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[ROM] i9000T stock rom

This is the Stock firmware for the i9000T
GT-I9000T
Baseband Version2.1 update1
Kernel Version 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build ECLAIR.UBJI1
PDA: I9000TUBJI1
PHONE: I9000TUBJH1
CSC:I9000TUUBJI1
The RAR contains:-
ODIN
PIT
PDA
MODEM
CSC
open odin
make sure RE-Partition is selected
select the pit file
put phone in downloader and plug in
click start wait till it comes up with pass!
unplug phone
reset odin
un select re-partition
select PDA,PHONE,CSC.
take battery out of phone then go back into downloader and plug in.
click start wait till PASS! comes up this can even happen after phone is fully booted just wait.
I take no responsible for anything that happens.
Dropbox
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10713337/i9000t.rar
Media Fire
http://www.mediafire.com/?7wgu37wek6vybia

Dropbox is up again.
Remember the thanks button ;-)

Is this eclair or froyo?

Thanks man!!!
I wished I was the first, but in fact, Many thanks...

Once you flash can you let us know the version and I'll add it to the first post.
oalf170892 said:
I wished I was the first, but in fact, Many thanks...
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iammodo said:
This is the Stock firmware for the i9000T
The RAR contains:-
ODIN
PIT
PDA
MODEM
CSC
open odin
make sure RE-Partition is selected
select the pit file
put phone in downloader and plug in
click start wait till it comes up with pass!
unplug phone
reset odin
un select re-partition
select PDA,PHONE,CSC.
take battery out of phone then go back into downloader and plug in.
click start wait till PASS! comes up this can even happen after phone is fully booted just wait.
I take no responsible for anything that happens.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10713337/i9000t.rar
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Many thanks! loaded and running, could not be more straight forward.
GT-I9000T
Baseband Version2.1 update1
Kernel Version 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build ECLAIR.UBJI1
PDA: I9000TUBJI1
PHONE: I9000TUBJH1
CSC:I9000TUUBJI1
Again many thanks.....

As soon as I notice an update released I will post that to.

many thanks for this for some reason my base-band disapeard ?? and im going back to the standard rom. how is Blackpool !!! i now live in New Zealand but what i read on the Evening Gazettes web page makes it look a really bad place to live now, i am not saying it was ever good as i grew up on the Mereside estate, on Langdale rd to be precise.
anyway once again many thanks for the rom, and its good to see a fellow black publican on here, take care and the very best of regards....
dave

If you lose you lose the baseband it didn't flash correctly give it a second shot.
I've had it a few times of different galaxy s when the baseband doesn't show.
Blackpool is same as ever not sure its ever going to be a great place to live. I've only been here 6months don't plan on staying forever.
Sent from my NCC-74656!

iammodo said:
If you lose you lose the baseband it didn't flash correctly give it a second shot.
I've had it a few times of different galaxy s when the baseband doesn't show.
Blackpool is same as ever not sure its ever going to be a great place to live. I've only been here 6months don't plan on staying forever.
Sent from my NCC-74656!
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If you loose Baseband, flash only the modem, no pit, no re-partition.

Hi Ragin
thanks for the advice on the modem file, i will do a search on how to do this as i am not to sure if i have to use Odin or it has to be flashed back onto my phone.
once again many thanks and the very best of regards, also many thanks to iammodo for starting this thread or i would of still been sat there looking at my phone not knowing what to do..
regards to all
dave

if it says version 2.1 ujpdate 1 it is eclar.. froyo is 2.2 or 2.2.1

mobile mouse said:
Hi Ragin
thanks for the advice on the modem file, i will do a search on how to do this as i am not to sure if i have to use Odin or it has to be flashed back onto my phone.
once again many thanks and the very best of regards, also many thanks to iammodo for starting this thread or i would of still been sat there looking at my phone not knowing what to do..
regards to all
dave
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Do it via Odin
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Hello Iammodo, I´m follow the steps, and I´m waiting a long time to finish the first step:
"open odin
make sure RE-Partition is selected
select the pit file
put phone in downloader and plug in
click start wait till it comes up with pass!"
It is normal? I´m starting to stay a little affraid...I´m waiting at least 30 minutes...

30mins is way to long.
Un plug phone.
Take battery out
Close Odin
Open Odin
Select re partition and pit
Then put phone in downloader and plug back into the computer
Sent from my NCC-74656!

Holy cow!!! iammodo you are the BEST!!! just this morning i had a problem with my phone and i was looking and looking for the original i9000T rom. YOU ARE FULLY AWESOME!!! Thank you so much!

sfms said:
Holy cow!!! iammodo you are the BEST!!! just this morning i had a problem with my phone and i was looking and looking for the original i9000T rom. YOU ARE FULLY AWESOME!!! Thank you so much!
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Happy to do samsungs job lol
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Why Flash the "Pit" and then flash only "PDA,PHONE,CSC" ?
Btw thx for the stock ! =)

gioffon said:
Why Flash the "Pit" and then flash only "PDA,PHONE,CSC" ?
Btw thx for the stock ! =)
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from what I ca gather the PIT file maps out the update and is needed for a full flash.
In my samsung manual it tells me to do them separately on all phones that use odin.
never tried doing all at once though.

Is this update safe for an Network locked SGS. I have just get it and i don't know if this is going to get ride of the Network locked issue.

[DEV] midNIGHT ROM (Need some advice)

I currently develop the midNIGHT ROM for the Epic 4g. I just acquired a Sprint Galaxy Tab...Do we have any progress on developing on the Sprint Tab. I know the GSM and CDMA Tab are kinda mixed together. I just need to root and go from there. Any advice?

ptfdmedic said:
I currently develop the midNIGHT ROM for the Epic 4g. I just acquired a Sprint Galaxy Tab...Do we have any progress on developing on the Sprint Tab. I know the GSM and CDMA Tab are kinda mixed together. I just need to root and go from there. Any advice?
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You can root CDMA Tabs same as you can root other Tabs. There are recovery kernels for VZW from Koush and you could recompile your own Sprint kernel and make one for Sprint too.
I think someone released deodexed ROM for Sprint with little mods a while ago.
There is a lot of modding for GSM Tabs because there is a ton of leaked GSM ROMs while CDMA guys are pretty much stuck with stock one.

Dameon's CWM3 one click works but I don't know anything about kernels and for CWM3 as you know... Needs EXT4. The VZN will not work at all. noobnl has a redirect for CWM2.5 like he did on the epic, but it doesn't work right.
This is what you need if you mess things up. ODIN. DO NOT FLASH THE MODEM!
I use root explore for everything else. Don't be in download mode unless your batt has a good charge, it can go fast and it doesn't charge via USB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10061034&postcount=96
I thought you where out of the game?

a454nova said:
Dameon's CWM3 one click works but I don't know anything about kernels and for CWM3 as you know... Needs EXT4. The VZN will not work at all. noobnl has a redirect for CWM2.5 like he did on the epic, but it doesn't work right.
This is what you need if you mess things up. ODIN. DO NOT FLASH THE MODEM!
I use root explore for everything else. Don't be in download mode unless your batt has a good charge, it can go fast and it doesn't charge via USB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10061034&postcount=96
I thought you where out of the game?
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I'm a bit nervous doing anything to the tab at this point. I have it as a way for my youngest to communicate so I don't want to kill it. Howver, I have been reading and it seems that I can odin back to stock now (minus the modem). I also have a PM into dameon to get his thoughts on his clockwork port working on the tab.
As far as being out of the game, I'm still hanging on. The ROM is still kickin....I would just love to get an UPDATE.zip for this damn thing. I don't have acces to a linux box so working with the tar is tough....
Basically I can odin the ROM you showed me (without the modem) and gain a deoxed system and root. Correct. That is pretty safe as far as I'm concerned. Am I correct in my understanding?
Thanks again for your help.

tried wubi? http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer

[Q] bricked phone and broken odin

please help me, im in big doodoo... i dropped my old epic in the snow a couple of days ago and lost it. just got my brand new 100$ replacement one and decided to head straight for eb13. i ended up with cwm3.whathaveyou and then from there i ended up converting to ext4 it seems. i made the mistake of trying to reboot with the odexed stock eb13 rom. which started this downward spiral of an increasingly less functional paper weight. basically now i cant even get to cwm or stock recovery. i cant do anything except start download mode... which i assume is the only way to fix it now, however everytime i start to flash a stock update such as dg27, dk28 or eb13 they keep getting stuck. eb13 got stuck on the "boot.bin" and dg27 is currently stuck on param.lfs
i know that my own ignorance has gotten me into this mess not reading throughly, but i was hoping some of you not so ignorant geniuses could help me out of this mess. any advice on how to get odin to finish its work would be greatly appreciated.

Wrong section.
To answer your question though. You should go to the stock DI18 per the instructions on the wiki.

okay. how and where do i move it?

It should go in either Q&A or General. This is for ROM and Kernal development only. You can't move it unless you delete it and make a new thread. An admin will have to move it.

please dont make any new topics in this section. this goes in q & a. pls read rules

okay sorry. how do i delete my post?

six_and_out said:
please help me, im in big doodoo... i dropped my old epic in the snow a couple of days ago and lost it. just got my brand new 100$ replacement one and decided to head straight for eb13. i ended up with cwm3.whathaveyou and then from there i ended up converting to ext4 it seems. i made the mistake of trying to reboot with the odexed stock eb13 rom. which started this downward spiral of an increasingly less functional paper weight. basically now i cant even get to cwm or stock recovery. i cant do anything except start download mode... which i assume is the only way to fix it now, however everytime i start to flash a stock update such as dg27, dk28 or eb13 they keep getting stuck. eb13 got stuck on the "boot.bin" and dg27 is currently stuck on param.lfs
i know that my own ignorance has gotten me into this mess not reading throughly, but i was hoping some of you not so ignorant geniuses could help me out of this mess. any advice on how to get odin to finish its work would be greatly appreciated.
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i Was where you are two days ago heres what you can do
Make sure you cant boot into any kind of recovery.
Call sprint technical they will try to reset it for you while you're talking to them on the phone act stupid but say you were trying to upgrade to froyo with samsungs exe.
they will reset it and it shouldn't be able to get pass the samsung boot then delete everything off of your sd card.
take it into your local sprint store they will fix it for free but remember tell them you were upgrading to froyo with SAMSUNG's Software not odin.

six_and_out said:
please help me, im in big doodoo... i dropped my old epic in the snow a couple of days ago and lost it. just got my brand new 100$ replacement one and decided to head straight for eb13. i ended up with cwm3.whathaveyou and then from there i ended up converting to ext4 it seems. i made the mistake of trying to reboot with the odexed stock eb13 rom. which started this downward spiral of an increasingly less functional paper weight. basically now i cant even get to cwm or stock recovery. i cant do anything except start download mode... which i assume is the only way to fix it now, however everytime i start to flash a stock update such as dg27, dk28 or eb13 they keep getting stuck. eb13 got stuck on the "boot.bin" and dg27 is currently stuck on param.lfs
i know that my own ignorance has gotten me into this mess not reading throughly, but i was hoping some of you not so ignorant geniuses could help me out of this mess. any advice on how to get odin to finish its work would be greatly appreciated.
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What u can try to do is uninstall odin and re install it that might help u. Also make sure u put the tar file under PDA section and retry. Hope that works for u. I would say flash back to di18 first then see if u can get th ota
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Also if youre on EXT4 and using odin i think youre supposed to have repartition checked....that might help

Try flashing with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209
Use the second link: Stock EB13 Deodexed EXT4 + CW 3.0.0.6
edit: piggy-backing on iSaint's post, yes click re-partition for this flash. When I flashed, I actually had all 3 checked (repartition, reset time and auto reboot).

running_the_dream said:
Try flashing with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209
Use the second link: Stock EB13 Deodexed EXT4 + CW 3.0.0.6
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He said he cant get into stock or cwm recovery..

Thread moved to Q&A.

i tried that already. it keeps getting stuck at boot.bin
also thanks mod for moving.

iSaint said:
He said he cant get into stock or cwm recovery..
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The link is for a Odin flash, not cwm. It will flash EB13 kernel and modem, preroot and install cwm3

running_the_dream said:
The link is for a Odin flash, not cwm. It will flash EB13 kernel and modem, preroot and install cwm3
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My bad lol i heard flash -_-

Try using heimdall. It seems much more reliable. You should be able to fine it here or on google.
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repartition????? never read that, but will look into it.. ext4 has been really touchy for me, but finally got it working I think...
Sent from my 286 with DOS

I say grab the Samsung Phone Flash tool and go stock EB13 and then try again. CWM/EXT4 and EB13 stock kernel don't play together. You need a modded kernel.

Solved
Thank you all. Especially Isaint. I tried every ones suggestions and just ended up taking it into sporting and they have me my phone back and updated to eb13 within 20 minutes. Thank you guys all again for saving my life.

six_and_out said:
Thank you all. Especially Isaint. I tried every ones suggestions and just ended up taking it into sporting and they have me my phone back and updated to eb13 within 20 minutes. Thank you guys all again for saving my life.
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Glad everything worked out bro

[Q] phone keeps offering ef10 to ef02 update

my phone keeps offering me the ef02 to ef10 modem update regardless of the version my phone is on. I odined my phone back to eb13 without the sd card in (after clicking the reformat tab in odin) and it still offered the update. what gives?

contradude said:
my phone keeps offering me the ef02 to ef10 modem update regardless of the version my phone is on. I odined my phone back to eb13 without the sd card in (after clicking the reformat tab in odin) and it still offered the update. what gives?
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I used Titanium to freeze system update to stop that. There is a command to run from SU but not sure what it is. I saw it in another post but couldn't find it.

tazfanatic said:
I used Titanium to freeze system update to stop that. There is a command to run from SU but not sure what it is. I saw it in another post but couldn't find it.
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Download terminal emulator, then type
su
disable pm com.samsung

I tried this disable command through a shell and it gave me an unknown command error. Is that the right syntax?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

contradude said:
I tried this disable command through a shell and it gave me an unknown command error. Is that the right syntax?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
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Not quite. It's:
Code:
su
pm disable com.samsung
I made a small thread about it with a shortcut patch.

As a heads up, I freeze all the services listed in RandomKing's thread with Titanium and it really helps with battery life. Highly recommend you freeze them with an external tool or apply his patch through CWM.

Same issue being spoke of in several threads. Perhaps an error on sprint's end.

SCORPiON5150 said:
Same issue being spoke of in several threads. Perhaps an error on sprint's end.
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I feel a little less like an idiot then, thanks for all the info guys

RandomKing said:
Not quite. It's:
Code:
su
pm disable com.samsung
I made a small thread about it with a shortcut patch.
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Flashed your script from that thread! worked perfect! Thanks!

is there another possible way to do this on a unroot stock rom :?

To get rid of the message on ec05 (syndicate fro 1.2) at least i just installed it and then re flashed the ee03 modem (any modem will work) through odin. Haven't seen the update screen since! P.S this works because all the update does is update the modem!
And since odin and flashing are involved i feel the need to add this:
I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or the current economic crisis. Please do some research if you have any concerns about odin or this process before doing this! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
Sorry for the big font its an attention grabber!
How to flash a modem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V6rASKU23Q&feature=channel_video_title

You need to hit cancel the first time it checks after a reboot.
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flimsy888 said:
To get rid of the message on ec05 (syndicate fro 1.2) at least i just installed it and then re flashed the ee03 modem (any modem will work) through odin. Haven't seen the update screen since! P.S this works because all the update does is update the modem!
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did this on unrooted stock device but i did a battery pull after the galaxy S bootscreen poped up and then went into download mode and odin'd my EC05 modem and it worked. no more update notifications. :]

lys3rgic said:
did this on unrooted stock device but i did a battery pull after the galaxy S bootscreen poped up and then went into download mode and odin'd my EC05 modem and it worked. no more update notifications. :]
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No Prob don't forget to hit thanks!

Hey I'm running chris41g's EF02 Plus rom, and obviously its asking me to upgrade. Is EF10 any good or should I just stick with EF02

Cant go back to Stock
i Have been trying to unroot my Epic back to DG27 But i wont get sprints updates at all. Im still getting the EF10. please help.

xm1337 said:
Hey I'm running chris41g's EF02 Plus rom, and obviously its asking me to upgrade. Is EF10 any good or should I just stick with EF02
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I personally think EE03 is the best!
How to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V6rASKU23Q&feature=channel_video_title

I had previously been running the EF02 leak with EF10 modem, but I decided to go back to Froyo (EC05). but now every time I reboot my phone I get the whole EF10 to EF02 firmware upgrade. I have tried every suggestion in this thread and none of them has worked. Does anyone have any other ideas other than freezing the service? I would like to get rid of this without that.

did u try flashing the EE03 modem?

flimsy888 said:
did u try flashing the EE03 modem?
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I have tired flashing the EE03 modem and the EC05 modem multiple times for each. Nothing works, I have tired every single persons "fix" in this thread and others and none of them work for me. I ended up just freezing the service but I'm worried that this behavior is somehow tied to my account, and that it will screw up future things.

Sleep issue - calls, txts

Hey guys, I know there are maybe a couple of threads on this but didn't know what exactly to search, but every since I rooted my phone.. When ever the phone is sleep, I missed alot of important calls.. And receive texts when i wake phone, I had no knowledge of this bug before rooting... Just wondering if there's some type of work around..
Thanks

Did you flash your modem in Odin by chance? Go to Settings > About phone ... what is your Baseband version?

My baseband is EG12, but i dont recall flashing my modem.. I'm completely sure I didnt

eg12 is known to have this issue, I have this issue along with MANY MANY MANY others... this phone has too many issues, i have to restart my phone 5+ times a day because it wont receive/send texts and phone calls, freaking lame!
bluefire118 said:
My baseband is EG12, but i dont recall flashing my modem.. I'm completely sure I didnt
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I read on another forum that there is a radio EG30 that supposedly fixes this issue.. I also don't recall experiencing this before root, but i know most of us flashed from a .tar to gain root.. So is it safe to say that them tars have flashed our modem to... Or maybe alter something that render these problems

I didn't think it was possible to flash your modem, unless you check the MODEM box in Odin, click the MODEM button and flash a file to it. This should not have happened to you if you used the PDA box like you should have to root your phone.
So you either goofed using Odin or somehow there's a way to flash your modem while flashing a rooted kernel. What exact steps did you take and what kernel did you use to root your phone?

I follow the exact steps found in qbking77 video to rooting.. Which yu can see here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=614igPj7MkU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

bluefire118 said:
I follow the exact steps found in qbking77 video to rooting.. Which yu can see here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=614igPj7MkU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Did you flash the PIT file like qbking does in the video, but not see the video comments added that says NOT to flash the PIT file?

Yes I seen that, but I didn't flash the pit file, I only flashed the tar file..

bluefire118 said:
Yes I seen that, but I didn't flash the pit file, I only flashed the tar file..
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Then sorry man I'm at a loss. If you flashed that TAR under PDA in Odin, then it should not have touched your baseband. Unless there's something in that TAR that flashes the modem. I didn't think that was possible though.
Well anyhoo .. update your Profile and PRL and see if it keeps happening. Doing this could fix the no calls/texts issue for you. Good luck!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312790
here ya go.

bluefire118 said:
Hey guys, I know there are maybe a couple of threads on this but didn't know what exactly to search, but every since I rooted my phone.. When ever the phone is sleep, I missed alot of important calls.. And receive texts when i wake phone, I had no knowledge of this bug before rooting... Just wondering if there's some type of work around..
Thanks
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I have/had the same problem, what I did I restored my entire system using a tar file that unrooted and flashed everything back how I initially got the phone. I pretty much started from scratch again and rooted again and did my thing. I still haave baseband eg12 but i was able to update profile and my prl. As of 10 hours of doing so i have not had the same problem YET. I would give it a shot, just might help.
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mjcollum said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312790
here ya go.
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Yeah that data collection you're doing is great mjcollum. Still doesn't explain how this guy ended up with EG12 though.

don't know about flashing from a .tar but one of the older kernels
i want to say it was one of the zedomax ones but don't hold me to that. would flash eg12 if installed from a zip in cwm. i'll take a peek and see what i can see.
you could try extracting the tar you used to flash to get root and seing if there is a modem.bin in it though.
the only modem.bin available is the eg12 one so if there is one thats where it came from.

I tried that bro.. No luck at all.. Is there like a stock tar that I can flash that could fix this?

currently there is no way to get eg30 back.
however there are some things you can do to help the situation.
check out the thread i posted a few minutes ago ...
the biggest things i have found to make a difference are
make sure your not underclocked.
try a few different kernels.
failing that i've seen some success depending on rom/kernel combo it doesn't seem to be any one kernel that works for everyone with this problem.
i'm currently running starburst 1.8 with the exp kernel that comes with it and as long as i don't underclock the min cpu it's fine.
some of my tests show the stock eg-30 filesystem and kernel seem to work well also.
some would say it's not an eg12 modem issue but then again i have only one report of it happening on eg30 and even then it didnt happen every time.
the stock kernel is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273647 you may try that first
and a completely stock filesystem with kernel is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282420
erp one more thing remember to update prl and profile then reboot after flashing. seems to make a large difference

mjcollum said:
currently there is no way to get eg30 back.
however there are some things you can do to help the situation.
check out the thread i posted a few minutes ago ...
the biggest things i have found to make a difference are
make sure your not underclocked.
try a few different kernels.
failing that i've seen some success depending on rom/kernel combo it doesn't seem to be any one kernel that works for everyone with this problem.
i'm currently running starburst 1.8 with the exp kernel that comes with it and as long as i don't underclock the min cpu it's fine.
some of my tests show the stock eg-30 filesystem and kernel seem to work well also.
some would say it's not an eg12 modem issue but then again i have only one report of it happening on eg30 and even then it didnt happen every time.
the stock kernel is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273647 you may try that first
and a completely stock filesystem with kernel is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282420
erp one more thing remember to update prl and profile then reboot after flashing. seems to make a large difference
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Thanks man, ima try this right now..much is def appreciate for yall assistance..

It is most unusual that the stock EG30 modem isn't available to flash which is why so many people are trying everything possible to get it
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

yea they seem to go out of their way specifically to prevent you from pulling modem drivers for some reason. seems to only be an issue with cdma devices.

JohnCorleone said:
It is most unusual that the stock EG30 modem isn't available to flash which is why so many people are trying everything possible to get it
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium
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Yeah I even emailed samsung asking for it, not holding my breath though