[Q] Preventing OTA update - myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Believe it or not after searching the web I haven't found a concrete answer on the subject, so I have two questions regarding OTA updates: 1) Can t-mobile flash an OTA on a non-stock android rom? 2) If so, what ways can I prevent it? After doing this much work on my phone, it would really suck if I lost root... Thanks

petraman said:
Believe it or not after searching the web I haven't found a concrete answer on the subject, so I have two questions regarding OTA updates: 1) Can t-mobile flash an OTA on a non-stock android rom? 2) If so, what ways can I prevent it? After doing this much work on my phone, it would really suck if I lost root... Thanks
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No.. T-Mobile MUST ALWAYS ask for your permission usual in a message that will pop-up on your screen asking you to flash to newest.. ROM/RADIO sometimes doing so will break your ROOT and S-OFF until someone fixes.. please keep in mind.. when you choose to flash if you do..
T-Mobile is a company they SOLD you a Third-Party Product (HTC SLIDE) Renamed HTC Espresso because it uses T-Mobiles SENSE or Espresso Drivers.
T-Mobile is your Service Provider.. They may only ASK you to flash a new ROM to your phone but they have no right as the phone now belongs to you.
so no worries T-Mobile will not flash a OTA rom to your phone to break your root

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Has anyone had success rooting Testra phones with 1.16.184....ROM's?

I need to Root this phone and get rid of the Telstra rubbish, but i am having no luck to date.
Any advice from you Telstra handset owners would be fantastic!
Have a look on the modaco android forums, users there have reported success with rooting and flashing a generic desire rom. But there are also reports that the gps problem, that 1.16 fixes, comes back.
Please excuse this really n00b question...However is the only way to root by loading a modified rom onto the phone? Would it not be possible to root my current (HTC Desire from Telstra) keeping all out of the box software/settings?
I guess much the same way that blacksn0w jailbreaks an iPhone without you having to flash a jailbroken firmware back to the phone.
Cheers
It doesnt have to be a modified rom, it can be a stock one. If you do root your phone, you will have to reflash a rom though, be it stock or modified, and all of your personal setting will be gone.
Is there a particular one that seems to work well. I have had issues with mine because it came with the rom that has the GPS fix already installed. This rom is 1.16, it did not like the new one because it is 1.15
I had no issue creating the goldcard and got it to the bootload screen, but i could not get past that point.
Its best you ask questions in the root thread over at modaco, you'll get better answers.
Thanks Jaa-Yoo. I'll give it a crack.

OTA update process

Please can someone clarify some things regarding over the air updates, e.g. for Froyo/2.2:
1. If one carrier pushes the update before another, can the update be shared with others and applied to any handset/ network, without root?
2. What happens with people who have bought unbranded/ unlocked devices? Should they get OTA from whatever network they are now on?
nb8k said:
Please can someone clarify some things regarding over the air updates, e.g. for Froyo/2.2:
1. If one carrier pushes the update before another, can the update be shared with others and applied to any handset/ network, without root?
2. What happens with people who have bought unbranded/ unlocked devices? Should they get OTA from whatever network they are now on?
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First off bit early innit!! lol.......
Secondly as its android i should imagine it will be like any other OTA, with all normal rules applying.
1), If the carrier pushes the OTA, it proberly would not be a good idear to share, as some are custom boot logos etc..
2), I expect that will be the case, or it will simple be a download from the HTC site
regards,
Rich.

HTC Desire on Orange - Debranding?!

Hi
Apologies for this post if it's been done many times before but I've been digging around now for hours and keep finding conflicting advice on problems I will run into so I just need someone to clarify if it's possible and what I need to do to ensure I don't loose wifi access or brick my phone or anything like that....
I bought a HTC Desire locked to Orange (UK) yesterday and I would like to get it unlocked and debranded. The unlocking part should not be a prob as I'll just buy a code from somewhere (or thats the hope anyhow) but when it comes to reflashing to debrand I keep coming across posts about wifi issues or OTA updates making progs force close, thus the Desire becoming unstable.
All I want to know is..... How do I get rid of all the Orange crap and go to a generic HTC Desire ROM so it would be like I bought a retail Desire? Is this possible without messing up my phone?? I'm currently on 02 (UK) but also bought an Orange PAYG sim just incase things get overly complicated. I would like to stick with my 02 sim but don't want to run into any probs with my phone, and if needs be I could switch over to Orange but that would be my last resort. I would also like to get rid of the Orange flash screen and the Orange apps that came preinstalled on my phone. Some posts say it's possible, some posts say I will have issues with the radio version, some posts say I will loose wifi and the Desire will turn unstable (lots of force closed prompts). If I did manage to go back to the retail Desire ROM, would I then run into probs with OTA updates?
Sorry if this question is proper nooby, but in truth that's exactly what I am and I'm getting totally lost!! After hours of digging I thought I'd just post this up and see if someone can clarify the situation before I dig in and start flashing. Better to be safe than sorry and all that.
Any help would be appreciated!!
With an orange branded desire, you'll definitely have to unlock it - i did with mine, although i discovered that after i'd flashed it
the only think i would advise you to do is to read up on the various rom threads - the first couple of posts in each thread will tell you what each rom does and will invariably give you a couple of screenshots as well.
that way you can decide which one you want in the firsts instance. then i'd skip to the end of the thread and read back a few pages from that point, so you'll get an idea of what problems (if any) people are still having.
it really comes down to personal preference and taking a chance - most, if not all of the roms on here are working and stable and won't really give you many problems.
Yea its an eyesore to say the least is that filthy orange branding
get it debranded first using a goldcard and flashed with rooted generic rom
then purchase sim unlock code to use your o2.
then update and mod to your hearts "desire"
Firstly, thanks for your quick replies! I had a feeling this was going to be a bit of a mission!!
Ok, so say I've unlocked and unbranded my phone. What happens with OTA updates from there on in? Is it just a case of doing them manually and switching off auto OTA? I read somewhere that by flashing with a rooted ROM it will block OTA from updating to prevent the phone getting locked or becoming unstable, is that right?
Also, this may be a stupid question but if it's flashed to a generic HTC ROM then where does it contact for the updates? I was figuring as soon as I'd gotten rid of the Orange fw that it would no longer be looking for the Orange'd ROM update but after reading this doesn't seem to be the case?
Please forgive me if I'm being ignorant, I've gone from a Nokia 1600 (lol) to a HTC Desire and trying to get my head around it all!!
I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
1. Do I unlock the phone 1st, ie. get an unlock code from orange.
2. do I then flash the generic firmware.
3. Is the sim lock stored in the radio part of the firmware?
I have unbranded/unlocked nokia n80`s and htc tync`s in the past, but I need to swat up on this linux stuff.
Any usefull advice welcomed, in the mean while I`ll keep reading
The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
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I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
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Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.
hankhandsome said:
The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.
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So can the simlock be removed by flashing a simfree radio rom??? I`m pretty sure this is what i did on an old tync to remove simlock.....but this was some time ago
you say the radio Rom you flashed caused the simlock, did you not have to supply the network provider as well as the IMIE to get the unlock code? or was this a generic Radio rom?
My wife has just got a htc desire HD on 3 and that is branded.
I have got a Samsung Galaxy S and i have unbranded that down loading a Manufacture Rom and that updates as normal.
Is there some software like odin for the Htc and were like samfirmware.com can i down load a Manufactures rom.
she went for this phone cos of the spec and she does not like my Samsung i was hoping the Htc community would be the same it is so easy to do and Samsung service centres checked my firmware and it was fine.
Most people just want there phone as Htc intended it to be
HTC finally launched their Gingerbread update (2.3.3) for Desire. I am using a Desire (telstra locked Android 2.1), downloaded the new update from the official website HTC website and now i have a completely unbranded HTC Desire with 2.3.3... NO GOLDCARD OR ROOT REQUIRED.

Sprint Updates, do I want them? (rooted phone)

Hi all. I am a proud EVO user and generally love the phone. It's rooted for use w/ wifi tether. Not really using root much beyond that. Question, do I want or need the Sprint system update(s)? I had read that unrooting my phone could keep it from being rootable later on. Will the phone perform any better w/ the updates? Are there alternatives? My last phone was WM and it had a custom ROM. What do you all think?
Thanks!
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Hi all. I am a proud EVO user and generally love the phone. It's rooted for use w/ wifi tether. Not really using root much beyond that. Question, do I want or need the Sprint system update(s)? I had read that unrooting my phone could keep it from being rootable later on. Will the phone perform any better w/ the updates? Are there alternatives? My last phone was WM and it had a custom ROM. What do you all think?
Thanks!
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Anything Sprint releases ends up on here rooted and ready for flashing (usually within hours). I would not do any ota updates knowing that.
Sent on the go from my HTC EVO
Thanks, that being said, should I flash to a custom ROM? I'm sure all this has been asked and answered, so appologies to that. Also, if i do that, should I back up my current apps (what should I use) and when i restore can i restore to a newly flashed phone or is part of the back up process the system files?
People do create rooted versions of the stock ROMs that Sprint releases. So, you can try custom ROMs, but you don't HAVE to. You can get the latest one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
Here's a thread where you can grab all of the latest Radio, WiMax, PRL, etc updates:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
No, installing and official OTA can cause you to lose root. Download the rooted version ^ or stall the latest update for your rom.

[Q] New to the Android Scene - 2.3.5

Hi Guys,
Sorry to be a pain and make my first post to be pretty much that of bunch of 'dumb and silly' question post but im just a little bit weary about some of the procedures relating to the upgrade of 2.3.5.
BACKUPS
I noticed in the main thread with the how-to about Upgrading to 2.3.5 it states to take a FULL BACKUP - How can one achieve this without a Rooted S-OFF'ed WFS? Understandably I can backup music etc that's on my SD Card already, but is there anything else I should be backing up and if so, what - is there anything such as an application out there?
UNBRANDED
Im just wanting to make sure that by unbranded it means, unlocked to all networks and with no specific network lock on the device or branding?
WILL NETWORK SETTINGS ETC NEED TO BE CHANGED
I had the G1 when it was first launched and can remember having a few problems with rooting and upgrading that device to newer ROMS where-by my network carrier settings (T-Mobile at the time) would not work correctly. Has this problem been rectified?
GOING BACK TO STOCK?
What happens if I don't like the new 2.3.5 version of android, can I roll back to stock, am I stuck on it and if I can roll back, how?
OTA Updates - IF THEY EVER HAPPEN
Finally, I was wondering if using the 'hacked' way of upgrading to 2.3.5 would stop any OTA Updates coming through should my Network Carrier provide any (seems unlikely).
I just want to apologise before-hand if any of the above questions have actually already been answered. I have done some searching and cannot find definitive answers to the questions I have provided and felt it best to provide them in once place. Chances are if im asking them a fair few other people will be thinking them....no?
Surely the WFS community isn't that dead...anyone at all - Speaking to Orange UK they have said they have not heard anything about an update for the WFS this side of Christmas...
Allow me to answer all your questions.....
1.You can backup apps etc... Just temp-root your phone(it is either in the general aur dev section).....then use titanium backup....
2.As far as I know debranding would only mean to remove the bloatware that phone carriers add in some countries.
3.No need to change network settings.
4.Going back to an older version without s-off is currently 55% possible(rounded figures )
5.If you are in the stock ROM...then I don't think OTA updates won't stop even if you are rooted
6.And yes....is your carrier a CDMA one or a GSM one??If it is CDMA then you can s-off your phone easily and you can then root it.....
Thank you for getting back to me. I was just wondering with temp rooting and taking a backup will I lose any data already on my phone etc?
My carrier is Orange UK, which requires a SIM...
Regards
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Just wondering if I need to use Titanium Backup or whether I can use any backup application for this move to 2.3.5?

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