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Since I didn't apply the ota update, I can't help but wonder what features I'm missing out on by not applying the update. Phone is running ok so no real complaints but is there anything that I should apply next to get any additional benefits? I used unrevoked and that's it. Nothing fancy so far.
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joeynuggetz said:
Since I didn't apply the ota update, I can't help but wonder what features I'm missing out on by not applying the update. Phone is running ok so no real complaints but is there anything that I should apply next to get any additional benefits? I used unrevoked and that's it. Nothing fancy so far.
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You aren't missing much right now aside from some fancy themes. I stay away from those, until they mature.
Hopefully, in the near future, there will be a 30fps fix and a touch lag fix. Then you'll likely need fully unlock to use those.
joeynuggetz said:
Since I didn't apply the ota update, I can't help but wonder what features I'm missing out on by not applying the update. Phone is running ok so no real complaints but is there anything that I should apply next to get any additional benefits? I used unrevoked and that's it. Nothing fancy so far.
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The ones that stand out to me the most is the grounding issue fix and the option to set 720p or 480p for the HDMI out.
Other than those two features I didn't really notice much difference. Some people reported a more responsive screen also.
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first thing i would do is get rid of the unrevoked and do a true full root the toast way.
try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411&highlight=click+root
its basically toasts method in simple click process. there are already a few custom roms with the update applied so you're good there.
read that topic it cant be that hard.
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first thing i would do is get rid of the unrevoked and do a true full root the toast way.
try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411&highlight=click+root
its basically toasts method in simple click process. there are already a few custom roms with the update applied so you're good there.
read that topic it cant be that hard.
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I have seen here and another post that you are advocating .6 users to stay away from the unrevoked rooting method for .1 and .6
I am curious as to why?
The sudo root unrevoked app works well with these versions and does not cause any issues whatsoever
I'd like to know why I should ditch unrevoked too.
I also want to ensure that anything I apply can be reverted back to stock if need be.
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Well for one its closed source. android and XDA is about open source and sharing with everyone. also its not truly full root with NAND unlocked and everything. it just causing confusion.
kinda like carriers do with unlimited data but then its like oh you can't go over 5gigs. oh so now 5gigs is unlimited?
so now unrevoked is full root? no
sure you can run titanium and superuser blah blah but the confusion is the same and the reason why it is confusing is because they won't actually share and open exactly what their doing.
if they worked together there would be one root method as with the other HTC phones and everyone is on the same page. look at almost all custom ROM's there is mention of having to be fully rooted via toast method.
thats the confusion im talking about and thats why a closed way of doing things sucks!
the 3 click method is very easy and sure there are risks in doing it but its sure as hell safer then running some code that is closed that nobody knows.
no need to take short cuts.
I think hes talking about unrevoked 1. Thats what I use. I am going back and forth on rooting my evo fully. There is nothing wrong with the unrevoked apk. All it does it grant su when the phone is powered on (temporary root) It doesn't allow the flash of custom recoverys or in turn roms. It just allows root privilege when the phone is on.
People are saying stay away from unrevoked 2, the full "one click" root or whatever. I've heard many things about this, one of them being it breaks 4g. I always stay away from manual rooters. Did on my hero, as people always seem to have problems. If you are happy with just su permissions, the unrevoked 1 (apk) will work just fine. If you're interested in more permissions, reading/writing to android ect, uninstall the apk, reboot, and start with toast step 1.
For me, I haven't decided if I NEED full root yet. My hero was slow, and cluttered, so I rooted to clear some stuff out. However, with su access on my evo, its fast enough already. The only plus I see is uninstalling system apps, but its not like the evo doesn't already have enough room for everything I would want on it. Oh, or if youre interested in theming in any way. I'm sure I will eventually fully root, as I enjoy messing with things but unrevoked 1 is just fine as well.
Pick up wireless tether and a cachecleaner. Thats where I would start with new su privilege running the apk.
I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
You can use "one click root",then get a program called "sdx app remover".
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I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
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SDX app remover will work, but another option is to root, then download titanium backup from the market. I use the free version and it's great. Using this app, you can make backups of you apps and app data (1 at a time, in a batch, or even set overnight schedules). This comes in handy whether flashing roms, if a program gets corrupted, or even if you download an update to a program that doesn't work and want to restore the prior one. Also, if you go to the backup/restore tab, you can see all apps on the phone. If you press on the app, it brings up options, one of which is uninstall. If rooted, you can uninstall anything (just be careful).
Welcome to the epic.
I had the same thought with my heroc long ago. But the stock rom minus bloat still is garbage compared to even the worst custom rom. With this epic was never a question...custom rom 30 mins after I got it.
You can always Odin back to stock...but you never will
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I guess I am worried about messing something up, I only started putting custome rom's on My touch Diamond after I knew I was looking for a new phone in the last 3 months. Is there just a bsaic Android 2.2 rom for the Epic, so I could start from scratch with my apps?
I would recommend Bonsai, but they seem to be busy screwing themselves over. Let's just say its a great rom, but they are making some pretty dumb moves in the PR category.
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then you should have contacted the health department.
so i am noticing some of these roms will root for me. I am looking at the bonsai thread, is it an all in one package. i am new to android rooting. i know on winmo i had to first unlock then run a ruu from my desktop.
You can use odin too load pre rooted roms. Which will give u cwm. Then u can change roms at your own discretion with out a pc. Look at the ratings and read the posts before u load a rom. Id also suggest bonsai 4.0 seems to the the most stable. And I have tried all of them.
Unless you do not care about pic msging and gps in which case definately check out cm7 aplha 3. Its androi 2.3 gingerbread .
one more question, if i don't like this how do i go back to stock rom, with winmo i just reflash old one.
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BTW, if there was literal crap on this device from sprint then you should have contacted the health department.
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Thank you for this. My keyboard thanks you for the mountain dew bath.
I have decided I actually like the Samsung ui but I can;t stand how many apps there are, I have 2 freakin Facebook apps because I can't remove the original and the newer one doesn't update the old one. So best thing to do is root and try and remove the stock apps I guess.
I already said this and no one answered. if something goes wrong, how do I go back to stock sprint rom? with winmo i just re run the rom package on my pc.
Just use ODIN. It's always right at the top of the Dev section.
thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
I was in your shoes a month or so ago.
When I finally had enough time and bravery to mess around with the phone, I rooted and proceeded to brick my phone.
This bricking taught me a valuable lesson and its that the epic is very hard to permantly screw up. I also came from a winmo device before being hogtied and violated from palm and sprints marketin team but wounds healed and feelings of anger and sadness faded away when the epic decended from sprints hallowed halls. (Gg sprint marketing team on another successful campaign...)
Hope isn't lost and I would advise you to become used to your phone with the OTA updates (it should be at ec05) because unless you know what gains you are receiving from flashing a new rom, then it would be a pointless endevor.
Lurk more in the dev forums and play with your phone. If you have a question then ask and hopefully you will find a rom to fit your needs.
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I was rushed and wanted to further clarify a little on what I posted above.
The epic you have now OP should be on 2.2.1 EC05 Froyo if it's not that way now. This is the current update pushed from sprint and I personally had no problems with it. The amount of bloat you see vs the bloat you can't (CIQ...and others *too lazy to google or search*) is a factor to consider while deciding if rooting and customs roms are for you.
I know you mentioned Touchwiz and like you, I enjoy it. Rooting and flashing a rom can remove this but many of the current roms offer a version with TW either as default or baked in. This shouldn't be of concern because you will not notice much difference between stock TW and that provided in a rom other than how "snappy" it is.
I also recommended lurking in the dev forums, and I meant that. I'll look at the first page of a thread such as the ACS rom thread in dev. After seeing what's offered, go to the last page and work backwards, noting any issues or problems people are having. Do understand that people are more likely to post a problem than give praise so do not let those post steer you away, but just use caution and take notice of what's recommended to fix it.
Although this may seem long winded, I feel that a majority of people similer to myself will either conclude that rooting is hard and not mess with it, or become lost in the ever changing acronyms, root utilities, and overall direction to successfully root their device.
What makes matters even worse is that some roms can be so complicated to install and troubleshoot that the information you need to continue isn't already clear enough to you to correctly ask a question or troublesoot. You will see this reflected in post where phones are reurned to the store after it fail to boot.
So to restate what I think would be your best option (and others who find themselves looking to root and flash custom roms), you should lurk and study the dev forums along with general. Make sure current version of froyo is on your device from the OTA update (EC05 is current and you can check by Settings/About Phone/ and scrolling down towards the bottom. Become knowledgeable about what your phone can do, then if you decide that a new rom will make for a richer experience, then follow guides handed down from the roms themselves to help make sure you successfully root and flash your phone.
It can be a headache but it's worth the pain when you finally finish.
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thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
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jonny4,
I,too, was in your shoes. I registered on this forum just to reply to your post.
I've had my Epic 4G for a little over a month and I've already tried several different kernels and ROMs. I've found that a good resource for learning how to flash your Epic is YouTube. There's a guy on there with the username "randyshear." He had an Epic 4G and made a ton of how-to vids about installing ClockworkMod Recovery, making Nandroid backups, and flashing various ROMs. Before my Epic 4G, I had never had an Android phone, so I was VERY new to the whole thing. Fortunately for us, the phone has been out for a while and many options exist. I recommend checking out randyshear's vids. He posts download links to all the ROMs he tries out. I've been using the Genocide 0.3a kernel that undervolts and overclocks the CPU to 1.2 GHz and I've flashed ViperROM Apocalypse 4.0.4 with EXT4. The phone has never been faster!
Make sure you get ClockworkMod on the phone and make a backup. Also, just to be safe, back up your microSD too. Trust me, once you get the hang of it, it's actually really fun to try out different ROMs to see how your phone responds. Good luck!
EDIT: I recently flashed my Epic with SyndicateROM Frozen 1.1.0 (EC05 Froyo) with the Twilight Zone kernel and I was completely blown away! FASTEST ROM/KERNEL COMBO I have seen yet!
here is basically what i hate. i just killed a bunch of apps and 3, Clock, amazon mp3, and qik video, that I have never used or setup are already running again. It is absolutely stupid that a program that has never been used or setup can run itself, reminds of me of spyware or malware, and because Samsung locks out removing of said apps it is annoying. I would be happy with the basic rom if all these extra apps weren't running or installed. I may try what the first person suggested. I know WinMo had a bunch of crap apps installed in the Sprint rom but at least those did not run on their own. I do appreciate everyones help, really and I guess if I plan on rooting I should probably do it within my return policy.
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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Why not?... yet better question.
lawalty said:
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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To each their own but there are many more reasons to root other than a Gmail.apk. If your waiting on an OTA ICS update you will be waiting awhile longer. But again to each their own.
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lawalty said:
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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Gonna be a loooooooooong wait my friend.
Btw, I can't imagine android without root, (rooted since the g1).
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Nothing wrong with stock...stable, fairly fast. But don't hold your breath for ICS...
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I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
u not the only I haven't rooted my sgs2 yet, waiting on the official ics update.
What is the point of this thread? Who cares if you root or not.
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u not the only I haven't rooted my sgs2 yet, waiting on the official ics update.
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Who said it's even coming to your phone, just because Samsung said it's now being sent OTA does NOT mean you will get it. The fact that you have a carrier branded phone means that Tmobile will get it's hands on it first then do it's wonderful (sarcasm) magic and bloat it with there apps like Tmobile TV and so on. Then IF they choose to make it available they will send it there's NO time frame on that. All I have to do it's point out the Tmobile's version of the Samsung Galaxy S, the Vibrant, which NEVER got Gingerbread like the other Galaxy S phone that did. Samsung announced and released an OTA for the Galaxy S but Tmobile in there infinite wisdom chose NOT to release it to the Vibrant. So just because Samsung announced and is sending a OTA ICS does NOT mean you're going to get it. You will have to WAIT for your carrier IF and when they announce it, PERIOD!
Though it may only he available to stock unrooted users, its often a matter of a few days to get an rooted stock rom up so thats not an issue for me
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Though it may only he available to stock unrooted users, its often a matter of a few days to get an rooted stock rom up so thats not an issue for me
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You should read the thread before posting...someone already said what you said.
"Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA."
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I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
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Within hours there will be a stock Deodexed rooted tar and CWM zip.. I know this because I'm going to be doing it lol. Have my ics working folder ready to rock.
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Wtf... This guy trying to make a documentary of his personal phone desires..as said previously who cares what you decide to do with your phone...we don't need to be informed your un rooting and waiting... If that's what you choose do be it but y in the hell would you think we need to know, or much less care
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personally, i like the ability to get into the rooted side of es file explorer to modify the build prop, change lcd density, insert init.d script edit for better battery life. hell, how about undervolting the kernel with oc apps to get upwards of 24 hours out of a single charge? also, while the tmo roms are good, they cant hold a candle to the 2.3.5 roms from ATT...i dont know what it is but those roms run like a dream on this snapdragon soc.
final thought - I love tmo, dont get me wrong, but if you think that tmo will be the first to get ics ota then maybe you know something i dont. considering that, i hypothesize that ics (or even cm9) will be available for flashy goodness long before its ever beamed to our phones.
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I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
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Very good point.. I forgot about the Carrier IQ.
cbinvb said:
personally, i like the ability to get into the rooted side of es file explorer to modify the build prop, change lcd density, insert init.d script edit for better battery life. hell, how about undervolting the kernel with oc apps to get upwards of 24 hours out of a single charge? also, while the tmo roms are good, they cant hold a candle to the 2.3.5 roms from ATT...i dont know what it is but those roms run like a dream on this snapdragon soc.
final thought - I love tmo, dont get me wrong, but if you think that tmo will be the first to get ics ota then maybe you know something i dont. considering that, i hypothesize that ics (or even cm9) will be available for flashy goodness long before its ever beamed to our phones.
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i also forgot about undervolting.. another good point.
bobby3306 said:
Wtf... This guy trying to make a documentary of his personal phone desires..as said previously who cares what you decide to do with your phone...we don't need to be informed your un rooting and waiting... If that's what you choose do be it but y in the hell would you think we need to know, or much less care
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Ah... what a troll. If u don't like my thread, then git!
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Nope not a troll, just don't see where what you personally do with your
phone matters to anyone else...another pointless waste of space thread started
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ingenious247 said:
I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
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Relax... You sound like he stood you up on a date
I also havent rooted since getting my replacement phone... The phone is great without it and 75% of the roms and themes are the same thing just a dif battery mod or kernel (not many choices on this phone) I just think rooting isnt that big of a deal anymore since phones are becoming more powerful
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bobby3306 said:
Nope not a troll, just don't see where what you personally do with your
phone matters to anyone else...another pointless waste of space thread started
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To each their own. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, and some (like your comments) simply stink.
If you don't have anything to give to benefit, then get the [email protected]#k out of my thread, and stop trolling, or i'll report you.
I mean it.
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Guys I put a case on my phone today. I know some of you guys don't use them but I don't see why you don't.
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Guys I put a case on my phone today. I know some of you guys don't use them but I don't see why you don't.
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what kind of case?
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I just got this phone, after having an SII for a while, the SII I rooted and put about every rom made, lol I had fun, but to be honest, many roms were missing features.
I'd like to Root, to be able to remove a lot of bloat that came with this phone, including "look out"
The main reason I want to root though, is to be able to tether my unlimited data plan.
Other features like titanium back up and some other rooted only apps.
I don't want to put a rom on it, I'm happy with the stock rom, but what about when updates come? like 4.3 or something, I wouldn't be able to update it right?
fastfed said:
I just got this phone, after having an SII for a while, the SII I rooted and put about every rom made, lol I had fun, but to be honest, many roms were missing features.
I'd like to Root, to be able to remove a lot of bloat that came with this phone, including "look out"
The main reason I want to root though, is to be able to tether my unlimited data plan.
Other features like titanium back up and some other rooted only apps.
I don't want to put a rom on it, I'm happy with the stock rom, but what about when updates come? like 4.3 or something, I wouldn't be able to update it right?
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depends on your carrier and what they throw in the updates. safe way is to stick with what you got till the next release is known to be rooted.
whether running a custom rom or just rooted, you should be able to unroot and revert to stock by following the guides on here, and then you can update with OTA. otherwise, it probably wouldnt be too long of a wait for roms based on any new updates to come out.
I couldn't have this phone or any phone for that matter without root anymore. The touchwiz roms made by the devs here are soooo much smoother than the stock touchwiz on the phone. The better battery life and customization are always an upside as well.
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Truly, this is a question that only you can answer. Especially since you have posted you have experience, the determination is really up to you to make.
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i just received this phone the other day. i rooted it last night with cf simple root with odin. it was very easy to root unlike my old htc one x! however, ive noticed this android os to be somewhat buggy. screen doesnt want to rotate sometimes and sms pic message will stall. any suggestions on roms or even kitkat or the version before kitkat? for some odd reason... this phone never upgraded the os the whole entire time my wife had the phone. i tried software update before rooting and it says it was up to date. very odd.
Well....
I suppose a good cleaning may be in order...considering the device was previously used by someone else...
I'd factory data reset the device in recovery then reload and sync everything again...
Once that baseline is established...then you'll know where it's really at run wise...
As for rom and OS suggestions....that choice ultimately comes down to you...
Run a few and get the feel for them...and read some user reports from the associated threads....
Then flash away and make this great device your own...
We have great users here with "a lot " of roms and development still happening...
And regarding the updated software you never got....
Don't take the official update to 4.3 unless you want a gimped bootloader with Knox security garbage....
Keep that sexy clean 4.1...loader and use a modded 4.3 rom instead....
Stock roms are slow and bloated anyway....
I won't name individual roms to try because that is often interpreted as a favorites list....and I have no favorites....
I like them all....because they let me choose the entire spectrum at will....
Read up....try em all....and have fun....
Happy flashing...g
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gregsarg said:
Well....
I suppose a good cleaning may be in order...considering the device was previously used by someone else...
I'd factory data reset the device in recovery then reload and sync everything again...
Once that baseline is established...then you'll know where it's really at run wise...
As for rom and OS suggestions....that choice ultimately comes down to you...
Run a few and get the feel for them...and read some user reports from the associated threads....
Then flash away and make this great device your own...
We have great users here with "a lot " of roms and development still happening...
And regarding the updated software you never got....
Don't take the official update to 4.3 unless you want a gimped bootloader with Knox security garbage....
Keep that sexy clean 4.1...loader and use a modded 4.3 rom instead....
Stock roms are slow and bloated anyway....
I won't name individual roms to try because that is often interpreted as a favorites list....and I have no favorites....
I like them all....because they let me choose the entire spectrum at will....
Read up....try em all....and have fun....
Happy flashing...g
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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thanx for the advice. before rooting... i done a full factory reset. im kinda new with this rooting stuff. i always root and never upload roms and stuff. just use the phone to get rid of bloat apps. i dont know where to start with roms lol
MPH33 said:
thanx for the advice. before rooting... i done a full factory reset. im kinda new with this rooting stuff. i always root and never upload roms and stuff. just use the phone to get rid of bloat apps. i dont know where to start with roms lol
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No worries...
The key is read....read...read...
The forums can get overwhelming with rom threads and mods...so...
Pick one of interest...and read it's instructions more than once....
The repetition will burn the process into your brain and make the process much easier...
The flashing of this device is pretty easy....but the steps have to be followed correctly or you'll get jammed up....
Start with the threads that explain the flash process and how it works ...
Once you've familiarized yourself with that...only then should you flash...
It's habit forming...so be careful ...LOL
The android platform is all about "you" being in control of the device....not that company named after a fruit....LOL
Take your time...as you have plenty of reading to do...
You wouldn't believe how sweet this device can run with a clean rom and the right kernel ...
Try it....you'll like it....g
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I just picked up a brand new one today, still on 4.1, and I agree it was quite frustrating to have auto rotate freeze and play store dl's a mess right outta the box
But it's alright, as soon as it gets its first full charge its gonna be draped in Slimkat weeklies from there on out. Setup Pie and it should be butter.