Zagg New screen protector - Captivate Accessories

Great news. just hung up from Zagg CS regarding the possibility of a matte finish screen protector. He informed me that today BestB will be launching there new smudge-proof screen protector. It's not even available on their website!. My locale BB was aware of it but hasn't received it yet!

awesome, let us know when you get one?

I returned my Zagg for a refund. Same quality as every other cheap stick on "film that protects military helis" out there. Bad orange peel effect and pretty sticky. I personally have found the ones from ATT to be the best 100% slick and absolutely no image distortion protectors. I put a bit of car wax on it at work once or twice a week for ultra sleek and slick feel

88EVGAFTW said:
I returned my Zagg for a refund. Same quality as every other cheap stick on "film that protects military helis" out there. Bad orange peel effect and pretty sticky. I personally have found the ones from ATT to be the best 100% slick and absolutely no image distortion protectors. I put a bit of car wax on it at work once or twice a week for ultra sleek and slick feel
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FYI Zagg makes AT&Ts screen protectors

tomween1 said:
FYI Zagg makes AT&Ts screen protectors
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Zagg makes screen protectors for ATT devices. That doesn't mean that all protectors sold by ATT are produced by zagg

slntdth93 said:
Zagg makes screen protectors for ATT devices. That doesn't mean that all protectors sold by ATT are produced by zagg
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True however I've asked in the store and AT&T CS and in both cases they have assured me that their private label (AT&T brand) is Zaggs.

tomween1 said:
True however I've asked in the store and AT&T CS and in both cases they have assured me that their private label (AT&T brand) is Zaggs.
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No wonder I don't like those either. Zagg is by far the worst screen protector I have ever used.

So if we've got a current "orange peel" one, think they'd let you return it for one of the matte finishes?

Reefermattness said:
No wonder I don't like those either. Zagg is by far the worst screen protector I have ever used.
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^ +1 Hopefully their new one will be better

IMO
the glass is quite resistant, why cover it up with a SUCK screen protector ?
u will probably get something better the first chance u get !

Enjoy your scratched phone bro, leave this topic to people who care about screen protectors kthxbai
tzabka said:
the glass is quite resistant, why cover it up with a SUCK screen protector ?
u will probably get something better the first chance u get !
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Have had my zagg on for over 2 months now, still very clear and not peeling....

Hondo209 said:
Have had my zagg on for over 2 months now, still very clear and not peeling....
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Mine is 5+. It's the fingerprints that drive me insane That's why I can't wait for this one.

I have always used an Invisible shield, and I love it. I can't wait for the new one to come out, which I didn't even know about until now

Thanks for the info. I had no idea they were coming out with a new version. I've never really had an issue with my current Zagg shield, but will upgrade once its time.

I'm with u
Hondo209 said:
Have had my zagg on for over 2 months now, still very clear and not peeling....
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TommyZee said:
the glass is quite resistant, why cover it up with a SUCK screen protector ?
u will probably get something better the first chance u get !
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Give it some sand. You'll see why.

I hated my original Zagg. It felt like a major upgrade to switch to the 3 pack from the AT&T store.
Maybe the new Zagg won't suck as much.

noob ? is there any store near los angeles ca were i can buy a zagg protector. or is it just online

I think both Best Buy and AT&T carry the original, which sucks BTW.
I really prefer the ones that come in the three pack from AT&T to the Zagg Invisible Shield. The Zagg is thick and rubbery feeling, it slows down your finger and messes up your accuracy when using Swype. It also look bad - picks up finger oils smudges and has an orange peel texture.

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I can't find an anti-glare screen protector

I'm getting the phone soon, and I want an anti-glare one. I looked on ebay and can't find any.
*edit* I realized I didn't even ask anything. Can anyone point me to a website where I can buy an anti-glare screen protector?
Boxwave, AT&T, and Skinomi all have anti-glare screen protectors. I'm sure there are more but those are the ones I know off the top of my head.
SGP's Steinheil Ultra Fine Film (available directly from the SGP Store site) is another option.
phobos512 said:
Boxwave, AT&T, and Skinomi all have anti-glare screen protectors. I'm sure there are more but those are the ones I know off the top of my head.
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I live in Canada, so the AT&T one is not an option, I tried skinomi, but I didn't see an anti-glare one, can you link me to one directly?
I'll try boxwave now.
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SGP's Steinheil Ultra Fine Film (available directly from the SGP Store site) is another option.
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Holy ****, they do have it but it's $15 for only two of them.
I found these on Amazon, can anyone verify if they're any good:
http://www.amazon.com/Great-Shield-..._1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1299730610&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Crystal-Premium-Protector-REALOOK/dp/B004QFKB7M/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1
http://www.amazon.com/splash-Masque..._1_3?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1299738380&sr=1-3
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SGP's Steinheil Ultra Fine Film (available directly from the SGP Store site) is another option.
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I'll be going with the SGP, I used it on all 4 iPhone and 1 Motorola Droid. They are awesome screen protectors.
I'll probably purchase from their ebay store.
DO NOT BUY THE ATT ANTI GLARE ITS ABSOLUTE ****....... its gives a horrible look to the screen and you can literally see the multi color pixels in in the screen
ahjdmarchi said:
DO NOT BUY THE ATT ANTI GLARE ITS ABSOLUTE ****....... its gives a horrible look to the screen and you can literally see the multi color pixels in in the screen
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haha, it's ok, I live in Canada, the closest ATT to me is one in Seattle (if there is one there), and that's two hours away.
I'm not gonna get one from ATT. However, I need to know if those ones from Amazon I posted will do.
I didn't know they had one yet. Good deal, supposed to be the best.
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SGP's Steinheil Ultra Fine Film (available directly from the SGP Store site) is another option.
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I don't have that problem at all...
ahjdmarchi said:
DO NOT BUY THE ATT ANTI GLARE ITS ABSOLUTE ****....... its gives a horrible look to the screen and you can literally see the multi color pixels in in the screen
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I HATE the anti-glare screen protector but it was the only thing available at the time. Instead, I purchase a regular one on eBay as well as the Incipio Feather case that comes with one. IF these those fix the feel/look, I'll just have to go naked (screen )
Hi Ivan go to T-Mobile and buy the protector for Samsung vibrant and it fits very nice upside down plus its antiglare I have on my atrix
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Gorilla glass..
I 'm waiting also my atrix..
and i ordered from ebay screen protectors..
they said its anti-glare, but i dont think so.. because its very cheap..
anw.. do we really need screen protector?
it makes less-sensitive the screen..
it hasnt got good antiglare action..
it may not be exactly at the size of the screen
the screen is gorilla glass.. it is necessary to have extra protection?
is gorilla glass really un-scratchable?
from keys the gorilla glass it doesnt make any scratches..
but with something stronger?
e.g phone falls..
if the screen brakes, the screen protector wont prevent it from breaking..
if anyone has atrix or any gorilla-glass phone without screen protector
and believes it's not necessary,
please just inform us!
Do not buy wrapsol screen protector. They are extremely hard to put on and it dims the screen quite bad. Its the one with anti fingerprints. Also, the installation is a pain. There is no room for error. Any dust or lint trapped between the glass and the protector can not be removed with tape. It will beforever there. Im just thinking of removing it since my protector has full of unremovable dirt..
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bimmerboii said:
Do not buy wrapsol screen protector. They are extremely hard to put on and it dims the screen quite bad. Its the one with anti fingerprints. Also, the installation is a pain. There is no room for error. Any dust or lint trapped between the glass and the protector can not be removed with tape. It will beforever there. Im just thinking of removing it since my protector has full of unremovable dirt..
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I found it not too bad to apply. Make sure you're in a dust free environment (close the door in the bathroom and turn on the shower - hot - for a few minutes to steam things up).
I've messed up quite badly on an installation (got some lint stuck between the screen and protector) and was able to rectify the problem by washing the protector with soap and water and then reapplying it. Worked great!
there is what your looking for. these are the ones that have the Matte finish to them. i had these on my HD2 but now i bought the Invisible ones for my Atrix.
splash Masque Screen Protector Film Matte Clear (Anti-Glare) for Motorola Atrix 4G (3-Pack)
The best I've found is from www.nushield.com. I've used their screen products for years now on touch gps screens, Tilt2 and camera screens. Their DayVue film is great.
sal2708 said:
there is what your looking for. these are the ones that have the Matte finish to them. i had these on my HD2 but now i bought the Invisible ones for my Atrix.
splash Masque Screen Protector Film Matte Clear (Anti-Glare) for Motorola Atrix 4G (3-Pack)
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They are anti glare but give a horriblie look and texture to the phone literally feels like rubbing my hand on sandpaper
I got these instead
http://www.amazon.com/splash-Masque..._1_3?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1299738380&sr=1-3
And with Atrix Screen you dont really need antiglare
I bought the ones from att. I have had protectors on all my phones, out of necessity after scratching a new phone. I don't care for the att ones. They do ok for glare, but are horrible for the clarity of the screen. I am going to take it off. I went for about 2 weeks before I installed it. I really don't want to use one, but I live in Florida and the glass just reflects the sunlight soo well, which in turn really brings out the finger smudges. So I'll get another brand.

Smooth, transparent GS3 screen protector

What screen protectors for the SGS3 are perfectly smooth and transparentr? The screen protector I have on my current phone (BB) is slightly "frosted" or textured which messes with the pixels on the screen. It does make it easier to swipe and does not attract dust or fingerprints, but I would rather have a screen protector that is perfectly clear for the SGS3. What are some good ones?
just look for clear/crystal vs. matte (the "frosted" you have)
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What screen protectors for the SGS3 are perfectly smooth and transparentr? The screen protector I have on my current phone (BB) is slightly "frosted" or textured which messes with the pixels on the screen. It does make it easier to swipe and does not attract dust or fingerprints, but I would rather have a screen protector that is perfectly clear for the SGS3. What are some good ones?
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Go with SGP Ultra Crystal Screen protectors if you are looking for something that looks and feels like glass. No rubber feeling to it like some skins, and as the product name states, they are crystal clear. I have used Zagg, BodyGaurdz, Skinomi, etc, but I always go back to SGP Ultra series protectors because of how they feel, and protect the screen. Not to mention, it is a dry install, no water or spray to mess with and no bubbles.
I just ordered mine from Amazon yesterday for $13 + free shipping. Don't have my SGIII yet, but I have been used SGP covers on my SG, and SGII. Excellent protectors.
Thanks for this share. I've tried all you mentioned. Waiting for my new SGS3 also!
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I have only tried Invisible Shield and those cheap $2 screen protectors in the past, hated all of them till I got the SGP for my One X. LOVED it! It literally feels like nothing is there and looks like nothing is there. Ordering one for my S3 now
I've always been a fan of Realook. That is what I ordered for mine.
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DO NOT buy zagg invisible shield. I just did for the first time and i am demanding a refund from best buy.
+1 for the SGP Ultra Crystal, EXCEPT they've been discontinued - I've got one on mine and have the problem they've noted (there's another thread for this) - the way the screen curves, the edges don't seal. Spigen is replacing them with the Nano, to be out soon, I think. I'll be ok leaving it on until then, but you might want to hold off.
Just ordered a SGP Ultaclear Nano screen protector off of Amazon.
Getting all of these goodies in the mail without a phone to put them on is such a drag... *sigh*
Might be out of place but y use a screen protector. Want to know ur perspective> the ups and downs
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+1 for the SGP Ultra Crystal, EXCEPT they've been discontinued - I've got one on mine and have the problem they've noted (there's another thread for this) - the way the screen curves, the edges don't seal. Spigen is replacing them with the Nano, to be out soon, I think. I'll be ok leaving it on until then, but you might want to hold off.
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Yep. I found out about that too late. It's not bad looking, but they don't seal at the edge.
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Yep. I found out about that too late. It's not bad looking, but they don't seal at the edge.
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Apparently you can email them that you got the clear crystal and they will send you their new one, the ultranano for free.
rurouni572 said:
Apparently you can email them that you got the clear crystal and they will send you their new one, the ultranano for free.
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I will definitely look into that ASAP.
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Damn I wish those were available now. I really wanna get one for my phone
Anyone know when they are coming out?
sad6549775 said:
Might be out of place but y use a screen protector. Want to know ur perspective> the ups and downs
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to protect the screen
iam_ultrasonic said:
DO NOT buy zagg invisible shield. I just did for the first time and i am demanding a refund from best buy.
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Just to clarify... Did you buy the ZAGG InvisibleSHIELD or the ZAGG InvisibleSHIELD HD?
What did you not like about it?

Staining on INVISIBLE SHIELD by ZAGG :( Very upset

Anyone else experience staining of the original Invisible Shield from Zagg? I put mine on just a few days ago and I keep my phone in a leather pouch on my belt... the same type of leather pouch you can find at any cell phone accessory store, kiosk in the mall, retailer like walmart, best buy, at&t, t-mobile, etc... I started to see dye stains on the back, and I was like WTF... now I'm seeing a stain on the glass too! unacceptable.
I googled the problem and found lots of threads about staining on the iPad, not so much on phones..... any suggestions??
My suggestion would be to buy a better screen protector and don't worry about replacing $15 back cover of ever need be.
The_Biz said:
My suggestion would be to buy a better screen protector and don't worry about replacing $15 back cover of ever need be.
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Better screen protector? I thought the Zagg product was pretty much the best?
Araltd said:
Better screen protector? I thought the Zagg product was pretty much the best?
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Nah. Read some of the screen protector threads. They have recommendations in them. I use sgp ultra nano myself. But I have a few different versions of "realook" too.
Zagg's an overrated overpriced product imo.
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Better screen protector? I thought the Zagg product was pretty much the best?
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Zagg is pretty much the worst I've ever used, especially for touchscreens...
Rubbery/grippy with an orange peel texture and horrible pixel scattering.
Zagg's customer service is fantastic, unfortunately, their screen protectors are the worst...
Good info I just had one put on front and back on my s3 it is grippy, the heat also seams to be making the back start to lift I should have read more first.
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mykie242 said:
Zagg is pretty much the worst I've ever used, especially for touchscreens...
Rubbery/grippy with an orange peel texture and horrible pixel scattering.
Zagg's customer service is fantastic, unfortunately, their screen protectors are the worst...
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Agreed. Bought a Zagg because it was all they had at bestbuy and it looked and felt terrible. Plus it only came with one protector so if you mess up you are out of luck. Much happier with my Spigen FlexHD. I might try to contact Zagg because I was severely disappointed.
I use the cleartactic off eBay and am very pleased
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Screen Protector Help

I'm a new GS3 owner, and I know they have Gorilla Glass 2. Is a screen protector needed? Besides protection, what do they provide? Asking for some advice, any will be appreciated.
You sure do need a screen protector. I thought I was using my GS3 very carefully, yet somehow it got quite a few scratches. So, don't hesitate to spend a few bucks that will keep your expensive device in good shape.. :good:
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I'm a new GS3 owner, and I know they have Gorilla Glass 2. Is a screen protector needed? Besides protection, what do they provide? Asking for some advice, any will be appreciated.
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Yes its needed, unless you want tiny little scratches from quartz in your pocket. Besides protection? If our screens didn't need protection nobody would use a screen "PROTECTOR" hence that big bold word.
Do any screen protectors reduce glare? & Are there any you guys would recommned?
I'm not a fan of screen protectors, but if I have to pick one, I think the Spigen curved one is the best I've seen so far.
I was not interested in wearing one, but recently got an Incipio Silicrylic case that comes with what seems to be a decent screen protector, so I decided to give it a try.
The quality seems good, but I'm afraid it will peel off because of the curvy screen. This might not be the case, as it is hanging well so far, but I notice something that resembles a frame along some corners (only noticeable if you look at it with good light in the right angle).
Let's see if I can stand it in the long run
So yeah, if I have to buy one, I would go for a curved one that covers most of the front glass.
Go for an Bullkin protector(fullscreen) or an glass one.
SGP curved is rubbish, what a waste of money have I done on those SGP ones.
Bullkin one is in the Mercury thread here from kms108
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Never had such a phone, where i needed a screen protector. So i decided that i need one to protect from small scratches. I bough SGP curved. Of course it is very think and cover the whole screen, BUT i think it shows so much fingerprints and the quality is poor (leaves many scratches).
So now i am looking for fingerprint resistan protector that covers the whole screen (i thnik protection from small scratches is by default).
No screenprotector is fingerprint resistant. Only the matte versions have it a bit. Clear ones not.
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Do any screen protectors reduce glare? & Are there any you guys would recommned?
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Spg/SPIGEN makes very good screen protectors. I really like the glass like feel and doesn't have that rubber feel like zagg. Right now I have the zagg hd screen protector on my s3. But that's only cause the person who I traded my rezound for this s3 had it on previously. The zagg hd is alright. Not to rubber feel like the regular zagg. There are other companies out there that make great screen protectors just research on what you want and the feel.
Btw I like your avatar. Been a long time Rams fan since they were in LA. I feel bad for Bradford. We need to give him some weapons to throw to. I guess the good thing we'll have another top Draft pick and also since Washington is not doing to well we'll have there first round pick to. Haha. GO RAMS..
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I've tried this one, alot better than the spg, full coverage and much stronger that the sgp, with self healing for minor scratches, includes an easy apply patented technology.
skinplayer 3D mask film, a korean brand.
Just a few photo's.
I bought cheap ones $1 each off ebay. Couldnt be happier
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bmoreboy02 said:
I bought cheap ones $1 each off ebay. Couldnt be happier
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anything is better than nothing.
kms108 said:
I've tried this one, alot better than the spg, full coverage and much stronger that the sgp, with self healing for minor scratches, includes an easy apply patented technology.
skinplayer 3D mask film, a korean brand.
Just a few photo's.
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Where did you order from? Looks nice
jasvncnt1 said:
Where did you order from? Looks nice
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I got it locally from hong kong, but you can get it from ebay, just do some searching.

zagg or not?

So Ive used zagg since I had an iPhone, a Galaxy S3 and now when I get the Nexus, I would like to apply a screen protector to that as well.
Should I just go with the Zagg or this:
http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Ultra-C...2929&sr=8-3&keywords=nexus+5+screen+protector
Bei60 said:
So Ive used zagg since I had an iPhone, a Galaxy S3 and now when I get the Nexus, I would like to apply a screen protector to that as well.
Should I just go with the Zagg or this:
http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Ultra-C...2929&sr=8-3&keywords=nexus+5+screen+protector
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depending on how you carry your phone around i think your way more likely to shatter your screen then scratch it. I kept my s2 in my pocket and never had a screen protector. after 2 years the screen still has no scratches.
lart2150 said:
depending on how you carry your phone around i think your way more likely to shatter your screen then scratch it. I kept my s2 in my pocket and never had a screen protector. after 2 years the screen still has no scratches.
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I am way more likely to shatter the screen than scratch it, yes. Also it is very important to me to not feel anything on the screen and that the case will be as invisible as possible.
Bei60 said:
So Ive used zagg since I had an iPhone, a Galaxy S3 and now when I get the Nexus, I would like to apply a screen protector to that as well.
Should I just go with the Zagg or this:
http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Ultra-C...2929&sr=8-3&keywords=nexus+5+screen+protector
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does zagg even have a screen protector for the nexus 5??
P.Mobile said:
does zagg even have a screen protector for the nexus 5??
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yes
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/lg-nexus-5-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields/8416
Mine will be arriving next week. I have always used them. I am sure there are cheaper alternatives but I have never had a problem and don't like change.
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yes
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/lg-nexus-5-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields/8416
Mine will be arriving next week. I have always used them. I am sure there are cheaper alternatives but I have never had a problem and don't like change.
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I couldn't find any pictures on their site, do they have cutouts for everything?
Dont get a Zagg, they almost always orangepeel and are overpriced. Check out Spigen screen protectors, they have some of the best screen protectors i have ever used. I got got one for my Nexus 5 and cant even tell there is on on my screen. You can get a 3 pack from them for less than 1 Zagg
http://www.amazon.com/Protector-Cry...qid=1384114491&sr=8-1&keywords=nexus+5+spigen
rexxcastle said:
Dont get a Zagg, they almost always orangepeel and are overpriced. Check out Spigen screen protectors, they have some of the best screen protectors i have ever used. I got got one for my Nexus 5 and cant even tell there is on on my screen. You can get a 3 pack from them for less than 1 Zagg
http://www.amazon.com/Protector-Cry...qid=1384114491&sr=8-1&keywords=nexus+5+spigen
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The invisibleshield never had an orangepeel effect. I think that feel belongs to the older versions of Zagg.
Anyway, from my experience I went with Zagg. Just bought the screen protector. If I won't like it I can always ask for a refund, their customer service is amazing. Also, if anything peels off or the installation isn't going smooth they can always replace my screen protector for free.
If I won't like it I'll go with the glas.tr by spigen.
Thanks everyone.
I have a zagg invishield on day of purchase cracking protected action and covers well. I applied and left the phone for 24 hours . I have some spigen too and there now just sat in the box lol.
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Why not just get a screen protector from xtremeguard for under $2
I cannot stand the sticky/gummy feel of Zaggs. For that type of protection, I go with Clearplex. Right now, I have a not-quite-faulty Spigen glas.TR on mine while I wait on the replacement Nano glas to come in.
Never really like Zagg, there more pro apple imo. But thats not the reason I dont like them...I hate the orange peal looking and sticky texture I get from there screen protectors!
Ordered a Zagg. They have always done fine by me.
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Bei60 said:
I couldn't find any pictures on their site, do they have cutouts for everything?
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There are cutouts in the picture for the speaker, prox sensor. Although rumor has it that the 3 pack on amazon by Spigen for $15 its just like a flat deal with no cutouts and works fine. Go with what you trust and what you think is right and will work for you.
I don't like Zagg. I used Invisishield on a lumia800 and it had horrendous amounts of orange peel. Also, I was not a fan of the feel because it didn't feel smooth. They are not very forgiving if you are not good at applying them correctly the first time. I RMA'd one because it got some scratch on it and while they did send me the replacement, they said they never received my original protector and charged me the amount for a new invisishield. It's their fault for not providing me with a tracking number on their return packaging that it got lost. I've used dry application screen protectors since and they are visually better looking as well as they feel better.
I find Zaggs texture to be... Weird. I'd go for Skinomi. Smooth and doesn't have the orange peel effect that most wet application screen protectors have
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I got Spigen Protector Steinheil. My first time using. Cheap and I'm more than happy with it
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If I play games on my phone, I can't use a Zagg. The sticky gummieness doesn't let my finger slide on the screen, it's tries to skip across instead.
Zagg is garbage in my opinion. I never had one I kept on more than a few days. I in general don't like screen protectors. If I did use one though the only company I liked was clear-coat.
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My only complaint about zagg (and most wet application screen protectors) is that over time, if you were jeans, the screen protector will turn blue. It's easier to notice on a phone with a white front, but it sucks to know that it's happening nevertheless. Be prepared for that if you plan to invest in one of these.

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