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Did anyone see the official "update" thread by tmobile?

Did anyone see the official thread by tmobile about the update they are going to push starting the 4th?
It's not 2.2 but it contains the following fixes:
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Improvements included with this update are as follows:
1. Battery Life:
* Updates to the T-Mobile online contact backup connection, which will improve battery life.
2. Wi-Fi:
* Ability to send MMS messages when connected to Wi-Fi.
3. Genius Button improvements:
* Ability to turn GPS on and off using your voice, such as “Turn GPS on.”
* Will announce Caller ID for incoming voice calls and allow you to “Answer” or “Ignore” using your voice.
* Will announce incoming text messages and allow you to “reply” with dictation.
4. Faves Gallery improvements:
* The Faves icon will be displayed beside notifications that appear while the device is locked to indicate that the communication is coming from one of your Faves.
* Fave photo display speed will be enhanced.
* General stability will be improved, including more seamless scrolling and consistent display of photos.
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http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-3G-Slide/myTouch-3G-Slide-MR-Update/td-p/434548

Hah, yeah saw it. Was really hoping that it would be Froyo but I guess not. Oh well, hopefully soon.

for those of us who are rooted, will we able to apply this update? & if so, will it preserve root?

I wonder if this is the same update that was talked about in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733709

Clom801 said:
I wonder if this is the same update that was talked about in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733709
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I dont know...it seems like two completely different updates.

Was hoping froyo but atleast we are seeing improvements.
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Two words; Epic. Fail.

That means froyo is really far away. They wouldn't be pushing an update if froyo was scheduled any time in the near future.

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That means froyo is really far away. They wouldn't be pushing an update if froyo was scheduled any time in the near future.
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I just want it before December, would be unfair for us to wait till 2011.

Cm my friends cm ta hell with stock
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If someone where too have the update and they did a nandroid before applying they couldcould restore if root was patched up right?
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I was wondering too if I rooted my phone but did nothing else, like the engineering, recovery, or even a rom, will I still be able to update or do I need to unroot it before trying to update.

T-mobile would screw us over with that sense ui skin I like it but they should have removed the bubbles. Every phone is getting like updated(in terms of info) look
http://blogs.computerworld.com/16310/android_22_upgrade_list
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I don't want this update. I'm rooted and really hope it won't force me, I'm happy as can be with thehone the way it is. Btw bubbles are easily removed

turboyo said:
I don't want this update. I'm rooted and really hope it won't force me, I'm happy as can be with thehone the way it is. Btw bubbles are easily removed
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how are bubbles easily removed? does it require root? i havent really felt the need to root this phone in particular but being able to do this will make me willing to do it

For those not wanting the update... you can just delete the FOTA apn and you're good to go.

hey im getting the update right now...i havent accepted it yet what should i do? am i gonna have to root again? should i try to get a copy of it for someone to play with? or is it even anything useful?
-BMFC

bmfc187 said:
hey im getting the update right now...i havent accepted it yet what should i do? am i gonna have to root again? should i try to get a copy of it for someone to play with? or is it even anything useful?
-BMFC
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Its a maintanence update and don't worry too much the dev ChiefzReloaded is gonna pull it for root users he got the update today too on his unrooted slide.
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Can someone provide a link to download the ota
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I have root and have still not received update, do i have to unroot???

Do you think we'll see Unrevoked for Froyo

As the subject says. I took the plunge and updated to Froyo today and I can't help but wonder if it will ever get rooted via Unrevoked. I don't have any regrets but I'm going to miss my root only apps. Phone is definitely alot quicker now and the update corrected a bunch of small problems that I was having.
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We def.ly will, got all the confidence in the Android devs, only a matter of time.
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I hope so. I miss my root privs. I never got into the custom rom scene but I would love to see my 2.2 rooted.
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Would you settle for a manual root method? Or do you need the fool-proof clicky style?

I would agree, unrevoked is cool for being easy, but unless it does full nand, i wouldnt bother.

Why didn't you just install a rooted version of Froyo?
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a lot of the people that arent very deep intot hings seem to make this mistake thinking they need to do the OTA to get FROYO.
I am not up on unrevoked but will it let you flash rooted roms now? i know for a while they said you couldn't for many.
I also think many dont know the diffrence between root and nand unlocked. Always have to remember not everyone one is on the same level of knowlege.

I personally don't like Unrevoked. Sure you get superuser and that is neat and all. But, the only app I found that worked using unrevoked was wifi tether. I couldn't delete any of the standard bloatware and frankly that is all I want. A clean copy of the Sense UI.
Next time I am going to do it manually or use something that does a full unlock.

I was fully aware of what I was doing when I installed the ota update for froyo. I know I had choices at the time in terms of other roms but I never really invested the time to read and follow all of the dev threads and just wanted a fully functional Froyo install. Since I hadn't really gotten into the full nand unlock scene I knew that I probably wouldn't do so in the future so I decided to be brave and go with the ota Froyo and give up root for now.
If there's a manual way to get basic root without full nand unlock manually I would try that in a heart beat. Like I said, I was never really a custom rom guy so having a fully unlocked phone isn't important to me as I don't have that much time to invest reading the forum threads that have thousands of pages.
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[Q] Convert FMRadio app from the HTC desire Z to G2 ?

Pulled the apk from the Desire Z dump and tried to run it on my G2 but it failed , Wondering what else i would need to get this to work

i don't think it will work just like that. you need a lot of sense or such to make it work that's why it never made its way to cyanogenmod .. miui guys from japan know how to do it but i don't think they want to tell how to do it.

You can't run any sence app on anything besides the rosie launcher. You can sometimes install it but it won't work, the app is written deep in the framework.
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Kernel most likely doesn't support it.
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Something is definitely missing
Just to see what I got, I downloaded the attached APK and used adb to install it, and then ran “adb logcat” while trying to launch it. The result is that it force closes right away, and from the output of logcat it looks like it is definitely missing some sort of libraries.
I'd post the thing but it's huge. Essentially, though, it winds up crashing because it expects something to be present that isn't; that's likely this sense thing that others have mentioned.

I suggest reading (and following along with) the thread in the Nexus One forum about getting FM Radio going on that phone. My guess is that whatever those guys come up with should also allow FM Radio on the G2 once it becomes possible to modify the G2 kernel to get the relavent drivers running.

Like its been mentioned it usually requires sense and the kernel to support it. Only the sense roms on the nexus one could use it. Not a developer at all but from what I understand so far, it is what is required.
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@cyanogen:
The amazing guys at MIUI are contributing FM radio support to CM! Support them at http://miui.com
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shared via Twidroyd http://twidroyd.com
Sorry for posting twice in a row but as soon as I wrote that last post this was posted by the man himself. Should be promising.
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it's working on the n1.. i assume you will need root to use it so if u plan not to root then don't expect to see it. for now thanks miui for the help.

Isn't the FM Radio a system app? That means that we won't be able to use it until we have write access to /system. So if you want to be able to even install it properly, you need to wait until we have root. From there we have to disassemble and find all the dependencies on the sense framework and port them back in. Also, I am sure that you'll need to use some of the corresponding libs.

New to Samsung Epic and just have a question or 2

I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.

You can use "one click root",then get a program called "sdx app remover".
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thank you very much

jonny4 said:
I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
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SDX app remover will work, but another option is to root, then download titanium backup from the market. I use the free version and it's great. Using this app, you can make backups of you apps and app data (1 at a time, in a batch, or even set overnight schedules). This comes in handy whether flashing roms, if a program gets corrupted, or even if you download an update to a program that doesn't work and want to restore the prior one. Also, if you go to the backup/restore tab, you can see all apps on the phone. If you press on the app, it brings up options, one of which is uninstall. If rooted, you can uninstall anything (just be careful).
Welcome to the epic.

I had the same thought with my heroc long ago. But the stock rom minus bloat still is garbage compared to even the worst custom rom. With this epic was never a question...custom rom 30 mins after I got it.
You can always Odin back to stock...but you never will
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I guess I am worried about messing something up, I only started putting custome rom's on My touch Diamond after I knew I was looking for a new phone in the last 3 months. Is there just a bsaic Android 2.2 rom for the Epic, so I could start from scratch with my apps?

I would recommend Bonsai, but they seem to be busy screwing themselves over. Let's just say its a great rom, but they are making some pretty dumb moves in the PR category.
BTW, if there was
literal crap on this device from Sprint
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then you should have contacted the health department.

so i am noticing some of these roms will root for me. I am looking at the bonsai thread, is it an all in one package. i am new to android rooting. i know on winmo i had to first unlock then run a ruu from my desktop.

You can use odin too load pre rooted roms. Which will give u cwm. Then u can change roms at your own discretion with out a pc. Look at the ratings and read the posts before u load a rom. Id also suggest bonsai 4.0 seems to the the most stable. And I have tried all of them.

Unless you do not care about pic msging and gps in which case definately check out cm7 aplha 3. Its androi 2.3 gingerbread .

one more question, if i don't like this how do i go back to stock rom, with winmo i just reflash old one.

maghig said:
BTW, if there was literal crap on this device from sprint then you should have contacted the health department.
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Thank you for this. My keyboard thanks you for the mountain dew bath.

I have decided I actually like the Samsung ui but I can;t stand how many apps there are, I have 2 freakin Facebook apps because I can't remove the original and the newer one doesn't update the old one. So best thing to do is root and try and remove the stock apps I guess.

I already said this and no one answered. if something goes wrong, how do I go back to stock sprint rom? with winmo i just re run the rom package on my pc.

Just use ODIN. It's always right at the top of the Dev section.

thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb

I was in your shoes a month or so ago.
When I finally had enough time and bravery to mess around with the phone, I rooted and proceeded to brick my phone.
This bricking taught me a valuable lesson and its that the epic is very hard to permantly screw up. I also came from a winmo device before being hogtied and violated from palm and sprints marketin team but wounds healed and feelings of anger and sadness faded away when the epic decended from sprints hallowed halls. (Gg sprint marketing team on another successful campaign...)
Hope isn't lost and I would advise you to become used to your phone with the OTA updates (it should be at ec05) because unless you know what gains you are receiving from flashing a new rom, then it would be a pointless endevor.
Lurk more in the dev forums and play with your phone. If you have a question then ask and hopefully you will find a rom to fit your needs.
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I was rushed and wanted to further clarify a little on what I posted above.
The epic you have now OP should be on 2.2.1 EC05 Froyo if it's not that way now. This is the current update pushed from sprint and I personally had no problems with it. The amount of bloat you see vs the bloat you can't (CIQ...and others *too lazy to google or search*) is a factor to consider while deciding if rooting and customs roms are for you.
I know you mentioned Touchwiz and like you, I enjoy it. Rooting and flashing a rom can remove this but many of the current roms offer a version with TW either as default or baked in. This shouldn't be of concern because you will not notice much difference between stock TW and that provided in a rom other than how "snappy" it is.
I also recommended lurking in the dev forums, and I meant that. I'll look at the first page of a thread such as the ACS rom thread in dev. After seeing what's offered, go to the last page and work backwards, noting any issues or problems people are having. Do understand that people are more likely to post a problem than give praise so do not let those post steer you away, but just use caution and take notice of what's recommended to fix it.
Although this may seem long winded, I feel that a majority of people similer to myself will either conclude that rooting is hard and not mess with it, or become lost in the ever changing acronyms, root utilities, and overall direction to successfully root their device.
What makes matters even worse is that some roms can be so complicated to install and troubleshoot that the information you need to continue isn't already clear enough to you to correctly ask a question or troublesoot. You will see this reflected in post where phones are reurned to the store after it fail to boot.
So to restate what I think would be your best option (and others who find themselves looking to root and flash custom roms), you should lurk and study the dev forums along with general. Make sure current version of froyo is on your device from the OTA update (EC05 is current and you can check by Settings/About Phone/ and scrolling down towards the bottom. Become knowledgeable about what your phone can do, then if you decide that a new rom will make for a richer experience, then follow guides handed down from the roms themselves to help make sure you successfully root and flash your phone.
It can be a headache but it's worth the pain when you finally finish.
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jonny4 said:
thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
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jonny4,
I,too, was in your shoes. I registered on this forum just to reply to your post.
I've had my Epic 4G for a little over a month and I've already tried several different kernels and ROMs. I've found that a good resource for learning how to flash your Epic is YouTube. There's a guy on there with the username "randyshear." He had an Epic 4G and made a ton of how-to vids about installing ClockworkMod Recovery, making Nandroid backups, and flashing various ROMs. Before my Epic 4G, I had never had an Android phone, so I was VERY new to the whole thing. Fortunately for us, the phone has been out for a while and many options exist. I recommend checking out randyshear's vids. He posts download links to all the ROMs he tries out. I've been using the Genocide 0.3a kernel that undervolts and overclocks the CPU to 1.2 GHz and I've flashed ViperROM Apocalypse 4.0.4 with EXT4. The phone has never been faster!
Make sure you get ClockworkMod on the phone and make a backup. Also, just to be safe, back up your microSD too. Trust me, once you get the hang of it, it's actually really fun to try out different ROMs to see how your phone responds. Good luck!
EDIT: I recently flashed my Epic with SyndicateROM Frozen 1.1.0 (EC05 Froyo) with the Twilight Zone kernel and I was completely blown away! FASTEST ROM/KERNEL COMBO I have seen yet!

here is basically what i hate. i just killed a bunch of apps and 3, Clock, amazon mp3, and qik video, that I have never used or setup are already running again. It is absolutely stupid that a program that has never been used or setup can run itself, reminds of me of spyware or malware, and because Samsung locks out removing of said apps it is annoying. I would be happy with the basic rom if all these extra apps weren't running or installed. I may try what the first person suggested. I know WinMo had a bunch of crap apps installed in the Sprint rom but at least those did not run on their own. I do appreciate everyones help, really and I guess if I plan on rooting I should probably do it within my return policy.

Why the lack of development for the Continuum?

I really think the phone has unexplored potential and its puzzling to see it neglected. Im also wondering if there is a way to improve the standalone GPS performance on this rig.

Where you would think the ticker would increase development, it has in fact slowed it.
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We are at a freeze... Why do work on a soon to be outdated system when 2.2 its coming within the next month
What I suggest? I suggest emailing, calling, faxing, and whatever else to the main man HIMSELF...
ask Samsung if they can incorporate these features...
All of us have to do it though if we want anything done xP
I personally would want the ticker to lock itself when typing, because I constantly hit the weather icon xP
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adrynalyne and imnuts have the phone...however as trailblazer said theres little point in putting significant time into 2.1 with 2.2 (theoretically) due any time
not that its the same as roms/kernels obviously...but i gave up updated the gb theme until 2.2 comes out

trailblazer101 said:
We are at a freeze... Why do work on a soon to be outdated system when 2.2 its coming within the next month
What I suggest? I suggest emailing, calling, faxing, and whatever else to the main man HIMSELF...
ask Samsung if they can incorporate these features...
All of us have to do it though if we want anything done xP
I personally would want the ticker to lock itself when typing, because I constantly hit the weather icon xP
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i do too, i always open the rss feed

I check this place every day looking for new stuff I understand that 2.2 should be coming out soon why not throw us a bone untill then mabey a way to add a animation screen or something to play with till 2.2 comes out
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tazzstrike said:
I check this place every day looking for new stuff I understand that 2.2 should be coming out soon why not throw us a bone untill then mabey a way to add a animation screen or something to play with till 2.2 comes out
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I'm busy with real life stuff, and among other things, and not everything is simple to do. My kernel source is on Github, feel free to download it and add in whatever you want. Submit a pull request and I'll add it into my tree then. https://github.com/imnuts

would it be correct to assume that once 2.2 comes out, more ROM's and whatnot will come out and developers will start working on this phone some more?

ntien said:
would it be correct to assume that once 2.2 comes out, more ROM's and whatnot will come out and developers will start working on this phone some more?
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Yes and no. I doubt it will have the number of ROMs available that the Fascinate or most of the HTC phones have, but there will be more stuff going on. It's mostly pointless putting a ton of effort into Eclair stuff now when 2.1 is all but done, and the update is likely less than a month away.

^^^ this
but i think realistic expectations once froyo goes out is a clean/debloated rom with adryns tweaks, voodoo kernels from imnuts
and reboot options, a few themes, aosp lockscreen, remove clock from status bar mods, etc

Will the official update be an OTA update?

Yes, that's how Verizon rolls...

so...
its obvious now that samsung nor verizon have any interest in updating this phone. will people begin developing roms for it? or has everyone in fact returned or sold their phone. cause if so then why this phone listed on xda?

Verizon has not declared end of life on this phone. We will get the Froyo update and likely get Gingerbread as well.