Develop Bugs

What issues I have found in Crossbow

Hi there,
Playing with Crossbow for a while now and here is what problems I encountered:
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1. No Videocalling support.
This is a well known one by now. Hope the fix is there soon!
2.Windows Live Messenger contacts to be synced with own Outlook contacts.
Also a well known one and very annoying as well. As annoying as it is, I guess I can live with that.
3. "Suggesting words when entering text" automatically enabled after soft reset.
Also very annoying. I always disable this function just because I don't want the device to suggest words while I'm typing. Seems to be a bug.
4. Homepage cannot be set in Internet Explorer.
The option is actually there in "Options", but the entry field is disabled, so it will keep Google.com as default home page. You can still set the home page by change the corresponding key in the register, but I think it should be possible just to set it in the Internet Explorer itself.
5. Wi-Fi and Bluetooth cannot be activated/deactivated by using the "Wireless" today screen item.
Better yet: the entire "Wireless" today item isn't doing anything when you click it.
6. ClearVue PDF comes up with an error when opening a PDF document.
Sometimes it will open a file, but most of the time it won't. You can use PDF files by installing Adobe Reader 2.0, but ofcourse it just has to work with the built-in ClearVue.
7. Freeze after soft reset.
Sometimes the device just freezes when rebooting after a soft reset.
Sometimes at the "Enter pin" screen, somtimes after entering the pin code.
Soft resetting again solves the problem. Bug?
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That's the list.
I hope this information means some value to you who are improving Crossbow!!

4) use registry

3) no need to edit it in registry, just click yourself through settings<br>
Start / Settings / Input / Word Completition.<br><br>
And I think it is not bug, but feature. If it wouldnt be switched on, you might not know your device can do it

because you either selected us as your location or you didn't select one and us is default

yes you were right, thanks. Tried to delete that post but no luck.

2) Actually, you can prevent that the synchronization of Messenger contacts results in unwanted contacts in Outlook:
- Before you sign in to Messenger, do the following
- Open Outlook (either on your PC or on your mobile device)
- For each of the contacts you've defined both in your Outlook and in your Messenger contact lists, specify the instant-messaging (e-mail) address of the Messenger-contact in the Outlook-contact; in the field called "IM" (in Outlook Mobile) or "IM Address" (in Outlook 2007)
- If you did the previous on your PC, synchronize your Mobile device with your PC
- Then sign in to Messenger on your mobile device
Now, when you open your Contacts application, you can see which contacts are online...

fuho said:
3) no need to edit it in registry, just click yourself through settings<br>
Start / Settings / Input / Word Completition.<br><br>
And I think it is not bug, but feature. If it wouldnt be switched on, you might not know your device can do it
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It IS a bug. I don't want this function to be enabled, so I switched it off. After a softreset it's always switched on again.

Mate your a bug! I am a systems analyst ok. A bug is something that DOES NOT WORK! Not something that doesn't work the way you like it!!
I see this trick every day. People request modifications that they want urgently by posting them as bugs.
Stop wasting midget's time. A new WM 6 ROM is important and needs to be tested and DE-BUGGED so amateurs like you can modify to your hearts content while power users like US can run a stable operating system.
I don't mean any offense but posts like yours waste our time - for example I receive these live via push email and feel compelled to review them in case there really is a BUG I need to be aware of.
My advice to you - go and buy a second hand palm & go play in the traffic...
Simon

my 2 bits:-
my 2 bits:-
1] device freezes on soft reset
2] battrey drain is much more than the AKU 3.5 romsnot
3] contrary 2 others there is a memory
4] phone doesn't remember the default SIP even if the registry is changed
5] leakcamera hardware button error on access the camera program
6] windows live doesen't connect via w-lan if gprs is active
7] wi-fi short cut on today doesnt work...
8] able 2 set mp3/wma tones for notifications/alarms
9] spb backup 1.51 doesn't work
PRO's
1] love the speed
2] graphics
3] smart-dialing
4] more ram
3rd party programs i use
spb plus 3.1
spb backup 1.51
saman's new menu for wm5
a few reg tweaks from this forum & internet
frz

simonsalo said:
Mate your a bug! I am a systems analyst ok. A bug is something that DOES NOT WORK! Not something that doesn't work the way you like it!!
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Not that I care, but:
-Videocalling is supposed to work, and doesn't. That, by your definition, is a bug.
- Freezing on soft reset is a BUG. Freezing for any INTERNAL reason is due to something NOT WORKING
- Homepage settings, and word completion, settings not sticking after a reset are BUGS, because IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.
- The BUILT IN PDF program that freezes when you open PDF's is not a bug????
- I'll give you the wireless plugin for now because I am not sure if it is supposed to act differently.
Just because YOU CAN"T FIX IT doesn't mean it's not a bug!!! There are a lot of low-level users that read these forums and use these hacks. Issues like this are important to know to people who are contemplating changing ROM's. Have some consideration for them, and everyone else on this forum other than yourself.
I hope this is being pushed to your phone right now, and you are in the middle of something very intensive.
Like, sitting in traffic maybe

Encryption
Bug :
- Encryption Control Panel applet is useless.
I have to make registry changes to use encryption.
( By adding values to HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory)

patmannyc said:
Not that I care, but:
-Videocalling is supposed to work, and doesn't. That, by your definition, is a bug.
- Freezing on soft reset is a BUG. Freezing for any INTERNAL reason is due to something NOT WORKING
- Homepage settings, and word completion, settings not sticking after a reset are BUGS, because IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.
- The BUILT IN PDF program that freezes when you open PDF's is not a bug????
- I'll give you the wireless plugin for now because I am not sure if it is supposed to act differently.
Just because YOU CAN"T FIX IT doesn't mean it's not a bug!!! There are a lot of low-level users that read these forums and use these hacks. Issues like this are important to know to people who are contemplating changing ROM's. Have some consideration for them, and everyone else on this forum other than yourself.
I hope this is being pushed to your phone right now, and you are in the middle of something very intensive.
Like, sitting in traffic maybe
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And thanks for your support. Much appreciated. Really!
Anyway, when I uncheck the 'suggestion words' option by choice and it returns to enabled after a softreset... is that something that does work correctly then? It's not.

simonsalo said:
My advice to you - go and buy a second hand palm & go play in the traffic...
Simon
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My advice to you - try a different career...

Hey fuho,
deleted the post for you...

I have a slow memory leak. It starts at 24M and after 3days i only have 17~18M (no programs running, of course). After a reset, returns to 24M.
Virtual poll - OK
pinnacle chess - OK
Text Maker - OK ...but it have some small issues
Pocket Stars -OK
SK tools - Ok

JayRayMee.NL said:
And thanks for your support. Much appreciated. Really!
Anyway, when I uncheck the 'suggestion words' option by choice and it returns to enabled after a softreset... is that something that does work correctly then? It's not.
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Well, I suggest waiting 5 minutes before soft-resetting. Changes you make to the registry need to be synced to the flash rom, which will take a little while. Happens everywhere, though. Try reading an email with direct push enabled (marking it as read) and immediately reboot. After starting mail again you'll see that that the mail you just read is marked as unread again. Same issue.
Just FYI...

JLCor said:
I have a slow memory leak. It starts at 24M and after 3days i only have 17~18M (no programs running, of course). After a reset, returns to 24M.
Virtual poll - OK
pinnacle chess - OK
Text Maker - OK ...but it have some small issues
Pocket Stars -OK
SK tools - Ok
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You seriously left your phone on for 3days without using it?

I believe he his saying he didn't soft reset in 3 days.

yes. I simply didn't soft reset in 3 days.

JLCor said:
yes. I simply didn't soft reset in 3 days.
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Well then 17ish meg is pretty good then. Take it that would be normal use then - not really surprised.

WiFi self power-on, font problem

Hi everybody,
sometimes happends me that during call wifi gets automatically power on, then i have to manually shut it off...Where can be the problem?
Next thing is im still searching for solution how to get smaller font in Start Menu, where latest programs, Programs, Settings etc. are...Im not using TF3D, and when it is in landscape mode i cant see all things like Programs, Settings...grrr...

Push email
vikino said:
Hi everybody,
sometimes happends me that during call wifi gets automatically power on, then i have to manually shut it off...Where can be the problem?
Next thing is im still searching for solution how to get smaller font in Start Menu, where latest programs, Programs, Settings etc. are...Im not using TF3D, and when it is in landscape mode i cant see all things like Programs, Settings...grrr...
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Hi vikino
To answer your first question, I think it may be because you are using ActiveSnyc with Push Email enabled. If you go to Comm Manager, is the switch for "Microsoft Direct Push" on? If so, when you are on a GPRS connection and make a call your data connection will drop as only 3G or HSDPA can co-exist with an active call. Like the difference between old dial-up and modern broadband internet on your landline. If you're not using Direct Push I can't think what's causing it, but it maybe the HTC Push Internet. If it's the push email thing, you may want to consider switching off "Microsoft Direct Push" from Comm Manager and then going into ActiveSync and setting the sync schedule to "As Items Arrive" manually.
Can you please clarify your second question. It's not 100% clear what is not being displayed properly.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

.....you know what? You're right, im using Push mail with my own mail server at home...and in the region i live in we dont have 3G it runs on Edge... Push internet i dont know where to set it up, i found it only in TF3D, but im not using it...If it is working w/o TF3D would be nice to know where to set it up...
The second thing is that on Xperia i had was nice small font in menu so in landscape fits all fields in without scrolling, on TP2 is much more bigger font and i have to scroll down for everything, programs and settings i found in top as icon...

Bugs in TouchFlo & missing items

Going from a TyTnII to a Touch Pro 2 a few bug & short comings become obvious in the TouchFlo interface.
Home
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
The alarm frequently doesn’t go off
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
People
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
Messages
It takes too long (5 seconds) for a message to change to read. Sending a contact by 3G it goes as MMS not SMS which it does when working just in Windows 6.1
If it’s a long message you can’t scroll up / down
The tab to enable the predictive 4 words is missing, only being enabled in the registry, possibly related but full querty keeps changing to a numbers only keypad or HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 0 to 1
Internet
Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
(If you want to stop it auto connecting, just put a user name but now password in the connections setting)
Calendar
No week view
Music
Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
Camera
Why isn’t the 5 MP like the touch HD?
Why isn’t the GPS location enabled to start, rather than having to go into the registry
Stocks
I don’t know as I don’t do them
Settings
This looks better in 2.5
Buttons
Only one can be remapped – I use Phone button long hold to get into Windows 6.1
A number of games, while in the game could be remapped for left right turn fire
Software
Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
Also there wasn’t a radio, but thanks to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356 there is & it even has RDS, but more than 6 memories would be nice.
Even if it has a radio it still needs TMC for the traffic update in the CoPilot 7 GPS
Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
I had a TREO & the software took a normal back up, then apply that to a replacement & you can’t see the difference. Why can’t Windows backup do this?

Voice Recorder & Radio : it all depends on where you get your device. Mine comes with both.
Upgrade ROM wipes everything : that has always been the case with Pocket PC, not just with wm6

Wow, that's a long rant. But a lot of the stuff can be addressed or will be in the next revision of TF3D.
cjatcti said:
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
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You can change the date format with Advanced Config tool.
cjatcti said:
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
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This is a little weak. You're deliberately doing something that a normal person would not normally do just to try to trick the device. I'm not buying this rant.
cjatcti said:
The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
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Really should search for such a common issue.
cjatcti said:
You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
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You can use Manila Today.
cjatcti said:
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
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This will be fixed with Manila v2.5
cjatcti said:
Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
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Use the phone app. IMHO, it's not as flashy but faster to search for a name in the phone app. Just type the person's name either with the dialpad or slideout keyboard.
cjatcti said:
Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
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Opera does time out on me quite a bit. If it takes too long to read from a site, it gives the 500 error timeout. Anyway, you can choose to completely kill Opera from your running programs. Search for it if it really bothers you. I think someone from the Topaz forum figured it out.
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No week view
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Fixed in Manila v2.5
cjatcti said:
Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
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I have quite a bit of music on my SD card and it doesn't take an annoyingly amount of time to load. Besides, when it's loading, your device is still very much functional.
There should be a search function to find a particular song. But I think it fine as long as all your music are tagged appropriately so that you can search via album or artist.
The library shows all music in your SD card and in your My Music folder in main memory. I don't see anything wrong with this setup. Where else would you want the library to look?
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Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
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Record is still there. It just no longer has a dedicated program link. Just go to Notes. Go to menu-view recording toolbar.
cjatcti said:
Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
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This a little annoying. But I take this as an opportunity to clean out my device. I put organize all files into their respective folders, decide whether or not a particular app is useful enough to be reinstalled, etc.

Thank you for the reply & the links, I wasn’t trying to rant, just list the easily fixable short comings in one place & possibly HTC might get them fixed in a future release. I know it can be fun tinkering to improve, but I believe it should work out of the box.
Kitchens should be for extras

Time Zone Bug in the touch flow interface.
To avoid Outlook moving the times of my flights as the time zones change, I tell the phone not to auto update time zone & just change the time in my home town.
So when I arrived in Poland, I set my home town Cheltenham time on an hour. Later I discovered that the Phone had added GMT +1 Berlin & ignored the Warszawa time zone I had set.
When I came back to the US, turned on my phone looked later & it was asking me to select a city.
1) The problem with Outlook changing appointment times to suit time zones is just plane wrong.
2) Yet again Touch flow ignores a windows interface setting
3) It should at least ask you if it wants to change
4) It should look to see if you have a city in country you are in already selected instead of just adding more World Clock entries

you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
ty

frozenbutt said:
you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
ty
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Of course, not officially released by HTC yet. But then, Windows Mobile 6.5 isn't officially released either and that didn't stop people from getting it on our devices...

Mango Tips & Tricks

Well, Mango Beta is here, meaning there are lots of new cool features. Some of them are either buried or not obvious. Here are some that I've found so far:
UPDATE: Thank you for everyone's participation. I have added several tips based on comments in the discussion
Custom Ringtones
1. Copy MP3 or WMA to Zune Collection. Choose Edit, and type in manually under Genre "Ringtone". The song must be less than 40 seconds and smaller than 1MB.
2. Go to Settings -> Ringtones + Sounds, tap Ringtone. Your custom ringtone will appear under a new tree called "Custom", above "Windows Phone"
Note that it is identified by the filename, rather than the track title.
Also, you can tap and HOLD a ringtone, and Delete will be offered (but only on the Custom ones; preloaded ones grey out delete).
Windows Live Messenger
Windows Live Messenger is so damned easy that I didn't see it staring at me. Pick Messaging, slide right to Online. Set Chat Status (icon at bottom), hit +, and send a message to any Messenger contact. And/or if anyone sends you an MSN, you get a ding just like a SMS, and it appears under Messaging.
Mango automatically made my Windows Live account that my phone is registered under, which is also my Messenger account, work. Others have noted that it's not possible to have a second Messenger account -- only your PRIMARY Windows Live account is linked to Messenger.
Facebook chat is set up also from Messaging -> Online. Some people have had trouble with this... read down to see some possible solutions.
Dev Unlock Mango B2
You must have a dev unlocked phone to install Mango, but installing Mango relocks your phone. To unlock it again, run Windows Phone Developer Registration from the Beta 2 SDK tools.
Voice Activated SMS/Messaging
To allow Voice recognition from Messaging (like SMS, Messenger) while on Carrier Data, go to Settings -> Speech and check Enable Speech Recognition over Network.
This is REALLY cool. Put on a headset; leave your phone on the home screen. When someone sends you a Messenger, it announces that the person has sent you a message, Read It or Ignore. If you say, "Read it", the phone reads the message. You then have an opportunity to reply via speech!
Visual Voicemail
Evidently, this is in Settings -> Phone (or Phone app, slide up, call settings). But it doesn't show up for everyone -- it's carrier dependent (doesn't show up for Telus phone on Fido for me).
Exchange/Gmail Server Search
To search the server for older (for example, Exchange) go to Outlook, click the on-screen search button, make a search. At the bottom of the results, tap "search more in Outlook". When the server search is done, at the bottom of the results, you'll see "get more results" and "search all folders". Woohoo!
Bing Visual Search -- and OCR!
Tap Bing key. Click eyeball. You can snap QR codes, Microsoft codes, or TEXT. If you snap text, it will then detect it, and you can translate it (for example, from French to English). But as someone mentioned, you can translate from English to English... and the results come as text that you can then Copy and Paste! Quick and easy cloud OCR that you have to see to believe.
Skydrive, Office
Just, Wow!
Go to Office. Slide over to Locations and SkyDrive. You can see any of the documents on your SkyDrive, and edit things like Word. It's perfect.
Notes (OneNote, synchronized with SkyDrive and your Desktop OneNote as long as you're saving to Web) is really slick. Office 365 and SharePoint are under Locations.
Easy Ones
Music Controls - This one's easy. Play a song, pause it. Hit lock key. Controls are on the wallpaper. Unlock, hit volume keys -- Controls appear.
Multitasking - Hold down Back button. It's a beautiful implementation. To remove a task from the list, pick it, then hit back button once.
Outlook Threads - Just tap a conversation thread to expand it.
Outlook Account Linking - Outlook -> ... -> Link Inboxes
App Grouping - tap the letters above the groups of apps, just like the phone book (tapping "a" gets you all the letters, tapping "s" jumps to Settings)
App Find - tap magnifying glass on apps list
IE9 -- OMG. Best Mobile Browser Ever. 'nuff said. But is it possible to turn off Address Bar in Landscape? Takes up lots of space.
People/Groups - Tap People hub, tap Family or +. You can make your own Groups, and then SMS or email everyone in the group that has SMS or email. Or quickly call them, since they get big tiles.
People/History - Tap a contact in the People hub, slide to the right, and see History. It shows call/messaging history, and "search Outlook" at the bottom.
Really Nice Subtle features
- Improved buttons during a voice call (larger, blockier, and harder to mispress)
- People Tile is really pretty now
- XBox Live Hub, Avatar, Messages -- way, way nicer. Best game hub ever.
- Marketplace is much better organized; Games are split up into categories.
- Power Down (hold lock button) now "confirms" with a prompt to slide down
- Hardware Search button now always brings up Bing; on-screen search button for context-sensitive.
- Dithering on browser eliminates banding in most cases
Doesn't Work Anymore
The following appear to be broken in Mango:
- Homebrew - Chevron Ringtone Installer (but it's bult in now)
- Homebrew - Home Screen Bluetooth/Wifi/Data button (I already miss this one!)
- LG App Store doesn't seem to open anymore (error appears -- but this seems to work for at least some other people)
- Maps Directions gives an Error
- Maps - Some people don't get Traffic, others do. For the time being I am using gMaps. Free version works!
- Not really sure how to go back and forward on the browser, other than "recent" (which doesn't give you cached version).
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To make Traffic work, just set region/location to English (United States). I had it set to English (Canada). Directions from "My Location" then works as well! (note that I am physically in Canada).
LG App store still does not work for me. It comes up with Error code:805a0194 (Optimus 7 / Telus)

Is your Facebook chat working?
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Facebook chat isn't working for me. In the messaging option for facebook chat, I hit ON, it then says Facebook is set up on my phone, but more steps are needed for chat to work, it then going to a web page that is a dead link.

Nope
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Is your Facebook chat working?
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Nope, I didn't try very hard, but it looks like other people on various threads can't get it working either.

Talys said:
Missing
- What happened to traffic, in Maps?
- Is it possible to search server folders in Outlook?
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Traffic will be back in with the final release/build (if not sooner?)
Full exchange folder search should be possible, as full search of folders for online email. Your outlook wont be searchable unless you sync it to hotmail via connector or use exchange.
I haven't gotten my email yet for download, but this is whats supposed to be in the [final] build. Hope not too many things haven't been implemented, but looking forward to messing around with it.

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Traffic will be back in with the final release/build (if not sooner?)
Full exchange folder search should be possible, as full search of folders for online email. Your outlook wont be searchable unless you sync it to hotmail via connector or use exchange.
I haven't gotten my email yet for download, but this is whats supposed to be in the [final] build. Hope not too many things haven't been implemented, but looking forward to messing around with it.
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It looks great to me. Most features appear fully implmented or "implemented but not quite working" (like FB chat).
I use Exchange. Can't seem to find unsynced emails using the server (eg server search for a year old email or unsync'ed folder). This is a super useful feature on the BlackBerry.
Traffic back would be nice, as I cancelled my XM Nav on my car, since Maps Traffic worked so well
I will have to see how well Network Voice Recognition works when on 3G. Previously, using the LG Voice to Text App, performance on LAN was awesome but performance on anything short of a great 3G connection was awful (the wait was so long that I could park the car and type the message 5 times over).

You guys aren't seeing traffic in maps? I see it and it works just fine.
Don't forget you can also turn on Visual Voicemail in phone settings. Then you can get to your voice through the Phone tile, and by swiping over to voicemail.
Also, Messenger only signs in using your primary live account. You cannot add a second Live ID and have it sign it to messenger.

Facebook Chat works without problems for me
And the Facebook App gets updated with live tile and push notifications, is like christmas for WP7!!!!!!
http://www.wpcentral.com/facebook-windows-phone-hits-v2-0-gets-push-notifications

i'll be the first to ask...is there now a separate ringer volume? in other words is media and ringer volume separate?

I think asking questions is a great idea, but everyone should probably keep one important thing in mind. This is not even CLOSE to the final build, so just because a feature isn't "in there" today doesn't mean it isn't already in the plan for the release version.
With that said, here's my question. Does the task switcher offer any way to close a running task? I can't believe that such an obvious, basic, and NECESSARY feature isn't in there. And only the five most recent tasks? To quote Microsoft's own ad campaign, "Really?"

weatherx said:
i'll be the first to ask...is there now a separate ringer volume? in other words is media and ringer volume separate?
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As far as I can tell, nope. Just a single volume control.
RoboDad said:
With that said, here's my question. Does the task switcher offer any way to close a running task? I can't believe that such an obvious, basic, and NECESSARY feature isn't in there. And only the five most recent tasks? To quote Microsoft's own ad campaign, "Really?"
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The only way to manage running tasks is from the background tasks option under settings. As far as I can tell, the task switcher is just a list of recent apps. They don't run in the background, they become frozen in the background (kinda like they do now in 7.0), and because they aren't actually doing anything in the background, there is no need to close anything within the task switcher. So the option doesn't make much sense to begin with since it doesn't really close anything.

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The only way to manage running tasks is from the background tasks option under settings. As far as I can tell, the task switcher is just a list of recent apps. They don't run in the background, they become frozen in the background (kinda like they do now in 7.0), and because they aren't actually doing anything in the background, there is no need to close anything within the task switcher. So the option doesn't make much sense to begin with since it doesn't really close anything.
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Open the app & press back button will remove it from task switcher. The only app this doesn't work on is IE from what I've seen as the back button is the back navigator button for web pages.

Talys said:
Nope, I didn't try very hard, but it looks like other people on various threads can't get it working either.
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Try manually syncing your facebook account under email&accounts.

Unless the back button has radically changed under Mango, pressing the back button once doesn't exit an app, unless the app is specifically written to treat a single back button press as "exit". Many apps are very poorly written WRT the back button, and some would require a dozen or more presses to "exit".
And, there are some apps where the back button is part of the necessary app navigation (not just IE, but some other apps I use). I wouldn't want the OS to interpret a single press as an exit if I switch back to the app.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Open the app & press back button will remove it from task switcher. The only app this doesn't work on is IE from what I've seen as the back button is the back navigator button for web pages.
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Yes, well, that simply removes the "card" from the task switcher. That doesn't necessarily close the application or kill the task. All the task switcher does is step back in time. So going back to an app, and pressing back removes it because by pressing back, you are bring the phone back to a point where the task you switched to has not been started yet (time travel, such a paradox).
If you want to remove a card from the task switcher history, instead of going to the app and pressing back on it to "close" it, you could simply go to the app right before that and it effectively does the same thing. Saves you a step right there.
The problem is that multi-tasking exists for specific reasons/apps on Windows Phone 7.5 and the only way to manage that is by using the background tasks options menu.
So there are two questions and solutions here:
1) Can you terminate an app from the task switcher? No.
2) Can you remove a recent application from the task switcher list? Yes

Thanks for that clarification. I suppose I'll have to play with it once Mango "ships", but right now I'm not sure the task switcher is going to be very useful to me.

prjkthack said:
Yes, well, that simply removes the "card" from the task switcher. That doesn't necessarily close the application or kill the task. All the task switcher does is step back in time. So going back to an app, and pressing back removes it because by pressing back, you are bring the phone back to a point where the task you switched to has not been started yet (time travel, such a paradox).
If you want to remove a card from the task switcher history, instead of going to the app and pressing back on it to "close" it, you could simply go to the app right before that and it effectively does the same thing. Saves you a step right there.
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Part of what you said is true, but part isn't. Say I have IE, Messaging, Mail, Settings open in that order. I go back to Messaging & press "back". Now IE, Mail, Settings are in the task switcher. So, it's not "Time Travel" as you put it. You don't loose the other apps you opened after the app you went back to, just the one you pressed "back" on.
This all boils down to the dehydration hack. Apps on the switcher act as if your have the hack enable on pre-mango while those you remove from the switcher get "dehydrated". The setting you mentioned has to do with bg services that allow apps to do stuff in the background. This is similiar to those little icons on your PC's task bar next to the clock such as anti-virus, adobe updater, winamp agent, etc. Stuff running in the background that might do something for the app but isn't necessarily needed. In anti-virus apps, that'd be live protection, which is good but severely impacts performance. The adobe updater checks for updates, close it, no automatic updates.

prjkthack said:
Don't forget you can also turn on Visual Voicemail in phone settings. Then you can get to your voice through the Phone tile, and by swiping over to voicemail.
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Not seeing that option in the phone portion of settings . . .

tiny17 said:
Not seeing that option in the phone portion of settings . . .
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Not sure if its carrier dependant or what. I have T-Mobile, and I also have the Visual Voicemail option on my account. Under "phone" settings, right under "Voicemail number", there is an option for me to turn on/off Visual voicemail.
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Part of what you said is true, but part isn't. Say I have IE, Messaging, Mail, Settings open in that order. I go back to Messaging & press "back". Now IE, Mail, Settings are in the task switcher. So, it's not "Time Travel" as you put it. You don't loose the other apps you opened after the app you went back to, just the one you pressed "back" on.
This all boils down to the dehydration hack. Apps on the switcher act as if your have the hack enable on pre-mango while those you remove from the switcher get "dehydrated". The setting you mentioned has to do with bg services that allow apps to do stuff in the background. This is similiar to those little icons on your PC's task bar next to the clock such as anti-virus, adobe updater, winamp agent, etc. Stuff running in the background that might do something for the app but isn't necessarily needed. In anti-virus apps, that'd be live protection, which is good but severely impacts performance. The adobe updater checks for updates, close it, no automatic updates.
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My example was a bit off, my mistake. The rest is still rather unfortunately true, as it stands now, the task switcher is just that, a task switcher. Apps do not run in the background actively, so there is no need to terminate these apps since they aren't really running to begin with, hence you can't really terminate them. The only way for apps to run in the background (or rather, for apps to do things in the background), would be to take advantage of the background tasks feature so that it can do something while not actively open. The only way to manage anything running in the background right now, is with the background tasks setting.

prjkthack said:
Not sure if its carrier dependant or what. I have T-Mobile, and I also have the Visual Voicemail option on my account. Under "phone" settings, right under "Voicemail number", there is an option for me to turn on/off Visual voicemail.
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I have it too, T-Mobile USA as well.

New bugs in 7.0?

I've received 7.0 update on my nexus 5x (no beta or other), installed and done a reset, i've two bugs: evry time i remove the voice assistant (i don't use it) the microphone icon on lockscreen disappears like i wanted, if i shutdown device that will reset even if in settings there's no voice assistant, removing telephone icon and changing again with microphone, next bug is the real impossibility to sync chrome with desktop one, i get no bookmarks or other, tryed manual sync etc, nothing, any suggest?
Edit: The weather widget can't be resized, only 3x1 even if 4x1 >>> 21/09 Solved with last update of news and weather app.
Edit 16/09: the sim menù that normally is in the app drawer appears and disappear on turn on/off device. (note: battery life is a bit better from one week use)

GTX90 said:
I've received 7.0 update on my nexus 5x (no beta or other), installed and done a reset, i've two bugs: evry time i remove the voice assistant (i don't use it) the microphone icon on lockscreen disappears like i wanted, if i shutdown device that will reset even if in settings there's no voice assistant, removing telephone icon and changing again with microphone, next bug is the real impossibility to sync chrome with desktop one, i get no bookmarks or other, tryed manual sync etc, nothing, any suggest?
Edit: also the weather widget can't be resized, only 3x1 even if 4x1
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Don't know about voice assistant bug as I use it but Chrome syncs up just fine. I see all my bookmarks, history, and tabs. Maybe try logging out of Chrome on your desktop and logging back in. And maybe the same thing for your phone.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Don't know about voice assistant bug as I use it but Chrome syncs up just fine. I see all my bookmarks, history, and tabs. Maybe try logging out of Chrome on your desktop and logging back in. And maybe the same thing for your phone.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
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Done loads of times, no sync

GTX90 said:
I've received 7.0 update on my nexus 5x (no beta or other), installed and done a reset, i've two bugs: evry time i remove the voice assistant (i don't use it) the microphone icon on lockscreen disappears like i wanted, if i shutdown device that will reset even if in settings there's no voice assistant, removing telephone icon and changing again with microphone, next bug is the real impossibility to sync chrome with desktop one, i get no bookmarks or other, tryed manual sync etc, nothing, any suggest?
Edit: also the weather widget can't be resized, only 3x1 even if 4x1
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Ever since I updated to Android 7.0 I was unable to use file transfer or ADB. This has to do with my phone for sure. Not the drivers on my PC.

My Wifi drops and reconnects whenever I take the phone out of my pocket and open an app that uses data. My data usage has gone up significantly with the Wifi drops. Appears there's others having problems on google product forums with no workaround at this time.
Any help would be appreciated!

GTX90 said:
I've received 7.0 update on my nexus 5x (no beta or other), installed and done a reset, i've two bugs: evry time i remove the voice assistant (i don't use it) the microphone icon on lockscreen disappears like i wanted, if i shutdown device that will reset even if in settings there's no voice assistant, removing telephone icon and changing again with microphone, next bug is the real impossibility to sync chrome with desktop one, i get no bookmarks or other, tryed manual sync etc, nothing, any suggest?
Edit: also the weather widget can't be resized, only 3x1 even if 4x1
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Chrome works for me but what weather widget are you talking about, I don't have any weather widget on my phone except for the New & Weather ones.

rpalmon said:
Ever since I updated to Android 7.0 I was unable to use file transfer or ADB. This has to do with my phone for sure. Not the drivers on my PC.
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Don't know about that, i don't file transfer with pc or ADB

werdnoynek said:
My Wifi drops and reconnects whenever I take the phone out of my pocket and open an app that uses data. My data usage has gone up significantly with the Wifi drops. Appears there's others having problems on google product forums with no workaround at this time.
Any help would be appreciated!
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Maybe you need a reset, i don't have that issue

Hadisultan said:
Chrome works for me but what weather widget are you talking about, I don't have any weather widget on my phone except for the New & Weather ones.
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Yeah that widget from news & weather app, if i choose only weather on 4x1 one i'm not able to resize, also isn't 4x1 but 3x1

werdnoynek said:
My Wifi drops and reconnects whenever I take the phone out of my pocket and open an app that uses data. My data usage has gone up significantly with the Wifi drops. Appears there's others having problems on google product forums with no workaround at this time.
Any help would be appreciated!
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One of possible fixes I can think of is to open your wifi settings and look for "Keep WiFi on during sleep". If you had set it up correctly before update it shouldn't change but who knows.
If above doesn't help, I think the problem is located somewhere in system files but other than searching for it, I suggest you to do a full wipe and clean install

GTX90 said:
Yeah that widget from news & weather app, if i choose only weather on 4x1 one i'm not able to resize, also isn't 4x1 but 3x1
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It appears 4x1 for me, just remember that the phones screen is 5x5 so even 4 can't fill it completely

werdnoynek said:
My Wifi drops and reconnects whenever I take the phone out of my pocket and open an app that uses data. My data usage has gone up significantly with the Wifi drops. Appears there's others having problems on google product forums with no workaround at this time.
Any help would be appreciated!
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I'm experiencing the same problem and I'm not the only one. Do a search on 'nougat wifi problem' and you'll get several hits. Unfortunately, no real solutions. Google advises a reset to factory settings, but that doesn't help everybody. They also tell to reset network settings. This does seem to help me, but when I start manually adding/saving networks and I hit 12, I will loose all visible networks and when I turn WiFi off and on, the device keeps on scanning for networks.
An "issue" (221056) was opened at code.google.com/p/android, but it's been more than 2 weeks and Google still hasn't resolved the situation...

Added a new bug on first message

Weather widget bug solved

I don't know if this is a bug or a feature but it actually annoys the hell out of me. While on the lockscreen, pulling down the notification shade (pulling down from the status bar) doesn't expose the quick toggle settings, instead it attempts to pull down the entire notification shade (if there are any notifications) or the quick settings panel. Cool. Whatever. Except the entire Notification Shade or Quick Settings panel comes down and then immediately retracts up. Swiping down from the status bar again results in the same behavior. I can do this over and over until I finally get angry and unlock the phone, even though all I wanted to do was turn off Bluetooth or something. So stupid.

Microphone lockscreen bug still on 7.1.1