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[Q] Help? :(

Well, ill start off by saying "Im james! "
I recently made the switch to android because i absolutely love the capabilities and the functionality. I got myself an Incredible. Rooted and and installed Redemptive revolution and got sucky battery life. Then yesterday it starts raining and gets really cloudy. I lose my 3g coverage about an hour into the storm. Im guessing this is normal? Well i decide to install Myn's two point two, with kinxklick's LV kernel in an attempt to get better battery life.
My current standing: Im running Myn's 2.2 with LV kernel and my 3G is still timing out and crappy. My brother's Dx gets Fair signal during the storm, should i be worried about my phone? Ive wiped several times and i still get like 60 kbps down while he gets above 400 kbps.
So my questions are:
1. Is there something wrong with my incredible? Or is the X's signal generally better then the HTC's?
2. What ROM and kernel combination would give me the best battery life?
Its at :
Android System: 70 %
Display: 16%
Cell Standby: 14%
During the time writing this, my 3G has dropped at least 6 times. Is it normally like this during cloudy rainy weather?
Thank you in advance, and i Love the site by the way!

jamespweb1503 said:
Well, ill start off by saying "Im james! "
I recently made the switch to android because i absolutely love the capabilities and the functionality. I got myself an Incredible. Rooted and and installed Redemptive revolution and got sucky battery life. Then yesterday it starts raining and gets really cloudy. I lose my 3g coverage about an hour into the storm. Im guessing this is normal? Well i decide to install Myn's two point two, with kinxklick's LV kernel in an attempt to get better battery life.
My current standing: Im running Myn's 2.2 with LV kernel and my 3G is still timing out and crappy. My brother's Dx gets Fair signal during the storm, should i be worried about my phone? Ive wiped several times and i still get like 60 kbps down while he gets above 400 kbps.
So my questions are:
1. Is there something wrong with my incredible? Or is the X's signal generally better then the HTC's?
2. What ROM and kernel combination would give me the best battery life?
Its at :
Android System: 70 %
Display: 16%
Cell Standby: 14%
During the time writing this, my 3G has dropped at least 6 times. Is it normally like this during cloudy rainy weather?
Thank you in advance, and i Love the site by the way!
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Lou's #4 is kicking ass with both his and warm.... fast and smooth, battery seems to be killer also.

Your going to heat this 50 times, but this is in the wrong place.
Nothing is (probably) wrong with your phone and its best to try several combinations. I am using MIUI to great success.
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Oh, one more thing. The X has 2 antennas. The incredible has only one.
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0) This forum is for discussion of development issues, not "which is right for me" or "how to use" issues... this should probably be posted in Q&A or General.
However, I hate leaving a question unanswered, so:
1) Signal strength is not related to which ROM you are using, and rather which radio. Look in settings->about phone->Software Info->Baseband version. The 3 current radios are 2.15.00.07.28, 2.15.00.09.01, and 2.15.00.11.19. Depending on your location, one of these three is the version you should use. BE CAREFUL - FLASHING ROMS IS VERY SAFE, BUT AN ERROR FLASHING THE RADIO WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
You could also try *228 to update your roaming as well.
2) This is constantly debated. Typically, horrible battery life is the result of an app running constantly or keeping the phone from sleeping. How does your awake time compare to your up time? Personally, I find that CyanogenMod 6.1 with incredibleK's kernel #18 gives me best battery life... I usually charge it every night to be safe, but can comfortably go two days of moderate use without draining the battery.

igknighted said:
0) This forum is for discussion of development issues, not "which is right for me" or "how to use" issues... this should probably be posted in Q&A or General.
However, I hate leaving a question unanswered, so:
1) Signal strength is not related to which ROM you are using, and rather which radio. Look in settings->about phone->Software Info->Baseband version. The 3 current radios are 2.15.00.07.28, 2.15.00.09.01, and 2.15.00.11.19. Depending on your location, one of these three is the version you should use. BE CAREFUL - FLASHING ROMS IS VERY SAFE, BUT AN ERROR FLASHING THE RADIO WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
You could also try *228 to update your roaming as well.
2) This is constantly debated. Typically, horrible battery life is the result of an app running constantly or keeping the phone from sleeping. How does your awake time compare to your up time? Personally, I find that CyanogenMod 6.1 with incredibleK's kernel #18 gives me best battery life... I usually charge it every night to be safe, but can comfortably go two days of moderate use without draining the battery.
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Sorry about the wrong forum, but im in the middle of flashing skyraider (3.5?) with King klicks #6. As for awake time and uptime, it used to be roughly the same. Give or take a few min. Ive speed tested on warm, and it still hasnt passed the 100 kbps mark Hows Cyanogen running for everything else?
Also, i cant get passed 1x on skyraider, it stays on "Turning on"
My radio is 2.15.00.07.38
Double check, my awake time is exactly the same as my up time.(Edit: Nevermind, i locked it and now the uptime is 2 min more than the awake time.)

jamespweb1503 said:
Sorry about the wrong forum, but im in the middle of flashing skyraider (3.5?) with King klicks #6. As for awake time and uptime, it used to be roughly the same. Give or take a few min. Ive speed tested on warm, and it still hasnt passed the 100 kbps mark Hows Cyanogen running for everything else?
Also, i cant get passed 1x on skyraider, it stays on "Turning on"
My radio is 2.15.00.07.38
Double check, my awake time is exactly the same as my up time.
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That is a sign that either (a) you are literally using your phone 100% of the time, which will indeed suck batteries down very quickly, or (b) you have some app that is constantly asking for attention and wont let the phone sleep. By comparison, my uptime is 11+ hrs, and my awake time is about 3 hours. It's awake when I am using it, but it sleeps other times (can still receive calls/email/sms in this state). If your phone isn't sleeping when you're not using it, battery wil suffer.
EDIT: If you just rebooted, then it will of course be equal. You should check after you have been booted and running on battery (not plugged in) for a few hours.

igknighted said:
That is a sign that either (a) you are literally using your phone 100% of the time, which will indeed suck batteries down very quickly, or (b) you have some app that is constantly asking for attention and wont let the phone sleep. By comparison, my uptime is 11+ hrs, and my awake time is about 3 hours. It's awake when I am using it, but it sleeps other times (can still receive calls/email/sms in this state). If your phone isn't sleeping when you're not using it, battery wil suffer.
EDIT: If you just rebooted, then it will of course be equal. You should check after you have been booted and running on battery (not plugged in) for a few hours.
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Yeah i figured, but battery seems to be normal now The thing thats killing me is not being able to get good internet! I cant download a small app over the mobile network because it lags out and just doesn't go! It shouldve gotten better since the sky is more clear, but it hasnt.

*228
*228 will update your towers and roaming capabilities definatly try this first

pdqauto01 said:
*228 will update your towers and roaming capabilities definatly try this first
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No that doesnt work

Try a new radio. Legit, it will probably help a lot.
Research how to check an md5 sum before you actually flash it through hboot, but past that you're set. If the md5's don't match, redownload.
I suggest the 11.19 radio (The new EVO radio). 9.01 also worked well for me, but the EVO one works wonders. I also have a wannabEVO phone, so that might just be me.
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Battery Life - What else is there?

I seem to have run into some kind of battery drain issue. It occurs every few days and a reboot always fixes it for a few more days.
An example was this morning. I pulled the phone off the charger. I drove to a location about 10 minutes away, put the phone down and it literally sat idle for 1.5 hours. When I picked up the phone, the battery life was down to 62%. It started at 100%.
Most times when I sit the phone down for any length of time, the percentage barely dropa, maybe two to three percent.
As I said, if I reboot the phone, the drain will stop for a few days.
At the moment, the cpu is running 20% with the highest consumed by the xda app. Battery shows an uptime of ~85 hours with an awake time of ~20 hours. My current Current is 378mA.
My usage shows 23 standby. 23 wifi. 22 phone idle. 21 Android. 8 display.
These numbers, I think, are okay.
What else can I look at?
I am rooted, running VaelPak 3.1 on a nohavs nosbc kernel. I've also been running into a issue where I have to reboot the phone by pulling the battery because a reboot done through software doesn't complete. On the way back up I see a FC on System.
So, I have a work around but I really want to crack the mystery.
Any thoughts, anyone?
Rebooting now...

Sounds like something is running in the background sometimes and draining the battery. Restarting must kill the process/app. Personally id just wipe the phone and reinstall everything again. Idk if the PRI/NV issues only affect certain ROMS or phones, but if you look into the netarchy-toast mod thread its says that version 1.90 can cause battery drain issues. Since downgrading to 1.77 i have had no issues.

Ok but if you downgrade doesn't that mess up? Or no?
Swyped from my sexy EVO.

ctbenk said:
Sounds like something is running in the background sometimes and draining the battery. Restarting must kill the process/app. Personally id just wipe the phone and reinstall everything again. Idk if the PRI/NV issues only affect certain ROMS or phones, but if you look into the netarchy-toast mod thread its says that version 1.90 can cause battery drain issues. Since downgrading to 1.77 i have had no issues.
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I hadn't downgraded NV to 1.77, but I downgraded PRI to 1.77. I can't seem to find out what NV is... Definitely noticed a difference for the better when I downgraded PRI.
Yes, I am likely to wipe soon.
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jacoballen22 said:
Ok but if you downgrade doesn't that mess up? Or no?
Swyped from my sexy EVO.
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Downgrading PRI did help my battery life.
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Hmm but what if I'm using myns warm 5?
Swyped from my sexy EVO.

jacoballen22 said:
Hmm but what if I'm using myns warm 5?
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Well, I couldn't really say. I believe PRI and NV are scripts that can be applied via ROM Manager after your ROM load. That's how it works with VaelPak anyway. Can't say another the other ROMs as I've never run them...

[Q] Why PRI 1.77? NV 1.77? Why over 1.90?

Why are people using pri 1.77/nv 1.77 over pri1.90/nv1.90? battery drain, 3g speeds, gps locks?
thank you very much

Some people report a significant battery drain with 1.90 and find 1.70 more reliable, even when running stock.
Sent from my Evo using mikfroyo 4.5

cool. im running stock with some cosmetic mods. trying pri 1.77, nv 1.77 now. i usually prefer to have the latest though.
is 1.90 causing widespread problems or is it fairly isolated?

I know there were problems using the new PRI and NV with a ROM that wasn't based on the new release as well. Now that most if not all of the custom ROMs are based on that version, I'm not sure if there are any widespread problems with the current NV and PRI. I'm using the latest and haven't seen problems with Myn RLS5 or mikfroyo 4.5 (just started with that one though).

cool. the vibe im getting is that 1.90pri/nv works well with stock 3.70. ill run 1.77 tomorrow and see how my battery life does. i wish there were a place we could see changes made to the pri/nv files and compare them with each other...my battery life seemed fine with 1.90 but if it can be better with 1.77, ill take it. also like fast gps locks.
still craving input! thanks!!

I am actually running CM7+4G and had 1.77 and noticed that my 3G speeds were terrible. I was maybe getting .3 down and .4 up max every run. I flashed 1.90 and now my speeds are 1.10 down and .80 up. Much improved. I personally didn't notice a difference in battery life. Course I've had my phone off the charger a few times with over three days so unless I leave it unplugged forever I don't notice big differences. Using a 1750 MaH battery from BB.

nosympathy said:
I am actually running CM7+4G and had 1.77 and noticed that my 3G speeds were terrible. I was maybe getting .3 down and .4 up max every run. I flashed 1.90 and now my speeds are 1.10 down and .80 up. Much improved. I personally didn't notice a difference in battery life. Course I've had my phone off the charger a few times with over three days so unless I leave it unplugged forever I don't notice big differences. Using a 1750 MaH battery from BB.
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Try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10781368#post10781368
3G fix for slow connections

sekigah84 said:
Try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10781368#post10781368
3G fix for slow connections
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for starters, it only is supposed to work in sense roms, as that post states it gets reset when you flash a new rom.
second, I have tried that "fix" and everytime it makes my 3G speeds even worse. Tried that fix on Myns warmtwopointtwo and fresh. kills my 3g speeds instantly.

I haven't had any issues running the 1.77 folks say faster 3g speed and better battery life so far everything been running great for me no bad slow data speeds.

I had battery drain and sleep issues with 1.90. I went back to 1.77.
Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.

I also went back to 1.77 from 1.90 and battery life went from about 12 hours to 18-20. A bunch of people at work did the same and are getting significantly better battery.
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So how do you down grade the PRI and NV?Do you just flash it from recovery like a rom?

iamcajun said:
So how do you down grade the PRI and NV?Do you just flash it from recovery like a rom?
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yeah just download it out of the thread in the Dev section, and flash it like a rom, it will ask you to reboot your phone, it will then apply the "update" and the kick you back to the recovery and your done.

I've been meaning to do this too but simply don't have much time. I need a kernal to resort to that doesn't give me screen tearing.
Swyped from my sexy EVO.

Do you update them both at the same time?

One after the other, I could be wrong.
Swyped from my sexy EVO.

Since my 003 Evo appears to work fine, but I get the most pathetic battery life regardless of the ROM, etc, this is of great interest to me. Can anyone tell me if the poor battery life that they experienced using the 1.90 was only related to a sleep issue...as in the phone didn't sleep properly with the 1.90?
I ask because my phone appears to sleep fine. If I leave it dark overnight for 8-hours, the awake time is under an hour.
Also if one wants to experiement with this, should the PRI and NV always be flashed together? The versions appear to match exactly so it would seem to make sensethat they go together.
Thank you for your time and assistance.

tailsthecat3 said:
cool. the vibe im getting is that 1.90pri/nv works well with stock 3.70. ill run 1.77 tomorrow and see how my battery life does. i wish there were a place we could see changes made to the pri/nv files and compare them with each other...my battery life seemed fine with 1.90 but if it can be better with 1.77, ill take it. also like fast gps locks.
still craving input! thanks!!
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exactly my thoughts..

is pri & nv the same? I was going to try and flash the 1.77 but I wanted to make sure that the prii 1.77 radio is all that I need to flash.
Thanks

No they aren't the same; you should flash both of them though.

[Q] Gf's battery life (need suggestions)

I've done everything I know to do to help with her battery life. She has a hardware 0003 Evo, the exact same as mine. Both of us have Sprint Lovers ROM with PRI 1.77. I have Netarchy 4.3.4, she has 4.2.2 because 4.3.4 didn't work well on hers. The only real difference between our setups is mine. I have Titanium Backup with most of the useless apps frozen and UltimateJuice with the latest JuiceDefender Beta. I also use LauncherPro.
I've noticed that her device pulls high mA's when discharging. I believe I saw one over 1100mA earlier while looking at something on her phone.
I realize that my setup may be a bit more battery efficient than hers, but her drain should not be as high. She literally has to plug up several times a day, when I can go 2 days on a charge.
So does anyone have any suggestions? I really don't want to have to swap out her phone.

you should try nets 4.3.2 cfs havs less, or the no havs those are very stable and great with battery life, before you flash fill battery wipe caches and battery stats, flash kernel

Try installing the 4.3.4 kernel again but play around with the versions. Try a less-havs if more-havs doesnt play well. Maybe even no-havs. Try installing juice defender on hers also and see how well it plays out.

Update her PRI. I run the most up to date pri and don't have any battery problems. It's probably that I can almost guarantee it. Some phones work better with different set ups then others. To update you can use caulkins flashable update zip. Its in the dev section in the first couple pages if you don't feel like searching. Just be careful when flashing.

get a 3500 battery, or maybe her battery is defective. You're a sprint service technician? come on now

tonyh703 said:
get a 3500 battery, or maybe her battery is defective. You're a sprint service technician? come on now
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This is a "what can I do outside of my expertise" thread, meaning modification methods.

Sunsparc said:
This is a "what can I do outside of my expertise" thread, meaning modification methods.
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Well, I'm not versed on sense kernels, but perhaps try a less aggressive havs kernel on hers. Does he keep her 3G on all the time, cuz that'll be a battery drainer.
What she could do is change roms, or if she's willing to, try out AOSP.

Calibrate the battery.

3500!! is the answer. You can't do anything with the stock battery. Does she give it a full charge often? My girlfriend only charges were phone a few hours each night and complaines that it dies often... and thats with the 3500... Even if the light is gree and it shows 100% done, its not really done. Let that thing charge for 8 hours straight. Google Bump Charging... that helps too.

In addition to all things suggested here, never underestimate the power of turning off auto-sync and background data. I keep background data off all day and then turn it on for five minutes or so every night to check gmail, etc. If your gf is anything like the girls I mess with then she's probably just killing her battery by updating her Facebook status twice an hour and tweeting every time her cat farts. Not much you can do to help if that's the case...
Social mongers pay for their insolence in battery life. For the rest of is, there's the background data toggle
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The_mamba said:
In addition to all things suggested here, never underestimate the power of turning off auto-sync and background data. I keep background data off all day and then turn it on for five minutes or so every night to check gmail, etc. If your gf is anything like the girls I mess with then she's probably just killing her battery by updating her Facebook status twice an hour and tweeting every time her cat farts. Not much you can do to help if that's the case...
Social mongers pay for their insolence in battery life. For the rest of is, there's the background data toggle
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Actually, she doesn't, so I'll probably end up doing that. I tried her on CM7 but she didn't like it, gave her more problems than usefulness.

If she's not a big background data user then you should definitely toggle it off. With comparable usage, I typically get twice as much life-per-charge with background toggled off than on regardless of what ROM or kernel I'm running. It's the biggest little thing you can do.
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[Q] HTC Evo Battery Problem - Uptime/Awake

I have a really frustrating problem with my HTC Evo.
My battery doesn't even last me 6 hours.
The battery was never great but now it seems to be much much worse.
I can charge the phone to 100% and 20 minutes later it will be at 70% with little to no use.
I checked the battery use list and the display is using the bulk of the battary at 48%.
I don't see any rouge apps that are consuming my battery.
I noticed that the Up time and Awake time are exactly the same. This doesn't seem normal.
The Awake time should be the time the phone is actually in use, right?
I have tried many times to calibrate my battery using the BatteryCalibration app but it doesn't seem to help.
In the Battery Calibration app it lists the current charge at 8% with 3647mV.
The mV amount seems quite high for 8% battery left. Shouldn't the mV be closer to 0?
I am using Scott's CleanRom 1.1
Baseband version: 2.15.00.05.02
Kernel version: 2.635.10-Agressive-Freedom-v0.9+
PRI version: 2.15_003
PRL version: 60686
Any help would be appreciated.

It seems like a wakelock issue. I am not sure how to fix it. There are a few threads about it though. I know you have to enter some commands in terminal emulator and that will fix your problem.
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binary01 said:
I have a really frustrating problem with my HTC Evo.
My battery doesn't even last me 6 hours.
The battery was never great but now it seems to be much much worse.
I can charge the phone to 100% and 20 minutes later it will be at 70% with little to no use.
I checked the battery use list and the display is using the bulk of the battary at 48%.
I don't see any rouge apps that are consuming my battery.
I noticed that the Up time and Awake time are exactly the same. This doesn't seem normal.
The Awake time should be the time the phone is actually in use, right?
I have tried many times to calibrate my battery using the BatteryCalibration app but it doesn't seem to help.
In the Battery Calibration app it lists the current charge at 8% with 3647mV.
The mV amount seems quite high for 8% battery left. Shouldn't the mV be closer to 0?
I am using Scott's CleanRom 1.1
Baseband version: 2.15.00.05.02
Kernel version: 2.635.10-Agressive-Freedom-v0.9+
PRI version: 2.15_003
PRL version: 60686
Any help would be appreciated.
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Have you tried flashing different rom? Or different kernel. Some phones don't like certain roms with kernels, try different kernel first because your most definitely have wakelock issue. Try to use amon ra recovery to flash.
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volk9029 said:
Have you tried flashing different rom? Or different kernel. Some phones don't like certain roms with kernels, try different kernel first because your most definitely have wakelock issue. Try to use amon ra recovery to flash.
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Would you recommend I do that or follow this guide?
What other kernels would you recommend I flash to?

binary01 said:
Would you recommend I do that or follow this guide?
What other kernels would you recommend I flash to?
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You can try to do that, it might work. Just to be honest with you that rom is a bit old. Maybe you can try classic by tommytomatoe or sos by swagstr or team nocturnal rom. Let it run for a day or two. Then if you don't like regular kernel, you can try Calne's kernel or chop suey.
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Your battery may need to be replaced. I had the same problem, and bought another battery and my problems subsided.

starkwead said:
Your battery may need to be replaced. I had the same problem, and bought another battery and my problems subsided.
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His up and wake time are the same. It's wakelock issue.
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binary01 said:
Would you recommend I do that or follow this guide?
What other kernels would you recommend I flash to?
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There's an update to the rom that you have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351890

Does anyone have the files posted in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128135
The links are all down.

Battery problems with HTC
I'm also having charge retention problems with my HTC phone, but I thought it might be partly my own fault for using so much tethering. I tried to drain it all the way to see if that would help, but it doesn't seem to have done much. Almost no use of the phone today, and it's already dropped a lot. However, I think the more serious symptom is that it doesn't seem to charge above 80% or 90% even on its happiest days.
As regards the usage meter, that's pretty clearly bogus. Right now it shows that the usage was Cell standby (57%), Phone idle (36%), Android System (5%), and Display (2%). Nothing about the apps I briefly used. There are a couple of apps that will sometimes show up, but usually it's just about like that--and useless.
My carrier has offered to replace the battery, but the charge is about the same as breaking the contract two months early--and that is what I am inclined to do. Nor do I forgive my carrier for having dropped HTC phones. They should have checked more carefully before they sold me this dog in the first place. Everything good I credit to Android, but everything bad is HTC. At least that's how I feel about it.
The phone is not that old, but it has always been problematic and HTC has never been helpful. I would start another 'I hate HTC' thread, but that's apparently against the website's policy. I saw one such thread as I was cruising around, and it had a bunch of posts in the few minutes before it was locked. Anyway, a list of all the problems this phone has given me would not be amusing...

Have you tried setcpu with custom profiles, change kernel(check posts for good ones for your rom), when you flash do u wipe battery stats?
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