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Well, I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this. As you guys can imagine, FaceTime is going to be the new craze among iPhone 4 users. As much as I hate to say it, Apple will be the ones to make voice calling finally take off.
Qik is meh, and Skype video chat is still up in the air (no pun intended).
So that begs the question, would it be possible to make a device such as the Evo emulate FaceTime (with an iPhone 4 caller). Considering it's over WiFi, I don't see how it couldn't be possible.
They claim FaceTime is supposed to be an "open" standard, though I am a bit dubious to this considering H.264/AAC is involved.
Anyhow, all licensing and networking aside, I think we can agree that it is somewhat remotely possible and also really neat of an idea.
I know it's a bit early, but are there any teams talking about/working on this? I'm a developer (and learning the Android ropes at the moment) and would love to help contribute to something like this.
Comments, thoughts, and suggestions all welcome!
Yup, we'll see it eventually. As you said, FaceTime is an open standard and will probably be adopted on many different platforms. H.264 and AAC encoding's wont cause a problem, and will actually be beneficial due to it's compression versus quality ratio. Couple that together with the fact that the Evo already supports them out of the box, it's a no-brainer!
Eventually most likely all devices will connect somehow. This is a question though and would be more fit for the Q&A forum
The cool thing will be that we will likely be able to connect to FaceTime via 3G/4G and they will need Wifi because of Apple/ATT's control.
I would love to help out with this in any way I can, I can't do code but if you need graphics for the project, just pm me.
take it for what its worth, but Engadget did a test of facetime with mifi devices and the results were piss poor... we're probably better off using qik or some system that is designed for mobile networks.
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RTessi said:
take it for what its worth, but Engadget did a test of facetime with mifi devices and the results were piss poor... we're probably better off using qik or some system that is designed for mobile networks.
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Guess that explains why it's WiFi-only. Typical Crapple.
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Guess that explains why it's WiFi-only. Typical Crapple.
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id factor it up more towards at&t not wanting the iphone users (apparently bandwidth hogs) taking up anymore of their resources.
this isdump. we have fring and qik which already work over 3g and 4g were facetime is only working over wifi....and its not even performing well with that....so what im trying to understand is...what is it that you are you expecting?
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this isdump. we have fring and qik which already work over 3g and 4g were facetime is only working over wifi....and its not even performing well with that....so what im trying to understand is...what is it that you are you expecting?
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I agree with you.
I don't think we need someone on Android to implement FaceTime... I'd rather have Fring, Qik or Skype put 2-way chat on the iPhone 4. It's not like I'm going to be in a call with someone and be like, oh, lets switch over to video so we can see each other. I'm fine with using a dedicated client and I think most iPhone users would be too.
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I agree with you.
I don't think we need someone on Android to implement FaceTime... I'd rather have Fring, Qik or Skype put 2-way chat on the iPhone 4. It's not like I'm going to be in a call with someone and be like, oh, lets switch over to video so we can see each other. I'm fine with using a dedicated client and I think most iPhone users would be too.
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agreed, most of that stuff is just a gimmick, you use it once and then nada. I personally haven't used video chat on my phone since i got it.
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agreed, most of that stuff is just a gimmick, you use it once and then nada. I personally haven't used video chat on my phone since i got it.
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I agree somewhat. I've used it a couple times but the lack of quality makes it a gimmick. If it was higher quality and more people could connect, I would probably use it more and think it was less gimmicky.
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I agree somewhat. I've used it a couple times but the lack of quality makes it a gimmick. If it was higher quality and more people could connect, I would probably use it more and think it was less gimmicky.
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the quality is why I haven't used it, it's like i'm broadcasting from a portal into LEGO world
Yeah, so far video chatting from phone to phone is such a gimmick. However, I see some potential for video chatting from evo to computer. There isn't many video chat enabled phones out there but plenty of people with computers to video chat with. I just haven't found the right softwares for the phone and computer to use.
fring on evo connected with skype on computer is flawless, sound and video...if you have strong 3g/4g/wifi signal
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Yeah, so far video chatting from phone to phone is such a gimmick. However, I see some potential for video chatting from evo to computer. There isn't many video chat enabled phones out there but plenty of people with computers to video chat with. I just haven't found the right softwares for the phone and computer to use.
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ChatRoulette for Android Especially since they are working on an algorithm to filter out all the wangs
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ChatRoulette for Android Especially since they are working on an algorithm to filter out all the wangs
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your kiddin me hahahah filter out the wangs....thats hilarious.
Facetime application for Android
I switched from Apple to HTC EVO and I am very happy with HTC EVO. It is awesome. However if you look at the quality of video on face time it is amazing. The video and audio quality through Fring is no way comparable to facetime. Also people have connected using tethering through HTC EVO and connected two iphones with facetime. Excellent quality over 3G through HTC EVO. Summary, it will be nice to have an application like factime... Thanks
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Guess that explains why it's WiFi-only. Typical Crapple.
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Is crap typical from Apple?
never really used facetime :/
Anyone able to get the netflix app off the LG Revolution?
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Ohh, I want it too!
Hopefully this means we will be getting it soon (hacked or official). Apparently, you can have up to 6 devices linked to one Netflix account. So I will be able to watch using my wife's Netflix account.
Please oh please oh please!
I hope soon, I've been waiting fooorrreverrrr for this!
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That's a quick way to reach your alloted 5gb of 4g data!
yeah, sucks having to tether to an ipod touch to get your netflix content while away from a Wi Fi source. Might be the only reason why I haven't sold my ipod actually, the netflix app.
I would be happy with just a Netflix app that solely provides the opportunity to search for movies and manage your queues, not for watching movies on the G2 (although that would be sweet).
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I would be happy with just a Netflix app that solely provides the opportunity to search for movies and manage your queues, not for watching movies on the G2 (although that would be sweet).
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Umm, they already have that.
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Umm, they already have that.
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Care to share which one is actually worth using? I've tried a couple and they're not really good. I'm looking for one designed by Netflix, not some 3rd party developer.
as far as i know android hasnt received love from netflix due to security and piracy concerns. Dated November 13th (short article BTW)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/13/netflix-headed-to-select-android-devices-early-next-year/#
androinica claims they have seen the Netflix app on an LG Revolution. But where can I get it for my G2?
I've about had it with Netflix and their crappy movie line up anyways. They charge you $8.99 a month (which is fair) but then they offer so few good available and the others are dvd only. Then they "fix" this issue by charging you more dvds out at a time to make up for it. Its just about screwing over folks and milking them for the $20, 30, or 40 plan. I wish they would just upload all digital streaming and offer dvd to those old fashioned folks who actually want it. Plus, their reasoning for not offering their app on android is ludicious.... I hope something better comes along soon
Damn peoples. You gotta be patient. How are people going to pull and share the Netflix app when they just figured it out recently that one exists for Android. I mean don't get me wrong, I want the app as much as the next person but its not going to magically appear. Let the Android community do its magic. I don't even think people even got to mess with the phone yet let alone the Netflix app.
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I've about had it with Netflix and their crappy movie line up anyways. They charge you $8.99 a month (which is fair) but then they offer so few good available and the others are dvd only. Then they "fix" this issue by charging you more dvds out at a time to make up for it. Its just about screwing over folks and milking them for the $20, 30, or 40 plan. I wish they would just upload all digital streaming and offer dvd to those old fashioned folks who actually want it. Plus, their reasoning for not offering their app on android is ludicious.... I hope something better comes along soon
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I was under the impression that one of the main reason Netflix has not come to Android is because of the backbone of Netflix streaming, which is M$ Silverlight
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I've about had it with Netflix and their crappy movie line up anyways. They charge you $8.99 a month (which is fair) but then they offer so few good available and the others are dvd only. Then they "fix" this issue by charging you more dvds out at a time to make up for it. Its just about screwing over folks and milking them for the $20, 30, or 40 plan. I wish they would just upload all digital streaming and offer dvd to those old fashioned folks who actually want it. Plus, their reasoning for not offering their app on android is ludicious.... I hope something better comes along soon
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Its not netflix - its pressure from hollywood and the studio execs for both the lack of streaming titles and the android app/"drm" concerns. And let's not forget that apple has their tentacles deep in hollywood cuz of their involvement with pixar and apple tv (jobs was the ceo of pixar).
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Yeah, that sounds about right about the lack of complete library streams. Other the other matter, I'm sure ports will be on the way. The only issue I foresee is linking the account to the device if its ported. Might be a pain to get the port properly to avoid that issue...
I'd greatly appreciate a netflix app for my g2. I'm jealous of the iphones netflix app. -__-
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You mean, like QueueMan for Netflix??
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Its not netflix - its pressure from hollywood and the studio execs for both the lack of streaming titles and the android app/"drm" concerns. And let's not forget that apple has their tentacles deep in hollywood cuz of their involvement with pixar and apple tv (jobs was the ceo of pixar).
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I am personally inclined to believe it has more to do with Apple's influence/blackmail than the pirating issue. It seems far fetched that someone would resort to a phone stream to pirate movies or shows.
I posted this in the Q&A section and it got a couple of hits the quickly got buried. I was wonder if an app existed or could be developed that would allow you when recording to pause and restat a video without you having to start a whole new video.
I thought about this when my wife was using her evo to record our daughters basketball game and she kept having to stop and start new videos to conserve card space when it would have been easier to pause and resume recording.
I know this could go in the Q&A section but I figured if a developer saw this and had some time or was looking for a new project this would be a good one I think.
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hope you got thick skin
It would be easier to just concatenate the two videos when you need to rather than rewriting the whole camera stack just for that one purpose.
And wrong forum.
I hate to sound rude, but this is a cell phone. It shouldnt be used like a real camera to record your family's important things. If you want a camcorder that will stop and start without making a new clip, you will need a real handheld camcorder. There aren't any apps as far as I know that can do this.
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LMAOOOOO i just understood why u said this about 30 seconds after reading this
if it's a relatively new phone, you can have your wife return it and get the Epic.
My wife has the Epic and it allows you to pause the video and resume without splitting.
Also, the video quality is far, far superior to the Evo. it boarders on Flip quality.
So that's something you can do.
Ok, i get what some people mean by using a dedicated camera for recording but she as well as i both have evo's and we carry those everywhere vs the awh i wish i had a camera moment.
The next thing is that the evo can and does record high quality videos (hdmi out) so why not have an app that makes it act live a regular video camera?
Its too late to swap them out for epic, and i prefer the evo to the epic.
I know there are several phones thst can do it so its not impossible
I know its only about 5 post deep already but i explained why i put this here vs as well as the q&a section.
The evo video quality is far better than flip quality. Come on people really do some of you just sit and wait for an idea to get posted to shoot it down i mean really is that all you guys have in life? If so im happy to give you a reason not to kill yourself.
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I hate to sound rude, but this is a cell phone. It shouldnt be used like a real camera to record your family's important things. If you want a camcorder that will stop and start without making a new clip, you will need a real handheld camcorder. There aren't any apps as far as I know that can do this.
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If the EVO was just a cell phone then I would say you have a point. But the EVO is not built to be just a cell phone, its a smartphone and even saying that is degrading what it do. I had an old 2mp kodak camera a while back which had a small card in it. now you have the EVO with an 8mp camera and a 8gb card and you say don't take pictures. Same thing with the camcorder. If I buy a device worth 400/500 dollars it better be able to do something other than just take cell phone calls. So if dude wants to record rare moments of life that only can be caught if you have a device like this handy, then I say let him. Its not his fault a 3min 5min video is like 2gb. That is where the problem lies, files shouldnt be like that especially if its just a cell phone.
I would like to start watching some movies on my note 2. I don't want to download them to my device. I was thinking of using drop box and a program which puts dvds as a file. It takes a rather long time and I would rather not want to do this every time. Is there a website or something that allows you to Stream your own movies for free?
most movies nowadays come with ultraviolet copies. if your dvds don't then try setting your computer up as an ftp server and host them yourself
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most movies nowadays come with ultraviolet copies. if your dvds don't then try setting your computer up as an ftp server and host them yourself
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How do you set up and do the ftp server thing?
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How do you set up and do the ftp server thing?
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if you were trying to "share" movies over your own home network, like watch movies that were on a home computer in another room, that would be easy. Stupid easy. Set your folder with movies as "shared" over the network, use something like BubbleUPnP player, or even XBMC for Android (quite a bit more complicated to set up, but Way Worth it, once you set up the library and shares) to browse and watch. (with XBMC, I woiuld set it up on the host sys, set up the libraries and metadata there for sharing over the network.)
if you are trying to "share" movies over the internet (from your home, I assume?), for you to watch when you were out at another location, well that's a hobby unto itself, and outside the scope of what you could expect here at XDA. Learning how to set up a "real" server (FTP, SMB/CIFS), takes time and (at least self-) education. People get paid to do that kind of stuff, right? Worth learning, if you have the time. But I don't have the time to even teach you the basics. There are no basics.
Not to mention most likely your bandwidth upstream from home, on most IPSs, is not very great. I wouldn't want to stream anything but standard definition vid files, And it might "kill" the internet use for anyone at home.
But for fun, here are some basic solutions and/or information for you to explore, get started. If you start to play around with networking, you'll quickly become a "computer genius" to family n friends. :
http://lifehacker.com/5919558/turn-...p-streaming-or-torrenting-machine-with-ubuntu
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/how-i-set-home-file-server-free-review-freenas.htm (FreeNAS is one of my faves)
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9659/how-to-install-and-setup-windows-home-server/ (WHS is another fave, even though they dont "make" it anymore, it can still be found, and is a stupid easy way to "get started" in servers if you're comfortable in the Windows environment, I always recommend it to anyone that doesn't want to get into command line *nix kinda stuff, just wants to play around with a functional and easy way to have a server, works great, and completely instantly compatible, obviously, with any Win based PCs at home.)
http://lifehacker.com/5821512/use-plex-to-stream-your-media-from-home-to-your-phone-anywhere-you-go (found this randomly, seems .. idk.)
Good Luck!
I use Remote Media Center from the play store. In conjuction with remote potato server app running on your home computer to serve your media. RMC will utilize MX player to handle the video playback on your phone. (Install MX player). I've been using this setup for almost a year no problem. I've got tons of video and pictures, music I don't need to carry with me.
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elniper said:
I use Remote Media Center from the play store. In conjuction with remote potato server app running on your home computer to serve your media. RMC will utilize MX player to handle the video playback on your phone. (Install MX player). I've been using this setup for almost a year no problem. I've got tons of video and pictures, music I don't need to carry with me.
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Huh. I should have guessed there would be new apps for this.
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Huh. I should have guessed there would be new apps for this.
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Yea.... Remote Media Center is the only one that's free with the most features.There are a couple others that you have to purchase the app and or server too, that are more polished.
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Our phones come with everything you need to do this already. I use this all the time. This video explains it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RJjDUe-NH0
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Nice, works for me!
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You fellas dont know it huu -_- the BEST APP there is is this one . Ajd and its awesome true hd movies all for FREE!!!! new movies aswell. Hit thehttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hd.peliculashdpro3 thanks button
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I downloaded this after seeing your post and have watched every new movie from 2012 I'd wanted to see but wouldn't pay $20 to go sit in a theater full of morons crunching popcorn, slurping soda, texting, talking and making my night miserable what a waste. I haven't been to a theater in 2 year's or so cause of that crap. Price is too high to go watch a movie that you miss half of from the rude idiots acting like they're sitting on their own couch and didnt just pay a small fortune to be there. I can't quite figure out why the prices have gotten so high its not like the theaters have gotten any nicer or more private. I could see a price increase if they weren't packing 200+ people in a 150'x150' room im seats where you're practically sitting on each others lap.
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I downloaded this after seeing your post and have watched every new movie from 2012 I'd wanted to see but wouldn't pay $20 to go sit in a theater full of morons crunching popcorn, slurping soda, texting, talking and making my night miserable what a waste. I haven't been to a theater in 2 year's or so cause of that crap. Price is too high to go watch a movie that you miss half of from the rude idiots acting like they're sitting on their own couch and didnt just pay a small fortune to be there. I can't quite figure out why the prices have gotten so high its not like the theaters have gotten any nicer or more private. I could see a price increase if they weren't packing 200+ people in a 150'x150' room im seats where you're practically sitting on each others lap.
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Iphone will NEVER have an app where you can watch free full length hd movies hahha
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I downloaded this after seeing your post and have watched every new movie from 2012 I'd wanted to see but wouldn't pay $20 to go sit in a theater full of morons crunching popcorn, slurping soda, texting, talking and making my night miserable what a waste. I haven't been to a theater in 2 year's or so cause of that crap. Price is too high to go watch a movie that you miss half of from the rude idiots acting like they're sitting on their own couch and didnt just pay a small fortune to be there. I can't quite figure out why the prices have gotten so high its not like the theaters have gotten any nicer or more private. I could see a price increase if they weren't packing 200+ people in a 150'x150' room im seats where you're practically sitting on each others lap.
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it's basic economics. wherein a business is not considered successful unless there is measurable Growth in profits to show to investors every year. (ie: "how can we squeeze more money from our customers while bringing production costs down/delivering less, and do it better than last year?") theaters have become the worst experience you can have for $15, hands down.
if it wasn't for IMAX, i wouldn't go to theaters at all. even then, at home i've got excellent surround sound, 55" screen. and i get to take pee breaks. and i make way better snacks than Regal. (you haven't lived until you've had my open-faced chopped steak and provolone sandwich)
and people wonder why i'm a verified, unrepentant, and proud pirate. over 700 movies in my collection, and counting. (not to mention TV seasons... and hundreds of thousands of songs...) that's why I maintain a robust server in my basement. any bit of my media collection is accessible by any terminal in the house.
call me a hypocrite if you like, but i never pirate software. and verbally slam those that do. *shrug*
Why would they have an app that allows for not so legal activity in the play store?
Questions like this is why they get pulled........ shhhhhh
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Its internet connection is blocked by AdBlock and after I opened it it placed another app shortcut on my homescreen "Aplicaciones". No thank you. Looks fishy. Uninstalled.
Worked fine for me with adblock and no shortcut created. Checked out with several phone and pc based av progs too.
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Its internet connection is blocked by AdBlock and after I opened it it placed another app shortcut on my homescreen "Aplicaciones". No thank you. Looks fishy. Uninstalled.
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I can confirm this. Looks cool but push notificatons on my notificatin bar. Unistalled.
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I can confirm this. Looks cool but push notificatons on my notificatin bar. Unistalled.
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That's what airblocker is for :thumbup:
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Ive had my Note 2 now for 3 weeks and I absolutely love it. from the Amazing low light Camera to one of the best Music players on any phone in the business, however, Im finding that Im ending up just using it like my Galaxy S3 or older S2, txting, phoning, wifi and play store, yet i know its capable of so much more. I tried the 184 page pdf manual, but what a joke that is.. theyve built an amazing device with the S Pen usable in every app, yet theyve wasted sections of the manual on how to just turn on/off Flipboard, Maps, Google Earth, Music Player, send a txt or activate wifi.. Really Samsung..
Ive looked on YouTube, yet videos on tips and tricks are scattered around and tend to repeat the same things alot..
So, is there a good website that teaches/explains about how to get into the deeper side of this beast and really use it.. such as S Pen and what it can do in apps, drawings, paintings, diaries and workbooks, how to use it properly
Using the Media player over the web and the HDMI/USB through TV and setting it up..
The deeper side of the camera and video player, great apps and editors and how the device really works.
It seems a shame to spend all that money and then just use it like a SGS2.
I found this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Samsung-...&qid=1368029215&sr=1-1&keywords=galaxy+note+2
But do i need that or is there a good web resource out there
Thanks
Just go around open random apps and try out the settings.. you can probably figure out quite a lot of functions through that you might find useful.
To be honest there isn't much difference between note 2 and s3 other than the fact that the screen is bigger and you get s pen. So the point is to utilise the pen!
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Smart dock? Otherwise, it is still just a phone at the end of the day. Albeit a badass phone.
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Just go around open random apps and try out the settings.. you can probably figure out quite a lot of functions through that you might find useful.
To be honest there isn't much difference between note 2 and s3 other than the fact that the screen is bigger and you get s pen. So the point is to utilise the pen!
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I dunno I think its a better media device than the S3, to me the camera and video are much more detailed, especially in low light and has more features and lens apature, also the music player through my Sennheiser mx phones is alot more natural and less bass-y.
But thanks though, going through the S Pen settings has helped learn abit more, im a bit of a perfectionist and dont like thinking im not using its potential .
But i thought ide share this, in case anyone is feeling like me:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lucidmike78
Also..
Star Dock looks interesting, ill explore that.. but never used it before.
Thanks
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I dunno I think its a better media device than the S3, to me the camera and video are much more detailed, especially in low light and has more features and lens apature, also the music player through my Sennheiser mx phones is alot more natural and less bass-y.
But thanks though, going through the S Pen settings has helped learn abit more, im a bit of a perfectionist and dont like thinking im not using its potential .
But i thought ide share this, in case anyone is feeling like me:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lucidmike78
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Star Dock looks interesting, ill explore that.. but never used it before.
Thanks
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yes, i agree...was gonna recommend you watch this guys uploaded video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/Lucidmike78/featured), but you already did, that's good, it also helps me a lot as a new SGN2 user, just subscribe & download any useful tips you might need
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yes, i agree...was gonna recommend you watch this guys uploaded video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/Lucidmike78/featured), but you already did, that's good, it also helps me a lot as a new SGN2 user, just subscribe & download any useful tips you might need
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Thanks for the tip, appreciated, theres loads of sites around the web, but theyre all spread out. Hope your enjoying your Note 2 as well. Its a great device.
Let me know if you find any other resources and ill do like wise