Hi guys. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do I install the 2.3 Android while i have the 2.2? Where to download and how to install it?
You can't as it's currently for the Nexus S and soon to be the Nexus One
You can get a cutom made 2.3 ROM by looking at Oxygen in the ROM forum
Thanks. Well since I don't know the risks of "rooting" or installing custom roms, I want to ask you: is it worth it? Do I lose my phones warranty?
At this point the risk of rooting is minimal (but still there is a risk) and there are good tutorial you can use. Especially this one: Turkeys' Ultimate Guide to Root Desire.
Technicality you lose your warranty when you root your phone but there are ways to revert that. However that is not possible on every phone and depends on the branding and software version.
There is some great development on the gingerbread roms, but they don't full work jet, so at this point I would not root my device just for a gingerbread rom.
On the other hand there are also enough other great froyo roms to try out.
But first thing to do is write down your software info and check if you can find a matching RUU here.
I bought a Desire HD from H.K. The rom is RUU_Ace_HTC_Asia_WWE_1.32.707.6.
I tried to cook the rom become Taiwanese rom step by step.
Using visionary to temproot ===>prmeroot===> s-off
Everything is fine.
However,I cook the wrong rom RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3.
I think it becomes UK rom.
Now, I want to do the same step to cook my DHD to be Taiwanese rom again but it doesn't work.
When I use Visionary to do temproot, it takes too long time.
The screen comes black and hard to use.
I did't Visionary several times, however it still doesn't work.
Can any one help me. please.
So I guess your phone is 1.72 firmware now?
Bad luck you can't root it.
Yes, I am 1.72 now.
so, Does it mean there are no way to root now?
There are no way to root now. U must wait for the solution.
It bewilders me how people manage to read the threads on how to root their phones, but never manage with the threads that tell them not to flash the 1.72 ROM's. I fail to understand how they miss the various threads.
I can imagine what a disaster it is to overlook this.
So if they officially release the android 2.2.1 update for my region and I update to it, it will also update the software to the 1.72 ROM.
Does this mean I will not be able to root (and therefore flash) to other ROM until someone here figures out a way to break it?
daysonp said:
I can imagine what a disaster it is to overlook this.
So if they officially release the android 2.2.1 update for my region and I update to it, it will also update the software to the 1.72 ROM.
Does this mean I will not be able to root (and therefore flash) to other ROM until someone here figures out a way to break it?
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When it comes do not install it. Better to use a custom rom which is based off of it. Such as the one in my sig. Then you get the best of both worlds - rooted Android 2.2.1.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
liam08 said:
It bewilders me how people manage to read the threads on how to root their phones, but never manage with the threads that tell them not to flash the 1.72 ROM's. I fail to understand how they miss the various threads.
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Yep, I thank I didn't do much homework so I got my bad luck.
I just wonder if someone can help me to fix this trouble.
Maybe this is a chance to help me improve my English.
haha..
got it! but is it worth upgrading to the 2.2.1 update? Any performance gains? I'm not sure about what rom should I be on for fastest speed, stability with the sense ui?
daysonp said:
got it! but is it worth upgrading to the 2.2.1 update? Any performance gains? I'm not sure about what rom should I be on for fastest speed, stability with the sense ui?
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Difficult to say....it should have some better performance and the camera should work a bit better.
however, in my case, when recording in HD I still have some lags sometimes (although they seem to be less in both length and frequency).
As far as normal performance, I was running a OC kernel which I cannot use now anymore, so performance will not be noticeably better (might even be a bit less).
as Dr.m0x said: get a custom rom with 1.72 integrated...works fine and you keep root
Any news? Or nothing yet ? So no rooted phone for those who updated 2.2.1...
I have had rooted phone with stock ROM and when appeared some update of OS, I installed it and then I found out, that rooting no longer works I must now only wait.
Has any from cooked ROMs better camera software? The stock camera app is OK, but I am missing possibility to set JPEG compression, which is in my oppinion too high and destroyes fine details in each picture.
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I have had rooted phone with stock ROM and when appeared some update of OS, I installed it and then I found out, that rooting no longer works I must now only wait.
Has any from cooked ROMs better camera software? The stock camera app is OK, but I am missing possibility to set JPEG compression, which is in my oppinion too high and destroyes fine details in each picture.
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It has been possible to downgrade your firmware and then gain root for a week now. There is a sticky topic in the development section.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
And is there any way to backup my unrooted phone?
As far as I know there is not a way to do a full backup when the phone is unrooted. I fell for 1.72. Luckily I already did a titanium backup not long prior. The instructions given on the developers area of the forum are good though. The process does work.
I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
As i am new at these things too, i will try to answer some of your questions.
1. Cyanogenmod is based on AOST source, which is main android source, while Revolution, LeeDrOID and rest are based on HTC source.
2. To be able to flash cooked ROM your Desire HD needs to be rooted.
Full step-by-step guide is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11557769
3. Themes for one ROM might work on other, but are not recommended.
4. Check the guide in point 2.
5. Same as above.
6. I think you got that right.
I hope i helped you a bit.Cheers
glenvarun said:
I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
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Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also. You should probably ask the mod developer if his mod is compatable with another ROM, but I think CM7 being Gingerbread and ARHD3.2 being Froyo, the chances are slim. S-OFF is "Security OFF". HTC introduced a level of security which was supposed to make the system "read only" for anyone but them to prevent custom ROMs, kernels and ultimately - overclocking, which potentialy can damage your device. Luckily thy didn't do a good job on that, so the developers found a workaround. Flashing is writing a new ROM, kernel or a set of system files in your phone. And lastly, you are correct about the sense/non-sense stuff.
You can find good guides in the developement section about rooting, S-OFF (both radio and eng), flashing ROMs, etc. Bear in mind though that if your software version is 1.72, you'll have to downgrade first to get to the rootable 1.32
First of all thanks for the help.
I suppose flash means to install. Also the guide you gave me tells how to put s-off but i wanted to know what does s-off mean??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Custom Roms are there to help and inprove the things...
Overclocking is running an hardware to something which it was not designed for...So it could harm the phone (Does not mean that it always does, there are guys who are running the overclock phone without problem).
Custom Roms are just the installed ROM so if you flash one rom and don't like it replace it with another one..before flashing read the instruction and flash (I was only able to run official rom for 2 hours, after that I rooted and installed CM7...
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
Yes you can revert your handset back to complete factory settings by running a suitable RUU (Rom Update Utility).
This will restore everything, except Radio S-OFF, back to HTC defaults. You could then send your handset away to be repaired, etc...
glenvarun said:
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
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Rom depends on your choice, Revolution is based on HTC framework (sense and no-sense both available), 3.2 is froyo based, 4.X is gingerbread but its in beta..YOu will get the stock applications like video player, camera etc..
CM7 is also under development, RC2 is stable version, It is based on AOSP GingerBread...has a lot of modifications....I use this one....Just my preferance...
You can try both and see which one you like...
About warrenty, yes, you need to restore the RUU to claim it, but there are enough thread around which will tell you how to do that...
The only thing is I haven't seen the RUU for India, there is one for Asia and version number is close so that can work...in case it is required, or...before flashing custom rom create a backup for your official rom and save that backup...so that you can use that to come back to official rom...
Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
tkolev said:
Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also.
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Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
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Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
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Some people have had trouble with the gps lock on CM7, not all, as I for one haven't got any problems with neither of the RCs nor the nightlys. I'm running nightly build 20 atm. And there is a fix for the gps included in the latest two nightlys so it's not a problem anymore.
just read a lot man, all informations you want is spread out there! in beggining this thread helps a lot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
hope it can help! =o)
glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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No, overclocking to a reasonable extend should not harm your phone. I'm running an overclocked kernel (1.2 GHz) and it has no negative effect on my phone. In the manufacturing process there are deviations from the design and Qualcomm has rated the processor which is in our DHDs to 1GHz. This means that most processors can safely handle higher frequencies, but the higher they rate their production, more units will have to be scrapped. I think it's quite safe to go for 1.2 or even 1.5 (if you really need it and monitor the teperature closely) but I would never run on 1.8 GHz. I just wanted to explain why HTC decided to go for locked internal memory. There is a reason for that, not just because they are mean control freaks... oh wait those were Apple .
BigMrB said:
Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
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I didn't know that you can install a custom recovery without S-OFF. Or a custom ROM without a custom recovery. Anyway there are many users which followed the guide in the developement section (including me) and did just fine (thanks to the great tools made by jkoljo and all the help we get in this great forum). Ultimately is anyone's decision what to do with his/her own phone.
I'm gonna s-off this weekend after I've fixed my custom recovery
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App
Guess u guys are confusing between Radio S-Off and Eng-S-OFF.
You can't install a custom recovery without Eng-SOFF, hence u can't install custom Roms.
There is a one click S-Off for Eng-Soff & Radio S-OFf which u can find in Dev Section.
This should do the work quickly and in a painless way...
Personally i would recommend to go for MIUI or CM7...
All your questions have been answered clearly.
Just one warning regarding the warranty. It's possible to revert to stock EXCEPT if one hard key is needed and it doesn't work.
If on DHD all can be done via adb then it's ok (never checked).
I'm just coming from HD2 and without vol- key you were fu**ed (can't launch the bootloader but OS bootable).
Anyway never stopped me to install custom roms the first day
Hello xda people!
I have some kinda noob questions about almost everything, please help me as I didnt really find something about it yet.
Q1: Radios
I have searched many internets but I didnt really find an explanation of the differences of the radio versions from Desire z. What are those?
I guess its all about energy efficiency and stability like higher version is better. Is that true?
Q2: Stock Roms w/ Root
Are any 1.72 stock Roms out there with root?
As I understood the ruus overwrite everything, would it work to just take the rom out of it and flash that without replacing recovery and boot. Then till what version does gfree work?
Im sorry but this whole Android and HTC thing is extremely confusing.
(Remind me if my post doesnt make sense, as I am now finally going to sleep after 3 days.)
peace
newbie here to all this..
last week I finally rooted my DHD to turn s-on to s-off and after days of reading post after post I finally got it done, anyway whilst doing this it has now downgraded my phone software to an older version. 2.3.3 sense 2.1
can someone point me in the right direction to where I can download the stock updated rom for this phone or is there a custom rom that's even better than the stock one that I could use.? ive been looking in the Android Development section but there's way too many to go through & I don't want anything to fancy just stock HTC looking will do just great.. plus I don't want to run the risk of bricking the phone as im very new to this sort of thing so can do without trying different roms out as I was happy with the HTC look of the phone... and is it easy to upgrade as its taken me near on a week of reading to find the b*lls to root it.. LOL
thanks for any help..
BaRoN
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BaRoN30s said:
newbie here to all this..
last week I finally rooted my DHD to turn s-on to s-off and after days of reading post after post I finally got it done, anyway whilst doing this it has now downgraded my phone software to an older version. 2.3.3 sense 2.1
can someone point me in the right direction to where I can download the stock updated rom for this phone or is there a custom rom that's even better than the stock one that I could use.? ive been looking in the Android Development section but there's way too many to go through & I don't want anything to fancy just stock HTC looking will do just great.. plus I don't want to run the risk of bricking the phone as im very new to this sort of thing so can do without trying different roms out as I was happy with the HTC look of the phone... and is it easy to upgrade as its taken me near on a week of reading to find the b*lls to root it.. LOL
thanks for any help..
BaRoN
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Best thing if you want Stock ROM is Android Revolution HD, BEST stock based ROM (Sense 3.0, 2.3.5 Gingerbread)
Although you might like to experiment with other Android versions, like AOSP (exactly as Google intended it), AOKP (slightly modified), CyanogenMod (Different thing altogether) or even MIUI (if you like the iPhone's simplicity)