[Q] Is there no way? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there no way whatsoever to use HTC Sense Widgets with other launchers? What differences are there between them and normal Widgets, that makes them unusable without the HTC launcher? Can't they be ported?

I am curious too.

although android is open source. HTC Sence is not, htc have spent many hours making sure they wont work with other launchers, and as it is no source code it cannot be ported

I'm sure there is some way of tricking it into thinking that it's the default HTC launcher?

kamranh3 said:
I'm sure there is some way of tricking it into thinking that it's the default HTC launcher?
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Why bother? what irreplaceable sense widgets am i missing?

ghostofcain said:
Why bother? what irreplaceable sense widgets am i missing?
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I would say the calendar because I just love the way it works and looks, but LP copied it well, so I'm good.

A lot of work to try and reverse engineer rosie and the widgets. For all we know half the widget code is inside rosie itself which would explain why the widgets only run on rosie.
Maybe someone could invest considerable time in trying to reverse engineer it but why bother? I'm not even sure such an endeavour wouldn't be in violation of copyright law our patent law.
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Someone Swyped my idea.

I guess none will reverse it, since it's totally closed source and the best devs don't use sense at all.
But there arrrrr replacements for nearly all sense stuff in the market. Miui clock and animated weather pro are great replacements for the clock.
Also, if you made the first step to get rid of sense, also take the second and use a non sense rom like cyanogenmod.you will love the speed and added functionality
Swyped with cyanogenmod 7 powered HTC Desire HD. Excuse typos.

Thanx for the info
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Removing parts of sense

I am getting a Desire soon and personally I would rather remove Sense UI, but this is not longer possible the easy way.
Can anyone explain if you can remove sense another way? I have heard people say to use Launcher2 or HelixLauncher to get the 3D app drawer and the nexus one launcher. Can anyone confirm this works?
Thanks!
Yep if your install either you can make them default and use them instead but it will still have the Sense theming of all the apps / status bar etc and obv the HTC widgets wont work
ok thanks or the quick reply
so if i use either of these launchers i will not be able to use HTC widgets?
and when/if the desire gets rooted i'll be able to stick a nexus one rom on?
has anyone had any experience with either of these launchers on the desire?
im new to android so i apologise for the noobish questions
Not a problem
Nope you won't be able to use the HTC Widgets... but you can launch the HTC Sense launcher at any time and get access to your widgets though it's a bit of hassle doing that everytime hence i'm gonna stick with htc sense launcher myself.
Both the nexus launcher and helix work great on my Desire, no problems as far as i've been using it.
Not sure about putting then nexus rom though, sorry
thanks for the info.
so installing launcher2 enables the 3D app drawer from the nexus one?
just to clarify lol
Yep the home screen looks like the nexus one and you get the 3D drawer with fades. It looks pretty good! I just wish the widgets still worked then it would be perfect.
thanks again for your quick reply
so where do i download this launcher 2? from the android market when i get the phone?
sorry so many questions!
Not a problem,
Helix you can get from the market but launcher2 you will need to get from somewhere else but if you search these forums you will find one you can install no problem
awesome, thanks again.
one last request: which version did you use? i've searched here and elsewhere and each version is different and im not sure which to use
I'm not sure to be honest, if you know how to check then I can tell you?

HTC Sense Apps on CyanogenMod 6 - Possible?

Sorry for the NOOB question, but does anyone know if it is possible to install any of the HTC Sense apps on top of CyanogenMod 6?
I love the CyanogenMod ROM's, but there are also some things I like about HTC Sense too. In an ideal world, I'd like the following:
- CyanogenMod 6
- HTC Sense E-mail App
- HTC Sense Widgets
- AOSP Standard everywhere else... Contacts, SMS, etc.
Is this possible?
No impossible but you can find similar apps for each
Short and to the point answer is....
Nope, if you want sense, then run a sense rom. But you can use google to maybe find other applications that can mimick what you want to accomplish.
hedge34 said:
Short and to the point answer is....
Nope, if you want sense, then run a sense rom. But you can use google to maybe find other applications that can mimick what you want to accomplish.
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Yes, I'm using Fancy Widget which is one of the most important... I just wish there was something like the Sense e-mail app. The AOSP e-mail app, isn't as user friendly... I've looked online and tried K9 (no good for Exchange, which is what I'm using) and Touchdown (doesn't integrate well with the rest of the UI)
Do you know if any of the Sense Froyo ROM's are supporting multiple exchange accounts yet? I know Cyanogen's does, but it's not Sense
No. Most HTC apps require the framework from a sense based rom. And the HTC widgets only work with Sense.
For future reference, questions like this should be posted in the general or apps forums, or if you really need to post it in the development section at least ask the question in the appropriate rom's thread. Not trying to be an a$$ but thought I would throw that out there before anyone jumped all over you.
Did this really just get asked? again?
Q&A sounds like theright place to post this.
As other have already stated, try the market place for similar apps.
Cyanogen is open source so asking for sense apps is like asking for a pair shackles to go with your get out jail free card.
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And i quote from the man himself......
"THIS IS NOT HTC SENSE AND NEVER WILL BE. DO NOT ASK ABOUT IT IN THIS THREAD. THANK YOU."
if you know anything about cyanogen, which you should since you are using his rom he will never ever ever ever ever use anything but stock android thats one of the reasons that his roms are the best, plus he is the pioneer for android customization!!!
i dont believe the OP was asking for sense to be integrated into CM, just if htc widgets would still work, and if not for good replacements. Not everyone knows that they need the sense framework to function.
Some have been ported over.
Search around.
Other's generally don;'t work. Sprint apps work regardless of framework.
Yeah, I can understand where the OP's coming from. I love the CM ROMs, but there's a couple parts of Sense that I wish I could install piecemeal on top of it.
It would be ridiculous to imply that Cyanogen should ever incorporate them into his ROM since the lack of proprietary crap is his biggest attraction, but at the end of the day I still miss that stupid HTC weather widget.
scooter185 said:
i dont believe the OP was asking for sense to be integrated into CM, just if htc widgets would still work, and if not for good replacements. Not everyone knows that they need the sense framework to function.
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That's exactly right Scooter, thanks...

[Q] HTC People/Dialler apk or zip available?

Hey guys,
Just wondering if there is a HTC People or HTC Dialler app which is extracted from the HTC ROM's either in apk format or as a zip which I can flash? I've searched the forum but not found anything - wondering if they can be extracted since I assume that they can work without HTC Sense (e.g. when using different launchers)
I want to use OpenDesire but don't like the stock Android contacts/dialler.
Any help would be appreciated.
Hey, you can use Launcher Pro for sense like widgets. Otherwise sense widgets cannot use with default launcher on froyo.
kubilay.demir said:
Hey, you can use Launcher Pro for sense like widgets. Otherwise sense widgets cannot use with default launcher on froyo.
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Hi - thanks for your answer - I know that I can use Launcher Pro etc but what i'm really interested in is the actual phone app and the contacts app which are on the HTC ROM's. When using a Sense ROM, if i change launcher to, for example, Launcher Pro, then i can still use the HTC Phone and Contacts app - thats what i'm after on a non-Sense ROM.
The only sense integration is with Facebook Sync I think - which I could live without.
there is no option using sense widgets on froynly with launcher pro but i dont like it,i like sense widgets but i dont like sense,only widgets that i like.
I like to know if there's a way too, I don't like android's contacts\dialer either.
As far as I'm aware, the HTC dialler and phone .apk are too deeply integrated with sense to work as a standalone app on non-sense roms. Simply removing the apk won't work.
rolfd said:
As far as I'm aware, the HTC dialler and phone .apk are too deeply integrated with sense to work as a standalone app on non-sense roms. Simply removing the apk won't work.
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Cheers Rolfd - that would explain why no one has done it!
Does anyone know of any alternatives which offer smart dialling by typing in the name, etc?
Market: Dialer One
You could try Dialer One on the market.
Edit: I'm too slow!
Thanks guys - I'll try Dialler One on my next visit to Senseless Froyo!
Dialer one is the best in the market I think as a replacement for HTC's dialer however you could also check out "NubDial" some people prefer that.
beidl said:
Market: Dialer One
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Yes "Dialer One" is providing very "Sensi"ble way to use phonepad. Thanks

[REQ] Droid X ROM?

There was talk of IncredibleDoes making a Droid X port for the DINC and EVO, not sure if that's still in the works or not. I don't have the tools or skills needed to do it myself. Anybody like to take a shot?
Err... this has a droidx theme?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758197
Also wrong forum, etc
Yeah, I saw him say that too... it's been weeks now and I haven't heard anything about it since. Maybe he has updates on his twitter. I wouldn't know though, I don't use twitter.
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I think porting the Droid X system would be VERY difficult. Porting sense to the G1 and N1 wasn't very difficult because they each had a sister phone with sense to port from (Hero and Desire respectively).
Porting the Blur framework would be a whole other beast because the Droid X, 2, etc that feature "Ninja" Blur are very different from a hardware standpoint. The framework has not only the software API stuff for Sense/Blur/TouchWiz but also a lot of the hardware support for things like cell, wifi, camera, bluetooth.
I think we would have a much better chance of people creating clones of the widgets, launcher, etc., the way that people have cloned much of the Sense interface (LP+ widgets, Beautiful Widgets/Fancy Widget Sense clock).
Systemfraud said:
Yeah, I saw him say that too... it's been weeks now and I haven't heard anything about it since. Maybe he has updates on his twitter. I wouldn't know though, I don't use twitter.
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You can read someones twitter feed without joining twitter, as long as they don't mark it as private (most don't).

no sense

Hello friends!
I've just received my desire und would like to know if there's a way to uninstall
Or disable the HTC sense.
I really dislike the arced bottom with the apps, telephone and add buttons and would love to get rid of it all together.
I prefer the way Android looks on The galaxy I9000.
Can I make it happen?
Thanks ahead.
Cm
Super Fail of a thread...
Go check out the ROM section and you'll see plenty of non-Sense ROMs waiting for you
EddyOS said:
Super Fail of a thread...
Go check out the ROM section and you'll see plenty of non-Sense ROMs waiting for you
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Thanks for the quick reply. I used custom roms over two years on my x1,
But for now I would like to modify my OS without flashing a Rom.
Plus I have no computer available at the time.
So no luck?
If you'd like to change the dock bar at the bottom, try installing LauncherPro. It'll run over the top of Sense so you'll lose the Sense widgets, but I think the paid version offers similar widgets. http://www.launcherpro.com/
You can use the process manager in the Astro File Manager to kill the HTC Sense process. The default android launcher should then appear on the phones "home" screen.
To get HTC Sense back, reboot your phone.
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You can use the process manager in the Astro File Manager to kill the HTC Sense process. The default android launcher should then appear on the phones "home" screen.
To get HTC Sense back, reboot your phone.
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Lol'd.
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Why did you not buy a galaxy s or a nexus one if you don't like sense ui?
ste1164 said:
Why did you not buy a galaxy s or a nexus one if you don't like sense ui?
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Well i like to choose. I thought getting rid of it is easier than adding it,
Plus this phone was cheaper for me.
As for the thread:
Using launcher pro really does it for me, so Thanks a lot.
You've helped much.
i think the "launcher pro" app is the easyest way to chance the style and its faster than sense

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