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Unrevoked 1-click apk defeated in recent update?

My Evo is doing fine, but I was trying to help a friend root his yesterday and the Unrevoked 1-click apk didn't appear to be doing the trick. The only difference I can think of between our two phones is that I haven't downloaded the update that came this week. Has Sprint defeated this root method in the most recent patch?

Yes...they are up to UnrEVOked 3.

chazglenn3 said:
Yes...they are up to UnrEVOked 3.
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Right, this method requires you to use a PC though, right? I'm wondering if its still possible to root it using the unrevoked on-phone application, or has this been defeated? And if so, was the defeat in the most recent patch?

bump. I'm afraid the answer given is still a bit unclear to me. Can someone please clarify?

Make sure you are going to 'unrevoked.com/m' if you want to use it on your phone and avoid having to use the pc method. I forgot the /m when I first tried it and got pretty confused as well.

ashbare said:
Make sure you are going to 'unrevoked.com/m' if you want to use it on your phone and avoid having to use the pc method. I forgot the /m when I first tried it and got pretty confused as well.
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Yes, this is exactly what I did. The apk downloaded and installed, but didn't appear to gain root when I ran it. I ran it several times, but every time I attempted to run wifi tether, it would say that I wasn't root.

You can try downloading the Simple Root app from the development forum, Its only 4 clicks and its a legitimate full root. It does require the PC, but you seem to know how to use one of those as you got to this website.
Don't take shortcuts because your not sure what you're doing, learn

Mast3rpyr0 said:
You can try downloading the Simple Root app from the development forum, Its only 4 clicks and its a legitimate full root. It does require the PC, but you seem to know how to use one of those as you got to this website.
Don't take shortcuts because your not sure what you're doing, learn
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Thank you for the reply. I'll probably end up Simple Root for myself, but this is for a somewhat elderly friend of mine. He only needs root for wifi tether, since he can't get broadband where he lives (3g is okay). I figured the apk root method would be suitable for him since he would know how to uninstall it if he needed to claim is warranty or something. I won't be around to support his phone for him.
Anyway, thanks again. I'm still learning myself and appreciate the advice.

Ahh ok, he can always hit the wipe button and it will go back to a state good enough for the average sprint rep.

I Installed unrevoked 3by usb because i got last version 147.651.1. Its anyway to unroot and get back to stock rom. I tried different ways and nothing for example i wiped data, hard reset . etc.
Right now i dont have wifi is unable and that why i would like get back to stock. Also i use the method with htc sync and the ruu 132.651.1 andgive me error 171 then reintall the ruu give me error 140 and boot to the main screen/
Please any solution to get back to stock .
thanks in advanced,

[Q] How can I check if I've successfully rooted?

OK, now I temprooted with Visionary r14, and it seems to have taken. Thing is, I tried temprooting and...well, it seemed to fumble the first time, but then it took and I was able to see the Superuser app. Thing is, the superuser app remained even after swapping SD cards, and even after taking the battery out and putting it back in again.
Now today, i successfully created a 2 GB Goldcard, and temprooted again, just to make sure, and attempted permroot. Fist attempt just rebooted the phone, terminal app did not show "#", just said "access denied".
Second time however, the permroot SEEMS to have taken. I retain SU access even with NO SD card in the phone and a full reboot.
I want to check, however, that it is indeed a full permroot, and not just visionary's temproot every reboot option - the ONLY checkbo I have marked in visionary is "set system r/w after root". Is there a way I can do this? Has anyone encountered this before?

Try Terminal Emulator again... see if you get the #
Or try another Market app that only works with root.
I've used Visionary on a couple of DHDs now and had to temproot and permroot twice on each before it worked.

I get the # again for sure, even after another reboot, but just to be extra sure, I'd like to download a root market app. Can you recommend me one?

It's not free, but I highly recommend Root Explorer, if only for the fact you can change system files without the need to connect to a PC and use ADB.
Other great root-only apps are:
Titanium Backup (free and paid version - another essential app)
SetCPU (paid)
Wireless Tether (free)
Root Tools (paid but cheap)
Actually, I just found this app:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/root-checker/com.joeykrim.rootcheck
I haven't tested myself it but it might be useful for you.

It worked and I also used the Radio S-Off tool successfully. Thank you kindly.

OK, another question. I want to install CyanogenMod 6.1 RC2 NOT the latest release. I've downloaded the file from CyanogenMod's download section:
CyanogenMod Forum
> Downloads
> Experimental Mod
> HTC Desire HD
> update-cm-6.1.0-RC2-DesireHD-signed.zip
But I'm confused: is this a full ROM, or just an update? It looks a little on the small side: 69 MB. I thought roms typically ran between 100-200 mb?

SleeperService said:
It worked and I also used the Radio S-Off tool successfully. Thank you kindly.
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Happy to help
SleeperService said:
OK, another question. I want to install CyanogenMod 6.1 RC2 NOT the latest release. I've downloaded the file from CyanogenMod's download section:
CyanogenMod Forum
> Downloads
> Experimental Mod
> HTC Desire HD
> update-cm-6.1.0-RC2-DesireHD-signed.zip
But I'm confused: is this a full ROM, or just an update? It looks a little on the small side: 69 MB. I thought roms typically ran between 100-200 mb?
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I'm not sure about CM roms as I prefer Sense to vanilla Android, but I'd say the size difference is probably due to it being a stripped down build...ie no carrier bloatware, no Google Apps and none of the Sense stuff that probably adds a fair bit to the file size.
You're best best would be to look for the CM roms thread in the development section. You'll get some expert advice there

Thanks, but I can't post in the development section because I'm such a noob. Will do so when I get there though. Many thanks, you've been extremely helpful.

SleeperService said:
Thanks, but I can't post in the development section because I'm such a noob. Will do so when I get there though. Many thanks, you've been extremely helpful.
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Get your post count up by telling people their custom themes are nice in the Themes section... or post about your experience with battery life in the Battery Life thread in General section
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Go to Market and search for "Root Checker" by joeykrim. Quite an useful app to check whether the phone is rooted and has a proper busybox installed after installing clockworkmod.
Quite useful app. do check that out and post whether it was useful or not.

SleeperService said:
But I'm confused: is this a full ROM, or just an update? It looks a little on the small side: 69 MB. I thought roms typically ran between 100-200 mb?
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that's normal for a CM rom, once you figure in the Google apps (which are distributed seperately) your looking at 80-90MB with the missing stuff being the bloatware. Out of interest why are you not using 6.1.3?

[Q] To be clarified

Hi everyone!
I've been reading lots of threads around the forum, evan before i decide to register...
I found lots of helpfull information, actualyi've unlock, debrand and changed my radio thanks to the information found here.
I'm S-Off, Eng-Off, Rooted, Super CID.
Now, this is my question:
I'm runningAndriod 2.2 (I've never chanded this)
Software 1.32.405.6 CL278359 release-keys
Radio 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
Is that software version "compatible" with the radio i'm using?
Cause i read somewhere that there's compatible radios for diferent softwares.
I don't want to change my software, first i will loose root, and all the languages available.(I tried the OTA 1.83, and i rolled back to 1.32)
Any sort of help will be (belive me) very helpfull.
I'm new on android (I was on Symbian with samsung i8910), so sorry if i said something stupid or with non sense!

lmsvvavr said:
Hi everyone!
I've been reading lots of threads around the forum, evan before i decide to register...
I found lots of helpfull information, actualyi've unlock, debrand and changed my radio thanks to the information found here.
I'm S-Off, Eng-Off, Rooted, Super CID.
Now, this is my question:
I'm runningAndriod 2.2 (I've never chanded this)
Software 1.32.405.6 CL278359 release-keys
Radio 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
Is that software version "compatible" with the radio i'm using?
Cause i read somewhere that there's compatible radios for diferent softwares.
I don't want to change my software, first i will loose root, and all the languages available.(I tried the OTA 1.83, and i rolled back to 1.32)
Any sort of help will be (belive me) very helpfull.
I'm new on android (I was on Symbian with samsung i8910), so sorry if i said something stupid or with non sense!
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Every custom ROM has its own compatible radio, and is mostly sugfgested along with the ROM, so you shouldnt have any problems... As far I know once you have rooted your system, it stays, but you will have to format everytime you switch ROMs... And the ROM developers do tend to give language support...
Hope I have been helpful!

thank you for your reply...
Another question i have is, is that safe to have the phone S-OFF and ENG-OFF all times?
Also, can i uninstall "superuser" and "visionary plus"?
Or do i still need them?
If i uninstall them do i loose root?

Also another thing is, my radio when i'm not using the home network uses around 75% of the battery usage.
Is this normal?
All the other apps running they use about 2% - 4%...

lmsvvavr said:
thank you for your reply...
Another question i have is, is that safe to have the phone S-OFF and ENG-OFF all times?
Also, can i uninstall "superuser" and "visionary plus"?
Or do i still need them?
If i uninstall them do i loose root?
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Hi there!
Sure it is safe to have s-off and eng-off. What are you afraid of? If you're planing to continue modifying your device e.g. flashing other kernels, radios, bootscreen.... you need to have s-off and eng-off. One can say, you'll need it for everything that requires root. Btw I never heard of any threats caused by leaving s-off / eng-off.
You can uninstall visionary plus there won't be any problems with root. It's not an active app that runs in the background of your system preventing you from losing root ;-)! It's not needed anymore as soon as you have permanent root. Uninstall it but keep the *.apk on your SD so you can reinstall it in case you need it again, but you shouldn't as long as you have root, which you won't lose by uninstalling it. Did i make myself clear? ;-)
Superuser....
You should keep it! Because it manages all your root apps. Automatically giving them root rights as soon as they need them. e.g. you're using setCPU for changing your cpu frequency. For doing that setcpu needs root which is granted and managed by superuser. So you won't lose root when uninstalling it but it might be that some of your apps won't work anymore, depending on their superuser rights. As I mentioned, you better keep it.
lmsvvavr said:
Also another thing is, my radio when i'm not using the home network uses around 75% of the battery usage.
Is this normal?
All the other apps running they use about 2% - 4%...
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Could you specify that? where did you see that? What do you mean by home network? Your Wifi at home? What are your general settings? What is synced and how often? What type of network are you using, 2g, 3g, HSDPA, when not connected to wifi? When not using wifi did you turn of the wifi notifications? juices your battery! It is pretty much a setting issue, mostly... and not a radio problem. As i can see in #1 your radio is right.
Bye, rgds
Felge

c_felge said:
Hi there!
Sure it is safe to have s-off and eng-off. What are you afraid of? If you're planing to continue modifying your device e.g. flashing other kernels, radios, bootscreen.... you need to have s-off and eng-off. One can say, you'll need it for everything that requires root. Btw I never heard of any threats caused by leaving s-off / eng-off.
You can uninstall visionary plus there won't be any problems with root. It's not an active app that runs in the background of your system preventing you from losing root ;-)! It's not needed anymore as soon as you have permanent root. Uninstall it but keep the *.apk on your SD so you can reinstall it in case you need it again, but you shouldn't as long as you have root, which you won't lose by uninstalling it. Did i make myself clear? ;-)
Superuser....
You should keep it! Because it manages all your root apps. Automatically giving them root rights as soon as they need them. e.g. you're using setCPU for changing your cpu frequency. For doing that setcpu needs root which is granted and managed by superuser. So you won't lose root when uninstalling it but it might be that some of your apps won't work anymore, depending on their superuser rights. As I mentioned, you better keep it.
Could you specify that? where did you see that? What do you mean by home network? Your Wifi at home? What are your general settings? What is synced and how often? What type of network are you using, 2g, 3g, HSDPA, when not connected to wifi? When not using wifi did you turn of the wifi notifications? juices your battery! It is pretty much a setting issue, mostly... and not a radio problem. As i can see in #1 your radio is right
Bye, rgds
Felge
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Hi
Thank you for a so complete answer.
For the first bit I'm clarified.
When i said safe, i was thinking about if was possible any other application damage the
Phone by modify the system folders/files.
About the second, is just because my battery lasts for about 12 hours only... i was just wondering if that is normal...
I admit, i have the phone for about 1 week, and I'm not sure how long should the battery last,
Obviously, depend on usage, but I can tell in the 12 hours of battery, I use the internet for about 1:30 hours.
But thank you for your answer.

[Q] Rooting for beginners.

I recently purchased an XPlay and I'm having issues with the battery/ I've followed a lot of what I have read from various people here. Removing unwanted apps, turning off wifi/gps etc etc and although I've noticed some improvement it isn't really a lot to justify how much I paid for the phone compared to how much it needs to be charged.
I've read a few paragraphs of the rooting guide and a lot of other threads about something calle Gingerbreak. I'm very interested in 'rooting' my phone as many more users note a stark difference in performance and there's a lot of guff on the phone that I can't remove without it.
I'm not fully proficient in the ways of computing so I was wondering if someone could just highlight some threads and put them in a step by step. I see things like Titanium backup and superuser. Are they apps or things I need to install or do I pay for them?
Also is there a risk in destroying the device if I root it? I really don't want to be left with a lump of plastic I can't to anything with. I'd appreciate any and all input on offer, and would appreciate some patience, as I really am new to all this.
Thanks.

First things are:
1: search
2: read
3: search
4: read some more
Gingerbreak is what you will use to root your phone this grants super user status and install superuser, simply download it pop it on your memory card, download astro file manager from the market place (its free) navigate to gingerbreak and run it.
After you've done that download busybox installer from the market run it and let it do it's mojo. after this you can forget you ever did any of the above
It's pretty safe and shouldnt harm your phone, you can still restore to stock with this method if you choose to using Sony Ericson's restore software.
Once that is done you can use root uninstaller again free from the market to uninstall all the crap. be sure to check this thread
My battery wil last a couple of days with moderate use, but i hardly ever use it moderately unless im at work im mostly always on it.
Titanium backup (free and paid) is just an app from the market to allow backups and restore for when you flash your phone.
But and I have to stress this all this info is available on the forum you have to search and read on XDA i appreciate your new to all this but that's even more reason to read, read, read. your lucky we dont have many people yet here in the play section had this been the i9000 or nexus S forum you would be torn a new one for asking these questions... but while we are a small group I see no reason not to help each other.

To ad some, backup your sdcard as some has encountered a format of it under the rooting process and lost data. Further more some has had problems after a OTA update after rooting (afaik it's only people that have rooted with the unlock bootloader procedure), but some people bricked there devices while updating and afaik there's no fully working recover from that yet. Just to be safe check for updates before rooting, that's what I did, if any update do it and then turn auto search off in >settings>about phone>software update. Then go for root :-D
Regards Dousan...

Thank you.
waz000000 said:
First things are:
1: search
2: read
3: search
4: read some more
Gingerbreak is what you will use to root your phone this grants super user status and install superuser, simply download it pop it on your memory card, download astro file manager from the market place (its free) navigate to gingerbreak and run it.
After you've done that download busybox installer from the market run it and let it do it's mojo. after this you can forget you ever did any of the above
It's pretty safe and shouldnt harm your phone, you can still restore to stock with this method if you choose to using Sony Ericson's restore software.
Once that is done you can use root uninstaller again free from the market to uninstall all the crap. be sure to check this thread
My battery wil last a couple of days with moderate use, but i hardly ever use it moderately unless im at work im mostly always on it.
Titanium backup (free and paid) is just an app from the market to allow backups and restore for when you flash your phone.
But and I have to stress this all this info is available on the forum you have to search and read on XDA i appreciate your new to all this but that's even more reason to read, read, read. your lucky we dont have many people yet here in the play section had this been the i9000 or nexus S forum you would be torn a new one for asking these questions... but while we are a small group I see no reason not to help each other.
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Followed this to the letter, as well as the guide provided in the links and I think I'm OK. Have Superuser on the phone, installed uninstaller and removed a lot of what I didn't want, making sure to follow the list and thread for what not to remove. Just in the process of restoring the contents of my SD card that I backed up and hopefully the phone should run a lot smoother for a lot longer.
Are there any other advantages of rooting the phone? can it improve the performance of the emulators at all? I only ask as my son used the n64 emulator and he finds it hard to play a few games as they keep stuttering and we have to turn the music off.
If there is a thread I can keep note of that updates what features are available through rooting then I must have missed it. I did look this time. I even got the wife to double check. Last thing I need is a virtual dressing down

You've got two threads in this section about removing bloatware and what to do after rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046857
Regards Dousan...

hey guys!!! i just wanna say I followed the same instructions and eveyrthing worked perfectly! I've been a long time jailbreaker of everything apple and love android but for some reason was always iffy on rooting. You guys made it super easy so thanks a bunch!!!

I've noticed a vast improvement in the memory usage but the battery, not so much. If anything it seems to wear down faster. I placed it on charge up to 100%, then unplugged it with wifi and updates turned off, as well as having it on gsm and not 3G (or whatever it's called). I also don't have many widgets running and those that do don't use a lot of memory anyway.
I watched Spider-Man 3, which is roughly 2 hours long and within that time it had dropped to 92. Left it a while longer, about another hour and it's now at 88%. At this rate it'll be less than 24hrs before it's dead. Am I missing something??

12% gone after 3 hours & you watched a movie too ? That's pretty good going.
I don't know of many devices that you could watch in excess of 5 movies on a single charge.

DeadlyDazza said:
12% gone after 3 hours & you watched a movie too ? That's pretty good going.
I don't know of many devices that you could watch in excess of 5 movies on a single charge.
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I don't mean ON the device. I watched a film independently, while the phone sat idle on a shelf. So basically 12% in 3 hours after doing nothing.
EDIT 1day, 2hrs, 37min 8s the battery has lasted and has 37% left. Any good?

I've noticed there have been a few new firmware updates for the XPlay in the UK and as I;m still none the wiser about all this rooting business, and have just been getting by with rooting 2.3.2, I'm wondering how I got about continuing to root to the latest firmware?

Nifnodge said:
I've noticed there have been a few new firmware updates for the XPlay in the UK and as I;m still none the wiser about all this rooting business, and have just been getting by with rooting 2.3.2, I'm wondering how I got about continuing to root to the latest firmware?
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If OTA update is available (settings > about phone > software update) which it should be since you are on 2.3.2 you can do the ota and keep root on 2.3.3.
The OTA update will not work if you have uninstalled any of the preinstalled apps off your phone. If you have you will either have to reinstall them from here. Or reinstall 2.3.2 a fresh (to get everything back) then root then do the ota to get onto 2.3.3 rooted. You can find 2.3.2 to reflash here.
I personally freeze my apps instead of uninstalling them since i can then just unfreeze them and then do the ota if a new one is available. It does not free up internal memory (since they are still on the phone, but they will not run) it will free up ram tho so faster boot up etc. The same effect uninstalling them would do.
Also 2.3.3 is the latest update atm. The xloud update is not available on ota atm so you cannot root that one yet with a locked bootloader.

Nifnodge said:
EDIT 1day, 2hrs, 37min 8s the battery has lasted and has 37% left. Any good?
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I wouldn't have dreamt to have that battery life in my previous phone (Galaxy S).

I've uninstalled quite a lot of the stock apps so can I just reinstall 2.3.2 or do I have to put everything back on it first?
Sent from my R800i using xda premium

Nifnodge said:
I've uninstalled quite a lot of the stock apps so can I just reinstall 2.3.2 or do I have to put everything back on it first?
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
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If you reinstall 2.3.2 it will wipe your phone clean and take it back to stock (in other words reinstall everything again) you dont need to do anything before flashing just do it and everything will be back to when you first got the phone. You will loose everything on your phone apps, games e.t.c but stuff on your sd card will be fine.
But if you want rooted 2.3.3 you need to get the stock apps back and reflashing would be the easiest method.

Is it worth it? Am I missing anything if I don't upgrade?
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Nifnodge said:
Is it worth it? Am I missing anything if I don't upgrade?
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
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I noticed better battery life. Plus it seems better all round. IMHO i would upgrade. Plus with the ota method you still keep root.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/05/26/se-confirms-main-bug-fixes-from-android-2-3-3-update/
Sony Ericsson has confirmed some of the main changes from the new Android 2.3.3 firmware update that is currently rolling out to Xperia arc and Xperia PLAY handsets. Apart from the introduction of Facebook inside Xperia, there have been a number of bug fixes. Some of the most important of these are highlighted below:
Battery performance
General software stability
Wi-Fi stability
Touch responsiveness
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I've gone thru the stock apps list but i'm none the wiser as to what I have and what I got rid of. This is all Greek to me tbh and gingerbreak seemed so much simpler. I think I'll leave it for now despite your instructions i'm still confused and I don't want to be left with a 500 pound brick.
Sent from my R800i using xda premium

Nifnodge said:
I've gone thru the stock apps list but i'm none the wiser as to what I have and what I got rid of. This is all Greek to me tbh and gingerbreak seemed so much simpler. I think I'll leave it for now despite your instructions i'm still confused and I don't want to be left with a 500 pound brick.
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
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Unless you have an unlocked bootloader. It is impossible to brick your phone OTA updating.....

You cannot brick your phone when using flashtools to downgrade. Flashtools is the exact same as using SEUS/Pc Companion to update your phone. If your bootloader is locked (unless you have unlocked it, it will be) and anything goes wrong then you can use SEUS/Pc Companion to fully repair your phone.
Bricking only really applys to people who tired using SEUS, Pc Companion or OTA to update after unlocking their bootloaders.
When i got my xplay i was a total android newb also. But if you ever decide to give it a go follow the steps below.
Basically what you want to do is download FlashTool version 0.2.9.1 Beta from here extact it to a folder on your desktop. Run the "ggsetup-2.2.0.10" from within the drivers folder.
Then download the .184 UK firmware (which is 2.3.2) from here. Then go into the folder you extracted flashtools to and place the .ftf file from within the Xperia_Play_Release_Generic_UK.rar into the the firmware folder.
Turn off your phone. Now run the X10FlashTool.exe and it will load. Click flash then the firmware selection box will come up. Make sure "wipe user data box" is ticked then click ok. It will ask you to turn your phone off (which you have done), now while holding the back key plug in your usb cable and it will flash 2.3.2. When it starts flashing you can let go of the back key. When it is finished start your phone up and all the stuff you deleted will be back.
Now do as you did before put gingerbreak on your phone. Install it and let it root. Once it has rooted go to settings > about phone > software update and update it to 2.3.3 over wifi and you will be on 2.3.3 rooted. Job done

Mozza2k11 said:
You cannot brick your phone when using flashtools to downgrade. Flashtools is the exact same as using SEUS/Pc Companion to update your phone. If your bootloader is locked (unless you have unlocked it, it will be) and anything goes wrong then you can use SEUS/Pc Companion to fully repair your phone.
Bricking only really applys to people who tired using SEUS, Pc Companion or OTA to update after unlocking their bootloaders.
When i got my xplay i was a total android newb also. But if you ever decide to give it a go follow the steps below.
Basically what you want to do is download FlashTool version 0.2.9.1 Beta from here extact it to a folder on your desktop. Run the "ggsetup-2.2.0.10" from within the drivers folder.
Then download the .184 UK firmware (which is 2.3.2) from here. Then go into the folder you extracted flashtools to and place the .ftf file from within the Xperia_Play_Release_Generic_UK.rar into the the firmware folder.
Turn off your phone. Now run the X10FlashTool.exe and it will load. Click flash then the firmware selection box will come up. Make sure "wipe user data box" is ticked then click ok. It will ask you to turn your phone off (which you have done), now while holding the back key plug in your usb cable and it will flash 2.3.2. When it starts flashing you can let go of the back key. When it is finished start your phone up and all the stuff you deleted will be back.
Now do as you did before put gingerbreak on your phone. Install it and let it root. Once it has rooted go to settings > about phone > software update and update it to 2.3.3 over wifi and you will be on 2.3.3 rooted. Job done
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excellent !!!! great guide

[Q] Wildfire Temp Root

Hi,
I have a stock Wildfire which I'm perfectly happy with. However, over time I purchased a few apps from the market and would like to take a backup.
What can I do? My ideal would be a simple application with which to switch on/off root permissions before starting the backup process - read-only access to the system and data partition would be perfectly sufficient.
Is this possible? I read about Temp Root in the forums, but couldn't find a clear statement which way (if any) would work on the Wildfire. Also, is read-only root with access to all partitions even possible without flashing or do I need a custom ROM for this?
As I understand, another way would be to flash a new recovery image and use Nandroid backup. However, I'd rather avoid flashing anything.
I'd be glad if someone could give me a few pointers.

Get Visionary+. This app can do a temp root easily.
It's meant for Desire Z, but it still works. If you want permroot then use AlphaRevX instead, the method this app uses does not apply to Wildfire.
For backing up I would recommend Titanium Backup.
Why would you want to temproot anyway? You can use AlphaRevX to get S-OFF and flash custom ROMs.
If you want to do warranty return, just use a RUU tool. It clears everything back to factory state.

Just wondering why you want to backup the paid apps? Can't you just reinstall them when needed as your license is on your Google account right?
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YES, no need to backup the paid apps purchased from market.
Even after hard reset, if u use the same google market account to install those apps, ur licence should be back. Licence should be stored in your account AFAIK....

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If you want to do warranty return, just use a RUU tool. It clears everything back to factory state.
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A ruu doesn't reset the s-off state! The only way you can flash a new hboot is when it has a version higher the the 6.x hboot that alpharevx puts on your phone. It just like htc's hboot: you cannot downgrade it.
If you want s-on again, you need a tool from AlphaRev that does it for you. But I don't know if that is released yet.

bharatgaddameedi said:
YES, no need to backup the paid apps purchased from market.
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It is? Super, somehow it never occured to me that the purchase could be tied to the account instead of to the phone. Thanks for the hint!
That solves my immediate problem, I guess I can forgo a backup then.
What would happen if I entered the same googlemail-account into a new phone: Would the old one be deactivated then? One might want to use the same mail account on two or more phones. Would he then also get access to all of the applications on all phones, or would it simply not work at all?
Even after hard reset, if u use the same google market account to install those apps, ur licence should be back. Licence should be stored in your account AFAIK....
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I never entered a "google market account" ID, I guess my googlemail-account (which I created on setting up the phone for the first time) was used for that automatically. Or has such an account been automatically created for me without any further prompting?
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150d

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Get Visionary+. This app can do a temp root easily.
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Thanks, I'll remember that.
Why would you want to temproot anyway? You can use AlphaRevX to get S-OFF and flash custom ROMs.
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That's just it: the phone is working great, I'm really not missing anything. I wouldn't even know what to use root for. ;-)
On the other hand, I have a little experience with cooked ROMs from my previous phone, a WM-based Kaiser. Granted the two might not be directly comparable, but back then I had a lot of issues with stability, working-but-not-perfect bootloader, GPS sensitivity, radio ROMs...
I'd rather not take any chances now, at least not until I have a good reason to do so.
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150d

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On the other hand, I have a little experience with cooked ROMs from my previous phone, a WM-based Kaiser. Granted the two might not be directly comparable, but back then I had a lot of issues with stability, working-but-not-perfect bootloader, GPS sensitivity, radio ROMs...
I'd rather not take any chances now, at least not until I have a good reason to do so.
Regards,
150d
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And it always should be this way this wilfire forum is getting stalked by people who want root and new ROMs, but i'll bet that most of them will be satisfied with the stock one.
The only reason why you should root is to install usefull apps that requier root (like titanium backup) and to install new ROMs. Those roms provide updates that htc disable for us: gingerbread should be more powerfull and JIT, something that can make your phone two to three times faster, is disabled because sense can't handle it. But you are right: custom roms will never be bugg free. But on the other hand, the stock rom isn't bugg free as well
Altough I'm on the stock rom ATM, I will change if I have the time. "Basic" things like gps and stuff will work on most roms (unless reported otherwise), so you do not have to be afraid of that. The most problematic things can always be solved, but most of the time it requiers a lot of time untill you have figured out what exactly you should do to solve your problem. So do not try to change rom if you do not have the time for it.
To finalize this off topic statement: it is usefull to gain root: you can do much more with it than just "flash roms". But it absorbs a lot of time, and you shouldn't start with it if you do not have any. But when you commit yourself to it, you will gain a lot.
Erwin

150d said:
What would happen if I entered the same googlemail-account into a new phone: Would the old one be deactivated then? One might want to use the same mail account on two or more phones. Would he then also get access to all of the applications on all phones, or would it simply not work at all?
I never entered a "google market account" ID, I guess my googlemail-account (which I created on setting up the phone for the first time) was used for that automatically. Or has such an account been automatically created for me without any further prompting?
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150d
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Don't know about that thing. They shouldn't be discussed too anyway. But I strongly think that google knows the device identity of the market attached account.
Yes, google account / gmail account / maket account all are the same.
edit : And better not to speak about cooked roms untill u check them. There are many people pretty much satisfied with those.

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And it always should be this way this wilfire forum is getting stalked by people who want root and new ROMs, but i'll bet that most of them will be satisfied with the stock one.
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I saw a TV spot when the first iPad was released. They interviewed a guy waiting in line in front of an Apple store for why he wanted an iPad. He said: "I don't even know what it is, but I'm sure I need it!"
One can only wish for customers like that!
Those roms provide updates that htc disable for us: gingerbread should be more powerfull and JIT, something that can make your phone two to three times faster, is disabled because sense can't handle it.
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I didn't know that. Yes, sometimes I do wish it would be quicker to handle, I have a feeling that sometimes the CPU is maxed out so it can't handle the touch screen any more. But to me it's only a minor hassle.
To finalize this off topic statement: it is usefull to gain root: you can do much more with it than just "flash roms". But it absorbs a lot of time...
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I believe it, both of it. I've owned the phone for about half a year now and I'm still adjusting to how much more it can do for me than my old phone could. It goes beyond just having an application to do some job - it all is much more "usable" than before. But I can really, really not imagine what else I would like to do with the phone. Maybe there is something that I can't even think of now, but so far... ;-)
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150d