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How to return EVO to Sprint store?

I'm one of the idiots who decided to flash the 2.2 pre-release before even looking for a rooted version. I'm a dumbass, I know. Being new to the whole ROM thing, I figured I would just revert my last nandroid when I was down playing with it not realizing thinking that without root it's impossible. I want to return my phone to store where I got it from a week ago. Is their a credible reason that I can get them to exchange it for? Thanks!
* hangs head in shame *

bludragon742 said:
I'm one of the idiots who decided to flash the 2.2 pre-release before even looking for a rooted version. I'm a dumbass, I know. Being new to the whole ROM thing, I figured I would just revert my last nandroid when I was down playing with it not realizing thinking that without root it's impossible. I want to return my phone to store where I got it from a week ago. Is their a credible reason that I can get them to exchange it for? Thanks!
* hangs head in shame *
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Tell them it keeps turning off. Tell them you have had multiple drop calls and that it freezes.

waxedstrong said:
Tell them it keeps turning off. Tell them you have had multiple drop calls and that it freezes.
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+1, they're gonna get a good refurb out of it anyways

Sounds like a plan, thanks. Now I just have to explain how I am running FroYo. (It updated itself?)

bludragon742 said:
Sounds like a plan, thanks. Now I just have to explain how I am running FroYo. (It updated itself?)
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Are they actually going to check that? *shrugs* Think of a backup just in case perhaps, but idk.

You can always just tell them that you downloaded it from HTC's website. There's nothing illicit about that.

bludragon742 said:
Sounds like a plan, thanks. Now I just have to explain how I am running FroYo. (It updated itself?)
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Sprint sent out the update to some ppl Fri which is how the development teams here got it some how... so just say you checked for updates and it downloaded.. plus your phone is not rooted so you will be ok.
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Thank y'all for your tips!
I took it back to where I bought it today and explained to them that "I got this update the other day and ever since I have been having random issues with calls dropping out and haven't been able to maintain a stable 4g connection." The guy, who had sold the phone to me initially, took it to the back for five minutes and then came up and said he couldn't find anything wrong and that I would just have to "live with it" until the next update is released. I tried the whole I'm switching carriers threat but that did not work. He actually suggested I do that if I wasn't satisfied! Now, I understand that he was trying to do his job and reduce churn (I worked for another Sprint store and that was how we were trained), but to suggest leaving is just plain ridiculous (we would get fired for that)!
Having already been shot down and knowing the answer was still probably going to be no, I went to another store ~20 miles away. The guy there told me the same thing about not being able to return it if they couldn't find anything wrong. To my surprise, however, he said that with the last update they had a lot of returns and for that reason he would take it back.
I am now sitting here staring at a brand-new 2.1/1.47 EVO! I am getting ready to root and see if I can restore my last nandroid. Having learned my lesson, I think I will wait until someone comes out with a new rooted version of the final OTA.

One click root?

Just wondering if there is a one click root for the Desire Z yet. I have the version from singapoore. Thanks.

From what I have seen, there is no definite one-click root solution as of now. Don't bet on this though, as I am not completely sure. The tutorial for gfree is easy though, just a little bit of typing.
BTW, this belongs in the Q&A section (for future reference).

Just use the rage/gfree tutorial found on the CyanogenMod Wiki and stay away from Visionary.
And for future reference, threads like these go in Q&A.

It seems like the closes to one click would be Lyriquidperfection's AMT thing for Windows. From thread posts it seems like it works.
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No there isn't...
Use the search...
Read the stickies...
Read some topics...
Many people have gone before you, do not disrespect them by not reading. If you do not read, you will awaken the XDA developers G2/Vision curse on your phone! It will never work again and you will always be stuck on STOCK!!!!

What everybody else said. It took me two full weeks of reading these boards before I felt comfortable enough to root my G2. Just search and read and read and read. Eventually you will get to a point where rooting is as easy as riding a bike. Good luck!
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Why is this still in the dev section?
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Ok thanks for the replys guys. I did do a search and found all the info on how to flash but just seems like a long process and easy to stuff up. Just wanted to make sure for sure there wasn't a one click solution as I made that mistake with my Desire before getting my Desire Z.
Cheers .

danielhtc said:
Ok thanks for the replys guys. I did do a search and found all the info on how to flash but just seems like a long process and easy to stuff up. Just wanted to make sure for sure there wasn't a one click solution as I made that mistake with my Desire before getting my Desire Z.
Cheers .
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The root process for the DZ should take no longer than 30 minutes. Just use a computer with ADB set up and download everything.

blackknightavalon said:
The root process for the DZ should take no longer than 30 minutes. Just use a computer with ADB set up and download everything.
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Spend a week planing it like I did and you can do it in about 10 minutes

cjward23 said:
Spend a week planing it like I did and you can do it in about 10 minutes
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Spend a week planning it and do it in ten minutes (total = 10,090 minutes) or read over the checklist a couple times and do it in a half-hour (total = 60 minutes). Let me think about that.

blackknightavalon said:
Spend a week planning it and do it in ten minutes (total = 10,090 minutes) or read over the checklist a couple times and do it in a half-hour (total = 60 minutes). Let me think about that.
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Lol, I've been waiting for a replacement phone for a month, so in anticipation I have read the rooting guide a lot.

cjward23 said:
Lol, I've been waiting for a replacement phone for a month, so in anticipation I have read the rooting guide a lot.
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Maybe you should call and ask what the status on it is.
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blackknightavalon said:
The root process for the DZ should take no longer than 30 minutes. Just use a computer with ADB set up and download everything.
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Can you kindly tell me if this guide will still work with 1.82.707.1 which is what I have. The guide is for 1.72 firmware. Cheers.

danielhtc said:
Can you kindly tell me if this guide will still work with 1.82.707.1 which is what I have. The guide is for 1.72 firmware. Cheers.
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I really don't know. You could always ask one of the devs.

blackknightavalon said:
I really don't know. You could always ask one of the devs.
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Did some reading around and came to the conclusion that it was ok as others had flashed from 1.82 versions.
I ended up using the guide here Root AND Downgrade Desire Z/G2(S-OFF/ClockWorkMod)
Had a few headches getting the gold card working but all went well and now its rooted and have installed the CyanogenMod and all going well so far .

Time to upgrade

Hey guys, Im ready to upgrade my phone from the DInc to probably the Charge mainly cause its free. I have had NO problems with my DInc, outstanding phone! It's just time to move on. I want to hand my phone down to my son but want to COMPLETELY wipe it. There are MANY MANY pics on it that are far to unfit for a 13 year old. Hell, for a 30 year old!!
Anyway, when I dig thru the files thru root access I still find pics from other roms that I thought were gone. What is the best way to do this? He will def want to keep it rooted and I wanna teach him the flashing process also. He is very techy, makes Daddy proud!
Thanks alot

20phileagles said:
Hey guys, Im ready to upgrade my phone from the DInc to probably the Charge mainly cause its free. I have had NO problems with my DInc, outstanding phone! It's just time to move on. I want to hand my phone down to my son but want to COMPLETELY wipe it. There are MANY MANY pics on it that are far to unfit for a 13 year old. Hell, for a 30 year old!!
Anyway, when I dig thru the files thru root access I still find pics from other roms that I thought were gone. What is the best way to do this? He will def want to keep it rooted and I wanna teach him the flashing process also. He is very techy, makes Daddy proud!
Thanks alot
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Best bet would be to wipe everything in the mounts and storage menu in recovery, and then reflash a fresh rom. That way you know you got everything deleted.

New To Android, but bricked my phone?

Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks

When you rooted did you NANDROID backup ? If not go into recovery and clear cache and then go into advanced and wipe delvik cache. reboot
If that fails go back into recovery and do a factory reset and you should be ok.

touchdownadrian said:
Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727401

This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone

z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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I disagree as long as you are willing to learn from the mistake all is good. I had a Samsung Exhibit II and deleted touch wiz launched (I was using go launcher) later I would do a factory reset and well... learned that system files do not get restored when you do a factory reset...oops
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I agree, we all were NOOBS at some point. That's the one thing I love about XDA is that with patience and the help of the users any noob can learn how to mod their devices. One piece of advice that I can offer is before you do any type of modding is READ and keep on READING. I have bricked the first device I ever rooted because I did not READ the forums as they are meant to be read.

z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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not fair
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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touchdownadrian said:
Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.

TheSeanTeam said:
It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.

lordazoroth said:
I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
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Same here. It took me months of researching on my vibrant before flashing my first rom (bionix 1.6 by teamwhiskey). As I progressed, I did brick left and right but I always managed to bring it back to life with my prior knowledge. Now I'm eagerly waiting for my computer to be done downloading the root files and get started.
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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+++++++1 on that.... DAMN talk about headaches....

dmarco said:
Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Yeah one of the only other IMPORTANT thinks i could add would be always do a factory reset before flashing roms.. some people like to flash "dirty" i wouldnt recommend it cause you will ALWAYS have issues maybe not in a hour but guaranteed you will... but knowledge is power dude.. i two read for about 36 hours before rooting my phone.. i rooted my wifes phone days after a rooted mine back in the day it only took like 15 mins.. another thing let phone sit 10 mins before ya play with it... gotta let the cache settle... the ten min wait is well worth it.. ive been doing it that way since the vibrant bro.. happy flashing and welcome..

I read constantly things change hourly like when that new leaked kernels came out for sgs2 and the emmc was trashed never to come back from a brick again. To anyone that cares if you love your phone read more than just the root and flash stuff learn what makes your phone tick from the factory hardware software and added crap from your carrier it all play's a part in the end result. Its as easy as you make it.
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Nabeel10 said:
Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Ive passed down two vibrants (both rooted) to my sons so they can learn to flash roms and everything else that comes from the joys of root.
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[Q] Rooted to mk4 Smoothest note 2/3

Hey gus new to the website i had a few question, not new to root phone been doing this since htc evo4g. Here the issue so i rooted my note 2 on sprint flashed the MK4 Smmothest note 2/3 rom it was working just find for like 3 days then it started to reboot numerous times. So i clearned the rom unrooted then went back to stock mc3 i thinks that the stock 4.1.2 rerooted and everything was find. Did the cleaning of the dev and cache like the forum said so then my phone powerd off and never came back on. I tired everything different batteries, hard reset, even took it to sprint which they change the usb port and everything nothing work..when i plug the phone on the charger the battery logo didn't even appear. SO would this be sudden death Syndrome. Ive brick devices before but nothing like this happen. I would port this to the forum but since im new i can't Ive search the differnt forum and never seen this post before would love to get some of the Season vets opinion...good news sprint is getting me a new one in two days but thats days with out my phone..
I was able to get it booted to unroot the device and tried to flash the stock firmware but i got that dumb message that in the kies compter program that says to trouble shoot but the phone will not come back on or but in to download or recovery mode please help anyone

SMH never mind
gamble27 said:
Hey gus new to the website i had a few question, not new to root phone been doing this since htc evo4g. Here the issue so i rooted my note 2 on sprint flashed the MK4 Smmothest note 2/3 rom it was working just find for like 3 days then it started to reboot numerous times. So i clearned the rom unrooted then went back to stock mc3 i thinks that the stock 4.1.2 rerooted and everything was find. Did the cleaning of the dev and cache like the forum said so then my phone powerd off and never came back on. I tired everything different batteries, hard reset, even took it to sprint which they change the usb port and everything nothing work..when i plug the phone on the charger the battery logo didn't even appear. SO would this be sudden death Syndrome. Ive brick devices before but nothing like this happen. I would port this to the forum but since im new i can't Ive search the differnt forum and never seen this post before would love to get some of the Season vets opinion...good news sprint is getting me a new one in two days but thats days with out my phone..
I was able to get it booted to unroot the device and tried to flash the stock firmware but i got that dumb message that in the kies compter program that says to trouble shoot but the phone will not come back on or but in to download or recovery mode please help anyone
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So i figured it out my self yesterday, but it looks like no one here knew what i was talking about or just no help..SMH why did i post this anyway. IM more helpful for myself anyway i learn how to removed KNOX and remove the voided warranty on a device and return it back to MC2 for any who wants to know PM me I will walk you thru im not posting anything here any more but i will post help to those who need my help doing so also I install MK4 smoothest room with no reboots and added s pen sound with no hiccup anyway those looking for help and your new don't post stuff here cause all your going to get in views no reply BUT I GOT YOU JUST PM ME CAUSE THESE FOOL WONT HELP

There are many threads about doing all this already. Want to know why no one wants to help? It is because a simple search will give you all the info you need.
This might seem rude but is important. No one wants to hold your hand when everything you need is already here on xda. If it would have been a new issue you would have gotten plenty of help.
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not a big fan of hand holding
jlmancuso said:
There are many threads about doing all this already. Want to know why no one wants to help? It is because a simple search will give you all the info you need.
This might seem rude but is important. No one wants to hold your hand when everything you need is already here on xda. If it would have been a new issue you would have gotten plenty of help.
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I just wanted to see if any one had experience this phone not walk me thru the process i feel im experience enough to follow directions, or command..but i get what your say'n it just seems people say where here to help but even look at the post and disregard the message but its water under the bridge now i figured out how to fix it and a number of other things

gamble27 said:
So i figured it out my self yesterday, but it looks like no one here knew what i was talking about or just no help..SMH why did i post this anyway. IM more helpful for myself anyway i learn how to removed KNOX and remove the voided warranty on a device and return it back to MC2 for any who wants to know PM me I will walk you thru im not posting anything here any more but i will post help to those who need my help doing so also I install MK4 smoothest room with no reboots and added s pen sound with no hiccup anyway those looking for help and your new don't post stuff here cause all your going to get in views no reply BUT I GOT YOU JUST PM ME CAUSE THESE FOOL WONT HELP
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Hey I need help with this. Same thing is happening to me!

cashdude1971 said:
Hey I need help with this. Same thing is happening to me!
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Read this tread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539227

gamble27 said:
So i figured it out my self yesterday, but it looks like no one here knew what i was talking about or just no help..SMH why did i post this anyway. IM more helpful for myself anyway i learn how to removed KNOX and remove the voided warranty on a device and return it back to MC2 for any who wants to know PM me I will walk you thru im not posting anything here any more but i will post help to those who need my help doing so also I install MK4 smoothest room with no reboots and added s pen sound with no hiccup anyway those looking for help and your new don't post stuff here cause all your going to get in views no reply BUT I GOT YOU JUST PM ME CAUSE THESE FOOL WONT HELP
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I know how you feel, sometimes when I look for help here I get it right away.... other times its like crickets. I do use the search I can never find what I am looking for and when I do find it. I wonder if it still is good information w/ current firmware updates. My advise to you is to hand around and help people who need it. I just got my NOTE 2 ( my htc one cracked so I sold it) and Im learning as I go..

jlmancuso said:
Read this tread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539227
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Thanks but Kingo Root does not work. I did some research and some Sprint versions of the Note 2 the Kingo Root does not work.

Something I did
cashdude1971 said:
Hey I need help with this. Same thing is happening to me!
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Sorry for the dealy just came off 24 duty..well firat make sure the battery you have is charged I know the link the guy gave before is good but thats if your phone will turn on..what i did was hold the power button and the home button and volume down and that trigger the phone into download mode.. and if it don't on the first tryn then take the battery out hold the power button and the home button to hard rest and then afterwards hold the power button for 1 minute then try the firat step sometimes it take a few but its like a override so to say..once you get it back install and factory MC2 rom to get it back to stock so you can start from the beginning... One thing i notice with this rom there alot of reboots so what i do i reboot my phone at least 3 to 4 times a day just to keep it stable hope this helps

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Tiltmfc said:
I know how you feel, sometimes when I look for help here I get it right away.... other times its like crickets. I do use the search I can never find what I am looking for and when I do find it. I wonder if it still is good information w/ current firmware updates. My advise to you is to hand around and help people who need it. I just got my NOTE 2 ( my htc one cracked so I sold it) and Im learning as I go..
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one thing i found out if you ever need a starting point find a reliable MC2 stock rom which i use a Kies Official stock rom and have mobile odin pro to get back to stock asap when ever your realizing something going haywire while your away from home..always when your ealize you have a good thing going with a custom Rom make a back up on your external sd car and copy on your PC.. these thing help me from having too many issues.also if you get on a stock 4.3 rom and what to down grade follow the forum {ROM}{TEAM REJECTZ}{LORJAY589}(MK4 Rom Odex/Deodex 12/2)(Note3 Rom Post #6 1/12) this will help you remove knox.. then you want to flash a offical MC2 4.1.2 just in-case you have a warranty issues with 4.3. You might know things thing but i share as much as i can cause i forget alot my self..lol:laugh: