Heres some pretty basic questions for yall:
1)
I need a AOSP kernel. No "Trickling battery" please, I don't want my battery exploding next to my head while I sleep. Needs to be stable. Needs to have HAVS. Needs to be able to run Cyangenmod7. Lastly, it needs to be CMF, or non-brain ****ing whatever.
2)
I need to know what custom ROM i should download. I'm undecided with the whole sense vs. non-sense thing. Partially because I don't know what sense is. (im assuming its some sort of UI?). Something with a different look than stock 2.2 at least. Needs to be stable. Should be Froyo-derived. Needs to be activly upgraded, but not nightly or in beta (with the exception of Cyangenmod7)
In essence, which is the best coustom rom in your opinion?
3)What is Sense? Is it what allows you to drag-n-drop icons?
4) I need a non-AOSP kernel incase the most popular ROM doesn't have support for AOSP.
Thanks.
And I did do a bit of searching in the developers section, but all I found were beta or alpha releases with trickling charges enabled.
I decided on Savaged-Zen Kernel 2.6.37-ck1 kernel and a CM7 nightly build. full-18.. I hope this works >.< All my other attemps have been faulty.
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Hey guys I have been doing quite a bit of searching through the forums and still have a couple questions about custom roms and rooting. Forgive the noobness but the droid incredible is my first android device and I only recently got it.
1. My first question is what is the simplest way (rom + root I assume) to get a stock version of android on my incredible? Also what rom would you recommend (I have seen a pretty big list but know nothing about them)?
2. What is the difference, if any, between a kernel and a rom? Ive seen both words used a lot and have seen kernels that are stock and roms that are as well. Which would I use between the two?
I know these questions may be dumb but I have been searching for a couple days and have gone through hundreds of threads trying to find the definitive answer (there were some benefits though, I use launcher pro and the droid x's keyboard now) any help would be appreciated.
1. You are right in assuming that the quickest (and only) way to get a stock version of Android on your phone is to root your phone and install a custom recovery that will allow you to flash a rom. It is not really possible for me to recommend a rom because rom's are all about personal preference and my preference may be different from yours. That being said, if you are interested in stock Android, check out Cyanogenmod. The biggest thing right now is that for the Incredible, Cyanogenmod is the only true stock Android that is compiled from AOSP (Android Open Source Project) however it is still in its early stages for our device, so it's still buggy. The other roms are modified versions of our stock sense rom, so some of the roms are modified to have the bulkier parts of of the Sense UI removed, but it is still a Sense rom.
2. I'm not going to profess to be extremely in the know about kernels, but a kernel is the go-between for the hardware and the os/applications. If you want to learn more about kernels, you can read the wikipedia page about kernels found here. Basically what you need to know is that the rom is the operating system, so if you wanted to change the OS such as from Sense to Vanilla Android, you would flash a rom. If you wanted to change the way the system runs, such as if you want your processor to be overclocked or undervolted, you would flash a kernel.
Hope this helps.
That answered everything! Thanks for the reply and I will keep checking the forums for stock roms that seem stable!
I want to start of by apologizing if this is a question that is answered somewhere else. I DID search and checked all of the 'similar threads' before posting.
I am wondering what the difference is between a froyo kernel and a gingerbread kernel. I don't really need super specific technical details, just the semi-technical general answer.
The reason I ask is because I am running the Incredibly Re-engineered (v2.3.2) with the incredikernel v2.6.32.27 and noticed that the incredikernel thread got updated.
Incredikernel Thread
In the update, there is listed a froyo and a gingerbread specific kernel. Do you have to chose a specific one for a specific rom? If so, how do you know which one to chose.
My About Phone screen shows "Android Version 2.2" so I assume that means I need the froyo kernel?
Edit: I also noticed that I didn't finish the thread title. I meant to put Froyo or Gingerbread Kernel... Can this be changed after posting? I'm not the best with forums.
You are exactly correct, you would use the Froyo kernel. Froyo is 2.2, Gingerbread is 2.3, and you need to use a kernel for whichever version of Android you are running.
Perfect. Thank you very much.
the gingerbread kernels are for gingerbread based roms like CM7 you want the froyo one if you are still running android OS 2.2 ( look in the "about phone" tab in settings to confirm. also keep in mind that there are differant froyo kernels as well there is sense based kerners and AOSP kernels.
So the sense based kernels are based off of the HTC kernel? and AOSP is the completely open source project done by the community? How do you find out which type of rom you are running, other than looking on the forum/web page? Is there a spot in your phone settings that will list this? I've never seen one that I can remember.
Well, it's a matter of what flavor of Android the kernel is made for that determines if it's a Sense kernel or an AOSP one. As far as determining the ROM type, I am not aware of anything that specifically gives it away other than the general feeling of Sense verses the general feeling of AOSP; with Sense you have all the HTC widgets and apps, unless it's a Sense-less ROM.
TL;DR, your best bet is to just note what kind of ROM it is when you download.
Ok. Thanks for all of the help.
Hopefully any other newbies out there who have the same questions might get some use from this too.
You are certainly welcome.
Ok so I am new to the droid Incredible and as you can kind of tell I am coming from the HTC Hero by sprint. I looked around but nothing really helped me making a decision so now I am asking you! I am currently running the newest Synergy ROM which is android 2.3.3 and I haven't seen any gingerbread Kernels, just froyo. What kernel would you recommend for battery life because I am used to having atleast 2 days but I was running cm7 but I missed sense way too much lol
Unfortunately there are no options for custom sense GB kernels aside from what the rom comes with.
ok so that's why I could not find any, is there one in the works though?
That'll be a possibility when the official GB version source code is released, which will be after we would receive the OTA.
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Kernal help
I too need help picking a Kernal. I am totally new to this Rom thing but luckly was able to root & get SkyRaider 4.2 running on my Droid Inc. on my first go with no trouble.
So what I'm mainly looking for is to get:
1. Better battery life
2. To overclock cpu
(If you have any other tips for me on getting the most out of my phone, they would be MUCH appreciated.)
So I've been thinking of flashing the Incredikernal 2.632. But I know that this new version of SkyRaider was just updated or released not too long ago. Will this effect my decision? Is the Incredikernal I want even compatible with my current SkyRaider rom? Or should I just stick with what I have? Thanks in advance.
I'd recommended trying incredikernel, you're not gonna hurt anything flashing kernels so there's nothing to lose and you very well may see improvements in performance and battery life. Just make sure you get the incredikernel for sense from 12/23. Other options to look into are heyitslou and ziggys.
There are quite a few ROMs available, but one thing is not entirely clear to me. Why aren't there any clean AOSP ROMs for the Wildfire? I can understand it would be difficult to develop newer Android versions like Gingerbread that were never officially released for the Wildfire, but wouldn't it be relativly easy to compile a working ROM from the 2.2/2.2.1 source code? Or am I completely missing the point here?
It seems to me all the materials are available to pull this off without too much effort, right? The Kernel source is available from HTC and the Froyo source from our friends at Google.
From what I understand there are also some vendor specific issues that need to be solved, but the Cyanogen developers apparently have this solved already.
That pretty much covers everything right?
So my question would be, is it possible to easily build a clean version of Froyo for the Wildfire by doing the following:
1. Grab the kernel source from HTC and compile it (or just fuse a pre-compiled one seeing as there are quite a few available).
2. Compile the Android 2.2/2.2.1 source
3. Apply vendor specific fixes (assuming they don't have to be incorperated in the code directly).
4. Flash kernel + ROM, thereafter Gapps
5. win?
Basically something like Openfire without bugs. Which reminds me, wouldn't the video recording/SIM card issues be fixed with the official HTC kernel? In which case, I see little reason to try and compile the stuff by myself.
Ah well, I really really hope someone can enlighten me on this subject.
TL;DR: I want to create a basic a clean AOSP Froyo 2.2/2.2.1 ROM which should be easy right because we already have the required materials (proper HTC kernel -- or third party one, 2.2/2.2.1 source, cyanogen vendor fixes), so compile = good to go?
there are
- Wildmix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155032
- CM6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822132
- Utmost http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862561
- Openfire - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783024
more here (scroll down) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
There is always CM7
Remember you use these at your own risk
Thank you for your reply, but it doesn't really address my questions. I am aware of the custrom ROMs available, none of them really meet my demands.
Cyanogenmod is an excellent ROM, but CM6 has some issues and CM7 is based of Gingerbread.
Utmost and Wildmix are both based on Openfire. The problem with Openfire is that it has a lot of internal stuff I don't really like. Seeing as Utmost and Wildmix are based on it those don't really float my boat either.
My eventual goal would be to create a clean AOSP like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162656
Unfortunately it's based on Gingerbread and not fully functional (yet!).
That is why I asked the questions that I asked. I'd rather do it myself from scratch, but in order to do any work I could really use an answer to my questions
Thanks anyways.
Trademark225 said:
Thank you for your reply, but it doesn't really address my questions. I am aware of the custrom ROMs available, none of them really meet my demands.
Cyanogenmod is an excellent ROM, but CM6 has some issues and CM7 is based of Gingerbread.
Utmost and Wildmix are both based on Openfire. The problem with Openfire is that it has a lot of internal stuff I don't really like. Seeing as Utmost and Wildmix are based on it those don't really float my boat either.
My eventual goal would be to create a clean AOSP like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162656
Unfortunately it's based on Gingerbread and not fully functional (yet!).
That is why I asked the questions that I asked. I'd rather do it myself from scratch, but in order to do any work I could really use an answer to my questions
Thanks anyways.
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He meant a AOSP Froyo, no Gingerbread ;D
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He meant a AOSP Froyo, no Gingerbread ;D
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Got that after posting that
But gingerbread is much better than froyo and compatible to nearly all apps you can have
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Anyway what's wrong with gingerbread??
I figured since 2.2.1 is the last available official version released it would be easier to get all hardware functioning properly. But if those new ginger AOSP projects fix the video recording bugs and get everything else fixed, ill gladly switch to it. Maybe ill use xdbg's (spelling?) ginger aosp as a base as soon ss the bugs are fixed.
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Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums but I've been looking into custom ROMs for some time already.
I'd like to tell you that I'm extremely dumb when it comes to things like Kernel, even though I understand a bit of these, I have lots of questions, keeping with that example, if I flash a CM9 Kernel, when I restore an old backup (where I used the Stock phone, for instance), what happens to that Kernel? Is it erased and the Kernel is back to my Stock?
But well, let's get the thread specifically where I want, the custom ROMs.
As previously said, I'm stupidly new to these things, but I decided to gamble on my luck and flash a CM9 Quarx nightly some days ago (can't remember from where I got that one, sorry), but I experienced some problems, like a small lag (yeah, I didn't really like the speed, compared to my stock) and an awful battery problem, where two battery fixes didn't work, and, then, with my heart desolated like a dragon's breath on corn fields, I restored the stock backup I made before doing that.
Ah yeah, I forgot to mention that my Defy+ came with a 2.3.4 version of the OS, just to let you guys know.
So, after that, seeking for more candy to my eyes (Jesus, I loved the settings and stuff from that ROM!), I sailed my boat to the famous WhiteRabbit 1.6, which I must admit, I LOVED it. But as I said, LOV"ED", until I started to face a giant tide... My phone was constantly freezing for long periods (something between 4 and 6 minutes, usually), something of which made my phone quite unusuable and unstable. With tears in my eyes, listening to Beethoven's 1st move of Moonlight Sonata (on the PC...), I decided to restore that old - 2-day old actually - backup to Stock again.
Now I just noticed that I don't like Stock anymore, I can't stand the limitations in comparison to the other two ROMs I used, and I want more! I want some stable ROM, and with "stable" I really mean something stable: a ROM that won't freeze, that has the basic stuff working, a good-looking UI, with fast and smooth scrolling, with a fix for the battery error (if there is the error on the ROM... which I'm quite sure will have), and that gives me more than the Stock would.
I've been looking at that MIUI Pikachu Edition and I really want to try it out, so, should I go on with it? Or do you guys recommend me something else? Another thing that I forgot to say is that I don't really feel like downgrading my Kernel nor putting my phone into a knight's blade way.
Yup, my device is Rooted and has a Boot Manager that I got on some brazillian forums, everything works as I guess they should do.
Sorry for the wall of text and before anything, thanks in advance!
Hey, mate
MIUI Pikachu Edition was the ROM I used absolutely the longest, almost two months without switching to anything else. I must admit that was the time I was constantly satisfied with my phone, but then CM9 became stable and I switched to it and then I simply couldn't go back to any Gingerbread ROM as the new features (mostly the looks ) of ICS were just too good Soon CM10 showed up and I've been with it since the first nightly.
So, yes, I think you should try Pikachu, but for it you need to flash "bl6 Froyo", because it's built for Froyo kernel only. (You cannot flash those flashable kernel zips! They are meant for the standard DEFY only. They are signed as bl5 and if you were to flash one of those, you would end up with a bootloader error, so you would have to flash the 2.3.4 sbf to get your phone back up and running...)
Other than that, CM10 is pretty much the way to go, if you ask me. Yes, it might take some time to load an app or another, but it's the most advanced ROM for the DEFY(+) so far and Jelly Bean really is the best Android version up to date. Quarx's latest nightly is the best version at the moment - the one from two days ago (September 12th). (Paranoid Android and AOKP are both based on Quarx's work, at least our (DEFY) versions)
The third choice for me would be MIUI 4.1, the one based on Jelly Bean. MIUI v4 was a nice step forward when it comes to looks, but it was two steps back when it comes to performance. v4.1 is a much better performer, but work on it has just started, so it'll take a couple of versions to polish it a bit. If you try and like Pikachu I guess you should follow Wajk's WIUI Jelly Bean progress and switch to it when you find it good enough for you
P.S. If it happens that you like Gingerbread more than Jelly Bean for whatever reason and don't like MIUI, FuZZ's CM7 KANG's were always the best for me :good:
I'd say that depends on how you want to handle your phone. If you want to just install a custom ROM once and then stick with it I can recommend CM 7.2, I had that for like half a year and everything worked nicely. It also offers lots of extra features and customization.
If you want the newest Android version I can second the above notion, try CM10 by Quarx. its a great ROM, and even though it is still work in Progress everything you need is working. This might mean that you want to update your ROM every once in a while to get the newest build and features, but this can be done easily through an app from within CM10.
As you have a Defy+ you wont need to flash any Kernel for the above, just pick the correct (Defy+) Version.
use CM10 its stable & works fine on defy+
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