Got two Eris phones about three weeks ago.
I love it, but am getting borred with it.
I can swap the phone in for a different one up until Jan./15'th. It doesn'tlook like the Eris is going to get rooted, so I was wondering if I should switch to the Moto Droid since it can be rooted? Any one switched from the Eris, and if so, Is there anything that you miss about it?
Also, I still have my last phone, which is an Alltel HTC Touch. The original version of the first Touch, Not the Touch Pro. Can this phone be Rooted/Hacked or modified?
Sorry if these questions have already been asked, but I didn't have much luck with the search function. Thanx in advance for helping a noob.
Can the HTC Touch not be rooted/hacked?
Is this not the proper section to ask this in, or does no one else know the answer to this. Either???????
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Is this not the proper section to ask this in, or does no one else know the answer to this. Either???????
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Okay, I had to make an insurance claim on my EVO and I'm getting it tomorrow, what to do you guys think my odds are of getting a new Evo with stock 2.2 froyo already pre-loaded??!!??!
I really am hoping it still has 2.1 than I cant still root it and not have to loose root if I get stuck with stock 2.2... ugh!!!!
So what do you think what are my odds?
(A) HTC Evo Pre-load with stock 2.1?
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(B) HTC Evo Pre-loaded with stock Froyo 2.2?
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Okay, I had to make an insurance claim on my EVO and I'm getting it tomorrow, what to do you guys think my odds are of getting a new Evo with stock 2.2 froyo already pre-loaded??!!??!
I really am hoping it still has 2.1 than I cant still root it and not have to loose root if I get stuck with stock 2.2... ugh!!!!
So what do you think what are my odds?
(A) HTC Evo Pre-load with stock Froyo 2.2?
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I think by now they are coming with 2.2 unfortunately. However, always a chance.
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Not good...
Unless the the tech who put your refurbed EVO together was lazy I am pretty positive most if not all EVO's are coming with 2.2. Of course there is the chance.
Whenever someone comes into my local Sprint Store wanting WiFi Hotspot (root) and whatever else, the manager sends em my # to root their phone. I was getting a lot of calls until the past week. I think 2.1 is drying out fast.
I rooted a ladies phone this morning. She bought the phone on launch but had thought the update process would take too long so she kept pressing cancel. Then she decided she wanted root and called me. She was just lucky I guess.
But all the calls I get lately go something like "I just got a EVO with 2.2 can you root it for me?" Its getting old.
Whoever comes up with a 2.2 root is going to get a nice fat donation from me.
well my faith isnt very high lol, but I will say about a month or so a go a friend of mine got his HTC hero replaced thru Sprint care insurance that some of us pay $7 a month for, and we got the Hero with Android 1.5!! which I was a bit shocked about....
I think you have a 50/50 chance right now. I was talking to a tech at a Sprint Repair Store and he said all of the refurb'ed EVO's he has received have 2.1, they are told to do the OTA to 2.2 before giving it to a customer.
He said all the new EVO's are coming to him with 2.2 on already.
Since you are getting it from Assurion, who really knows if you'll get a new one or a refurb'ed.
ugh!!! 2.2 preinstalled
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ugh!!! 2.2 preinstalled
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That sucks dude
so is it just not physically possible yet, to downgrade to 2.1 or does sprint know of a way and there not telling us?
Hi guys, I've been apart of this forum for a short while, and i've been using an HTC Aria. I decided to finally upgrade and i'm getting a white HTC Evo tomorrow at a great deal $99.99 with a new contract from Sprint.
A member in my family has the black evo and told me that you must downgrade the white evo to 2.1 in order to root it to 2.2
I did some searching and it seems that it is not the case. I was wondering if I could get some feedback from members with the white evo and what the best method is to root that phone. If anyone could confirm as well that there should be no issue rooting a white evo.
Thanks for your time and I hope to be of service in this part of the forum in the future.
-Mike
Thats not the case at all. You can certainly root 2.2. And it has nothing to do with the phone being white or black, they are both exactly the same phone, just different paint.
You are likely to be on HBoot 2.02 or possibly even 2.10. This is the thread you want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
Read through it carefully before doing anything, it should have all the information you need.
You'll be on HBoot 2.02 and either HW 0003 or 0004. Sprint doesn't sell a lot of white EVOs, so they sit around longer. I know I got mine last week, and it was 0003. My replacement was a Nova screened 0004.
Picked my phone up this morning. It is running HW version 3.0 Going to search for the best root and rom, I want one with optimal battery life as i'm sure at least 90% of users who root their evos do!
I've had nothing but bad experiences with every HTC phone i've ever had. From the Touch Pro, to the TP2, to the incredible.
I sent my old INC in and got a new one because it would boot loop for no apparant reason, the only thing i could think of is the 2150maH battery but tried with the stock battery and same thing.
So the first replacement phone i never received because somehow fedex got the shipping address fine, except the wrong city and zip code and they said verizon would have to call and have it changed, which they did, but it never got delivered and returned to sender. so they sent me a 2nd replacement. I got that one. Activated it yesterday morning, and not 4 hours into it, its boot looping again. I've had to factory reset 3 times and activate it twice (not counting the initial activation)
ugh
User error? Ive had all 3, the dinc is the best overall. did you root it and install custom roms?
Refurb?
Was the replacement (or original) DInc refurbished? I've heard nothing good about refurbs.
Are you using an SD card from another device in the DInc? An old SD card?
Is the SD card full or nearly so?
Rooting w/ UnrEVOked?
The 2 DInc's in our family have none of the issues you listed, we have one each of the AMOLED and SLCD. Both have been extensively modified - ROMs, kernels, PRL's, etc etc. Both run the 2150 battery from VZW. Is your 2150 from elsewhere?
Subjective Opinion:
FWIW, the DX is severely limited in what can be modified since it's not fully rooted. Compared to the DInc, essentially all you can really do on the DX is theme variants of the stock ROM. Then there is the small, and seemingly dis-interested group of devs. There just aren't as many devs because there is so little you can actually truly develop for the device.
IDK anything about the Samsung, but a quick look @ the Fascinate forum here on XDA..... the number of ROMs or mods isn't anywhere near what there are for the DInc.
To be fair, the DInc community has the benefit of time and has a strong bench of interested developers, but browsing the Fascinate forum doesn't look so interesting as the DInc forum.
So, it really depends on what you want to do w/ your device - if you want to be able to modify it six ways from Sunday, it's the DInc, no question.
DX, not so much.
Fascinate - meh.
that's my $0.02
I had both the TP1 & TP2, used mightymike (from ppcgeeks) roms on both of them and the phones were amazing. The Inc is the best phone I have ever owned. I too am going to have to go with user error.
Are you stock or rooted? If you are rooted what have you installed? What kernel are you using? What type of screen is the refurb?
If you don't care to try and fix it, and you must have a different phone now, I would go with the Samsung. The DX is horrible, screen looks like crap, not fully rooted, etc... The Samsung is a bit better, but I don't think it is anywhere near as good as the Inc.
Verizon has a batch of crap Incs that they got back in as warranty phones and instead of actually fixing the problem (bootloop) they factory reset the damn things and set them back out broken. Its just a big cycle, it took me 3 Incs in a week to get one that actually worked. They offered the X and honestly I probably would've taken that over the Fascinate, neither phone has the developer support that the Inc has, and at least the X will be supported by the manufacture.
Wait a couple weeks and get the Thunderbolt. Just don't mess up your phone again and you won't have to bug Verizon for a replacement.
Agreed
I am on DINC 3 myself. The 'bad batch' would be the first batch of DINC's as they shipped with a faulty hardware radio. They would struggle so hard to get a signal, that the phone would superheat, and bootloop. That happened to my DINC 1.
DINC 2 shipped to me with an already blown speaker (I guess running 30 seconds of electronic diagnostics before shipping out a returned phone, doesn't test for that).
I have had DINC 3 since August, and while I think I may have a small power issue, it is fine.
I would not get the X. My wife has the Droid 2 and I just can't stand MotoBlur. Combine that with the relative difficulty of getting a custom ROM on the 2/X (you have to use a few market solutions to force one on), and you may as well pass on Motorola products.
I'll just tell you that I've had nothing but problems with my Droid 1 and 2. I went through 7 (I lost count) before they sent me the Droid 2. I had two replacements for the Droid 2 before they sent me the Incredible. My 3rd incredible is on the way tomorrow. In general I've had terrible luck with refurbs. The quality control is non existent. But if I had to give you advise on the X over the Samsung I would go with Samsung. Knowing how many problems I've had with Motorola phones I'd hesitate to ever own one again.
I got a refurb in November. AMOLED and works perfectly. My fault I needed to get it replaced, too.
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I got a refurb in November. AMOLED and works perfectly. My fault I needed to get it replaced, too.
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I hope I have your luck then. I don't care about the whole AMOLED vs LED deal. I just want a freakin phone that works correctly.
At first the fascinate was an okay phone and slow on developement and me being use to my d1 development amount got frustrated by the lack of it. Now however, I have to say with froyo being here and other ROMs at around 80% done with more on their way I'm beginning to love this phone like I should have in the first place. You honestly can't beat the internals on this phone right now with anything on the market and I highly recommended it over the DX due to the locked bootloader (and let's not even get into the screen/camera differences)
As always remember that any kind of post on here (including mine) is subject to bias and you should really just get the one that suits your needs best if you really want to even leave the dinc. Just my 2cents.
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if you constantly like to flash things, i would not recommend either, but just stick with the incredible and wait for something else.
I would wait as well. I've not had a lot of confidence in moto phones since my pos Moto Q (which I stall have and works if anyone wants to buy that junk lol). I've also seen the fascinate from a coworker, and while the screen looks nice, the rest doesn't seem to impress me.
Get yourself a free flip, cancel the data plan and wait a month or 3, take the money you saved from no data plan and get some newer nicer phone than all the rest of us on aa 1 year contract. Or get another Dinc, find someone on CL or something that wants to trade you for a samsung and a couple of bucks and swap or something.
A buddy of mine hates his Droid x. Don't know anything about the others
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Don't get either.
X sucks
Fascinate sucks and buggy and not well supported. Get the thunderbolt or wait for the LG or MOTO dual core phones. There might even be a dInc 2 coming soon.
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User error? Ive had all 3, the dinc is the best overall. did you root it and install custom roms?
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The first one I did, but it happened while stock as well as rooted, with any kernel/rom combination i tried.
the refurb i got was jewed out of the box. I highly doubt its user error as I didnt even do anything outside of activate it and add my google account before it started
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Was the replacement (or original) DInc refurbished? I've heard nothing good about refurbs.
Are you using an SD card from another device in the DInc? An old SD card?
Is the SD card full or nearly so?
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Yes, it was a refurb. thats all they will give me.
I've tried a number of SD's and even bought a brand new one. no change
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I had both the TP1 & TP2, used mightymike (from ppcgeeks) roms on both of them and the phones were amazing. The Inc is the best phone I have ever owned. I too am going to have to go with user error.
Are you stock or rooted? If you are rooted what have you installed? What kernel are you using? What type of screen is the refurb?
If you don't care to try and fix it, and you must have a different phone now, I would go with the Samsung. The DX is horrible, screen looks like crap, not fully rooted, etc... The Samsung is a bit better, but I don't think it is anywhere near as good as the Inc.
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See above, but there is absolutely zero way this is a user error and so many people are having problems. there is literally a 20 page topic on the VZW forums of people having this issue who are on their 7th and 8th dINCs
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I am on DINC 3 myself. The 'bad batch' would be the first batch of DINC's as they shipped with a faulty hardware radio. They would struggle so hard to get a signal, that the phone would superheat, and bootloop. That happened to my DINC 1.
DINC 2 shipped to me with an already blown speaker (I guess running 30 seconds of electronic diagnostics before shipping out a returned phone, doesn't test for that).
I have had DINC 3 since August, and while I think I may have a small power issue, it is fine.
I would not get the X. My wife has the Droid 2 and I just can't stand MotoBlur. Combine that with the relative difficulty of getting a custom ROM on the 2/X (you have to use a few market solutions to force one on), and you may as well pass on Motorola products.
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Yea mine was pre-ordered so it would definitely have been from the first batch
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if you constantly like to flash things, i would not recommend either, but just stick with the incredible and wait for something else.
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this phone is literally unusable. hopefully number 3 (4 actually, though i never received 2 to know if it would work) will be better.
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The first one I did, but it happened while stock as well as rooted, with any kernel/rom combination i tried.
the refurb i got was jewed out of the box. I highly doubt its user error as I didnt even do anything outside of activate it and add my google account before it started
Yes, it was a refurb. thats all they will give me.
I've tried a number of SD's and even bought a brand new one. no change
See above, but there is absolutely zero way this is a user error and so many people are having problems. there is literally a 20 page topic on the VZW forums of people having this issue who are on their 7th and 8th dINCs
Yea mine was pre-ordered so it would definitely have been from the first batch
this phone is literally unusable. hopefully number 3 (4 actually, though i never received 2 to know if it would work) will be better.
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Good luck man, I know how your feeling.
the refurb i got was jewed out of the box.
Wtf does that mean?
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I'll just tell you that I've had nothing but problems with my Droid 1 and 2. I went through 7 (I lost count) before they sent me the Droid 2. I had two replacements for the Droid 2 before they sent me the Incredible. My 3rd incredible is on the way tomorrow. In general I've had terrible luck with refurbs. The quality control is non existent. But if I had to give you advise on the X over the Samsung I would go with Samsung. Knowing how many problems I've had with Motorola phones I'd hesitate to ever own one again.
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Hmmm what's the common denominator here? 12 phones total over 3 models?
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the refurb i got was jewed out of the box.
Should watch what you say a little closer. No offense, I'm not anyone's dad, but that's crossing the line.
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My goal is to finish flashing((i added the ESN and have talk and text) my Droid Incredible to MetroPCS, however there seems to be a dearth of information for this device. I have found guides for the Droid, Droid X, Eris, Hero, Fascinate, and even the Evo. Yet, nothing for the Droid Incredible.
Instead of asking for a tutorial from you guys, (although that would be appreciated) I have a different question. Is the hardware/software on the Incredible more comparable to the Eris or the Evo? I am planning on using either one of the guides but I am pretty sure there are differences with each device.
Evo. The inc and Evo are very similar in many ways. To the point that we can actually run Evo Rom without too many changes.
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My goal is to finish flashing((i added the ESN and have talk and text) my Droid Incredible to MetroPCS, however there seems to be a dearth of information for this device. I have found guides for the Droid, Droid X, Eris, Hero, Fascinate, and even the Evo. Yet, nothing for the Droid Incredible.
Instead of asking for a tutorial from you guys, (although that would be appreciated) I have a different question. Is the hardware/software on the Incredible more comparable to the Eris or the Evo? I am planning on using either one of the guides but I am pretty sure there are differences with each device.
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I too wish there was some kinda guide for the dinc for metro pcs.. like what to do and what not to do as far as flashing new roms and such. lol
My god, this is frustrating...
I have tried both the Eris flashing instructions and the Evo flashing instructions, and nothing. In both cases, I can't even get the 1x icon up, nor can I get the APN settings to stick. I even copied the CMDA WS and QPST setting from a Metro HTC Hero, and yet nothing. Seeing as setting up the proxy didn't work, I guess I am having issues with writing PPConfig since I can make and recieve calls/SMS
Anyone out there with a flashed DInc, willing to share settings/help?
Could the fact that I am running 2.2 Android instead of 2.1 be an issue?
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My god, this is frustrating...
I have tried both the Eris flashing instructions and the Evo flashing instructions, and nothing. In both cases, I can't even get the 1x icon up, nor can I get the APN settings to stick. I even copied the CMDA WS and QPST setting from a Metro HTC Hero, and yet nothing. Seeing as setting up the proxy didn't work, I guess I am having issues with writing PPConfig since I can make and recieve calls/SMS
Anyone out there with a flashed DInc, willing to share settings/help?
Could the fact that I am running 2.2 Android instead of 2.1 be an issue?
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Google metropcs flashing solutions Droid incredible
The first thread that pops up is a complete guide to Droid incredible on metropcs
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