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Do I really need a Screen Protector for Captivate?

Hi,
Is the Capacitative screen of this phone is scratch resistant like iPhone? I was able to use my iPhone for 2years without getting a scratch on screen. I am awaiting my phone in mail, was thinking of buying accesories...
Thank you

I won't be getting a protector for mine. As long as you are careful, you'll be fine.

Even people with ocd make mistakes. Get the case from att and a screen protector. Protect your investment. Trust me.

systoxity said:
Even people with ocd make mistakes. Get the case from att and a screen protector. Protect your investment. Trust me.
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Very true. And that whole scratch protector is kinda a lie. You can see pics/vids where the iPhone screen is pretty scratched.

No offense to anyone posting on this topic but I do not understand the purchase of accessories from AT&T or any other provider store. Items for these phones can be purchased significantly cheaper from online.
I bought a box of cut-to-size screen protectors for $5 from amazon and it has lasted our family through several phones and replacements. Touch screen function is not hindered and clarity is perfectly fine.
Though I use screen protectors, I do not believe in phone cases. I feel a phone is built to fit the users hand and cases add unwanted bulk that I don't like. Accidents do happen but in most situations you will cause no more than cosmetic damage. Use some sense when handling your phone and it should last until your next.
I remember recently having a "discussion" with my wife as to why she paid more to get a white iphone and then put a case on it. This baffled me to the point of agitation and I had to drop the conversation.
If really concerned, just get insurance through your provider or home insurance company. At least until the phone price drops after the next big release.

Thanks
Thanks for the replies, will be getting a case any way, still thinking of screen protector...

Shovelhead84 said:
No offense to anyone posting on this topic but I do not understand the purchase of accessories from AT&T or any other provider store. Items for these phones can be purchased significantly cheaper from online.
I bought a box of cut-to-size screen protectors for $5 from amazon and it has lasted our family through several phones and replacements. Touch screen function is not hindered and clarity is perfectly fine.
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QFT on all that. I bought like 6 from Ebay China for like $1 and they work better than Apple's $10 ones.
Shovelhead84 said:
Though I use screen protectors, I do not believe in phone cases. I feel a phone is built to fit the users hand and cases add unwanted bulk that I don't like. Accidents do happen but in most situations you will cause no more than cosmetic damage. Use some sense when handling your phone and it should last until your next.
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That's a calculated risk.
Is spending $5/mo with a $50 deductible worth it versus spending $30 for a case???
You obviously have not used any good cases. Not all cases are like Otterbox and add half a pound to the weight and an inch to the thickness... SwitchEasy was my favorite when I had my iPhone. Waiting for something similar on the Captivate now.
I'm debating this as well.

I got the body glove case from att and a pack of screen protectors. The att rep put it on for me bubble free. I keep the case on when i am out and take it off at my desk at work. The phone is beautiful. The screen protector is more finger friendly and shows no smudges.

Definitely get a screen protector. Accidents happen, no matter how careful you are. And I would suggest a body glove of some type, again, accidents happen.

What brand of screen protector do you guys recommend?

Shovelhead84 said:
No offense to anyone posting on this topic but I do not understand the purchase of accessories from AT&T or any other provider store. Items for these phones can be purchased significantly cheaper from online.
I bought a box of cut-to-size screen protectors for $5 from amazon and it has lasted our family through several phones and replacements. Touch screen function is not hindered and clarity is perfectly fine.
Though I use screen protectors, I do not believe in phone cases. I feel a phone is built to fit the users hand and cases add unwanted bulk that I don't like. Accidents do happen but in most situations you will cause no more than cosmetic damage. Use some sense when handling your phone and it should last until your next.
I remember recently having a "discussion" with my wife as to why she paid more to get a white iphone and then put a case on it. This baffled me to the point of agitation and I had to drop the conversation.
If really concerned, just get insurance through your provider or home insurance company. At least until the phone price drops after the next big release.
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aaaaaaaaahhhhhaha white iphone with a case. i lol'd. women eh?
with ur statement on bulk, get one with a minimalistic design. a case not only protect ur phone but look sexy too. if you scratch a case you can replace it hangin on to that sex appeal. scratch a phone and ur sol. Also good condition is important for resale
oh but if ur really against cases just get one like leather case that you only keep it in while ur not using it

Case:
I understand both sides. I guess "accidentally" putting my phones through more punishment than I thought they would endure has given me excess confidence in their physical design. I am a fan of the "phone pocket" now in most jeans and cargo pants. It is comfortable and easy to grab (also stays low to the ground). I would like to take some advice and get a nice case but I guess my wife's iPhone cases have already left me disapproving and I hate to add bulk, but maybe I'll try again. I'll admit the Captivate is a bit "smooth."
Screen Protector:
There is not to much to argue about here. I wouldn't worry about brand.
1. Does it stick to the screen?
2. Is it clear?
3. Does it fit?
If you answer YES to all three of these then it is a good screen protector.
If you answer NO to any one of these questions, KEEP SHOPPING.
I'll take a look later to see what brand the box is I have at home so I can post it.

Slim but durable cases are possible. Just very few companies put forth the effort to engineer one.
Switch Easy, they only make for iProducts but when I had my 3GS it was great. A thin rubber around the outside (protect it from shocks and also keeps the case itself from scratching it), then you snap a horizontal then a vertical case that form into one hard case... It was very thin (nothing like the bulk of an Otterbox), yet I think you could have thrown it across the room and the phone been fine.

I recommend the invisibleShield by Zagg. Had one on my iphone and totaled out a work van by flipping it with the phone sitting on the dash. Was one single mark on the iphone screen and it came off when I put a new Shield on it. I was impressed. It feels a bit rubbery for a screen protector at first but never noticed any impedance with touch sensitivity. Costs a bit more then normal protectors as well but again well worth it if you ask me.

Just got home and looked at the protectors I have. The brand is WRITERIGHT (universal screen protectors)
A set of 10 was dirt cheap ($3) and I have been using them for about 2 years. They are cut-to-fit and will cover the entire face of the captivate.
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hello all. first post on here. just got my captivate last saturday and still waiting for martin fields to make a screen protector for this phone. they are a lil pricey, but totally worth it.

Well when I picked up my Captivate, I picked up the Body Glove Silicone Case from ATT because I prefer to keep any new devices in a silicone/gel style case for some protection. My sister and mom picked up the Captivate after they played with mine on Sunday *7-19-2010* and called me last night to set up my mom's phone and install a screen protector *3x for $ 9.99 at the corporate att store in my area*, for installing the sp and transfering the contacts *manually* and setting up gmail, I got a SP for free for my captivate for 15 minuets worth of work. Not too bad and I am a little more less worried then the last 2 days..
HTH,
Charlie

Wow, 16 replies and not one answer to the original question about the Glass.
Many devices like Microsoft Zunes have a special hardened Glass, you can use keys, knives, razor blades etc to it and not scratch them. If a screen protector makes you warm and fuzzy go for it, but if this device (I don't yet know what Glass it has) has "that" Glass then its a waste of money. It's going to take a hell of a hit to break it, and a sceen protector wont prevent that.
You can read about such glass here:
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2009/04/glass-screen-durability-test-a-lesson-on-the-mohs-hardness-scale.php
I ran a screen protector on my HTC Hermes for years, and hated it. Finally removed it last year and love it. And no scratches. (Case has flip cover for when its in your pocket) A lot more depends on how you treat it. I have 4 sons, 2 of them seem to destroy electronics, 2 of them don't.

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Wow, 16 replies and not one answer to the original question about the Glass.
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Perhaps because nobody knows? And also nobody is going to scratch their expensive device just to find out.

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[Q] Any way to repair minor scratches on screen?

Please let me know. My daughter scratched up my phone.

Some screen protector companies claim if you put on their product it will cover up minor scratches.
I bought screen guard from xoskins.com and it seemed to cover up the few minor scratches I had. Or, at least, I don't notice them anymore.
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Yeah, I believe that. Most of these screen protectors look so crappy after u put them on the regular screen scratched up looks better. If any of you guys know of any good ways to actually fix the scratch and not just cover it up please advise. Thanks for your help.

hm you must not be very good at installing screen protectors OR you are buying super cheap ones. Most of the quality ones if installed correctly look almost invisible after the first day or so (some almost immediately) and will cover minor scratches making them almost to compellingly invisible.
The only other things i can think of is if you have the time and patience i have heard of people who have had success using very very fine jewelers sand paper and polish. a friend of mine also used the pens you can get for paint scratches on your car and has had success on other devices. never used either myself

I recommend "luxmo" branded screen protectors. Can't tell my evo is sporting one but I'm fully protected. Covered minor scratches and prevents future ones.
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Google
http://www.google.com/m/search?q=ey...ell:1&ei=1LiOTKD9NOaAtwfRgqWnAw&ved=0CA4QBSgA
Honestly not an answer to your problem but a good lead.
You can also find a cellphone repair shop and replace the glass. You can also order the part, adhesive, and DIY.
MCMCMGUYVER!!! WACHA DOIN WITH THAT THANG??
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I paid $30 to get the garbage Zagg Invisible Shield "professionally" installed at Best Buy. There are like 3 pretty noticeable dirt specs under the cover so I'm not happy with this choice (especially considering I paid $30 for this service) So aggravated...

Trust Me, They Suck At Installing Them.
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SantinoInc said:
I paid $30 to get the garbage Zagg Invisible Shield "professionally" installed at Best Buy. There are like 3 pretty noticeable dirt specs under the cover so I'm not happy with this choice (especially considering I paid $30 for this service) So aggravated...
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Ghost armor is the best.. i swear...
idk where they sell but I had mine done at the Dadeland Mall (Miami FL).40$ full wrap... this stuff is good... i once sat on my TP2 with a lighter under it... for at least 30 mins till i noticed... The screen had the FULL lighter imprinted (like bump-mapped)... 10mins later cleared right out...
i didnt like the rubbery feel around the whole phone... but the side strips really do protect it from scuffs and stuff... the screen i ended removing and getting money back... only have it on my batt cover now... looks way stylish and the screen itself is scratch-proof (i did the razor blade test as a skeptic).
the only thing i saw scratches the screen is scissors (if you try to), and rubbing it on rough concrete (literally rubbing it)... an old Nova screen which I got insurance replaced gave me these results...so thats how i know

SantinoInc said:
I paid $30 to get the garbage Zagg Invisible Shield "professionally" installed at Best Buy. There are like 3 pretty noticeable dirt specs under the cover so I'm not happy with this choice (especially considering I paid $30 for this service) So aggravated...
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well if you let that fly that's your own fault

i would take it back into them and say hey you see this ... this .. and this yea you need to redo it right kk thx buh bye.

omegasun18 said:
i would take it back into them and say hey you see this ... this .. and this yea you need to redo it right kk thx buh bye.
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omg, I lol'd right in my cubicle imagining saying "kk thx buh bye" to a bestbuy employee, get that one on video!

Yep... Ghost Armor is the ONLY thing I use. Better than invisishield. Lifetime warranty. I had to get a new one once and it was free... well... i did have to cover shipping of like a buck. Watch the video several times over and read read read before doing it.
It WILL hide those scratches.
BTW... could you ask your daughter how she scratched it? I saw a video of a guy when the EVOs first came out. He tried pretty hard to scratch it without a guard and he couldn't. So I am really curious.

I did go back to Best Buy today and I got much better Mobile guy this time. He told me that a lot of the InvisiShields were damaged...he had to go through like 6 of them till he found one without a blemish. He actually did a really good job installing it...doesn't justify paying $30 for a piece of plastic but at least he did a good job. I just hope it stays on.
As for how my daughter scratched it...I saw her with my cell phone face down on my glass coffee table. Maybe there was something abrasive between the screen and the coffee table. I'm really careful with my phone for the most part so I'm pretty certain that is when it happened.

Otterbox Is The Best!

When I bought my HTC Evo I purchased the Otterbox Commuter from Sprint. Being a Premier Customer I received a discount on accessories in addition to the sale they were running on accessories at the time. After getting all set up I gave my HTC Hero to my girlfriend to replace her Palm Pre. She liked her phone, but knew she wanted a case. I gave her the option of the Invisible Shield from Zagg, like she'd had on her Pre, or an Otterbox Commuter like mine. She liked the idea of the larger case because she's hard on phones.
So, I ordered her the Commuter and it arrived at the house when I was on my lunch hour. I placed it on the counter so she'd see it when she arrived home. I figured she'd understand that I was placing it there so she could see it and I would install it when I got home. Boy, howdy, was I wrong. I came home and she'd destroyed the screen protection that comes with the case. I tried as best I could to save it, but it was hopeless. It was completely ruined.
I told her that she could use the case, but to continue babying her phone because there was no screen protection at this point. I emailed Otterbox and explained the situation to them. I requested that they send me a new screen protector and I would pay for it, as well as shipping. I didn't hear from anyone for about a week, but someone did get back to me. They offered to replace it and requested my information.
I sent them my name/address/previous order information and they told me they were sending a replacement out. I thanked them profusely and, again, offered to pay for it. They denied my offer. About a week later I received a package in the mail. They sent a whole new case, not just a screen protector. They replaced the whole order! Otterbox is the best.
tl;dr: My girlfriend destroyed the screen protector to the Otterbox Commuter case I bought her. Otterbox replaced the whole case, not just the screen protector, for free with free shipping.

I used to sell Otterboxes and Body gloves. Otterboxes may not be cheap, but they do a hell of a job protecting your phone. Body Gloves are a bit cheaper, but they're nothing compared to Otters.

Those Blackberry and iPhone 3GS Defender cases were some of the most insane, most durable cases on the market. I had people come get one and intentionally throw or drop their phone just to prove how much it worked. Never saw a broken phone from that situation once. I was always from the camp of have it "in case" that happens but don't tempt fate.
The only issues I ever had with those was the "oil slick" appearance that pretty much mandated an anti glare screen or the baby powder trick.
Now with the new batch they've apparently corrected the "oil slick" but the durability of the cases for the iPhone 4 and EVO are way way down. Not only do they have parts that break (kickstand anyone), but the rubber fits in this little tiny channel and gets stretched just enough where it comes out very easily.
The service from the customer service has always been superb, as long as you call and patiently wait to speak with someone. I realize they have a relatively small CS team, so this is not an issue with me.
The only issue I take out is the quality of the cases they are currently putting out. I broke a kickstand on an EVO defender having never used it, opened it, and never dropped the phone either. Sure they replaced it, but that thing crumbled without any force or abuse.

It's a little plastic clip though, so that part you can't really be too surprised about. I'm surprised with how rough I am on my Evo the kickstand is still there.

Good for you, I know many people that rave about their customer service.
However, the new stuff seems to have taken a nose dive in quality. Buyer Beware. I'm an advocate of Ballistic and Trident now.

How do you guys stand phone cases?

Last month I dropped my phone on bricks which cracked the screen badly. I got the screen repaired by Samsung but the sides bordering the bezel still have some scuffs. I put on a case to cover up the scuffs (and protect the phone too) but I really hate it. My phone is bulkier, I have to take off the case to get access to the battery and the case collects a ton of dust. How do you all survive with a case on your phone?

faceyourfaces said:
Last month I dropped my phone on bricks which cracked the screen badly. I got the screen repaired by Samsung but the sides bordering the bezel still have some scuffs. I put on a case to cover up the scuffs (and protect the phone too) but I really hate it. My phone is bulkier, I have to take off the case to get access to the battery and the case collects a ton of dust. How do you all survive with a case on your phone?
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You have to shop around to get the right one. I bought the kickstand version offered by Sprint, it adds very little bulk, offers full access to all ports/buttons, slides easily in and out of pockets (isn't gel) and it has a kickstand (did I mention that already?).
Now, if I drop my phone on pavement from a high enough distance it's probably not going to offer me the same protection those huge, bulky otter box cases offer but I'm willing to take my chance.

easy i like to keep my phone in good shape. sure its slim profile is nice but is it nice all scratched to hell? lol i had/have a ballistics case which makes it really bulky, i got use to it and could slip it in/out of my pocket. Now i have the tpu extended battery case and its fine also.

I use silicon cases. They don't add very much size at all.

I just use the cheapo gel case i mean it slips off when I need to, stays on the rest of the time. It absorbs the impact in ways hard cases can't. But yeah the trade off on those is its about twice as thick as the thinnest hard case which really only helps with scratches.

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I use silicon cases. They don't add very much size at all.
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I agree with this. I have a silicon Tough Case (TC). Bought it from amazon for like $10. It is light and very thin. With the thin profile of my phone, with the case on ts still thinner than most other smartphones without a case. But i here were your coming from it is way better bare back.

Ive had mine since release day. Never once put a case on it. Dropped it pretty good at least 10 times and still no screen cracks or major dents. I will say that "Cheap plastic" helped it a ton. Try that with your glass iphone or metal framed phone, I bet you will get screen cracks and paint chips and large dents. I hate cases. Also I advise anybody and everybody to get their phone from Besy Buy Mobile. Their insurance is deducible free and virtually unlimited (every two weeks you can smash your phone to smithereens if you want) Cant go wrong. Never need to worry about a case or screen protectors.

Honestly the first time you drop it good with a case you just made your money back, so that helps me. Not to mention the Trident Aegis case = a hair thinner than the og evo. Sure, it isn't all sexy and skinny, but it'll still be beautiful years from now

I actually prefer my epic 4g touch with my tpu case over it being naked. But the the case has a very small form factor. On my OG epic I didn't like a case though.
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I use this thing. It takes an extra second to put it back in but I know it's secure.
I'm in construction (electrician) so I need something that won't slip from my hands while perched atop a ladder and won't get scuffed when clipped to my tool belt. I will gladly clean the case on a regular basis rather than lament a dirty, scuffed, and hard to replace rear panel. (Hard in terms of getting a new one.)
If I didn't need it for work, I would probably get one, albeit a thinner, more subtle one.

I look at it as a give and take. Sure I give up a little in terms of looks, but when it comes time to upgrade to another phone I am always able to get top dollar for my old phone.
Give the Sedio Active case a try. It is reasonably thin and you do not lose sensitivity on the volume and power buttons.

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Honestly the first time you drop it good with a case you just made your money back, so that helps me. Not to mention the Trident Aegis case = a hair thinner than the og evo. Sure, it isn't all sexy and skinny, but it'll still be beautiful years from now
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i completely agree .
i actually had my e4gt for 2 days on the second day i dropped it and cracked the internal screen ,and i lost all my new years pics because the screen would not turn on at all .
but i also bought the trident aegis case . It looks quite cool imo . and i have a better hold of the phone as well. ive dropped it several times now and all i get is a bounce

I use a case no, no screen protector.
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Nine dollars is a much smaller price to pay than $150 or $499.99. That's how I stand it.
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I got my phone in Dec after not having a phone from Feb - Dec last phone was iPhone 4, tried adding a line during black friday's .01 cent cell phone sale and amazon rep told me sale went until Dec 5 when tried to purchase it they said I was wrong, took 3 sup's before one actually said they do record every conversation and then hear the rep tell me the wrong details however thye where good on the .01 sale.
Got the phone and was given a zagg screen for Christmas and when I dropped it in March and it broke the glass I was glad I had the screen because it kept it in tact until I got the replacement for the $100 insurance so now I have extendable battery in order totally use the phone as intended but no extra case fits.
I like the extra weight and size the ext battery adds feels better in hand but totally believe in zagg screen for occasional dropping if there was an otter box for safety that would support ext batt I would totally get it since I've dropped the .01 and had to pay $100 for new.
I will say this about the screen, since it was already broken I tried scratching it with everything from a screwdriver to a chisel point file and it would not scratch makes me wonder why it is so fragile it breaks when dropped. Only reason I would use the zagg screen is to keep the broken glass in place otherwise I wouldn't have a screen cover.

I have a baby and he grabs my phone, bangs it on things, and knocks it off tables. My case and screen protector are a necessity.
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Matte TPU case adds virtually no bulk to the phone at all. It's really a perfect fit and looks great. Twice over the last 2 days I asked friends if they liked my case and they replied, "what case?". That says it all.

I got a cheap ass case from eBay, solely for the purpose of making my phone weigh something. It adds almost nothing, maybe a 1/8 inch. But, I must say I like it a lot. My kids dropped my phone twice, and not a single scratch. The case held like a champ. Well worth the $6 I paid for it.
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I got a cheap ass case from eBay, solely for the purpose of making my phone weigh something. It adds almost nothing, maybe a 1/8 inch. But, I must say I like it a lot. My kids dropped my phone twice, and not a single scratch. The case held like a champ. Well worth the $6 I paid for it.
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[Q] S3 Screen break..beware.

Hi, sad situation for me...bought the S3 last Wednesday. Phone slipped out of pants pocket yesterday, screen completely shattered, on impact with floor. The phone was a hardware upgrade, so it cost me virtually nothing for the phone, however, now I have lost the warranty, and my repair bill to fix the screen is going to be approximately $300 and $40 to get the repair estimate. I used a credit card to pay for it which has insurance only up to what I paid. So after repairs I will have a non warranted phone and out of pocket $$$, so much for my hardware upgrade phone cost saving. Even if I purchased the protection plan I would be out $200, and no warranty either. Sadly, 2 service reps said they have the same phone and their kids play with it and drop it all the time. I guess I must be the lucky one who got one with defective glass?? Heres hoping nothing happens technically with the phone over the next 3 years.
Any one else have glass issues?

Nope. Buy an otterbox. Its 50 dollars and will save you the headache and money if you have a case of the butter fingers.
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Jesus, ever heard of a case? I purchased an Otterbox from the day they released it for the S3.
Next time get a case of some sort, problem solved.
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Sorry about your phone.. But next time it's time to use a case that's has a good amount of protection depending on you....
As for maybe having a defected screen that you think broke to easy... It all depends how the phone /screen hits the ground and what type.. I saw them gorilla glass demos how it can take a good beating and how much pressure it takes to cracked the screen.. I think that's just marketing.. They don't demo it with a phone that's why we have people in YouTube for that lol.. Some people screen break from a 2 foot fall..

Otter box is waste of money and bulky. Get the speck candy shell, its slim, and shock absorbent.

Yeah I was looking for a case, guess I didn't realize how fragile the glass was....gorilla you say....lol

i have always liked the casemate pop series

MrPhoneMan said:
Hi, sad situation for me...bought the S3 last Wednesday. Phone slipped out of pants pocket yesterday, screen completely shattered, on impact with floor. The phone was a hardware upgrade, so it cost me virtually nothing for the phone, however, now I have lost the warranty, and my repair bill to fix the screen is going to be approximately $300 and $40 to get the repair estimate. I used a credit card to pay for it which has insurance only up to what I paid. So after repairs I will have a non warranted phone and out of pocket $$$, so much for my hardware upgrade phone cost saving. Even if I purchased the protection plan I would be out $200, and no warranty either. Sadly, 2 service reps said they have the same phone and their kids play with it and drop it all the time. I guess I must be the lucky one who got one with defective glass?? Heres hoping nothing happens technically with the phone over the next 3 years.
Any one else have glass issues?
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I doubt the glass was defective, its been shown that if the phone falls a certain way the glass will shatter, generally if you drop the phone naked from a pretty considerable height more then 3 feet, and it hits one of the corners generally the top, the glass will shatter. Like everyone else has said get a case. Ive dropped my phone a few times now still looks as new as the day I bought it, I recommend TPU cases from Diztronic or SGP, thing enough and provide a decent amount of drop protection.

I have an otterbox commuter case and my phone just survived a car accident.
It flew from the console, hit the dash, bounced to the deploying airbag bounced off the rear glass and landed in the drivers footwell.
Yup, really fragile this phone.

I have a defender series and personally I don't notice the bulk that much, if u really cared about the bulk why even have a case ? Just get invis shield and call it a day. Only real downside of an otter box is that the open areas,I.e. home button cameras and speakers/mics get dirty and have to be cleaned.
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I've found the screen protector that's built in to the Defender doesn't seat properly on the screen (most likely due to the slightly concave screen). I just popped the screen protector out, installed a screen protector on the phone, good to go.

neubauej said:
I have an otterbox commuter case and my phone just survived a car accident.
It flew from the console, hit the dash, bounced to the deploying airbag bounced off the rear glass and landed in the drivers footwell.
Yup, really fragile this phone.
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You watched the phone do all this in the middle of a car crash?
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lol that's funny !

REALLY sorry to hear about your screen! That really sucks! I put a Trident Kraken AMS on mine and have dropped it twice on concrete, Barely a scratch; cost me $30.
The Gorilla Glass was never designed to survive that type of fall. It's designed to resist scratching(against items with the same strength), and that's about all.
Get a decent case, it really is worth the extra bulk

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You watched the phone do all this in the middle of a car crash?
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Drive cam.
Its a camera mounted low on the windshield with both a forward and rearward facing wide angle lens to save or cook your bacon in the event of a crash.
I'm not superman.