view on the subject maybe different from yours I still agree that you take the appropriate cover and you are responsible for your item, but don't come on here giving it all the 'rules and regulations talk' when in fact your very being here is breaking the rules in the first instance.....
Thanks though

What the hell are you talking about? Cut out the strawman arguments. I've never bricked a phone out of negligence and when I've cracked a screen I've fixed it out of pocket. This has nothing to do with custom roms.
Sent from my HTC Vision

And last I checked (in America) rooting, custom roms and all that wasn't illegal. I just hate the rampant fraud on xda that ****s up legitimate returns and pushes manufacturers to add more and more security.
Edit: wrong thread
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Hot_Hands said:
What the hell are you talking about? Cut out the strawman arguments. I've never bricked a phone out of negligence and when I've cracked a screen I've fixed it out of pocket. This has nothing to do with custom roms.
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Oooooooo !!!
lol whoever said you did ? But plenty of people on here have and its primarily deemed ok to return a phone on that basis.....but not on damaged hardware basis?!
And by your own admission.....
If you drop your phone thats damage due to neglect
If you flash a rom and it goes bad thats damage due to missuse
But the principal is the same....damage is damage and the hot topic was about returning a damaged phone.....my missus works in insurance and I happen to understand how a return policy works (the same applies for a manufacturors return).....its not down to you to prove you didnt drop it its down to the review to prove you did..... all i originally mentioned was try return it and see what they say.....if theres physical damage internally you'd be hard pressed to say you didnt drop it, but if something has just come lose you could argue that it worked its way lose thats all....
I quite frankly dont give a sh*t about the moral element (which is what seemed to be the issue)
At the end of the day all that will happen is they will either repair it for free or they wont.....f**K me!
And if you actually read my post, I never said rooting and custom ROMs was illegal but companies like HTC and whoever dont spend millions on development of encryption and preventative measures for sh*ts and giggles mate, they do it to prevent a a mass influx of devices getting returned due to missuse/bad flashes (amongst other things).....they wont openly just accept devices that have been tamperred with as its not good business sense....so whilst not illegal you try return a phone thats had a change of software/HBOOT/Whatever and see you willing they are to accept it.......errr not very.....hence the reason why so many people ask about unrooting etc !
Now pi55 off

Hot_Hands said:
What the hell are you talking about? Cut out the strawman arguments. I've never bricked a phone out of negligence and when I've cracked a screen I've fixed it out of pocket. This has nothing to do with custom roms.
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Oooooooo !!!
lol whoever said you did ? But plenty of people on here have and its primarily deemed ok to return a phone on that basis.....but not on damaged hardware basis?!
And by your own admission.....
If you drop your phone thats damage due to neglect
If you flash a rom and it goes bad thats damage due to missuse
But the principal is the same....damage is damage and the hot topic was about returning a damaged phone.....my missus works in insurance and I happen to understand how a return policy works (the same applies for a manufacturors return).....its not down to you to prove you didnt drop it its down to the review to prove you did..... all i originally mentioned was try return it and see what they say.....if theres physical damage internally you'd be hard pressed to say you didnt drop it, but if something has just come lose you could argue that it worked its way lose thats all....
I quite frankly dont give a sh*t about the moral element (which is what seemed to be the issue)
At the end of the day all that will happen is they will either repair it for free or they wont.....f**K me!
And if you actually read my post, I never said rooting and custom ROMs was illegal but companies like HTC and whoever dont spend millions on development of encryption and preventative measures for sh*ts and giggles mate, they do it to prevent a a mass influx of devices getting returned due to missuse/bad flashes (amongst other things).....they wont openly just accept devices that have been tamperred with as its not good business sense....so whilst not illegal you try return a phone thats had a change of software/HBOOT/Whatever and see you willing they are to accept it.......errr not very.....hence the reason why so many people ask about unrooting etc !
Now pi55 off

Hot_Hands said:
And last I checked (in America) rooting, custom roms and all that wasn't illegal. I just hate the rampant fraud on xda that ****s up legitimate returns and pushes manufacturers to add more and more security.
Edit: wrong thread
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Look I agree on the fraud side but were not talking about throwing your phone on the floor whenever you want a new one, or regularly taking the pi55 with bogus claims but sometimes accidents happen and why after paying for insurance shouldnt you be entitled to a replacement irrespective of the reason the damage came about?
And as much as much as I love the products etc I have yet to receive one that works 100% from the offset (and i have to put up with and accept this....and who's stood fighting my corner as a consumer?) .....see my post 'desire behaving badly'. I paid £420 for a phone and havent touched it (in terms of root etc) yet it still has faults and i negate this fact by occasionaly bending the rules and maybe getting a replacement.....its swings and round abouts......
If you have a problem with that, thats fine........I dont.

[Q] Warranty

Could someone please help shed some light on this subject for me?
If I revert my phone back to stock using RUU and relock the bootloader will my warranty still work (even though it says relocked on bootloader?)
I ask because I rang HTC the other week as I have a dead pixel on my screen and they said my warranty was void as I had performed HTCDev Unlock on the phone.

Thats total crap. Unlocking the bootloader does not invalidate your warranty, HTC made the bootloader unlockable for it's customers.

Yes, depends on them.....btw... did you tell them about the htcdev unlock...or did they find it out themself ?
While unlocking...you accept that "It may viod your warranty "

I believe the warranty still covers hardware if it wasn't caused by software I could be wrong.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

mathrania said:
Yes, depends on them.....btw... did you tell them about the htcdev unlock...or did they find it out themself ?
While unlocking...you accept that "It may viod your warranty "
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i stupidly mentioned it but the good thing is that they didnt get my name or any other details over the phone so am i still safe?

treebill said:
I believe the warranty still covers hardware if it wasn't caused by software I could be wrong.
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thats exactly what i said to her on the phone. she made me so angry.
next thing i heard from her was "sir if you continue swearing im going to have to end this call" lmao

They would have to show the software somehow caused a pixel to fail.
Frankly I don't fancy their chances.
They may wish to wash their hands of users who don't enjoy their buggy software, but if you choose to run Linux on your Toshiba laptop, Toshiba won't suddenly start telling you it's out of warranty when the screen breaks.
This will be tested over and over, and HTC will lose at every turn.
Stand your ground, submit it for warranty repair, and if they say it'll cost you go see a consumer rights group in your relevant country.

f4flake said:
They would have to show the software somehow caused a pixel to fail.
Frankly I don't fancy their chances.
They may wish to wash their hands of users who don't enjoy their buggy software, but if you choose to run Linux on your Toshiba laptop, Toshiba won't suddenly start telling you it's out of warranty when the screen breaks.
This will be tested over and over, and HTC will lose at every turn.
Stand your ground, submit it for warranty repair, and if they say it'll cost you go see a consumer rights group in your relevant country.
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i totally agree with you there buddy, perfect example with the laptop.
i mean seriously, on planet earth how the hell do they expect software to form a dead pixel. and besides the dead pixel was there before I unlocked through htc.
silly me as always impatient and couldnt wait to unbrand my phone and get all the laggyness off i unlocked and installed custom rom.

p2nv said:
thats exactly what i said to her on the phone. she made me so angry.
next thing i heard from her was "sir if you continue swearing im going to have to end this call" lmao
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Lol, you Australians love to swear..

TommUK said:
Lol, you Australians love to swear..
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When people don't even know their own policies its quite annoying lol
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

In the UK at least the warranty is in addition to statutory consumer rights which says basically that the phone should be free from any defects caused by faulty materials or workmanship, it must be "fit for purpose" and for a "reasonable time". As contracts last for 2 years it is not unreasonable to expect a phone to last for 3-4 years. It is also illegal for a company to ask you to disclaim your statutory rights.
What all this basically means is that regardless of bootloader unlock you can sue HTC in a very easy small claims action (you can do it all online) if they refuse to repair your device for any reason and you can show the fault arose through no fault of your own. My bootloader is unlocked and this is exactly what I will be doing should the situation arise
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In australia they have to prove that unlock caused the fault. Same as generic printer inks - they cannot automatically void warranty if you use them, they actually have to prove the ink was the problem.
M.
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[Q] The truth about being rooted and taking phone back to sprint for replacement.

I know the general consensus is that sprint wont help with bricks or replace a phone due to rooting/Modding issues... but are there any sprint employees on here who know of a loophole? I've heard some say that it is still covered in warranty. Any insight from those who have had experiences with this?
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mrush said:
I know the general consensus is that sprint wont help with bricks or replace a phone due to rooting/Modding issues... but are there any sprint employees on here who know of a loophole? I've heard some say that it is still covered in warranty. Any insight from those who have had experiences with this?
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They should not hold it against you. They are supposed to treat it as if it were stock, and follow the same procedure as any other phone that is having issues. Some techs / service centers think they are the " Gods of Stock phones" and may try to make a big deal of your "rooted" or "tampered" with device. If they do give you a hard time, just leave with your device and go to another repair center. I think in the grand scheme of things, the percentage of customers who actually root and mod their devices is very small. It would be wise of you to at least have the service and repair coverage on your phone before you go in for replacement though. If you need it added PM me for more info...

I have had great experience with Sprint Tech's some of which are very familiar with rooting and the XDA forum. So did you brick your phone? Maybe it can be saved. I soft bricked mine but was able to boot into recovery and flash a stock unrooted rom and was able to re-root.
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Next1776 said:
They should not hold it against you. They are supposed to treat it as if it were stock, and follow the same procedure as any other phone that is having issues. Some techs / service centers think they are the " Gods of Stock phones" and may try to make a big deal of your "rooted" or "tampered" with device. If they do give you a hard time, just leave with your device and go to another repair center. I think in the grand scheme of things, the percentage of customers who actually root and mod their devices is very small. It would be wise of you to at least have the service and repair coverage on your phone before you go in for replacement though. If you need it added PM me for more info...
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corporate policy states rooted phones are covered.
keep in mind this may not be the case at third party retailers and that any store manager can use their discretion to protect the company.....I.e. repeated hard bricks etc
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Next1776 said:
They should not hold it against you. They are supposed to treat it as if it were stock, and follow the same procedure as any other phone that is having issues. Some techs / service centers think they are the " Gods of Stock phones" and may try to make a big deal of your "rooted" or "tampered" with device. If they do give you a hard time, just leave with your device and go to another repair center. I think in the grand scheme of things, the percentage of customers who actually root and mod their devices is very small. It would be wise of you to at least have the service and repair coverage on your phone before you go in for replacement though. If you need it added PM me for more info...
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Doesn't work too well if you only have one repair center for miles.
I usually just bring it back to them stock as that's all my repair center knows how to do anyways.
Sent from a little old Note 2

digiblur said:
Doesn't work too well if you only have one repair center for miles.
I usually just bring it back to them stock as that's all my repair center knows how to do anyways.
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if you have insurance and you know that they are going to give you a problem then your better off just smashing it, or run it over with your car. I bought my last phone at best buy and didn't have root on it just adw (Evo LTE). When the screen broke I brought it in and they gave me a hard time telling me that it was rooted and they don't cover rooted phones. He went out of his way to tell me that they do cover jail broke iphones though.. I then had to get his supervisor over and show her that it was not rooted and asked her if it was store policy to get there customers a hard time. 30 f n days later I got my phone back with a new screen.

ProCision said:
if you have insurance and you know that they are going to give you a problem then your better off just smashing it, or run it over with your car. I bought my last phone at best buy and didn't have root on it just adw (Evo LTE). When the screen broke I brought it in and they gave me a hard time telling me that it was rooted and they don't cover rooted phones. He went out of his way to tell me that they do cover jail broke iphones though.. I then had to get his supervisor over and show her that it was not rooted and asked her if it was store policy to get there customers a hard time. 30 f n days later I got my phone back with a new screen.
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The insurance is very helpful, I've done this on multiple occasions. I just dont like to deal with them giving me a hard time
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Nowadays when you deal with a broken phone you can just go online to Asurion cause they are the Insurance provider and they will ship you a refurbished phone and when you receive it you call them on the phone switch your IED # (or what ever it's called for Sprint since we dont have removable SIM cards) and then drop your busted one in the return shipping envelope and by then its done and you have your phone and it will just be shipped back to them to be disassembled. Then they will just try and salvage any parts they can for another refurbished device for another customer.

If its bricked ( as in won't boot up or similar) most techs won't know why, or how it got that way, so they should swap it out without a problem. Stock phones get bricked too. Recovering a bricked device can be time consuming and most likely a service center will not want, or have the knowledge, to take the time to save a device instead of exchanging it.
Running over or physically breaking your device and then doing an insurance claim through Sprints insurance provider (Asurion) is kind a silly thing to do (unless physical damage makes it necessary ) because you will be paying a deductible. A bricked non physically damaged unit can be swapped out at no charge if you have the Service and Repair coverage or TEP coverage.
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Next1776 said:
If its bricked ( as in won't boot up or similar) most techs won't know why, or how it got that way, so they should swap it out without a problem. Stock phones get bricked too. Recovering a bricked device can be time consuming and most likely a service center will not want, or have the knowledge, to take the time to save a device instead of exchanging it.
Running over or physically breaking your device and then doing an insurance claim through Sprints insurance provider (Asurion) is kind a silly thing to do (unless physical damage makes it necessary ) because you will be paying a deductible. A bricked non physically damaged unit can be swapped out at no charge if you have the Service and Repair coverage or TEP coverage.
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I wasn't recommending physically breaking it either. I was just saying that if you aren't a good talker and are afraid of facing someone and don't want to do a face to face then go through asurion. I wouldn't have a problem doing so, 85% of people who work in customer service either don't have the know how or the balls to tell someone they are wrong. You would be amazed what you can get from people with confidence.

Tw1sted247 said:
I wasn't recommending physically breaking it either. I was just saying that if you aren't a good talker and are afraid of facing someone and don't want to do a face to face then go through asurion. I wouldn't have a problem doing so, 85% of people who work in customer service either don't have the know how or the balls to tell someone they are wrong. You would be amazed what you can get from people with confidence.
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the problem I have with this is that physical damage claims through assurion require a deductable now. a hefty one on this phone.
when in doubt back up and unroot. it takes all of 5 minutes to do.
but as for the question at hand...they are supposed to be covered.
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When I go into sprint I just simply unroot.. I did that with my epic 4G touch when I took it in.. Im trying to think how did the Rep even get my phone lol.. I just went in to get a note 2..But rooting came up and She was going on and on with how they don't cover rooted phones.. I was laughing inside due to the phone she was holding has been rooted so many times and it would be no way to tell
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Direct from sprints Methods and Procedures
If the jailbreaking and modification are so extensive that the device cannot be used or triaged by the normal processes, then the device must be flagged as Red (Not Repairable) and are therefore not eligible for exchange.
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Basically meaning that if you come in with a totally bricked non bootable device and the boot loader shows device as modified we aren't allowed to do anything.
If the device works and is just having issues they are supposed to flash the stock software back to the phone as a resolution before doing an exchange.

Darkendvoid88 said:
Direct from sprints Methods and Procedures
Basically meaning that if you come in with a totally bricked non bootable device and the boot loader shows device as modified we aren't allowed to do anything.
If the device works and is just having issues they are supposed to flash the stock software back to the phone as a resolution before doing an exchange.
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interesting. I dont recall seeing that part previously.
of course though if a device doesn't boot...there really is no way to tell if it was rooted
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00mred00 said:
interesting. I dont recall seeing that part previously.
of course though if a device doesn't boot...there really is no way to tell if it was rooted
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Maybe maybe not...it seems we may have spyware on our vanillaish devices...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015149
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00mred00 said:
the problem I have with this is that physical damage claims through assurion require a deductable now. a hefty one on this phone.
when in doubt back up and unroot. it takes all of 5 minutes to do.
but as for the question at hand...they are supposed to be covered.
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Just asking did you even read THE VERY FIRST sentence of the post you quoted? I stated that I was NOT recommending to physically break it. Then you proceed to quote the post and say the problem you have with the stated method is physical damage claims have a deductible... ?

I've taken obviously rooted phones for repair and never had any issues. Matter of fact on a couple of occasions I was asked for help with rooting.
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Sprint will not provide support for phones that are rooted or running 3rd party software (roms). That is to say that if you are having issues with data, apps or such and running a rooted rom you will be required to return the phone to stock before any is performed. They Justdon't havethe resources to support every software variety out there. That's not to say that mechanical failure is no longer covered. I do still recommend returning a phone to stock before bringing it into a repair center regardless of the issue. If this seems like too much trouble then perhaps rooting and customizing is not for you.
iPhones are a whole different animal however and any jail broken iPhone is no longer covered and employees have been instructed to flag the device. This is due to Apple.
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if you have insurance and you know that they are going to give you a problem then your better off just smashing it, or run it over with your car. I bought my last phone at best buy and didn't have root on it just adw (Evo LTE). When the screen broke I brought it in and they gave me a hard time telling me that it was rooted and they don't cover rooted phones. He went out of his way to tell me that they do cover jail broke iphones though.. I then had to get his supervisor over and show her that it was not rooted and asked her if it was store policy to get there customers a hard time. 30 f n days later I got my phone back with a new screen.
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Best who? Never... Oh wait. That's the store, the mobile dept specifically, that I have vowed to never spend another dime in. Treated like trash twice... Not again.
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Tw1sted247 said:
Just asking did you even read THE VERY FIRST sentence of the post you quoted? I stated that I was NOT recommending to physically break it. Then you proceed to quote the post and say the problem you have with the stated method is physical damage claims have a deductible... ?
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you made reference to a broken screen and to asurion ...deductible applies
all I am saying
schale01....the information you are posting is incorrect in regards to corporate repair stores. the policy was chamged last year to cover rooted phones
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Insurance claim

I thought I was doing good by being honest ,basically rooted n had custom Rom for device but now back on t-mobile rom . Told them this but they say I'm not covered , basically can't pull ring to unlock n phone randomly flickers when on web and zooms in and out.
They said I didn't take due care to follow manufacturers guidelines and something about downloading an electronic virus .
Am I best just to send it for repair via store and pay the damage ?
9quid for 8months for nothing
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Sounds like a hardware fault, send it to HTC under warranty

9quid? So from the UK?
You're covered by consumer protection laws. Sounds like your digitiser is faulty. Ensure its returned to stock and return it to the shop from whence it came. Dont take no for an answer.

Yeah 9quid a month insurance ,30 line rental. I was worried that they would find out anyway . Going to phone t-mo cs and ask.for repair but no say anything lol
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It doesn't matter whether they find out.
It sounds like a hardware fault, a manufacturing defect. You don't even need insurance, unless it occurred after dropping it.
The EU recently decided that installing custom ROMs is fine. You'll just have one less thing to argue if you return it to stock.
Your complaint is with the retailer, not HTC.

Thanks for your help , I suppose in essence it shouldnt matter what Rom I run the screen should work . I'll book it in for repair the now . I should have just chucked it off wall. Guy in tmo store said that its the people who are honest that miss out

Good Luck with it, I had deductions when I wanted to update my O.S, into gingerbread. Didn't know if I will make a mistake, damage my phone and if then they will give me the insurance.

Insurance took 10-15mins of putting me on hold to find the terms and conditions , last one x I had smashed in my pocket when I fell off bike lol so thought it best to have it this time
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