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Hello all. I'm not new to Android or rooting. I had a Hero for a year and have flashed many roms and numerous other customizations. Also not being a noob to XDA I've been doing my research on rooting my new toy the Evo. I was confident about rooting my Hero because it seemed damn near impossible to brick. However, it seems as though this isn't the case with the Evo, or at least not with 4g. I want to root in the worst way but am fearful of permanently loosing 4g, which brings me to a few questions. But before I get there here's what I've learned through much research.
First, Amon Ra 1.80 backs up wimax.img but it's also necessary to double check that it's done properly as some have had problems with faulty md5sums. Things such as the MAC info can be restored and is available on the box or behind the battery. It's also essential to make sure that nandroid back-ups, or, at least the one containing a wimax.img is stored in multiple secure locations (I always do this with nandroids anyway). Second, if you don't have your original wimax.img which contains your RSA keys you're screwed and have to get a new Evo, which brings me to some questions.
I just upgraded to the Evo a few days ago and have all of the newest updates so is it safe to say that if I root I don't have to worry about messing with the radio/wimax for some time and can just flash roms? Are the radio and wimax radio two different things and if so how can I flash upgrades without worrying about loosing my RSA keys? What is the safest way to upgrade anything other than the roms? In other words if a new radio comes out is it best to un-root and officially upgrade everything and then re-root? Finally, because I can't seem to establish an exact answer to this:is there a such thing as totally un-rooting the Evo? By this I mean, if I follow the steps listed in some of the threads on here for un-rooting does that make everything 100% factory.
I'm paranoid about rooting also because I've switched to Best Buy's service plan which has its pluses and minuses. If I were to root and loose 4g somehow and had to take it back, I'm not sure of how much of a pain in the ass they are in comparison to Sprint. My understanding with the Hero was that it could be totally restored to factory condition by running an official RUU but I can't tell if it's the same with the Evo.
Lol, if you've managed to read all of this, you're probably thinking that I'm so paranoid that I shouldn't root and maybe you're right. However, I liked all of the root abilities I had with my Hero but didn't have the same potential consequences. Can the same be said of the Evo? Should I just wait until there's more development in solving RSA key problems?
Just go for it. Those people who are having RSA key issues have updated their radios through flashing. (I used the same tequnique but never lost my keys...no one knows what's going on yet). Go for it. You will never regret it =).
it's very simple. also squaretrade is the best deal for warranties
unrevoked + unrevoked forever, then you don't have to worry about messing up with 4g as it only flashes recovery and sets S-OFF, no changes to the stock rom or 4g.
Dont be afraid
I root evo's all the time. Some for friends, some for friends of friends who pay me a little $. The point is, I have rooted dozens of EVO's using the latest Unrevoked method. I use a MAC so I don't need to install any drivers (makes it easier).
You WONT have any problems as long as you have not flashed anything crazy to your phone (radio, wimax, etc)>
The worst that will happen is the unrevoked program will say "sorry, we did not get root, but thats normal, please try again."
Sometimes it takes 3 times and then bang you have root.
Also, I have unrooted my phone and its easy as pie.
Don't stress.
If you want some help, I can G-chat you through the whole process or help if you get stuck.
Just PM me if you want help.
To be honest all u have to do is read up on it. Google jonamerica.com(how to root)Trust me I jus rooted less than a week ago so I guess I am considered as a newbie. All in all I have my Evo running like Kentucky Derby Pro. Just gotta look past the fear that u have. If you follow those instructions correctly everything should go great. Check out other forums about rooting to confirm the steps in the link I posted for you. More than likely using unrevoked 3 nothing could go wrong. Ounce the phone is finally rooted, that's where all precaution comes into play. But there's nothing that a (nandroid backup) can't fix. Read up on that also. GOOD LUCK!!!
r0cky.Da.3v0.SU
You seem like a cautious person ... I am as well. There are lots of really bright people developing for the Evo, occasionally they push the envelope. That's ok with me, because their creativity is what makes all the good stuff available. With that said, the Sprint/HTC stock offering isn't too bad, but if you're like most of us ... it quickly won't be enough for you.
Go ahead and root ... just use good sense, and don't assume that everything that gets posted is ok ... sometimes, it takes a little time for things to shake out. For instance, I still haven't jumped to the new PRI and Wimax radio. Some have had great results ... some have been not so good. I expect to update ... but in the meantime, still enjoying all the benefits of some great custom work. Go for it ... you'll be ok.
And by the way u don't lose 4g ounce rooted. Certain ROMs that u flash don't have a 4g fix. So jus make sure u know what ur flashing.
r0cky.Da.3v0.SU
Thanks all!!
Wow! I wasn't expecting so many responses. Rather than multi-quote everyone who posted I just want to say thanks to all of you!!! I haven't rooted yet but will get there. I'm still doing a little more research before I take the plunge.
Hypothetically, if a new Wimax radio comes out how can it be installed safely, is it best to unroot and officially upgrade then re-root? What have you guys been doing when upgrading the radios, since it seems best to not just flash them.
In the past, I've always just flashed the new radio over the rom. With the new radio that has had some problems ... it's not the process ... it's that it's not the official release. With this kind of stuff, patience is a virtue.
I was teribbly afraid too. I put 2 weeks of research before rooting. The first time I did it I messed up, but then the second time it worked. You will not lose 4g unless you are using CM6.
Get a radio that's very compatible with your rom. It will be safe to flash jus hip cache and dalvik cache and u should be fine. Male sure to nandroid backup before doing so.
r0cky.Da.3v0.SU
aerajan said:
Wow! I wasn't expecting so many responses. Rather than multi-quote everyone who posted I just want to say thanks to all of you!!! I haven't rooted yet but will get there. I'm still doing a little more research before I take the plunge.
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I'm with you. I just purchased my new Evo on Oct 1st and it came preinstalled with OS v2.2.
I rooted my previous Hero just days after the first exploit was found and it was quite easy. The Evo rooting and rom installing process looks much different however and I'll need to continue researching this one a bit longer.
I'm not a fan of one-click root methods and would much rather stick with good ol' adb commands, so I think I'm going to wait until a new command line method comes out that works specifically with 2.2. I read about the one method so far that works with 2.2, but I'd rather not downgrade anything.
Current phone info:
OS 2.2
Build 3.26.651.6
PRI 1.71_003
PRL 60671
I have a feeling that you'll search and research for a good long while, then, like a kid on Christmas eve who just can't wait and has to shake the presents, you'll root. Then... Happiness!
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OP - I'm in the same boat as you. I really only want to root for WiFi tethering, but then I found out that PDAnet and EasyTether allow cable tethering, with PDAnet also offering tethering over Bluetooth. So as of right now I'm still a bit undecided, but am still trying to read up on all the available options.
My advice to you (as I was burned by a bad Unrevoked patch), is wait a few days to apply things that mess with your radio. This will sort out the bugs and whatnot.
The Unrevoked team didn't test a patch properly and they killed 4g for a lot of people.
Hey guys,
I just got my replacement phone yesterday and wanted to root, my old launch phone was rooted using toast method. I want to be fully rooted with nand unlock. Is the "how to root Android 2.2" on the development forum the best way to do this? If not what it? Thanks in advance guys.
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search for the Unrevoked, "One Click root"
I used the unrevoked method but as always follow it to a t. And make sure you get the s-on zip just in case you need to get another replacement
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I rooted my evo today using unrevoked. It was very simple and quick. Perfect for someone new to Android and rooting such as myself.
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I rooted my EVO today using the unrEVOked3 one click method....and I'm guessing it's rooted. I tried on "several" occasions to use the shootme app when not rooted and it did not work, however it does now.
On the flip side....I can not tether, as it says I do not have root accsess. Also holding down the volume button and power button, it goes into the white screen and when I hit fastboot it "I'm guessing" scans and comes back saying 'no image found' a bunch of times and returns to the main menu.
When I tried to hit the "recovery" button it went to a blackscreen and showed a picture of my phone with an exclamation point over it. No buttons did anything....pulled the battery and all was well again.
So I went back to the unrEVOked (as I am assuming I have no recovery image on my phone - and I tried to put on on the root of my card and see if fastboot would find it....it did the same scan "no image found" and I wasn't going to try to go into recovery again, lol)...so I went back to UnrEVOked and tried that all over again with the phone pluged it, it found my phone and said pushing recovery 'clockworkmod' and then all of a sudden - failed....terminating push.
I did that twice and I now have no idea how to get a recovery onto my phone.
Could it possibly be that I am rooted and not NAND? How can one tell if they are not NAND (I have no superuser icon)
If anyone has had this issue or is way more experience in this unrevoked one click root thing.....I would much appreciate the help
I recommend against unrevoked because it seems like more problems or steps are needed to get it running smoothly.
Use this guide paired with simple root.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...34-how-rooting-htc-evo-froyo-2-2-windows.html
Worked like a charm on my replacement evo.
Thanks man....you have answered a question that has been going around in my head for a little while now. There is no way to root 2.2 yet....one has to root from 2.1 and use rooted 2.2 ROMS.
Well it's good to know that there "IS" a way to revert to 2.1 should I want to root that badly....now that I know I have to go back to eclair, I'm not so sure I want to root.....I love 2.2 Froyo!!!
Thanks, I'll keep doing more research as to if it's worth it....and or if someone has found a way to root 2.2 altogether
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Thanks man....you have answered a question that has been going around in my head for a little while now. There is no way to root 2.2 yet....one has to root from 2.1 and use rooted 2.2 ROMS.
Well it's good to know that there "IS" a way to revert to 2.1 should I want to root that badly....now that I know I have to go back to eclair, I'm not so sure I want to root.....I love 2.2 Froyo!!!
Thanks, I'll keep doing more research as to if it's worth it....and or if someone has found a way to root 2.2 altogether
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Once you downgrade to 2.1 you can root with the 2.1 simpleroot. Then you can flash any rooted Froyo ROM you want. You do not stay at 2.1, unless you flash a 2.1 ROM.
i cannot speak for the unrevoked forever as i have not implemented it and do not plan to.
the unrevoked team has been known to put out a couple products that perhaps were not as fully tested as they should have been. but then again, this is a dev site...it's all use at ur own risk. that being said, unrevoked3 has been out for a while and seems to be ok. i have used it to root phones for friends.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
or if someone has found a way to root 2.2 altogether
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There is a way to root 2.2, it's called Unrevoked. The latest version 3.21 works great. I used it to root 3 EVOs and had no problems at all. It takes 5 minutes.
So i rooted with Unrevoked3 the other day.. Note that im a noob with android. Ive only had my Evo for 2weeks. It was easier than i thought. Im running Myns warm two point two rom and ive customized launcher pro plus, its awesome. So my question is... am i fully rooted now? Cause i was told to download and install Unrevoked Forever after i used Unrevoked3???
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So i rooted with Unrevoked3 the other day.. Note that im a noob with android. Ive only had my Evo for 2weeks. It was easier than i thought. Im running Myns warm two point two rom and ive customized launcher pro plus, its awesome. So my question is... am i fully rooted now? Cause i was told to download and install Unrevoked Forever after i used Unrevoked3???
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yes. you have full root + NAND is unlocked. as per unrevoked3
you do not need to run the UnrevokedForever. i have not and do not see myself running it. if more of the devs whom i have technical respect for start recommending it, then perhaps.
you only really need if 1) you a dev and are playing around with some new update for some reason or 2) ur impatient
for example...there is a new update hitting shelves. folks that are impatient will want to load up the latest and greatest...and will often loose root. rather than wait for Myn to release their updated ROM. personally, i would suggest just waiting for Myn to update.
until you have a better feel for how things work. stick with the 'name brand' Rooted ROMs. they will be updated pretty quick. you can see how many posts some of them have...might be a good indicator of activity.
enjoy you new device.
don't forget
- ALWAYS read the first post all the way thru
- to copy a nandroid over to your computer once in a while. (sux if you have a nandroid from yesterday..but your phone is lost or card melted)
- backup your launcherpro settings
- something like smsbackup+ may be helpful
- titantium backup. the paid version is very much worth it if you plan to play with your build a lot. faster and easier by and far. (look into making the update.zip from within titanium as a backup option)
They have not updated there root tool to crack the new HBOOT 2.02. Are they done with the EVO and moving on to other newer devices? I have a few friends that just got EVO's and they cant root them now because of the HBOOT version they have. Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Josh
Im sure they are working for an easy new root method patience man should be up soon
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forget unrevoked, use this method...it works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
Ditto the above recommendation.
... worked for me.
Im just glad i rooted my phone just in time w toast method before this fiascal blows up.. Sorry peeps. Wish everyone Luck!
Sent from my phone.. I think using EViO???
That's weird... Unrevoked couldn't root my phone but I used their Unrevoked forever to do the NAND unlock... I have the 2.02 HBOOT...
yeah, i rooted 2.1 style, i keep kicking myself for not rooting my wife's phone at the time and then leaving it alone, now i don't know what way to go, as i never trusted the GUI methods
luckylui said:
Im just glad i rooted my phone just in time w toast method before this fiascal blows up.. Sorry peeps. Wish everyone Luck!
Sent from my phone.. I think using EViO???
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xlGmanlx said:
yeah, i rooted 2.1 style, i keep kicking myself for not rooting my wife's phone at the time and then leaving it alone, now i don't know what way to go, as i never trusted the GUI methods
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Why dont you like the GUI Method? It seems to be the safest hands down. Less steps = less problems. Unless unrevoked does something i dont know about, but its worked flawless for me the last 10 times i used it. Did it the old toast way 3 or 4 times, i prefer the ease of unrevoked... not that it was hard the other way. Definitely doesn't require being kicked though lol
when i was trying to root under 2.1 version, the GUI methods didn't work, and i jacked some **** up too. i had to go all the way back with a RUU. Plus using manual method gets you used to ADB/Fastboot commands etc. If a lot more people started out that way, lot less simple questions probably wouldn't get asked. Nothing against that team, just my personal preference, when you do GUI, you don't get all the principles behind what your doing, so you just expect everything to work.
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Why dont you like the GUI Method? It seems to be the safest hands down. Less steps = less problems. Unless unrevoked does something i dont know about, but its worked flawless for me the last 10 times i used it. Did it the old toast way 3 or 4 times, i prefer the ease of unrevoked... not that it was hard the other way. Definitely doesn't require being kicked though lol
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wrong forum
Useless post
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wrong forum
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xlGmanlx said:
when i was trying to root under 2.1 version, the GUI methods didn't work, and i jacked some **** up too. i had to go all the way back with a RUU. Plus using manual method gets you used to ADB/Fastboot commands etc. If a lot more people started out that way, lot less simple questions probably wouldn't get asked. Nothing against that team, just my personal preference, when you do GUI, you don't get all the principles behind what your doing, so you just expect everything to work.
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I must admit I am happy as hell as well that I got my phone when I did.... I rooted with Simple Root and have not looked back since. I rooted my phone with Unrevoked 3.21 and honestly it was the easiest thing I ever did. All you do is click a button and flawless...
I wish these new guys luck as well, oh well off to flash Caulkins 1.6
I'm totally new to Android and Rooting. But I just got my EVO 10/10 and rooted it with Unrevoked last night and installed FreshRom a few minutes ago. I had all the latest updates. Am I missing something?
KB112 said:
I'm totally new to Android and Rooting. But I just got my EVO 10/10 and rooted it with Unrevoked last night and installed FreshRom a few minutes ago. I had all the latest updates. Am I missing something?
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What HBOOT version do you have? Is it below 2.02? That would be the reason unrevoked worked for you.
I loaded the recovery screen and it said HBOOT was 0.94.0000 Does that sound right? I just did everything I saw in a How To video. Downloaded necessary drivers etc and then did everything in order. Worked just fine. Mine didn't exactly look like the walkthrough though. It didn't say Android 1 on my Device Manager it said Android phone and to update the drivers I had to expand the Android Phone selection. Just a few minor things, otherwise it all went smooth.
I have never rooted my phones (HTC Hero now HTC EVO) but after I the update on my phone, it added Blockbuster and Nova to my phone and I can't delete either. And Nova is not even the full game, its a limited version and asks me to buy the full one.
So I would like to root my phone if possible to remove this bloatware crap.
Do I have any options via a one click method that will allow me to root and do this with a permanent root effect?
Thanks,
Whiteice
no one clicks. look in the dev forum for the fly like a kite method though. easy enough.
UnrEVOked is releasing their new version for hboot 2.02 versions very soon.
heh and we just got the new 2.10 hboot. are they compatible? probably not. if htc is going to take the time to update, it is going to have some new features.
Ack! I didn't know that updated the HBOOT too.... *grumbles about accepting update*
Unrevoked 3.21 is not working for the evo's latest release. Gotta hold tight untill some one can root this build
Looks like unrevoked has version 3.22 out. Any word on that?
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Looks like unrevoked has version 3.22 out. Any word on that?
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3.22 has been out for a few weeks. It only fixed things for the incredible, not the evo.
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I have never rooted my phones (HTC Hero now HTC EVO) but after I the update on my phone, it added Blockbuster and Nova to my phone and I can't delete either. And Nova is not even the full game, its a limited version and asks me to buy the full one.
So I would like to root my phone if possible to remove this bloatware crap.
Do I have any options via a one click method that will allow me to root and do this with a permanent root effect?
Thanks,
Whiteice
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Me too. Sprint is getting to high on them selfs...
not a one click root but many including myself have confirmed this to work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
Man I feel so lame and old now..I used to be able to hack all sorts of phones when I was younger..I havent done it in a while now. I have a EVO 4G and I want to root and add the 2.3 ROM but I don't even know where to start..all this kernal and clockwork etc etc is so confusing to me x_x
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Man I feel so lame and old now..I used to be able to hack all sorts of phones when I was younger..I havent done it in a while now. I have a EVO 4G and I want to root and add the 2.3 ROM but I don't even know where to start..all this kernal and clockwork etc etc is so confusing to me x_x
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i second that im coming from a iphone and i was sick at jalibreaking and unlocking iphones even repairing them but android is like German cars their confusing to do work on them
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i second that im coming from a iphone and i was sick at jalibreaking and unlocking iphones even repairing them but android is like German cars their confusing to do work on them
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^Seriously...I've been trying to find a quick root guide, but the quick root guides are not so quick lol. In order to know what you are doing, you have to do so much research to know what the heck they are talking about. I used to do customer ROMs and crap all the time with my Touch Pro 2 Windows mobile phone, it was SOOO much easier. And this is coming from a Sprint Service Tech, I've been messing with phones for quite awhile...
Personally, i just started all this root & mod stuff recently. Its interesting but very time consuming. Like you said the method may be quick but we have to do an hr's worth of reaseach to make it make sense 1st....
**Headache.....i know**
Again, i am offering a step by step walkthrough. Macs too in case those pc methods have you stumped. People deserve root! Heh. No but seriously, I will help...
Hi i have a mac with HTC evo 3.70 need root please help
I need some help in how to root HTC EVO please someone that did it , i dont want to brick my phone is the first time i am doing this. I have search in the internet but almost everything is in PC and not on a mac
i second that also i need to know how to root android 3.70 there has to be an easier way to do it than doing it the old fashion long way, help! thanks in advance!
I HAVE A THEORY THAT REQUIRES NO ADB WHATSOEVER AND I NEED TESTERS! pm or email me and i will tell you what i plan. it is as simple as using rom manager to pull a fast one on z4root then using unrevoked forever. PLEASE HELP MY CAUSE...
Have no fear guys...the new Unrevoked should be out soon. The developers have been updating their twitter page daily...and their updates look promising
www.twitter.com/unrevoked
This new update is said to work with software version 3.30 as well as the new OTA 3.70.
I'm also too chicken to try the multi-step method so I'm just patiently waiting for the new Unrevoked to be released
I'm right up there with you. Successfully rooted my hero (adb) although I'm still not sure what I was doing. I'm still trying to get all the clockwork, RA recovery stuff clear in my head, and now I'm trying to root my new evo with 3.70 ota. The new headache begins!
I got an EVO and within 6 hours it was completely bricked. Thankfully i got a brand spanking new one the next day and i dont want to mess up again. I did unrevoked last time and that worked fine, but when i tried to flash a rom it didnt agree. Im looking to get full root and NOT with unrevoked. I did some research and saw a way to push a file in the standard EVO recovery, but those posts were from april-may 2010. I didnt know if there was a more updated method anyone could help me out with.
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I got an EVO and within 6 hours it was completely bricked. Thankfully i got a brand spanking new one the next day and i dont want to mess up again. I did unrevoked last time and that worked fine, but when i tried to flash a rom it didnt agree. Im looking to get full root and NOT with unrevoked. I did some research and saw a way to push a file in the standard EVO recovery, but those posts were from april-may 2010. I didnt know if there was a more updated method anyone could help me out with.
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Read this entire set of instructions.... unrEVOked does work great.... hope this helps...
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies.html
The best thing you can do when rooting or flashing a new rom is read. And then read a little more. Unrevoked is about the easiest method, and most problems don't stem from just rooting. Same with flashing a rom. There are certain steps involved and missing one can have dire effects That being said, most times the issues can be resolved pretty easily.
mutant posted a great guide! Brush up on flashing and there should really be minimal issues. There are some great roms coming out. Most are super stable!
In my family we have 4 evo's and I rooted all of them with unrevoked with no problems and were all running the Myns Warm TwoPointTwo Roms. Its pretty hard to brick a Android device and if you achieve this feat there's a way to bring it back. All I can say is make sure that you read all the instructions and make sure you have the HBoot drives and you should be good to go. Based on all the other methods of Rooting Unrevoked is by far the easiest method hands down.
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The link in my sig is probably my favorite. It is complicated but easier than you think and works every time.
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My first question is how the hell did you "BRICK" your Evo? They are almost impervious to bricking. I have tried to brick mine and it has always been savable.
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My first question is how the hell did you "BRICK" your Evo? They are almost impervious to bricking. I have tried to brick mine and it has always been savable.
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Have you tried flashing a GSM radio on it? Try to save it then.
My first question is how the hell did you "BRICK" your Evo? They are almost impervious to bricking. I have tried to brick mine and it has always been savable.
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I'm guessing it wasn't actually "bricked". I would venture to say that some people run into issues that they don't have the knowledge to get out of and its just easier to get a new phone. I don't know if they have deep pockets and buy new or somehow pull off unrooting or what...